/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6703015]

>literally, and I cannot stress this enough, LITERALLY, the same game every single time
Why do shmupfags act superior to fans of platformers, fighting games and even the dreaded jarpig in spite of this?
Furthermore, why do coomlectors blow at least 100 on every generic 5th-gen/DC shmup, especially considering the best game in the genre (Touhou) is absolutely free?

[Anonymous No.6703029]

>Why do shmupfags act superior
/vg/ LARPer kids aren't real shmupfags.
>why do coomlectors
I don't know, but most people worth their salt already bought the games back in the late 90s/early 00s when it wasn't stupidly expensive anyway
>the best game in the genre (Touhou)
ha

[Anonymous No.6703035]

>>6703015
The best thing about shmups isn't that they're the most fun and exciting genre, it's that their very existence makes cunts on /vr/ seethe 24/7.

[Anonymous No.6703051]

>>6703035
No, the only things that make me seethe are most of what people here do and the fact that the board's definition of retro leaves out the vast majority of the greatest generation of all time.
>your next line is "seethe zoomer! Your childhood will never be /vr/!"
I was born in 1987.

[Anonymous No.6703057]

>>6703029
>ha
He's right you know

[Anonymous No.6703061]

>>6703015
>Touhou is absolutely free
Since when? I mean sure you can pirate it, but that's the case for pretty much every game.

[Anonymous No.6703068]

>>6703029
>/vg/ LARPer kids aren't real shmupfags.
I bet they have more 1cc's and higher scores than you do.

[Anonymous No.6703074]

>>6703068
Could be, could be.
But here's the difference: I actually played shmups back when arcades were actually alive, didn't cheat with save states on MAME to "practice".
Also, I think only 1 or 2 nerds in there actually played games, majority of /vg/ kids mostly shitposted about collectors from shmups forums and stuff.

[Anonymous No.6703087]

>>6703074
>Could be, could be.
Rest is cope

[Anonymous No.6703091]

>>6703068
>shit nobody cares about>>6703074

[Anonymous No.6703092]

>>6703087
Cope about the fact I actually live through the arcades' heyday?

[Anonymous No.6703093]

>>6703068
>shit nobody cares about

[Anonymous No.6703103]

>>6703061
EoSD and PCB are still for sale?

[Anonymous No.6703106]

>>6703074
>But here's the difference: I actually played shmups back when arcades were actually alive
If you don't have any proof, then you're being just as LARP-y as those /vg/ kids you were complaining about.

>didn't cheat with save states on MAME to "practice".
What's wrong with that, as long as you aren't using savestates in real runs? You'll just take longer to master the game, because you'll waste more time having to get back to the spots you're actually having difficulty with each time.

[Anonymous No.6703165]

>>6703092
And came out a shitplayer who's seething at zoomers

[Anonymous No.6703227]

>>6703103
I don't think they're still being printed, but it's not hard to find sealed ones without too much of a markup. It's just weird to single out Touhou for being "free" when it's not any more free than other old commercially-released games.

[Anonymous No.6703317]

>>6703015
Arcade games in the 90s were extremely derivative of one another with shmups all being the most samey of them all.

[Anonymous No.6703386]

>>6703035
>The best thing about shmups isn't that they're the most fun and exciting genre

Literally nobody thinks that except for schmup-fags, who are schmup-fags for a reason.

[Anonymous No.6703398]

>>6703015
>Why do shmupfags act superior to fans of platformers, fighting games and even the dreaded jarpig in spite of this?
Do they? Never noticed. I do notice however that they like to pretend that playing them makes them cool, and that being good at them means they're "gamer dudes" which is a laughable fucking meme. Grow up and get a job loser, and quit trying to gain respect from other adults by moving your fingers in a precise manner.

>Furthermore, why do coomlectors blow at least 100 on every generic 5th-gen/DC shmup
Because they have autism.

>especially considering the best game in the genre (Touhou) is absolutely free?
That's a funny way of spelling "Desert Strike".

[Anonymous No.6703406]

>>6703317
>Arcade games in the 90s were extremely derivative of one another
Other way around. Arcade games in the 80's were extremely derivative of one another.

[Anonymous No.6703414]

>>6703015
"Every game in [GENRE] is the exact same" is such a disingenuous argument

[Anonymous No.6703420]

>>6703414
Yea, but for a number of genre's it's actually true, namely shoot em ups....followed by [insert game about specific real life sport here].

[Anonymous No.6703443]

I love shumps but I absolutely suck at them.
For me they are the most video-gamey video games can be.
If you say for one second that Ikaruga looks, sounds or plays anything like Gunbird2 or Raiden, or Gradius or R-Type..then I just don't know what to tell you.

[Anonymous No.6703590]

>>6703420
It's as true for literally any genre, that's how genres work

[Anonymous No.6703878]

>>6703015
Why are you so butt blasted you can't git gud

[Anonymous No.6703959]

>>6703414
I get the same feeling with 2D Beat Em Ups. I play through the greats in the genre like Streets of Rage 2, Final Fight, TMNT, etc and I can't tell come to a conclusion as to which one is better because it felt so incredibly similar that none of them registered as superior to the other. The only difference between them seemed to be the visuals. I don't hate the genre at all, it just seems like if you've played one you don't really have to play any others.

[Anonymous No.6704050]

>>6703959
They have different flow of gameplay, different speeds, different enemy AI, different moves, they require different tactics, different inputs, different boss strategies. I don't know how you played them to come to the conclusion that they are the same, did you just brute force mash punch and insert credits when you game overed?

[Anonymous No.6704112]

>>6703414
It's completely arbitrary but it's also not really an argument against anything. Carrying over some of your skills between games and picking up new ones quicker because of similar experiences is satisfying as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6704131]

>>6703590
>that's how genres work

No, it's not.

[Anonymous No.6704141]

>>6703959
Your points sounds like the argument from a SCHMUP player trying to cope desperately, just like my brother tried to cope when I pointed out that all the NFL games are identical to the last except for the players names.

[Anonymous No.6704146]

>>6703959
Your points sound like the arguments of a SCHMUP player trying to cope desperately, just like my brother tried to cope when I pointed out that all the NFL games are identical to the last except for the players names.

[Anonymous No.6704159]

Every game is the same

[Anonymous No.6704162]

>>6704131
Name a genre that doesn't consist of slightly different takes on fundamentally the same formula

[Anonymous No.6704202]

>>6703029
>/vg/ LARPer kids aren't real shmupfags.
as usual, fpbp

[Anonymous No.6704210]

>>6703165
>zoomers
At least you're honest about it, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.6704254]

>>6704162
That's a loaded question, but even so, I can still prove you wrong with the most basic of genre's, racing.

>Super Mario Kart
>Gran Turismo
>Carmageddon
>Waverace
>Star Wars Episode 1: Racer
>Diddy Kong Racing
>F-Zero X
>Flatout

[Anonymous No.6704289]

>>6704254
You're just proving me right if anything. They're games about improving your times and racing against others with the same structure across the whole genre. They all use the same mechanics like steering, throttle, braking, drifting, gear shifting, boosting, the mechanics are even implemented similarly, you either have limited boost bars or drift boosts. The tracks are all designed the same, the concept of the racing line is the same, and more.

[Anonymous No.6704309]

>>6704289
>You're just proving me right if anything.
No, I'm literally not, and you just made me laugh at your blind stupidity even more. Find me a SCHMUP that has as much difference between two titles, ANY two SCHMUP's, as there is between Gran Turismo, and fucking Diddy Kong Racing.

>They're games about improving your times and racing against others with the same structure across the whole genre.
And they feature completely different gameplay and structure.

> They all use the same mechanics like steering, throttle, braking, drifting, gear shifting, boosting, the mechanics are even implemented similarly, you either have limited boost bars or drift boosts. The tracks are all designed the same, the concept of the racing line is the same, and more.
Except they literally don't you troglodyte retard. Wave Race is a fucking water-sports game. Doddy Kong Racing is a flying game. Jesus you're so batshit stupid it hurts typing this, mentally. Mario Kart even has the ability for you to hope. Fucking hell, get it together you mentally damaged retard genre-fanatic.

[Anonymous No.6704314]

>>6704289
>You're just proving me right if anything.
No, I'm literally not, and you just made me laugh at your blind stupidity even more. Find me a SCHMUP that has as much difference between two titles, ANY two SCHMUP's, as there is between Gran Turismo and fucking Diddy Kong Racing.

>They're games about improving your times and racing against others with the same structure across the whole genre.
And they feature completely different gameplay and structure.

> They all use the same mechanics like steering, throttle, braking, drifting, gear shifting, boosting, the mechanics are even implemented similarly, you either have limited boost bars or drift boosts. The tracks are all designed the same, the concept of the racing line is the same, and more.
Except they literally don't you troglodyte retard. Wave Race is a fucking water-sports game. Diddy Kong Racing is a flying game. Jesus you're so batshit stupid it hurts typing this, mentally. Mario Kart even has the ability for you to hop. Fucking hell, get it together you mentally damaged retard genre-fanatic.

[Anonymous No.6704324]

>>6704309
The difference between Senko No Ronde and Xevious is greater than GT and kartshit
>And they feature completely different gameplay and structure.
Enter race complete some laps and whoever is first wins, or do time trials same shit
>Wave Race is a fucking water-sports game.
So? Most applies

[Anonymous No.6704364]

>>6704324
>The difference between Senko No Ronde and Xevious is greater than GT and kartshit
Let's just take a look at this comparison. You had to take a game from 1983 and compare it to a game from 2005 in order to even mildly compete against it, and they still look like the same fucking game, except one has a bunch of gay anime shit thrown in for good measure. Holy fuck.

Meanwhile, Diddy Kong Racing and Gran Turismo came out the same year. Thank you for proving my point that SCHMUP's are insipid casual shit.

>Enter race complete some laps and whoever is first wins, or do time trials same shit
You're using a strawman to simplify the aspects you want to compare. Which is quite sad, honestly. "This RPG features the ability for you to do quests! Welp, all RPG's are the same!"

Fucking idiot, lmao, wow, it's like talking to a literal 4 year old.

[Anonymous No.6704385]

>>6704364
The difference between Border Down and Senko No Ronde greater than the difference between kartshit and GT, same company, same time period. Cope harder
>You're using a strawman to simplify the aspects you want to compare
Thats the point of these vapid comparisons and why they are dumb you dipshit

[Anonymous No.6704392]

>>6704364
Also rpgs literally use the same old tired d&d derived stat class and combat system and the ones that deviate are put into their own subgenres like ARPGs, for shmups run n guns have a simillar niche

[Anonymous No.6704415]

>>6704050
>>6704050
Here's how I tackled every single encounter in every Beat Em Up game I played:
>Walk at any badguy diagonally
>Attack them
>Stop attacking if enemies gather around me
>Attack them
>Win
Bossfight:
>Walk at Boss diagonally
>Attack until they fall over
>Back off because they usually have a wake up attack
>Repeat until dead

I'm really not kidding when I said every game felt pretty much exactly the same aside from visuals. The genre would be much better if it had more complex controls, combos and special moves like Fighting Games.

[Anonymous No.6704457]

>>6704415
So you didn't play 2/3 of your examples, and had 9 as your final score digit in the one you did play.
>The genre would be much better if it had more complex controls, combos and special moves like Fighting Games.
So you could brainlessly mash out manual combos the same way you mash out auto combos? The genre already has all of that since the 90's, the problem is you.

[Anonymous No.6704480]

>>6704415
>just walk diagonally to bosses and avoid wakeups
try that FF or Knights of the Round

[Anonymous No.6704495]

>>6703015
>the best game in the genre (Touhou)

[Anonymous No.6704621]

>>6703959
>I play through the greats in the genre like Streets of Rage 2, Final Fight, TMNT, etc and I can't tell come to a conclusion as to which one is better because it felt so incredibly similar
Oh no, he's retarded.

[Anonymous No.6704637]

>>6704415
Yeah right and it took you only 15 credits to clear the game with those shitty "strats" lmao

[Anonymous No.6704647]

Every retard post here is a bait to bump the thread.

[Anonymous No.6706619]

>>6703443
They literally do though. It doesn't make much of a difference if you go horizontally, vertically or into the screen, the core gameplay is exactly the same: hold down the fire button and avoid the bullets as you go on rails towards the goal.

[Anonymous No.6706627]

>>6703015
>Toe Hoe
>best

[Anonymous No.6706630]

>>6704495
He's not wrong he just forgot to specify it's touhou great fairy wars. Hidden star in four seasons is also cool because it lifts most of its shield and graze mechanics from great fairy wars.

[Anonymous No.6706680]

>>6706619
Holding down the fire button in Ikaruga breaks your chain, the game is all about precise, well timed shots. And instead of avoiding bullets you collect them for points. So even if we're talking about the most basic fundamental elements of the genre you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.6706696]

I'm trying this one right now, it's pretty tough. Lots of bomb usage and I've got mixed feelings on my horizontal movement being so slow. Really chunky visuals and often overwhelming but possible feeling patterns. What do you think of it?

>>6706680
whenever I start a new game in Ikaruga It sounds like the robot voice is saying "MISTER CRABS." You know, the guy from spongebob.

[Anonymous No.6706890]

>>6706680
Okay one exception out of over 9000, my point still stands

[Anonymous No.6706897]

>>6704480
But Final Fantasy is a JRPG and Knights of the Round is a summon

[Anonymous No.6706916]

>>6704162
Action-adventure.
Boom. Easy.

[Anonymous No.6706923]

>>6703015
shmups are from the days of the arcades, so a lot of folk hold them dear.

I've yet to see or hear an adult claim they're superior to any other genre of vidya games.

[Anonymous No.6706931]

>>6706923
Shmupfags love to shit on JRPG fans

[Anonymous No.6706962]

>>6706931
I like both

[Anonymous No.6706963]

>>6706931
well the JRPG folk do catch a lot of flack, but that's a different issue IMO

perhaps people see them condescendingly as mere weebs?

[Anonymous No.6706971]

>>6706916
Which subgenre?

[Anonymous No.6707804]

OP is right. I scooped up a bunch of shmups during the last Steam sale, and while they're fun to blast through, they're all identical. There frankly isn't much you can do with this genre, it's limited to the same basic dodge and shoot gameplay, so the graphics and music are the only things that really change from game to game. It's why they sell for just a couple bucks, they're so low effort and uninspired.

[Anonymous No.6707805]

>>6706971
My point exactly.

[Anonymous No.6707807]

>>6706963
Definitely understandable for anything not named Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.6707941]

>>6703015
>>literally, and I cannot stress this enough, LITERALLY, the same game every single time
weak bait lad.

>Why do shmupfags act superior to fans of platformers, fighting games and even the dreaded jarpig in spite of this?
shmups are the most hardcore genre.
even a mere 1cc is impressive, generally.

>Furthermore, why do coomlectors blow at least 100 on every generic 5th-gen/DC shmup, especially considering the best game in the genre (Touhou) is absolutely free?
dads don't care about playing (or if they do, it's very seldomly and badly), just coomlecting.

[Anonymous No.6707957]

>>6703165
>Zoomers
Who gives a rats ass about the "I believe everything I read on the internet as truth generation"? Fuckin' Jabronis.

[Anonymous No.6707984]

>>6706619
You clearly haven't played one so how would you know?
But, yes, they do share certain factors. That's literally what a genre is.
All fighting games have a large amount of common elements.
All platformers have a significant number of overlapping concepts.
All RPGs share a sizable amount of similarities.

[Anonymous No.6707985]

Holy Shit I just beat my PB by 2%!!! only 600 hours of practice, delaying my hyper and boss milking 2-3 and 2-4 paid off! fuck yes my dudes!!
I'm so happy!! I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY (PLEASE BELIEVE ME) !! all my HARD WORK paid off! the NUMBERS WENT UP! I can't believe 600 hours later I got a new PB, beat my old PB by 2% !!! all that effort is PAYING OFF BIG TIME!!!!!!! WHAT A RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6707991]

>>6707985
>only 600 hours for a new PB
congrats, can't believe you made the numbers go up so soon!

[Anonymous No.6708043]

>>6707941
>shmups are the most hardcore genre
*laughs in rhythm games, NES-hard platformers, and high-level fighting game, FPS and RTS play*

[Anonymous No.6708047]

>>6707804
>This small selection of games I got from Steam represents the entire genre
God, this board is something else.

[Anonymous No.6708053]

>>6707984
>All RPGS share a sizeable amount of similarities.
Even within FF alone the battle systems change pretty much between every game.

[Anonymous No.6708057]

>>6707984
I've played Touhou. Once you've played that you've covered pretty much every bullet hell.

[Anonymous No.6708072]

>>6707984
>All fighting games have a large amount of common elements.
Besides "press button combos to beat your opponent before they beat you", not really, like, at all.

[Anonymous No.6708073]

>>6708053
But that's not to say they don't have similarities. JRPGs aren't defined purely by their battle system. Otherwise you'd have the weird situation where for example FF1 is an RPG but FF8 isn't.

Things belonging to the same genre don't have to be identical

[Anonymous No.6708079]

>>6708043
Also roguelikes, early WRPGs and (not retro but) Soulslikes are much more hardcore than SCHMUPs will ever be.

[Anonymous No.6708091]

>>6708079
>>6708043
if shmups are so easy how come you guys never beat one without credit-spamming?

[Anonymous No.6708097]

>>6708091
Not him and I wouldn't call them easy, but they're not hard in the league of roguelikes.

[Anonymous No.6708104]

>>6707985
> I can't believe 600 hours later I got a new PB, beat my old PB by 2% !!! all that effort is PAYING OFF BIG TIME!!!!!!! WHAT A RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>6707991
>can't believe you made the numbers go up so soon!
This reminds me of making the time go down in my Dragon Quest speedruns.

[Anonymous No.6708106]

>>6708072
Yes. The games have specific details that differ, obviously. I'm not saying they are all the same. I'm saying the exact opposite. But to deny that there isn't a common thread through every "fighting game" that is classified as such is dishonest.

[Anonymous No.6708107]

>>6708073
But on a purely gameplay basis, JRPGs and most genres are much more diverse than most shmups. Just look at all the different subgenres of JRPGs. Besides the traditional kind, you have action RPGs, strategy RPGs, card-based, monster-collecting, blends of several, and that's just to name a few. Some are linear and some have multiple endings. Some have pre-defined characters and some are supposed to be player self-inserts.
Meanwhile, what's the amount of variation in shmups? Some go vertically, others side-to-side and some into the screen, and some have more bullets to dodge than others, and that's basically it.

[Anonymous No.6708129]

>>6708104
>This reminds me of making the time go down in my Dragon Quest speedruns.
7000 hours wasted on DQ or 7000 hours wasted on DDP. Both take the same toll on you and offer you nothing in return. That's why 1cc collectors who play minimally always win.

[Anonymous No.6708282]

>>6706680
>And instead of avoiding bullets you collect them for points
Are you just being a contrarian cunt or have you never played the game? You avoid bullets in addition to collecting them.

[Anonymous No.6708284]

>>6708107
Some of them have a full range rotation, varying targeting schemes, some employ melee attacks. The specific power-up mechanisms vary to a wild degree. Some of them have a level-up system. Come on...

[Anonymous No.6708289]

>>6708282
The point is that being encouraged, as a main part of the gameplay, to swap between the kinds of bullets you can absorb and/or avoid is novel and unlike other shmups

[Anonymous No.6708314]

funny how Cave has yet to match Garegga in skill ceiling, depth, replay value, presentation and complexity. No matter how hard they tried they only made coomerbait chaining games

[Anonymous No.6708329]

>>6708314
now they're making mobile crap so there's no chance

[Anonymous No.6708559]

>>6708107
thing is, what do you even consider a shmup? when confronted with shmups of different styles some people would just not consider them one. the easiest example are euroshmups, some more hardcore group would just exclude them into the definition. SWIV is definitely a shmup, but what about SWIV 3D? then you have something like Seek and Destroy (the 1993 PC game), and even so far as Terminal Velocity, are they even still shmups? sometimes it feels like the definition are actually deliberately confined to a certain playstyle.

[Anonymous No.6708562]

>>6703015
>especially considering the best game in the genre (Touhou) is absolutely free?
touhou players are the bronies of shmups
stay far away

[Anonymous No.6708594]

>>6708562
Trust me, I hate the ""cute" anime girls instead of spaecships" aesthetic as much as the next person. But from a gameplay perspective it's second to none.

[Anonymous No.6708595]

Shoot 'em ups from the same developer have a habit of feeling the same, but there is a huge difference between, say, Armed Police Batrider, Twin Cobra, Psyvariar, Radiant Silvergun, Mars Matrix, Gunbird, R-Type II, and so on. The 'bullet hell' subgenre is what is actually samey, while shoot 'em ups in general have plenty of variety.

[Anonymous No.6708626]

>>6708594
>But from a gameplay perspective it's second to none.

[Anonymous No.6708630]

>>6708562
Laura is cute

[Anonymous No.6708748]

>>6708289
That is indeed a novel mechanic. But you'd probably have better luck convincing people by explaining that instead of being wrong.

[Anonymous No.6708928]

>>6708107
Except shmup is also a broad label, you have autoscrolling shmups, fixed shmups, twin sticks/multi directional shmups, roguelite shmups, run n guns, cabal shooters, etc. There are shmup RPG hybrids that youd probably just say are action RPGs.

[Anonymous No.6708931]

>>6703015
Why do you fucking care, faggot? Give a shit about something that matters

[Anonymous No.6708932]

>>6708043
>NES-hard platformers
LOL, get lost kid

[Anonymous No.6708935]

>>6708748
Fact is that you want to be absorbing bullets much as possible, thats the focus of the game

[Anonymous No.6708939]

>>6707804
Name them

[Anonymous No.6709028]

>>6708594
>Trust me, I hate the ""cute" anime girls instead of spaecships" aesthetic as much as the next person.
lying goon

[Anonymous No.6709418]

>>6708935
Fact is you were wrong and no amount of cope is going to change that. I'm not even the dude you were arguing with dingus. Just some random guy who saw someone bullshitting and called it. The guy you were cherry picking for and tipping your fedora to is probably just sitting back and laughing while you make an ass if yourself without him even having to lift a finger.

[Anonymous No.6709438]

>>6709418
What is this autism, if someone said a brawler's about brawling would you then sperg out saying ACKSHUALLY YOU PICK UP GUNS AND SHOOT THEM TOO SO UR WRONG

[Anonymous No.6709440]

>>6708594
> "cute" anime girls instead of spaecships

Why not both?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_IZhptpQU

[Anonymous No.6709484]

>>6703015
The good shmups are awesome, although yes moreso than any other genre it's generic shit

[Anonymous No.6709613]

>>6709438
Yeah, that's literally what you're doing. Nearly every shmup is largely about dodging bullets. Yet you pick one game and then, wrongfully, retardedly, claim that you collect bullets instead of avoiding them. Then you spend the rest of the day copeposting because you can't just accept that you said something stupid and wrong. So keep the cope and strawmen coming. The power of autism compels you.

[Anonymous No.6709623]

>>6709613
>Ikaruga's not about eating up bullets for score cuz u have to dodge sometimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6709647]

>>6703051
So you just like being wrong?

[Anonymous No.6709651]

>>6708594
Why are anime girls and spaceships the only two possible aesthetics for shmups? That's a big part of why everyone thinks they're samey.

[Anonymous No.6709657]

>>6709651
>

[Anonymous No.6709685]

>>6708626
>he posted the same picture

[Anonymous No.6709693]

>>6709651
Because you're unaware of the numerous games that don't fit into that archetype like Shippu Mahou Daisakusen, Under Defeat, Lost Worlds, Strania, Boogie Wings, Parodius, Gun Hohki, Cybattler, Guardian Force, Saint Dragon, Guwange, Out Zone, In The Hunt, Sol Divide & others

[Anonymous No.6709702]

>>6708932
Yeah, Ghosts n' Goblins and Castlevania and Ninja Gaiden are so easy, what a fag!
...Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.6710031]

>>6703103
Most arcade shmups aren't up for sale anymore either so what's your point?

Your logic is flawed, my guess is you brain is dumb

[Anonymous No.6710318]

>>6709623
>i was wrong and now i'm strawmanning to deflect
Keep coping spergboi. The power of autism compels you.

[Anonymous No.6710378]

>>6709613
>Yet you pick one game and then, wrongfully, retardedly, claim that you collect bullets instead of avoiding them.
That's literally what you do in that game though. If you're a god at it you dont really haver to dodge much at all because you're shfting light-dark all the time. What is your malfunction?
Its an example of a game not being exactly the same. You are the wrong one here and we are all laughing at you. I await your next comedic reply

[Anonymous No.6710560]

>>6710031
I can download the full versions of both from the official Touhou website for exactly $0.00. It's free to play.
Your knowledge is lacking, my guess is your dick is nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.6710587]

>>6710318
There was no strawman there, you ARE that retarded

[Anonymous No.6710793]

>>6708562
>touhou players are the bronies of shmups
stay far away
Still better than trolls who play nothing

[Anonymous No.6710819]

>>6706931
IMO they're polar opposites. JRPGs are the slowest games I've ever played, hands down (outside of cashgrabs like MMOs and F2P games of course), and shmups are extremely fast-paced games. quick to get into, difficult to master. Whereas you've mastered a JRPG's mechanics mere minutes into playing it, you just have to grind for 100 more hours to beat it.

[Anonymous No.6710839]

>>6710793
>trolls who play nothing
Most touhou "fans" don't even play the games, let alone finish them.

[Anonymous No.6710920]

>>6708562
>>6710839
Touhou is based, now get glucked, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6710938]

>>6709647
Not sure what he meant by this

[Anonymous No.6711118]

>>6707985
kek

[Anonymous No.6711189]

Is there a "community" that has more of an internal struggle than the shmup "community"?

[Anonymous No.6711207]

>>6708129
>That's why 1cc collectors who play minimally always win.
This. If you want to play a game for score that actually takes skill and not just copy monkey memorization, play IIDX. But even then you need to keep in mind you won't be able to compete with the top players who are Japanese and Korean.

[Anonymous No.6711514]

>>6711189
The only ones 'struggling' don't even play shoot 'em ups, so I dunno, are they part of the community?

[Anonymous No.6711567]

>>6711207
Both take skill ya retard, rhythm games are boring as fuck though it's literally just following simple instructions : the game. Least shmups have a nice balance of execution, rng, memo, depth, etc.

[Anonymous No.6711978]

>>6711567
This shmups are more complete video games, I only bother with rhythm games that I have to use my body nowadays and only casually.

[Anonymous No.6712573]

>tfw the actual best game in the genre is not only obscure as FUCK but also not retro

[Anonymous No.6712763]

>>6711978
Retro rhythm games like space channel 5 and parappa were cool but modern shit like osu, beat saber and audiosurf is so soulless.

[Anonymous No.6712970]

i can't believe a japanese shmup player is trans! that's so cool

[Anonymous No.6713020]

>>6709693
Parodius, and I'm assuming the others, literally have both of those

[Anonymous No.6713093]

>>6713020
Parodius has everything, the point's that its aesthetic isn't "anime girls" or "space ships" you stupid cunt

[Anonymous No.6713186]

>>6710378
>cope
kek
>we
kek

>>6710587
Just because you don't know what a strawman is doesn't mean there wasn't one. Cope harder. The power of autism compels you

[Anonymous No.6713192]

>>6713186
are you even able to form a thought without meme phrases?

[Anonymous No.6713321]

>>6713093
And Parodius also has giantesses
I'd say it's highly based

[Anonymous No.6713325]

>>6713321
>pedo is also a giantess fetishist
well this just got interesting

[Anonymous No.6713345]

>>6713325
>he thinks I'm the pedofork
>he thinks I'm him
sopa de japones uma delicia.jpg
Get glucked, faggot

[Anonymous No.6713347]

>>6713345
>I’m not the pedo
Nice try

[Anonymous No.6713361]

>>6709702
no one ever mentions the first adventure island. hard as fuck

[Anonymous No.6713387]

>>6713347
I only downloaded that pic to gross you out, literally one of the first google image results for "loli vore"

[Anonymous No.6713392]

>>6713387
>I only pretended to be a nonce for your benefit
Do you hear yourself lol?

[Anonymous No.6713714]

>>6713192
Are you even able to post without coping?
>wew good thing we stopped talking about how you don't avoid bullets in ikaruga
kek

[Anonymous No.6714182]

>>6713392
>grossing you out is to your benefit
Do you hear yourself lol?

[Anonymous No.6714334]

>>6713347
>>6713345
>>I’m not the pedo

[Anonymous No.6714356]

Havent seen anyone on this board with a shmup collection to match mine.

[Anonymous No.6714361]

>>6714356
Just got a Jap 360 as well to get those last few pesky region locked games. I got Dodanpachi Daioujou and Deathsmiles 2 LE in the mail.

[Anonymous No.6714373]

>>6714356
How many of those have you cleared/gotten decent scores in

[Anonymous No.6714401]

>>6714373
Im afraid only the easy ones. Caldarius Blaze, Burunyan-man (shmup with 30minute long sex scenes after a fight), Akai Katana. Otomedus Excellent I have 1cc'd.

Currently working my way through Mushihimesama in some probably failed attempt to 1cc it. On i side note, i found Einhander to be dull. I dont know if its only the first couple of stages, but its dark as fuck, muddy colors and there is almost no music until you get to the boss. I dont know what everyone was smoking when they played that game.

[Anonymous No.6714419]

>>6714401
That's a lot of effort for a shit post. Losing your mind?

[Anonymous No.6714427]

>>6714419
i just love discussing shmups. Now you got anything to contribute or are you the shit poster?

[Anonymous No.6714452]

>>6714401
Its by le based square and has an interesting weapon gimmick, games not that good. PS1 has better shmups like Raystorm/Raycrisis, Xevious 3D/G+ and Thunder Force V

[Anonymous No.6714589]

if you're 90 and you're gf is 80, you're a sick pedo bastard

[Anonymous No.6714593]

>>6714589
>seething spammer pedo posts pedo apologist rhetoric
Go figure, I’m sure nobody was expecting that lmao

[Anonymous No.6715150]

>>6714356
A lot of those look unopened. You should play them

[Anonymous No.6715243]

>>6703015
Settle down Beavis.

[Anonymous No.6715254]

>>6714356
>no Blazing Star or Truxton
‘tis a faggot’s collection.

[Anonymous No.6715334]

Play JRPGs you children.

[Anonymous No.6715467]

>>6715334
disgusting child rapist

[Anonymous No.6715471]

>>6714356
I have more but I'm confident with my penis size and I don't own a nice marble table to present them all on. *hint hint nudge nudge*

[Anonymous No.6715540]

all RPGs are literally the same game. so are FPS games. and platformers. they're all literally the same game. FAG

[Anonymous No.6715557]

Play NiGHTS into Dreams for score, one of the only truly unique retro games.

[Anonymous No.6716691]

>>6714427
but they're not retro
come back after you have collected pcbs

[Anonymous No.6716714]

what's the consensus on the dodonpachi series? which one is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.6716716]

>>6716714
The consensus is you’re a shmutt lol

[Anonymous No.6716762]

>>6716714
i've only played DFK and it's my favorite.

[Anonymous No.6716801]

Here you go

[Anonymous No.6716992]

>>6716714
DOJ > DFK = DDP >> SDOJ

[Anonymous No.6717015]

>>6716992
guess you didn't see the official /vr/ chart >>6716801

[Anonymous No.6717305]

>>6717015
>official /vr/ chart

[Anonymous No.6717487]

>>6716801
>Dangun and Dawnpatch that low

Whoever made that's a dumpass.