/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6694391]

Should you use CRT filters?

[Anonymous No.6694394]

I'm glad that stupid baby jellyfish gets #btfo

[Anonymous No.6694403]

Idk but i use these filters

[Anonymous No.6694404]

This might be a stupid question, but does anyone just hood their PC directly up to a CRT? It's doable, as far as I can tell.

[Anonymous No.6694425]

>>6694403
Lookin’ good

[Anonymous No.6694429]

>>6694404
Depends on the CRT.
A PVM or CRT? Unless you have an old video card laying around you're fucked without a transcoder.
A VGA CRT? Yeah sure, but it has downsides such as stuttering and different phosphor structure.

[Anonymous No.6694432]

>>6694429
>PVM or CRT
I meant PVM or CRT TV.

[Anonymous No.6694443]

>>6694432
Yeah, I mean a TV.

[Anonymous No.6694451]

>>6694443
Very difficult and you'll need a CRT that can take RGB input. Even then you'll need a VGA to RGB-HV transcoder, and on top of that you'll have to make sure your computer's VGA output can do 15kHz. VGA is a 30kHz specification, so there's often no reason to bother supporting 15kHz in anything made in the last 20 years.

[Anonymous No.6694454]

>>6694391
depends if you like em or not.

[Anonymous No.6694469]

>>6694451
I just use a Pi, it can do composite or RGB. It just works for me.

[Anonymous No.6694470]

>>6694469
Pi RGB uses CPU rendering, and has timing issues which show up as lines shifting around on screen every now and then.
You're better off using a Wii probably. >>6694469

[Anonymous No.6694471]

>>6694391
Use whatever you like as long as it doesn't curve the image. That shit is fucking dumb.

[Anonymous No.6694483]

>>6694471
Agreed. Don't fuck with the aspect ratio.

Personally I tend to use one of the anti dither filters, then a sharp CRT filter to add a subtle shadow mask look for nostalgia's sake on retro consoles.

There's no right answer to this, as it's mainly taste, but there sure are a lot of wrong answers
>>6694403

[Anonymous No.6694503]

I use ntsc composite 240 because that's the closest it used to look when I played them on any of my old TVs, just needs the dancing white lines from the badly connected RF cables from the VHS player I had the console plugged into

[Anonymous No.6694729]

They make me happy but results can be mixed. I think they look great for NES and Genesis games but somehow they look really off on SNES games, like the lines aren't all evenly spaced or something, and vertical scrolling doesn't look great.

[Anonymous No.6694771]

>>6694451
>Even then you'll need a VGA to RGB-HV transcoder
VGA is RGBHV, numbnuts. You don't need a transcoder. Depending on the monitor, you might need a sync combiner, which isn't that hard to make or buy.

[Anonymous No.6695652]

>>6694771
>VGA is RGBHV, numbnuts.
You're right, I meant RGB-S, which you can't just combine for most monitors.
It certainly is hard to buy, but if you want to prove me wrong go right ahead, because I've been looking forever.

[Anonymous No.6695837]

>>6695652
https://www.retrorgb.com/building-a-passive-sync-combiner.html
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/ckX0JXhf
https://github.com/jnftech/vga2ntsc-kicad
https://www.beharbros.com/product-page/kenzei
You clearly haven't been looking very hard.

[Anonymous No.6695859]

>>6695837
You linked one page that tells you how to build a sync combiner, two PCBs without any components, and an assembled device that OUTPUTS a c-sync VGA.
No anon, I'm not going to learn circuitry and buy a proper soldering kit just to build a single device I need.
Learn to read and stop being autistic.

[Anonymous No.6695880]

Use whatever you feel like.
As long as you have fun, it's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.6695889]

>>6695859
Are you blind? The Kenzei has a SCART connector as well. You didn't specify how you wanted your RGBS, but VGA (which can be easily broken out into BNC) and SCART should cover most uses.
>No anon, I'm not going to learn circuitry and buy a proper soldering kit just to build a single device I need.
I didn't ask about your learning disabilities. I said they're easy to make or buy, which is a fact.
>Learn to read and stop being autistic.
Follow your own advice.

[Anonymous No.6696392]

Just got a 14 inch pvmeme, I also have a 32 inch jvc with component. Now that I have ordered some scart cables for snes/genesis is it a better option to

A. Order a bnc male to scart female adapter and use them with the pvm

B. Order a rgb scart female to component transcoder and use the bnc adapters I already have, this means I could use the same transcoder on the 32 inch component jvc, but I wouldn't have true rgb on those consoles.

[Anonymous No.6696465]

>>6694391
No, you should use an actual CRT.

[Anonymous No.6696994]

>>6694394
>t. Ridley

[Anonymous No.6697152]

>>6696465
Why? CRT shaders give you the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.6697178]

>>6697152
There is nothing that's better about a non-CRT display.

[Anonymous No.6697181]

>>6697178
There's plenty actually. Image clarity of an LCD is unparalleled.

[Anonymous No.6697215]

>>6696392
>rgb

[Anonymous No.6697869]

>>6694729
>and vertical scrolling doesn't look great.
I've noticed this too, and sometimes it even feels off with horizontal movement. Filters might mimic the look of a CRT but they can't change the differences in how LCDs and CRTs actually work which is why I think it still has problems.

I think pixel scaling filters like xBRZ are better. I don't really understand actually wanting a bunch of black lines over the image, it just makes it feel distorted. But even xBRZ doesn't scale things properly all the time and it can end up looking worse so I generally just play unfiltered.

[Anonymous No.6698672]

>>6697178
I have two words for you: corner convergence.

[Anonymous No.6700478]

>>6694391
By sheer nature of asking the question "SHOULD", you've revealed that you should be brought before a guillotine and have your body relieved of its empty coconut head.