Anal-ogue Pocket

[Anonymous No.6692718]

Say something nice about this device.

[Anonymous No.6692719]

>>6692718
That man has the sunken eyes and sloping brow of the common criminal

[Anonymous No.6692720]

>uironically paying $200 for a clone console

ha ha you fucking idiots

[Anonymous No.6692753]

Are you still salty about not being able to get one, OP?

[Anonymous No.6692770]

It will allow me to play my handheld game collection without taking multiple handhelds with me. Really looking forward.

[Anonymous No.6692782]

>>6692718
My wife's son would probably love it

[Anonymous No.6692807]

>>6692718
I want one, and actually ended up checking the page at 8am PST, exactly the time of release without knowing that was when it was due to become available.
Feels AWESOME :)

[Anonymous No.6692809]

>>6692718
My wife's boyfriend's son would probably love it.

[Anonymous No.6692815]

>>6692809
>>6692782
preddy cringe dudes

[Anonymous No.6692838]

>>6692718
>people will pay 200 dollars for an emulation device because FPGA snakeoil
lol

[Anonymous No.6692879]

Anybody who paid for this shit is retarded. You can play gameboy games on a $30 android phone or any other extremely cheap mobile device. Fucking retarded boomers will buy anything.

[Anonymous No.6692890]

>>6692879
>android emulation
Significantly more disgusting than this.

[Anonymous No.6692892]

>>6692838
That’s not really a lot of money. I spent more on my 3DS and my Vita. I don’t really get why people act like $199 is a lot of money for this

[Anonymous No.6692894]

>>6692892
It's a lot of money for a gameboy clone.

[Anonymous No.6692895]

>>6692879
Where do you put the gameboy cartridges in an android phone? Oh wait, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.6692901]

>>6692892
this, would pay $400 for one of these badniggers

[Anonymous No.6692906]

>>6692894
The same cores that work on mister work on this though. So it isn’t just gameboy. Also I paid $150 for a gameboy in the early 90s I don’t really get the price issue with this even if it was just GB games. A fully modded gameboy costs nearly as much as the analogue pocket. Isn’t as nice and does a lot less

[Anonymous No.6692954]

>>6692906
>Isn’t as nice
Lol playing on a real Game Boy Advance or AGS-101 is more than nice, it's the real deal
And you don't get the DMG form factor

[Anonymous No.6692974]

>>6692894
I've seen Gameboy Colors with the tiny Freckle Shack LCD mods for the same price. Sean of Esoteric mods was fucking selling them for $250 but he's a retard.

[Anonymous No.6692975]

>>6692895
If you want to play cartridges, then just play your fucking gameboy, retard.

[Anonymous No.6692983]

>>6692718
>Say something nice about this device.
The screen is going to be friggin awesome for Gameboy and Gameboy color games (unsure about advance games though going by some of the promo pictures they've shown).

Hopefully optimistic that other devs will do things with the device, obviously porting over cores from MiSTer, but the thing is a portable fpga, there are all kinds of other non-video game possibilities.. maybe?

[Anonymous No.6692995]

>>6692975
I have gbc, gamegear, and neo geo pocket games.
>Just take three consoles with you retard
You're dumb.

[Anonymous No.6693000]

>>6692954
I really like the DMG form factor though? And the screen on this is stupid good. I’ve paid a lot more for similar devices. $200 isn’t anything for the quality of this thing.

[Anonymous No.6693008]

>>6692892
>>6692901
Same.
I honestly thought an Analogue handheld playing this many devices natively would be around $400. I was shocked at the price reveal.

[Anonymous No.6693012]

is nice to see people working in this kind of thing.
but at the moment you can still easily buy a authentic gbc/gba to play gb/gbc carts, i will be cool once they become really rare or those dudes try to tackle on consoles with shit emulation like n64 or Saturn.
because lets be honest, any potato runs gb/gbc emu at 99% accuracy.

[Anonymous No.6693015]

>>6693012
*it will

[Anonymous No.6693019]

>>6692954
I agree that the AGB form factor is much more comfortable than the previous Game Boys, but I'm sure people will make grips and shit for the Pocket. Probably release some 3D-print files or something.

>>6692995
Also, this. With the Pocket I can take a few of my real carts in a case and play them all on the same device. Can't wait to bust out my old saves and scores. I have some NGPC games but no NGPC anymore, and my old GG needs new caps again.

[Anonymous No.6693146]

The large majority of people who buy that kind of thing will use it once or twice and then forget about it, or never use it and just display it in a case. They have a compulsive urge to buy more products. There's no other explanation because there are many cheaper alternatives to playing the games this thing supports, and unlike it you know what you're getting when you purchase.

I got a backlit GBA in basically new quality, recently for much cheaper, I didn't have to wait a fucking year for it, the build quality is good and I'm not afraid of it getting a bit dirty due to being worth $200 + tax and shipping + add-ons. Which means I can actually use it to play my games and not just to show off.
Then I have my WonderSwan Color, something that might actually benefit from clone hardware since lighting mods are expensive and don't work well, the button layout is unique, and the stock screen sucks. But a WonderSwan clone wouldn't make as much money from nostalgic idiot Westerners who want to brag to their friends about this new overpriced gameboy they just bought, so I guess I'll shell out $150-200 for a SwanCrystal eventually.

[Anonymous No.6693234]

>>6693146
>I don't understand what the product is
gottit

[Anonymous No.6693235]

>>6693234
Cope

[Anonymous No.6693259]

>>6693146
>there are many cheaper alternatives to playing the games this thing supports
What cheaper alternatives exist for FPGA hardware emulation for the gameboy, neo geo pocket color, atari lynx, game gear and (once hacked) the SNES? I wasn't aware of any.

[Anonymous No.6693262]

>>6692718
It's great to wipe my ass with. I bet it has great FPGA (Faggotry Pedophilia Gayest Activation).

[Anonymous No.6693290]

>>6693259
>what alternative exists for this arbitrary set of requirements that have zero bearing on my ability to play a video game?
Hey, you tried. It's convenient to dismiss software emulators as somehow being inaccurate (provably wrong for these simple platforms) while FPGA *emulation* is held up as some magical thing that's totally perfectly accurate. And when it comes to FPGAs suddenly real hardware isn't relevant anymore. The contrived excuses people make to buy an emulator for more money than real hardware show the level of delusion of compulsive consumers.

[Anonymous No.6693412]

>>6692718
Well a decent AGS-101 costs $100 or more now, so this doesn't seem unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.6693420]

>>6692892
Vita and 3ds play new games, this is some chink pirate device no different than the millions of others. It's still going to be made in china crap but because anal log made it you soiboys will be all over it

[Anonymous No.6693427]

>>6693412
>if I'm going to emulate I'm going to over pay for it dang nabbit

[Anonymous No.6693434]

>>6693420
...are you ok?

[Anonymous No.6693442]

>>6693434
Yeah, are you?

[Anonymous No.6693457]

>>6693442
Glad to hear. Don't go shooting up anywhere yeah?

[Anonymous No.6693467]

>>6693427
>emulation and FPGA are the same thing
How's somebody as technically inept as you even figure out how to get to this web site?

[Anonymous No.6693479]

>>6693467
Is FPGA not a type of emulation?

[Anonymous No.6693520]

>>6693290
>this set of requirements is arbitrary by my own low standards and accurate emulation for multiple systems in one machine is something I'll pretend isn't attractive to a set of people
Hey, you tried. It's convenient to dismiss FPGA emulation as somehow less desirable (provably wrong for these simple platforms) while software *emulation* is held up as some magical thing that is simply good enough and no one should desire anything better. And when it comes to chink handhelds or desktop emulators, suddenly real hardware isn't relevant anymore. The contrived excuses people make to scorn those that buy hardware to mitigate the amount of devices they regularly use shows the level of delusion of compulsive shitposters.

[Anonymous No.6693590]

>>6693457
seething

[Anonymous No.6693596]

>>6693520
Software emulators don't cost money and a good repro controller for most platforms is $20-40 at worst, cope harder.

[Anonymous No.6693598]

>>6693467
FPGA emulation is emulation, fucking moron, god I hate retards like you who think they know what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.6693608]

>>6693596
Hardware to run software emulators on does cost money and for the people buying these, money isn't as big a factor for them as it is for you, cope.

[Anonymous No.6693612]

>>6693608
Wow you're so smart, I guess after buying your $200 game boy you won't need any other computer, phone, tablet or other portable device that can run software emulators at no extra cost then.

[Anonymous No.6693618]

>>6692718
the buttons and dpad look like they feel shitty

[Anonymous No.6693623]

>>6693618
Yeah but Analogue can do no wrong, praise the TOTALLY NOT EMULATION, FPGA emubox-that's-more-expensive-than-original-hardware gods! Consume! Consume! More products!

[Anonymous No.6693624]

>>6693612
I didn't buy one, doesn't mean I don't see the usage of one, 5 systems in one is still utilitarian without sacrificing accuracy and increasing input lag like you would with a phone emulator. But you're clearly the smart one here for preferring a worse-performing experience.

[Anonymous No.6693634]

>>6693624
oh right you're retarded and still refuse to accept that FPGAs are emulators. moron.

[Anonymous No.6693637]

>>6693634
I said several posts above it's hardware emulation, but it's not your fault you're an illiterate dumbfuck, it's your mother's.

[Anonymous No.6693645]

>>6693479
No there is a tiny factory inside every fpga that makes each type of chip. It's totally not making the logic gates behave like or "emulate" the actual chips because that's emulation and if the internet has taught me anything it's that emulation = software program and not something that behaves like something else.

[Anonymous No.6693665]

>>6692809
You don’t get the joke. Saying your wife’s son already implies it’s another man’s child without being as intensely on the nose.

[Anonymous No.6693676]

>>6692995
So you're not willing to carry three separate devices, but you're willing to carry a bunch of different games for different consoles?
If you're on the go, and you want to play games for multiple handhelds, you should just use an android device instead of carrying around a bunch of carts.
If you're at home, then use your carts.
And you're a faggot if you're playing a handheld in public anyway.

[Anonymous No.6693689]

>>6693676
>And you're a faggot if you're playing a handheld in public anyway.
especially one that looks like a fucking gameboy lmao

[Anonymous No.6693693]

>>6693645
>No there is a tiny factory inside every fpga that makes each type of chip
wow that's kinda problematic enslaving factory workers in gameboys :/

[Anonymous No.6693750]

>To look at it another way, software emulation is like streaming a recording of a classic song while FPGA is playing the original vinyl on a modern turntable with digital outputs. For most consumers looking for a quick hit of nostalgia, software emulation is just fine. Many emulators deliver a mostly accurate and quality experience. But for enthusiasts seeking purity, software emulators just can't compare to what the Super NT's FPGA chip delivers.

Consoomers, this is your mindset.

[Anonymous No.6693780]

>>6693750
Why did you take the time to write something I didn’t bother reading in full?

[Anonymous No.6693792]

>>6692770
you could just install Retroarch on Switch or your phone

[Anonymous No.6693813]

>>6693676
i dont get what a grown ass man is doing with a handheld

i mean, when you are a kid, your parents drag u everywhere cuz they can't just leave u home. So of course they get u a gameboy to entertain you while you are at grocery store, or mall.

But now that you are the adult, you "should" be doing you own shopping. So you wouldn't really have time to be occupied with a handheld.

[Anonymous No.6693949]

>>6693813
I'll sometimes play a handheld on my commutes to/from work.

[Anonymous No.6693952]

Only r_dditors will fall for this scam, imagine buying a $200 device (plus $80 controller, $100 dock and $20 screen protector, fucking lmao) to play retro games when a $20 PSP/2DS handles GBC/SNES/MD games just as well.
>muh cartridges
Because you're totally gonna carry dozens of them on your """man""" purse. And if you're gonna use it at home then why not use the actual console?
>muh portability
If you actually cared about that you'd use original hardware with a flashcart, or a cheap chink handheld if what you want is home console games on the go.
>muh accuracy, FPGA is not emulation you just don't get it
Ah yes, shit that doesn't matter if you actually want to play some games instead of bragging about your newest toy on a taiwanese basket weaving forum.
>you just can't afford it
The ultimate excuse, or "cope" as you people call it.

[Anonymous No.6693953]

>>6693949
>taking public transportation
>not driving yourself
do you live at home with mama still too?

[Anonymous No.6693954]

>>6692718
all these retards bought one without seeing how well the emulation works or the battery life

[Anonymous No.6693957]

>>6692719
kek.

where have i heard that b4?

[Anonymous No.6693958]

I'm looking forward to it.

[Anonymous No.6693967]

>>6693813
True, I'm only ever out and about for a specific task, mainly shopping. I travel for work so having a handheld of some sort is definitely useful since watching cable TV all night at the hotel is torture. Although I prefer to use a razer junglecat or kishi on my phone to play games, less to pack around.

[Anonymous No.6693978]

>>6693953
>he doesn't live in a city with good public transport infrastructure
Seethe. While you spend your time driving the rest of us can play some games, read, and do productive things like learn languages. I spent a lot of my commutes drilling Japanese vocabulary and I'm 超流暢 now :)
>>6693958
Consume product!
>>6693952
Great post. I'm amazed people fell for the "FPGA isn't emulation" meme since it's complete BS.
Also funny people claim to value accuracy but are perfectly fine with the idea of playing Lynx or Neogeo Pocket games with controls that don't map to the buttons properly (after buying the overpriced adapters of course)

I'm sure this will be fine for playing GB/C games, but anyone who actually cares about the authentic experience can just grab a backlit GBA for less and get more enjoyment.

By the way the cartridge slot design will block Boktai solar sensors and possibly other cartridge add-ons.

[Anonymous No.6694014]

>>6693978
This is sad. Comes in to this thread just to post garbage. Get a life, you beta.

[Anonymous No.6694015]

>>6693978
why would I use public transportation when I can use my car like an adult?

[Anonymous No.6694027]

>>6694014
Sad that your reaction to seeing a self-actualized, superior man is jealousy rather than drive to improve yourself. Just reflect on what's important in your life and stop consuming for its own sake.
>>6694015
>why would I spend my time doing things that I enjoy or that further my life when I can move big metal box?
cringe

[Anonymous No.6694029]

>>6694027
Assumptions the post. Fuck you doing with your life, man?

[Anonymous No.6694032]

>>6694027
Only a bicyclecuck or a licenselet would find driving unenjoyable

[Anonymous No.6694034]

>>6694027
nigger, using public transportation is on literally nobody's list of "things they enjoy or that further their life." You're an adult child stuck in arrested development.

[Anonymous No.6694037]

>>6694029
Nothing too special, I'm just a guy who enjoys life making good money as an engineer working in the United States, waking up at 6 every day to work out in my home gym and enjoying some video games after a profitable work day. When I don't work from home I like to read Japanese (my third language) literature masterpieces on the train. And you?

[Anonymous No.6694041]

>>6694037
I post on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6694042]

>>6694037
>making good money
>has to ride the bus to work
>but i have a home gym and sometimes i get to work from home!
holy shit lmao post your "home gym" please

[Anonymous No.6694059]

>>6694042
My home gym is a pull-up bar and some space to do bodyweight progression exercises while listening to interesting and educative podcasts :)
And I haven't stepped into the office since February, but I do miss my commute since I have to force myself to go walk and read when I work from home. Doing it routinely while commuting is better.

[Anonymous No.6694071]

>>6694059
lmao that's not a home gym you fucking spacker

[Anonymous No.6694098]

>>6693952
this

reminder these are shill threads

[Anonymous No.6694110]

>>6693953
Why drive an hour and pay $60 a day for parking in one of the top five metropolitan areas in the US when I can take a train for 25 minutes and pay $140 a month? On the train I can:
>power nap
>use Anki
>read
>play chess
>play muh vidya

Cope, faglord.

[Anonymous No.6694157]

>>6694110
Do cityslickers really?

[Anonymous No.6694169]

>>6693952

[Anonymous No.6694175]

>>6694110
have fun riding the bus, i'll be over here enjoying my autonomy and bucolic life outside of the city.

[Anonymous No.6694192]

>>6694175
Reading isn't your strongest skill, is it? I literally wrote "train."

Also, don't be so presumptuous. Suburban trains, which is what I take, are far different that metro trains. Metro trains are what people usually see in movies and TV. Probably the only exposure you've ever had of PT.

[Anonymous No.6694196]

What is it with real and good clone hardware that makes gamers seeth? Is it just poorfags who are stuck with emulation? Why get so upset over more options?

[Anonymous No.6694201]

>>6694192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79QxturUolo

[Anonymous No.6694207]

>>6694196
Fox and the grapes.

[Anonymous No.6694232]

>>6694196
Poorfags and others who missed out.

[Anonymous No.6694235]

>>6694207
is the the one where he tries to buy grapes but the store is out so he has to eat rotten eggs instead?

[Anonymous No.6694236]

>>6693978
>living in a city like a colossal soi guzzling faggot
>implying the liberal shtiholes that are modern cities have any infrastructure what so ever
Holy shit kill yourself.
>>6694037
>'m just a guy who enjoys life making good money as an engineer working in the United States
>making good money and not using it buy even a cheap car or any personal property
lol what a fag lmao
>>6694059
>"home gym" is literally any shit that can be done in a one room apartment
Real Charles Atlas we got here.

[Anonymous No.6694239]

>>6694236
who do you think would win in a fight, charles atlas or steve reeves?

[Anonymous No.6694240]

>>6694110
>Why drive an hour and pay $60 a day for parking
lol nigger what fucking city job do you have that doesn't accommodate for parking?

[Anonymous No.6694248]

>>6694240
he's a custodial "engineer"

[Anonymous No.6694290]

>>6694196
More than likely. Why else would they care what other people purchase?

[Anonymous No.6694334]

>>6694196
I'm not sure why poorfags hate clone hardware, but I do know my wife's son loves it.

[Anonymous No.6694378]

>>6694334
I should have mentioned basedposters in my comment along with poorfags.

[Anonymous No.6694393]

>>6694378
>basedposters
Basedposters?

[Anonymous No.6694396]

>>6694393
based basedposter inquiry poster

[Anonymous No.6694450]

>>6693676
>>6693813
Look at these seething manchildren who don’t remember that Game Boy was made for and originally marketed to busy adults who had to commute to work every day.

[Anonymous No.6694461]

>>6692719
Based physiognomy poster

[Anonymous No.6694495]

>>6694396
basado

[Anonymous No.6694502]

>>6694196
>real hardware
1. the elitist attitude of those who constantly brag about it
2. the high prices for poorfags
3. the mentality that software emulators are not good enough (with a decent controller, computer and emulator they are often indistinguishable from real hardware, and you can even emulate an NTSC CRT display which makes the graphics closer to the original intention than real hardware + upscaler on a shitty HDTV)

>clone hardware
1. the prices, which are higher than original hardware despite not offering much compared to either software emulators with a good setup or original hardware depending on your environment preferences
2. the snobbish, apple-like branding which rubs off on everyone who buys into it (see the many shills and people already coming out with an unjustified elitist attitude for getting a preorder slot for something releasing next year they don't even know is any good - very apple/cult-like behavior)
3. the sheer ignorance of most of its consumers (like people who think FPGA emulators aren't emulators)

[Anonymous No.6694567]

>>6692770
Just buy a 3DS or Vita you nonce

[Anonymous No.6694572]

>>6693953
t. burger

[Anonymous No.6694586]

>>6692718
overpriced basedtoy

[Anonymous No.6694606]

>>6694502
>real hardware
>3. software emulation

So for many people, software emulation is good enough. The reason I stepped away from it was because I was seeking to eliminate all lag possible for high twitch games. What I ended up discovering was a lot of software emulation had more than just added lag: sound effects being off, as well as other anomalies that just bothered me. I think for most people it is a good starting point and it may be good enough for most.

There is also an alternative to your real hardware issues and that is using the original console with a flash cart on a CRT/using an upscaling device like the OSSC. Its definitely cheaper than the clone hardware, you'll still be spending way less money than buying all the games, you'll still be able to use the same roms you're using for emulators, and if you go down the CRT route then you can easily pick one of these up for free. Its definitely not something people without money should worry over though and if emulation is good enough then use it. In many cases like the N64 it produces better results. If investing in old hardware is too much of an investment but you want something better than software emulation then there's also the MiSter. Higher prices than a retropie setup, but still cheaper than real hardware and flash carts and it's gonna give you about the same results as real hardware.

[Anonymous No.6694619]

>>6694450
Isn't that the G&W

[Anonymous No.6694623]

>>6692718
It's an overpriced Faggot Pedophilia Gay Activator (FPGA) emulator device that I don't really need when I got a PS Vita, which can handle emulation much better.

[Anonymous No.6694627]

>>6694606
>MiSTer
Gee MiSTer, why would I need that when I got a PC I can emulate with that does the same thing?

[Anonymous No.6694636]

I don't know why people hate this thing. It's almost exactly what I've been looking for although I'd prefer a landscape layout

>no analog stick in the way
>high enough resolution to scale resolutions properly
>nice vibrant screen
>decent build quality
>can do dot matrix shades
>can play every handheld gen up to gba and some console stuff

I have a hacked 3ds, a ds lite, a modded gba and an rg350. All of them have issues with either dead placement, build quality, poor screens, poor scaling and lacking backwards compatibility. This is the first device I've seen that covers everything and people shit on it. No clue why

[Anonymous No.6694654]

>>6694567
I second the Vita if you can't afford or are unable to get the Pocket. I am currently using mine for Mega Man Maverick Hunter X but I have also played actual retro titles using Retro Arch and I haven't had any issues.

[Anonymous No.6694660]

>>6694636
People shit on it because...

1) It's an overprice piece of hardware trying to emulate older handheld systems.
2) There are better options out there such as the PSP and the PS Vita that can emulate any retro handheld game system.
3) No one cares about clone consoles except FPGA fags.

[Anonymous No.6694673]

>>6694502
I wouldn't say prices are too high for poorfags for original hardware unless you go for something new in box (I need to stop doing that but I think I already own all the retro hardware I've wanted say for a Net Yaroze).

[Anonymous No.6694679]

>>6694660
The psp and vita don't do what I want though, while this does

[Anonymous No.6694681]

>>6693676
>android
Top kek my good man

[Anonymous No.6694764]

>>6694627
Because your PC does it worse and doesn't meet the requirements for those with higher standards.

[Anonymous No.6694776]

>>6694679
Yeah, what you want is a display piece you can brag about. If you wanted to play games on legit hardware you'd get a cheaper GBA like a normal person. Now you want to reply and say "b-but muh lynx and gamegear and neogeo pocket color". First of all you're full of shit and either lying or fooling yourself into thinking you actually play games on those. Secondly not only are you spending extra for any of those platforms you claim to be interested in (you could get the trio for less than this thing + adapters), but the button layout is of as Gameboy and those aren't Gameboys. So do you care about accuracy or not? Because if you do, you clearly shouldn't be playing on hardware that has a completely different button layout than your target platform, and if you don't, you have countless other, better options.

In conclusion, you and anyone defending this thing are dishonest consumerists who just want the shiny but have to make shitty excuses to justify their manufactured "need" for it. I sincerely hope you figure that out before you pour thousands of dollars into useless shit - who am I kidding, you probably already have thousands of dollars worth of games and consoles you never touch.

[Anonymous No.6694836]

>dedicating this much time and mental space to seethe at FPGA enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.6694850]

>>6694764
My PC handles emulation just fine.

[Anonymous No.6694857]

>>6694850
Luckily your standards are low enough for it not to matter.

[Anonymous No.6694869]

>>6694857
What do FPGAs do that PCs can't do?

[Anonymous No.6694874]

>>6694857
Not really. There's nothing a MiSTer can do that my PC can't already do.

[Anonymous No.6694875]

>>6694869
Accurate hardware emulation of the target device with none of the input lag.

[Anonymous No.6694887]

>>6694869
Nothing, FPGAfaggots just cover their ears and scream LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU if you try to correct their misconceptions though.
They have this strange belief that their emulators-in-a-box have no input lag (despite using HDMI output into high-latency TVs), or that PCs can't output to a CRT (despite RetroArch having a dedicated CRT-out mode). Add runahead to the list and they no longer have a leg to stand on.

[Anonymous No.6694902]

>>6694887
Which genesis and neo geo emulators have run ahead?

[Anonymous No.6694912]

>>6694902
Er, all of the ones that have compact save state formats? Like GPGX and FBN?
With CRT out and other lag mitigation features I don't know if runahead is even needed at all to get near-native input lag anyway

[Anonymous No.6694915]

>>6694912
Interesting, does this apply to Retroarch on Android? I'm googling this and learning as I go.

[Anonymous No.6694920]

>>6694915
Probably, never tried it myself

[Anonymous No.6694945]

As someone who owns a Mister, I am genuinely shocked by the autism going on in this thread. An FPGA implementation is emulation, and for a lot of the cores not cycle accurate emulation. Some software emulators are actually more accurate then their core equivalents on Mister. FPGA is not a magic bullet, and developer incompetence or lack of complete hardware knowledge still exists and makes making a 100 percent accurate core incredibly difficult. Only reason I have one of these things is for simultaneous CRT and HDMI output.

[Anonymous No.6694959]

>>6694875
Assuming you could eliminate lag with runahead, what's the difference between hardware emulation and software emulation? Why is one so much better?

[Anonymous No.6694962]

>>6694945
NOOOOO SHUT UP SHUT UP ANALOGUE SAID THEIR CLOSED SOURCE PROPRIETARY EMULATORS ARE TOTALLY THE MOST ACCURATE IT CAN'T BE FALSE, AAAAAAAAAAAAA BASED KVIN HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee......*gets sucked into his own asshole*

[Anonymous No.6694967]

>>6693957
I think Hitler said that.

[Anonymous No.6694973]

>>6694962
>Our FPGA consoles are perfect recreations of the original hardware
>Oh by the way be sure to update your firmware to fix all the game breaking bugs we shipped with

[Anonymous No.6694980]

>>6694962
Hold the fuck on, same poster who had the Mister, Analog's cores are closed source? I knew they didn't use Mister's cores, but you can't see the actual code for their cores? You're telling me these retards are withholding information that could be used to make all FPGA implementations more accurate? Holy shit double fuck Analog then, the only people who bought their shit were retards or collecterfags anyway.

[Anonymous No.6694983]

>>6694959
Nothing. I'm learning about runahead now and excited to try it later, I was ignorant.

[Anonymous No.6695015]

Why people are so butthurt about others spending their money? It's not like this device has any impact in the real hardware market or emulator's development.

As I said in the other thread, I play on real hardware on a CRT. I use flashcarts because I don't care about overpriced cardboard and software that can be duplicated perfectly. But I only started collecting handhelds with the PSP and NDS because 3rd worlder. I don't care about emulating anything below them because I don't want to buy hardware with fucked up screens + flashcarts. It's not cheaper to buy all the original hardware the pocket can run.

>just use psp/android/whatever
I already used all this stuff and I'm not satisfied with the screen. The pocket is not cheap, but it looks like it's going to be the better one for my screen autism.

[Anonymous No.6695020]

>>6692995
Just take one you adhd fuck. You're not playing all of them at the same time. If you are then just mod a vita.

[Anonymous No.6695095]

>>6693813
Handhelds are probably best for before bed gaming or multi-screen gaming (like playing while watching the news or something that doesn't require your full attention). I could also see carrying them to the park or on a plane. For commutes and shit, yeah, you probably already need to have your phone with you in the first place, so for whatever your opinion on phone gaming, that's the easier option.

[Anonymous No.6695193]

>>6695095
>watching the news
only to see shit like "Waynel Sexton" right?

[Anonymous No.6695201]

>>6695015
>Let people buy and enjoy what they buy and enjoy
Unfortunately many on /vr/ are too retarded for this. I have no interest in the analogue pocket, I emulate all those devices on the rg350m, which people on here tard out over also.
The build quality of the pocket looks great. Hope you enjoy it, anon.

[Anonymous No.6695253]

>>6693262
you use it to activate your inner faggot paedophilia?

[Anonymous No.6695258]

>>6693676
everyone has flashcarts these days boomer its not 2005 anymore

[Anonymous No.6695265]

>>6695258
i've never owned a flash card for any system

[Anonymous No.6696218]

>>6695253
No, since I never properly use the device other than using it to wipe my ass with. But for those with a boner for FPGA, it would certainly activate their inner faggot pedophilia.

[Anonymous No.6696504]

>>6693693
they're chinese so its okay

[Anonymous No.6697341]

>>6694776
Not him but fuck you man the NGPC is seriously fucking great. I should play it more than I have recently. In fact fuck it I'll play it tomorrow when it's nice and sunny.

[Anonymous No.6697348]

>>6697341
No one who actually cares about it would buy a gameboy clone and an adapter just to play with a dpad.

[Anonymous No.6697387]

>>6693813
Holy shit, how insecure (or ugly) are you?

[Anonymous No.6697414]

>>6694619
Tetris was packed in with the gameboy instead of super mario land so nintendo could market it towards everyone.

[Anonymous No.6697423]

Overprices trash for hipsters

[Anonymous No.6697424]

>>6693952
>400 shekels
>to play tetris


WTF

[Anonymous No.6697430]

>>6694196
emulation is typically open source

[Anonymous No.6697440]

>>6693676
>>6693813
The only time I play my handhelds outside the house is when I'm on a long train trip.
Otherwise most of my time using them will be spent at home, usually some play time before bed

[Anonymous No.6697458]

>>6697414
Yeah that's why it's called the game BOY.
and why tetris didn't launch until 6 months after the game BOY.
stupid fucking retarded american.

[Anonymous No.6698117]

My Wife's Boyfriend loves Anal-ogue!

[Anonymous No.6698285]

>>6697424
like you wouldn't

[Anonymous No.6698340]

>>6692719
>judging people by their facial chemistry

Are you a cop or are you being pigheadedly ignorant for free?

[Anonymous No.6698373]

>>6698340
back to resetera tranny

[Anonymous No.6699812]

>>6697348
Yes I completely agree with you in that regard anon, what makes me love it so much is the clicky stick - I can't fathom playing these games with a D-pad, even Sonic which is slippery as all fuck but is still a treat to play.

[Anonymous No.6699819]

thanks to this thread i had a dream i bought one of these things and lost it and was devastated.

i dont even care about it irl.

looks cool and all but my old SP is better IMO

[Anonymous No.6700074]

>>6698373
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.6700086]

>>6700074
pol belongs on 4chan
(You) do not

[Anonymous No.6702620]

>>6695258
I dont know anyone that has “flash carts”.

[Anonymous No.6703043]

>>6702620
Flash cartridges, dummy. You seriously didn't think the correct term was "flash cards," did you? The flash card is the microSD; the "cart" differentiates itself from the card to being the eponymous device plugged into the actual system.

[Anonymous No.6703108]

>>6703043
he didn't even write card, i did, and it was just a typo, i know how they work

[Anonymous No.6703509]

>>6702620
>>6703108
imagine being so pedantic that you completely ignore the point being made in the argument to focus on "card" vs "cart"
we all know what he fucking meant

[Anonymous No.6703529]

>>6703509
the only person you should be talking to is >>6703043

[Anonymous No.6703553]

I've wanted a handheld emulation device for awhile but like 95% of the market is all chinkshit and this is one of the first things that looks like it might be decent

I have a 3DS but the screen is terrible and the dpad is in an uncomfortable position so makes it kind of shitty for older games

[Anonymous No.6703787]

>>6703553
haven't been disappointed with my old psp-3000

[Anonymous No.6703801]

Can it play GBA games?

[Anonymous No.6704869]

>>6703801
Yes, you can use it to play non-retro GBA cartridges.

[Anonymous No.6704969]

>>6704869
Ah okay I’ll just play the retro gba cartridges

[Anonymous No.6705739]

>>6692718
Just noticed the Minimoog in the background. He's okay in my book.

[Anonymous No.6705875]

In semi-related news:
>Analogue has just announced that they’ll be doing a second pre-order for the upcoming NT Mini Noir. It will happen tomorrow August 11th at 8AM PST. The price is still $500 + shipping and it will be available here: https://www.analogue.co/editions/nt-mini-noir
https://www.retrorgb.com/analogue-nt-mini-noir-2nd-preorder-tomorrow-11th.html

>$500 + shipping
pffhaha

[Anonymous No.6705884]

>>6705875
OMG must get the new version!!! I already have 3 NTs but what's another $500, they say the cartridge slot is perfected, wowee!

[Anonymous No.6705886]

>features gold plated I/Os and transparent controller ports
LMAO

[Anonymous No.6705904]

>>6705875
IE: Waste of money.

>B-b-but what about FPGA? Don't you care about accuracy?
Emulators do a fine job on my PC.

[Anonymous No.6706000]

>>6692720
But its hardware emulation.
You know it is better than software emulation.

[Anonymous No.6706030]

>>6706000
>Hardware emulation
Not him, but why would I want "hardware emulation", when I could just buy the actual hardware instead? There's no point in buying an overprice clone console that is emulating a retro console that's cheaper than dirt to own right now. There's also plenty of options to for HDMI output for these retro consoles such as RBG scart to HDMI or hyperkin's HDMI cords.

[Anonymous No.6706206]

>>6706000
Why is it better?

[Anonymous No.6706252]

>>6706206
b-because anal-ogue said so and the closed source made in china fpga salespeople are always right!!!

[Anonymous No.6706424]

>>6705875
Reminder you can essentially get this for "free" if you don't mind having $1k held up for a few months. I bought two last run; one to keep and the 2nd to sell on ebay for $1k+ easy.

[Anonymous No.6706479]

>>6699819
>old SP
That's a modern gaming system...

[Anonymous No.6706798]

>>6706206
Think about it. You wouldn't expect an OS to do the work of a CPU, GPU, MoBo, PSU, etc, would you? An OS is software. The rest are hardware. You need to have good hardware to run the software at optimal efficiency. The FPGA does the work of replicating hardware so that the software can run at optimal efficiency. Software emulation tries to do the work of both, but as you can imagine it cannot run both at optimal efficiency at the same time.

[Anonymous No.6706809]

>>6706798
lol you're a fucking retard
i seriously hope you're just trolling and no one actually believes that
but /vr/ is clearly full of actual retards
so sad

[Anonymous No.6706813]

>>6706809
Instead of using ad hominem attacks, please explain why this anon is wrong. Makes sense to me.

[Anonymous No.6707007]

>>6706798
Never thought of it this way.

[Anonymous No.6707010]

>>6706798
So is there a visible, playable difference between FPGAs and emulators?

[Anonymous No.6707138]

>>6705875
>In semi-related news:
>>Analogue has just announced that they’ll be doing a second pre-order for the upcoming NT Mini Noir. It will happen tomorrow August 11th at 8AM PST. The price is still $500 + shipping and it will be available here: https://www.analogue.co/editions/nt-mini-noir
>https://www.retrorgb.com/analogue-nt-mini-noir-2nd-preorder-tomorrow-11th.html
>>$500 + shipping


>NOT JUST REPLACING THE MEME CELLPHONE MATERIAL FOR HARD PLASTIC LIKE THE SUPER NT!

Cant they be even more tone deaf?

[Anonymous No.6707220]

>>6707138
It's a luxury product dude, they know their audience will fall head first into their scam.

[Anonymous No.6707236]

>>6706813
Alright
Have you ever used a software emulator?
Do you get frame drops on PROVEN perfectly(for all intents and purposes) accurate Famicom, Super Famicom, Game Boy/Color, and Game Boy Advance games?
No?
Then how much work is offloaded on your CPU for hardware emulation
DOESN'T
FUCKING
MATTER
because any SHITTY old 10 year old PC or cheap-ass phone can emulate those things several times simultaneously without breaking a sweat
What retarded logic goes into your line of thinking? Tell me. I can't imagine being this tech-illiterate and think my fantasies are reality.

[Anonymous No.6708068]

>>6707010
Kind of.

[Anonymous No.6708248]

>>6707236
If I'm reading your post correctly, your argument is that software emulation is *good enough* for emulating old games because there are no frame drops. Thus, the CPU from any ol' computer can do the job effectively because it is emulating even older hardware.
But the problem is that the emulators are *software* that run multiple things at once, all the while sharing resources with many other programs. Even if you try to make something like a Raspberry Pi a dedicated emulator, it will run into issues because the board runs Raspbian by default, an OS with its own demands, even if minimal. Not to mention the other software emulators people tend to pack in their emulator boards.

From my understanding, FPGA allows the programmer to create dedicated emulation programs to run at the hardware level, not at a software level. So it goes beyond the simple emulating software and to the actual hardware--here, FPGA--to create dedicated machines that do nothing *but* run the system they were programmed to run.
Even though the prices are high, FPGA board programmers aren't trying to make "good enough" emulators. The problem they try to address is that technology created 10, 20, 30 years ago is dying with fewer people around with the resources to repair and restore. It is easier to tackle this by addressing new hardware to do the same thing.

Is it better than software emulators? It seems so. Is it best for everyone? No. But it is an option that hopes to satisfy those who wish to game with the benefits of modern televisions.

[Anonymous No.6708250]

>>6708248
Damn...
You're actually legit retarded.

[Anonymous No.6708270]

>>6708248
>But the problem is that the emulators are *software* that run multiple things at once, all the while sharing resources with many other programs.
explain how this is a problem.
>Even if you try to make something like a Raspberry Pi a dedicated emulator, it will run into issues because the board runs Raspbian by default, an OS with its own demands, even if minimal.
you say it will run into issues, but don't explain what those issues are
>From my understanding, FPGA allows the programmer to create dedicated emulation programs to run at the hardware level, not at a software level.
the way this is written doesn't actually make sense, but lets assume you mean fpga is programmed logic blocks vs. software running on fixed-function processors
>So it goes beyond the simple emulating software and to the actual hardware
this describes HLE vs. LLE, these are higher level concepts that can apply to either FPGA or software
>FPGA--to create dedicated machines that do nothing *but* run the system they were programmed to run.
this describes a single-tasking system, also possible with software