Shmup thread

[Anonymous No.6685028]

>1 guy
>made by ONE guy
>in 95
>still puts all modern indie shmups aside from crimzon clover to shame

How the fuck did he do it lads?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HO5aMd1Osk

[Anonymous No.6685029]

Keep seething cuz JRPG chads got their own board

[Anonymous No.6685045]

Not with that single infinitely scrolling background. Why didn't he finish the game

[Anonymous No.6685047]

>>6685028
>How the fuck did he do it lads?
it's minimalist. the gameplay is the most important part, he rehashes the backdrops, and most of the ships are static images.

[Anonymous No.6685049]

>>6685045
That's my only gripe really.

[Anonymous No.6685059]

>>6685028
Satazius is better than this game though, also crimson clover is overrated tranmaku shit.

[Anonymous No.6685081]

>>6685028
dedication
coding skills (68k asm)
being Japanese

[Anonymous No.6685089]

Space Invaders

[Anonymous No.6685119]

>>6685028
Check out ZeroRanger

[Anonymous No.6685176]

>>6685028
You make it sound as if other shmups had AAA budget and staff

[Anonymous No.6685257]

I wish I wasn’t born so late so I could appreciate shmups more. I did enjoy Radiant Silvergun, Soldier Blade, and Sapphire though, those are excellent games

[Anonymous No.6685387]

who /dadshit master race/ here

[Anonymous No.6685420]

>>6685028
crimzon clover is miles better, but not retro

[Anonymous No.6685425]

>>6685387
for me it's tap and shoots, anything more is too complicated and makes me angry

[Anonymous No.6685534]

>>6685420
>crimzon diarrhea
>better than anything
u hav me laffin m80, I'll catch you on the next AGDQ showcase

[Anonymous No.6685539]

>>6685045
Minimalism. I like this style of shmup, it reminds me of Warning Forever and rRootage.

[Anonymous No.6685548]

>>6685539
Go play Thomas Was Alone for "minimalism" you basedboy

[Your father No.6685557]

>>6685425
I don't understand your newfangled geek garbage, son. Are you ready to go toss the old pig skin around until your mother calls us in for dinner?

[Anonymous No.6685604]

>>6685028
the power of SOUL

[Anonymous No.6685616]

>>6685029
back to the cuckshed

[Anonymous No.6685646]

who put all those bullets in daddy's shmups, Sarah?!!!! WHO?!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6685654]

>>6685646
His name's Ikeda and when I grow up I'm gonna marry him!

[Anonymous No.6685665]

which shmup should i get WR in?

[Anonymous No.6685685]

>>6685654
boomer humor

[Anonymous No.6685687]

>>6685654
He wouldn't want her when she grows up.

[Anonymous No.6685718]

>>6685665
Dangun Feveron

[Anonymous No.6685723]

>>6685665
>which shmup should i get WR in?
Guwange should be easy, the chaining is very relaxed

[Anonymous No.6685728]

>>6685723
just learn catspider milk and you can beat cee at least

[Anonymous No.6685729]

>>6685728
Hey let's just mention that guy again and ruin another thread, great! And here I thought we were progressing forward

[Anonymous No.6685734]

Was this made by the same guy that made Judgement Silversword?

[Anonymous No.6685775]

>>6685729

[Anonymous No.6686027]

>>6685534
good thing ccwi isn't on tranny done quick
can't deny keksui would be the best representation for the gayshmups community desu

[Anonymous No.6686036]

>>6685665
>which shmup should i get WR in?
how boring of a person are you to consider that?

[None !mKr1ra2.l. No.6686040]

>>6685729
what happened on last thread?

[Anonymous No.6686047]

an update:
spent all day analyzing shmup frame data and boss glitches, no benefits so far,
posted powerup flow charts no one is ever going to read, will stream again for viewers who idle in idle in my stream and have no idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.6686048]

>>6685028
>1 guy
>made by ONE guy
Like most Indie SHMUPs? What, do you think STG developers have infinite funds? Or that maybe they're hugely popular and make a lot of money? I dunno about anyone else, but this OP is insulting.

[Anonymous No.6686051]

why is the ship shooting all the time even when no enemies are onscreen? He should be conserving ammo for the tougher levels.

[Anonymous No.6686058]

>>6685029
>chad shmup players get to stay on /vr/
>every jrpg thread on /vr/ gets told to go back to the containment board, for eternity
Who's seething?

[Anonymous No.6686059]

>>6686047
>spent all day analyzing shmup frame data and boss glitches, no benefits so far

[Anonymous No.6686062]

>>6685028
http://www.sk8tokyo.com/shmup/

>CAVE-style indie shmups:
Blue Wish Resurrection Plus
Edens Aegis

>Indie Shmups:
Cho Ren Sha 68k
Warning Forever

>Commercial quality shmup
Patriot Dark

All of these are free full versions.
Have fun shmuppers.

[Anonymous No.6686064]

>>6685028
OP, I think you meant Tyrian, and it puts ALL shmups to shame.

[Anonymous No.6686069]

>>6686047
wot game? bug princess?

[Anonymous No.6686070]

Just started playing shmups and I noticed if you stay at the top of the screen and kill enemies FAST you can't die, very good tip if you're new

[Anonymous No.6686071]

>>6686062
Under " Free Soft / Demos "

[Anonymous No.6686074]

>>6686069
sdoj and ibara

[Anonymous No.6686078]

>>6686064
I'm still hoping one day it will be polished, just need to fix these slippery ship movements, that's all I want.

[Anonymous No.6686116]

>>6686071
>http://www.sk8tokyo.com/shmup/
Awesome thanks, Anon!

[Anonymous No.6686151]

>>6685028
by synchronizing music and gameplay.

[Anonymous No.6686161]

is there anything interesting left to do in shmups? seems like everyone's already done it, and it's just a matter of copying their replay

[Anonymous No.6686234]

>>6686064
Eurotrash...and I'm saying that as an Europeon myself

[Anonymous No.6686346]

>>6686047
t. mark

[Anonymous No.6686357]

>>6686051
based turboforcer.

[Anonymous No.6686476]

>>6686161
>is there anything interesting left to do in shmups?
make a shmup wiki and discord

[Anonymous No.6686520]

>>6686161
Doom is a 3d schmup, you could try that

[Anonymous No.6686521]

>>6686161
make numbers go up

[Anonymous No.6686526]

>>6686161
And, by the same logic, all puzzle games are pointless because the puzzles have been solved. See the problem with your train of thought? Since it's a game rather than a job, it's not about getting the high score but rather about learning to get the high score.

[Anonymous No.6686553]

>>6686526
>it's not about getting the high score but rather about learning to get the high score.
is learning to make the numbers go up by copying a route the best thing you can think of doing ?

> all puzzle games are pointless because the puzzles have been solved.
it's true, the only games that offer some chance for exciting innovation are fighting games, that's why they have Hype Compilations, kind of like sport or mma compilations.

[Anonymous No.6686557]

>>6686553
Every solution to a problem has two parts: coming up with a plan and executing it. The former gives the pleasurable "ah-ha!" moment and the latter is satisfying. The more elements you skip, the less pleasure you get--for no gain and at the cost of spoiling a game in the process.

[Anonymous No.6686560]

>>6686047
>spent all day playing shmups, no benefits so far.
fixed lmao

[Anonymous No.6686569]

>>6686560
Not everyone is as productive as you.

[Anonymous No.6686571]

>>6685028
Why are the best shmups made by only 1 guy

[Anonymous No.6686578]

>>6686557
> The more elements you skip, the less pleasure you get
the pleasure of dodging pixels and making numbers go up, your little brain can't think of anything better

[Anonymous No.6686971]

>>6686571
all of the best shmups were presented by cave

[Anonymous No.6686983]

>>6686971
that cave guy is great

[Anonymous No.6687002]

>>6686971
>>6686983
Cave games don't even blow your socks off, though

[Anonymous No.6687108]

>>6686161
Do whar kiwi did, pick up a lesser played game/mode and innovate. You won't cuz you're a shitter.

[Anonymous No.6687123]

>>6687108
>lesser played
That means they're bad.

[Anonymous No.6687159]

>>6687123
Cope with being an untalented shitter

[Anonymous No.6687214]

>>6686234
Even as Eurotrash it's still the one of the best shmups ever made. Fight me.

[Anonymous No.6687224]

ahhh yes... xenon 2 megablast... now THAT was eurotrash...

[Anonymous No.6687285]

Listen you stupid bitch. If you're not going for WR then there's no reason to play a game. If you're not first, you're last.

[Anonymous No.6687337]

>>6687224
Absolute garbage game. But its horizontal, so what do you expect.

[Anonymous No.6687350]

Are horizontal shmups made for a more casual audience while verticals are for the hardcores? Seems that way to me.

[Anonymous No.6687351]

>>6687337
ummmm akshully the correct term is vertizontal please get it right

[Anonymous No.6687523]

>>6685028
I've been goofing around with gamemaker and I can make a super basic shump. Like...Xevious basic. How the hell do you make bullet spray like that, man

[Anonymous No.6687964]

>>6687108
>innovate in blue revolver and mushi
Sounds awful and boring.but Kiwi can afford to waste some time playing games, others waste all their time getting played by games

[Anonymous No.6687990]

>>6687964
There will always be excuses.

[Anonymous No.6687991]

>>6687964
Whats awful and boring about it?

[Anonymous No.6688006]

>>6687991
He would have to do the work. Doing the work = boring, copying others work = boring. These people exist to complain and be negative while never accomplishing anything no matter how big or small.

[Anonymous No.6688018]

>>6688006
Nice projecting fag. I accomplish things that trully matter, moving up the ladder at work and getting laid. Enjoy spending thousands of hours chasing silly flashing numbers in your little games. I'll be making bank and banging skanks.

[Anonymous No.6688026]

>>6688018
same cope everytime

[Anonymous No.6688148]

M2's first Toaplan Shotniggers port is going to be Twin Cobra. They're planning to show it off in just over a week from now (playable in person + doing a stream). What's interesting is they specified it's running on Windows good chance they still won't release a PC version anyways because they're fucking gay but we'll

https://www.taito.co.jp/event/000966

[Anonymous No.6688160]

>>6688148
Ackshually, their first port will be Kyukyoku Tiger.

[Anonymous No.6688172]

>>6688148
Shoulda been Dogyuun tbf, it needs polish more than any other of Toaplan's shmups.

[Anonymous No.6688174]

>>6688018
>Kiwi can afford to waste some time playing games, others waste all their time getting played by games
deep

[Anonymous No.6688194]

>>6688026
>cope
no such thing as coping over video game achievements

>>6687991
>Whats awful and boring about it?
the idea of wasting 800 hours on a couple jank games

[Anonymous No.6688198]

>>6688194
What's the problem with the games exactly? "Jank" doesn't say anything, it makes games better as often as it hurts them

[Anonymous No.6688203]

>>6687964
>but Kiwi can afford to waste some time playing games, others waste all their time getting played by games

[Anonymous No.6688212]

>>6688198
>it makes games better as often as it hurts them
Based, a fellow man of taste. I'd actually argue it makes games better MORE than it makes games worse. Something about dealing with jank in a lot of games is just so satisfying mang.

[Anonymous No.6688232]

>>6688212
It's because you're exploring uncharted territory. You're going into places the developers did not even know existed and figuring out weird, obscure tricks. In a sense you are outsmarting the game, instead of going through the motions in a heavily controlled environment.

[Anonymous No.6688310]

>>6688232
>static memorizers have a glitch
>nowI have 1 degree of freedom!
intense stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.6688324]

>i copied the replay frame by frame!!!!! i did it i'm a super player now!!!!! YESSSSSSSS

[Anonymous No.6688351]

>>6688310
>>6688324
ebin.

[Anonymous No.6688461]

guaranteed there's a couple great players who aren't 100% losers or on welfare.
keep coping!

[Anonymous No.6688474]

>>6688310
Mad

[Anonymous No.6688498]

>>6688461
>who aren't 100% losers
how much better would they be if they didn't flush 10,000 hours down the toilet, per game?

[Anonymous No.6688515]

>>6686553
>muh social aspect
spotted the normalfag retard

[Anonymous No.6688582]

>>6688515
>>social aspect
that's important but not enough, fighting games have more unpredictability, more dynamic gameplay, higher potential for huge comebacks and much more elite level content than shmups. the fact that matches are 3-5 minutes long also helps create exciting moments. And they're more intuitive to watch for audiences.
I remember fufufu had an exciting comeback but that took a while to unfold and runs like that are very rare.

[Anonymous No.6688634]

>>6688582
true but there are many single player MH, BB and Ninja Gaiden hype compilations

[Anonymous No.6688647]

>>6688582
Shmup events tend to have quite a few good moments, there just aren't enough of them and the commentary's sperg tier

[Anonymous No.6688715]

>>6685729
>Hey let's just mention that guy again and ruin another thread
>>6686476
>make a shmup wiki
lol

[Anonymous No.6689216]

Sure are a lot of seething jarpigs ITT

[Anonymous No.6689220]

>>6689216

[Anonymous No.6689237]

>>6685539
I enjoy it sometimes myself. The two you mentioned and noiz2sa have always been staples for me.

[Anonymous No.6689271]

>>6689220
Found one of the gay elfs, lel

[Anonymous No.6690171]

[Anonymous No.6690309]

>>6688582
>fighting games have more unpredictability, more dynamic gameplay
Apples and orange, I could be criticizing them for not requiring the same level of cold-blooded discipline, memorization nor having bigger goals than just beating the faggot in turn.
>higher potential for huge comebacks
Social shit.
>and much more elite level content than shmups
Wrong, retard
>the fact that matches are 3-5 minutes long also helps create exciting moments
Social shit.
>And they're more intuitive to watch for audiences.
Again, more irrelevant social shit. Just stop being an insecure faggot and enjoy what you do instead of craving for attention.

[Anonymous No.6690316]

>>6688582
>fighting games have more unpredictability, more dynamic gameplay
Apples and orange, I could be criticizing them for not requiring the same level of cold-blooded discipline, memorization nor having bigger goals than just beating the faggot in turn.
>higher potential for huge comebacks
Social shit, and even then shmup runs are way more enjoyable in this aspect.
>and much more elite level content than shmups
Wrong, retard
>the fact that matches are 3-5 minutes long also helps create exciting moments
Social shit.
>And they're more intuitive to watch for audiences.
Again, more irrelevant social shit. Just stop being an insecure faggot and enjoy what you do instead of craving for attention.

[Anonymous No.6690460]

is raiden 3

[Anonymous No.6690462]

>>6690460
good for you

[Anonymous No.6690545]

For me, it's Raiden 4.

[Anonymous No.6690801]

>>6690316
>not requiring the same level of cold-blooded discipline
Why because shmups are less fun?lol meaningless cope like the rest of the post.

[Anonymous No.6690813]

>>6690460
>>6690545
>preferring moss raiden to seibu raiden
pleb af

[Anonymous No.6690823]

>>6690801
>I need to be an attention whore to have fun
case in point

[Anonymous No.6690827]

>>6690813
seibu raiden are unplayable shit anyway

[Anonymous No.6690851]

>>6690823
Shmuptards are attention whores too, "OMG CHECK OUT MY SWEET COUNTERSTOP BROS".

[Anonymous No.6690858]

Im strmnn DDP, come check out the route I copied, ha!

[Anonymous No.6690862]

>>6690827
seibu's raidens are fine, dont be a despatche

[Anonymous No.6690910]

>>6685425
does this mean there's just shoot + special because that's about all i can handle. i've been playing galaga 88/90 and i think it's peak shooter. I like macho jap shooters with planes and flames and shit. when i play some crap where there's girls orgasming whenever i do something, it makes me nervous.

[Anonymous No.6690923]

>>6690851
Depends on the person, meanwhile all fighting tards are attention whores.

[Anonymous No.6690929]

>>6690851
Depends on the person, overall shmuppers don't give a shit about what others think, meanwhile all fighting tards are attention whores.

[Anonymous No.6690930]

>>6690923
>[REDACTED]
seething trannyjannies.

[Anonymous No.6690974]

What is it with shmups/beatemups/rhythmgames/arcadegames that brings out people who are anti-skill? What is it with these genres where you get non-players/low-skilled players to suddenly contemplate their existence and usage of time? They have no problem playing low skilled games and shit posting over and over on the internet, but clearing a shmup in 10-20 hours is an unfathomable waste of time.

[Anonymous No.6691037]

>>6690974
It's the same small handful of "people" for years, massive long running arsepain

[Anonymous No.6691043]

>>6690929
All shmuppers are attention whores, except the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6691068]

>>6686064
>The Virgin Arcade Shmupper
-autistic and obsessive
-one hit and you're dead
-lucky to get five different weapon types
-designed to eat quarters
-linear from start to end
-if 'Congratulations' is spelled in proper English it's an above-average ending sequence
-primarily praised for its soundtrack
-has to constantly defend himself against accusations of cheating or be ostracized
>The Chad Tyrian Shmupper
-plays for fun
-big fat HP, shield, AND armor bars
-virtually unlimited combinations of weapon upgrades
-free as in beer AND freedom
-ironically, also has a secret beer minigame as well as non-linear gameplay elements
-pages and pages of in-game lore, deep compelling storyline with dozens of characters
-Alexander Brandon soundtrack isn't even the most notable thing
-so easy that no one doubts him when he claims to have beaten it

[Anonymous No.6691101]

>>6685534
How do you play forgotten worlds at home? I played once in Japan and it was the weirdest thing. The spinner was so heavy and it pressed down. I can't imagine how you get that at home.

[Anonymous No.6691130]

Yes, we'd like the whole upper level, rent free please.

[Anonymous No.6691151]

>>6691101
You can map the dial in MAME to anything with analog sensitivity, such as a mouse or stick.

[Anonymous No.6691157]

>>6691130
>fgc
Remember when the anti-shmup so called "fgc" fag got challenged by a person in these threads, and spent the entire thread dodging and deflecting? I remember.

[Anonymous No.6691162]

>>6690974
>>6691037
What anti-skill posting are you seeing here? Do you have any examples?

[Anonymous No.6691170]

I play Tekken, Guilty Gear, and Melee. Shmups are child's plays in comparison. Sorry, it's true.

[Anonymous No.6691173]

>>6691170
>Melee

[Anonymous No.6691191]

>>6691170
>melee
>Shmups are child's plays in comparison.
Looking for fresh victims in the shmups communities, mate?

[Anonymous No.6691205]

>>6691162
theres a thread before people attacking autistic speedrunners, cause some ruin their lives and make 10000 hours chasing a faster time.

[Anonymous No.6691216]

>>6691205
That sounds more like being anti-loser, not anti-skill.

[Anonymous No.6691258]

i played this the other day it was ok

[Anonymous No.6691270]

>>6691068
>eurotrash effort posting
lol

[Anonymous No.6691276]

>>6690974
Devil's advocate here.
In something like a JPRG, you can have fantastical scenarios and characters you liked. Things that trigger the imagination.

Getting good at a shmup is like, I dunno, getting good at horseshoes or beer pong. Not bad but I can see how people wouldn't get anything out of it.

[Anonymous No.6691329]

Go play Dog Fuku

[Anonymous No.6691342]

>>6686971
What is touhou

[Anonymous No.6691353]

i want to say that most jrpgs suck but it's funny to bring them up here

[Anonymous No.6691361]

>>6691276
>you can have fantastical scenarios and characters you liked.
So basically jrpgs are literature for the 5 years old? I'm sorry for playing actual video games, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6691370]

>>6691361
Lol . you're a clown

[Anonymous No.6691375]

>>6691370
seethe more jarpig

[Anonymous No.6691392]

>>6691361
literature doesn't let me deck out my waifu in epic gear and blow up dragons with Lightning 3.

[Anonymous No.6691503]

I'm ready to copy the replay.

[Anonymous No.6691507]

I'm ready to start streaming Cave.

[Anonymous No.6691582]

>>6691216
The real challenge of shmups is getting good without becoming a loser in the process.

[Anonymous No.6691589]

>>6691375
lol

[Anonymous No.6691689]

>>6689271
lol i'm new here but are gay elfs what we call jrpg characters and hence players? because that's awesome, imagine really liking such a gay retarded genre

[Anonymous No.6691734]

>>6691582
Eaglet?

[Anonymous No.6691965]

>>6691582

[Anonymous No.6692016]

>>6686971
Typical cavedrone. The Sharks, the Truxtons, Twin Cobra, Dogyuun, all better than anything Cave did. Ikeda even made his magnum opus while at Toaplan: V-V.
>>6687108
Indie shmups and worst mushi? Miss me with that trash son.
>>6691068
yikes?

[Anonymous No.6692018]

>>6691689
get a girlfriend, weebcuck.
and no, your dog doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.6692063]

>>6691370

[Anonymous No.6692083]

>>6692016
ba$ed and dadchad pilled

[Anonymous No.6692106]

>dude cave sucks lmao
>goes on to like pre-cave cave (toaplan)
everytime

[Anonymous No.6692119]

>pre-cave, post-cave, what's the difference?

[Anonymous No.6692126]

>>6692119
TWIN COBRA IS LITERALLY THE SAME AS MUSHIMESAMA FUTANARI YOU SHITLORD

[Anonymous No.6692549]

>>6685028
I was just thinking today about Chorensha because i was listening to X68000 stuff.

[Anonymous No.6692864]

>>6692106
'80s Toaplan >>> cave

[Anonymous No.6692868]

>>6691068
Tyrian is just pure comfy. Having a shmup with a sense of progression and so many locales is nice, instead of just treating everything like a boss rush. Best modern equivalent I've found is Jets'n'Guns. It scratches the itch in a different way, I just wish it had more levels.

[Anonymous No.6692898]

will M2 deliver the toaplan ports this year?

[Anonymous No.6692972]

>>6692898
Will M2 deliver any of their 30 projects this year?

[Anonymous No.6693070]

Now that gachashit has its own containment board I reckon /vg/ will be a lot slower, might be worth attempting to resurrect /shmupg/, eh lads?

[Anonymous No.6693080]

>>6692898
Hope they port them to a proper device and not that onions laden Nintendo POS

[Anonymous No.6693126]

>>6693070
my body is ready

>>6693080
PC is the answer

[Anonymous No.6693184]

>>6692898
>console ports
worthless

[Anonymous No.6693227]

>>6686161
play it yourself?

[Anonymous No.6693327]

Opinions on Wolflame?

[Anonymous No.6693678]

>>6693070
this is shmupg

[Anonymous No.6693702]

>>6693678
can't discuss post-y2k shmups here though which is cringe

>Retro gaming means ... arcade games (including pinball) ... launched in 1999 and earlier.

[Anonymous No.6693707]

aquas playing some bing bing wahoo get in here

[Anonymous No.6693763]

>>6693707
sad.

[Anonymous No.6694267]

FUCK cho ren sha I can't get in the FUCKING powerup center without touching one of them

[Anonymous No.6694269]

>>6694267
SHIT GAME

[Anonymous No.6694305]

>>6693702
You can no one actually gives a shit

[Anonymous No.6694827]

>>6693707
his brain is fried

[Anonymous No.6694838]

>>6693702
There are no good modern shmups anyways.

[Anonymous No.6694934]

>>6693070
on /vg/ you open up to weeb posting waifu faggotry, and lots of shitty modern shmup posting

[Anonymous No.6694936]

aquas is 8 hours deep into mario, the absolute dedication of this lad

[Anonymous No.6694957]

>>6687350
oh yeah? try to clear that hamster shumps

[Anonymous No.6694969]

>dedication

[Anonymous No.6694992]

im building a budget htpc (im gay) and want to be able to emulate radiant silvergun. will a ryzen 5 do this well? can i get by with integrated graphics?

[Anonymous No.6695009]

Aquas, and everyone like him, is wasting his prime years playing silly video games all day every day when he should be out making bank and banging skanks. It truly hurts to see this.

[Anonymous No.6695016]

>>6691582
you mean get wrs on games and counterstopped pussy irl?

[Anonymous No.6695036]

>>6691582
>The real challenge of shmups is getting good without becoming a loser in the process.

[Anonymous No.6695050]

Oh it's you guys.
Need to say this again since things haven't changed. You're all embarrassments to the community and probably the biggest obstacle in attracting new players.
Heard at a recent event that people who approached us were positively surprised as they we're expecting the autistic screeching you see on display at the forum, 4ch or discord these days.
Sad. Take a shower, get a job, learn to speak like a human being and have some discipline in your life, then new and cool players will come.

[Anonymous No.6695061]

>>6695050

[Anonymous No.6695071]

>>6693678
that explains a lot

[Anonymous No.6695073]

>>6694992
you should be able to emulate up to ps2 full speed

[Anonymous No.6695079]

>>6695050
>Need to say this again since things haven't changed. You're all embarrassments to the community and probably the biggest obstacle in attracting new players.
Say again, which community?

>Take a shower, get a job, learn to speak like a human being and have some discipline in your life, then new and cool players will come.
lmao still hoping for new players
It's dead Jim

>>6695071
Still missing degenerate weeb posters tho.

[Anonymous No.6695115]

Mark will save shmups

[Anonymous No.6695118]

>>6693070
Nah let it rest in peace itll just be disgraceful if you revive it

[Anonymous No.6695161]

Since Dreamcast is /vr/, what are some Dreamcast shmups that don't suck?

I've been playing and really enjoying pic related, but I also played Cannon Spike and couldn't fucking stand the lock-on system. I'm gonna play Gunbird 2 soon, but some other suggestions would be cool.

[Anonymous No.6695174]

>>6695161
Cannon Spike takes a little bit of getting used to but after a while it becomes second nature

Try Border Down and Psyvariar

[Anonymous No.6695180]

>>6695161
Trizeal is okay, so is Triggerheart Exelica

[Anonymous No.6695189]

>>6695174
Yeah it's a cool game, I just need to get more practice with the lock-on. Thanks for the recs

[Anonymous No.6695292]

wtf happened to aquas

[Anonymous No.6695695]

name 3 (san 三 ) awesome things left to do in shmups, you can't.

[Anonymous No.6696008]

"aquas"? is that the same aquas i used to talk to on earthbound.net/starmen.net literally 20 years ago?

[Anonymous No.6696069]

>>6695161
Giga Wing 2 is p. good if you're into tranmaku.

[Anonymous No.6696072]

>>6696008
yes

[Anonymous No.6696097]

>>6695695
1) Personally clear Twin Cobra for the first time
2) Personally clear Muchi Muchi Pork for the first time
3) Make people remember that Bullet Soul was a game and that it exists.

[Anonymous No.6696468]

>>6696072
holy shit i'll have to reach out to him. i was talking to this dude in the late 90s. thanks dude

[Anonymous No.6698082]

>>6695695
>name 3 (san 三 ) awesome things left to do in shmups, you can't.
NMNB Psikyo 2-alls are always awesome.

[Anonymous No.6698218]

>new std weekly
>its fuckin indieshit

[Anonymous No.6698324]

>>6698218
>>its fuckin indieshit

[Anonymous No.6698370]

>>6698218
how long has it been since std weakly covered NON indieshit?

[Anonymous No.6699934]

lads.

[Anonymous No.6700018]

which dead game are you pouring your energy into? for me it's gregg.

[Anonymous No.6700191]

why do people shit on progear?

[Anonymous No.6700608]

>>6700191
Because the second loop has checkpoints, and the danmakuck fears dadshit elements.

[Anonymous No.6701674]

aquas settling in for another bing bing wahoo marathon bros

[Anonymous No.6702126]

NMK #1

[Anonymous No.6702259]

>>6685718
Is this worth 60 dollars?

[Anonymous No.6702336]

>>6702259
why not emulate it on MAME first and find out yourself

[Anonymous No.6703131]

>>6685387
>>6692083
>>6700608

why do you guys call everything dadcore when your real dad thinks you're a faggot?

[Anonymous No.6703143]

>>6703131
Dadshit is love
Dadshit is life

[Anonymous No.6703156]

>>6703143
what the fuck is is a "Toaplan"? why can't you be more like your brother?

[Anonymous No.6703193]

What shmups did ya'll's dads like playing?
Mine was into Galaga.

[Anonymous No.6703207]

>>6703143
There is literally nothing wrong with being transgender.

[Anonymous No.6703246]

>>6703193
my dad hated all video games that weren't those Cabela's hunting arcade games

[Anonymous No.6703260]

>>6703207
Yes there is.

[Anonymous No.6703274]

>>6703207
>>6703260
what's the point of making fun of trannies when you're posting in a thread filled entirely with them?

[Anonymous No.6703289]

>>6703274
Are you just wishfully thinking because you wanna bang a tranny, or what?

[Anonymous No.6703292]

>>6693327

Couldn't keep me as hooked as other Astro Port games. Might go back to it someday though.

Also fuck purple shots.

[Anonymous No.6703318]

>>6703289
you're the one posting in the thread about a genre useless to anyone who's not a Japanese shemale NEET with hours to spend 1ccing arcade machines. dadshit is just a meme for repressed faggots trying to cope with the fact that they'll never have kids. none of us are winners here.

[Anonymous No.6704862]

>>6703318
the projection level is over 9000

[Anonymous No.6704975]

>>6703318
>seething at old shmups
>projecting own faggotry
>coping over being a loser neet
We got a trifecta: seething, coping and projecting.

[Anonymous No.6704998]

>>6703207
>There is literally nothing wrong with being transgender.
There are only two genders and a lot of mental illnesses.

[Anonymous No.6705478]

>>6704998
>blm
>atheist
>tranny

the trifecta of cringe

[Anonymous No.6705598]

>>6686526
>And, by the same logic, all puzzle games are pointless because the puzzles have been solved. See the problem with your train of thought?

Call me when the general advice to solving a puzzle is "look up how the best is doing it on youtube" because that's literally what's happening with shmups.

Shmups were fun to play before the internet age, when it was fun to practice on your own to find the best routes. Now that I can access the optimal route online it feels autistic to try to reinvent the wheel, especially when I will never be competitive enough unless I accept the truth that the game is "solved".

[Anonymous No.6705612]

>>6705598
Is anyone seriously meant to buy that the thing stopping you from achieving WR level scores is the fact that you have to copy routes? lol

[Anonymous No.6705617]

>>6705612
if someone like markgaysex can then anyone can, just takes enough copying and grinding

[Anonymous No.6705661]

>>6705617
MarkMSX doesn't have WR tier scores in anything competitive, what. Even without copying the vast majority of your time and effort would be spent improving your execution and making slight adjustments first and foremost which you're averse to. The truth is that even if you got handed an amazing shmups which was completely unexplored by any high level players, the only thing you'd get good at is giving excuses for why you're not playing it.

[Anonymous No.6705698]

>>6705612
>Is anyone seriously meant to buy that the thing stopping you from achieving WR level scores is the fact that you have to copy routes? lol
He's talking about randomness and versatility in puzzle games versus complete memorization grinding in shmups, why did you immediately go to WR cope smokescreen?

[Anonymous No.6705707]

>>6702336
Computer is broken

[Anonymous No.6705709]

>>6705661
>imagine this situation where I'm right and you're wrong
not an argument retard

[Anonymous No.6705714]

>>6705698
He's not, are you illiterate? He directly says shmups were fun pre-internet and his main complaint is that he can't be competitive without copying. It's all cope my man

[Anonymous No.6705736]

>>6705709
>I-I'd get good if only I could innovate my own routes I swear!

[Anonymous No.6705737]

>>6705714
> He directly says shmups were fun pre-internet and his main complaint is that he can't be competitive without copying.

His main complain is accurate in 99% of cases. Specially if he's mainly interested in a few shmups that are highly optimized, then there's a huge incentive to copy routes that are light years ahead of anything he could invent on his own.

[Anonymous No.6705743]

>>6705737
Nah plenty of games and modes that are underplayed as fuck, some are still coming out. Just recently we had Deathtiny, Psyvariar Delta and I guess that Shikigami arrange. And yeah of course he's very conveniently only interested in the games that are highly optimized, otherwise he'd have to get good and stop whinging!

[Anonymous No.6705748]

Just don't play for scoring autism (like the great Icycalm once said, pbuh), then you don't have to worry about being a copymonkey.

[Anonymous No.6705750]

>>6695161
Mars matrix. Ikaruga.

[Anonymous No.6705759]

>>6705748
Scoring's great and ignoring it is pretty dumb, WR tier scoring not so much

[Anonymous No.6705760]

>>6705743
>And yeah of course he's very conveniently only interested in the games
No, it's not surprising that most people flock to highly optimized games rather than less optimized, they're optimized because they're more popular, get more exposure, have attractive presentation and so forth. That's why more people are going to get into Cave games than NMK.

[Anonymous No.6705779]

>>6705759
>Scoring's great
Nah, it turns you into an autistic tranny, similar to speedrunning.

[Anonymous No.6705782]

>>6705760
So play new/underplayed modes in popular games then, like the previously mentioned Deathtiny, upcoming CCWI remix or whatever the fuck that's gonna be, Rolling Gunner DLC, Blue Revolver Double Action if that ever comes out, maybe some underplayed ship types, underplayed revisions & more. Those who want to do this will find something to play, those who don't will make one excuse after another.

[Anonymous No.6705785]

>>6705779
If you're a failed man with no sense of identity or purpose maybe, otherwise it's just scoring

[Anonymous No.6705813]

>>6705782
>So play new/underplayed modes in popular games then, like the previously mentioned Deathtiny, upcoming CCWI remix or whatever the fuck that's gonna be, Rolling Gunner DLC, Blue Revolver Double Action if that ever comes out, maybe some underplayed ship types, underplayed revisions & more. Those who want to do this will find something to play, those who don't will make one excuse after another.
Settling with weird arrange modes and hoping a new release might be good is just a cope, he's better off playing a genre that works for him in general, rather than search for crumbs among shmups.

[Anonymous No.6705829]

>>6705813
Plenty of very good arrange modes around, some better than the original games. There's ones which just shuffle encounters while leaving the scoring intact, such as Psyvariar Delta. That release has plenty of interesting stuff in general, like playing Medium Unit with Revision's mechanics. If the main releases are so unplayable because of the competition, why not pick something very similar that's guaranteed to be more fun because it's relatively unoptimized?

[Anonymous No.6705923]

>>6685029
Except they didn't? They share their board with all RPG's, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.6705929]

>>6705923
I think that's a bait, don't bother

[Anonymous No.6705972]

When someone irl asks what are shmups? What three examples do you name?

[Anonymous No.6706075]

>>6705972
Xevious
Gradius
Darius

[Anonymous No.6706082]

>>6705972
Something by early Cave or Ikaruga, both have nice presentation and an obvious hook

[Anonymous No.6706167]

the virgin shmuptranny that plays for scoring autism
vs
the chad bmupbro that plays to collect 1 coin clears

[Anonymous No.6706174]

>>6706167
Not so fast
>spends ages doing autistic Light Bringer scoring
Pasky was a tranny after all

[Anonymous No.6706181]

>>6687523
I imagine you'd need to be pretty good at triganometry to make some of the fancier patterns

Theres a markup language called BulletML that you can use for bullet patterns, but I don't know how you actually use it

[Anonymous No.6706330]

Jaimers... Here i come!

[Anonymous No.6706351]

>>6706330
>Gunbird
Meh. 1st gen Psikyo games are so boring compared to their later games.

[Anonymous No.6707561]

>1CC Collector
Yikes? You need to challenge your limits, train hard, and push yourself past what you thought you were capable of. Only then will you be able to stand on the shoulders of giants. Collecting easy 1CC's won't bring you to the next frontier.

[Anonymous No.6707819]

>>6707561
If only you applied that mentality to things beyond games lol

[Anonymous No.6707835]

>>6707561
being able to 1cc a bunch of different games > having a top 10 score in 1 or 2 games

keep on being a one-trick tranny, though, if that's what gets you off

[Anonymous No.6707841]

Your place on a scoreboard is finite and transient, but a 1cc List will last forever.

[Anonymous No.6707859]

>>6706167

chads dont randomly deactivate their twitter account multiple times.

[Anonymous No.6707871]

>>6707859
Pussky

[Anonymous No.6707881]

I'm here to talk shit and play shmups, and I've retired from shmups.

[Anonymous No.6707950]

>>6707835
>being able to 1cc a bunch of different games > having a top 10 score in 1 or 2 games
I can't validate my life by collecting 1CCs like I can when I push myself to the brink by improving my PB in one game.
Playing one game to the limit allows me to immerse myself completely in the concrete and valuable achievement that will put me above giants and show the world who I am.

[Anonymous No.6708061]

>If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery--isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it. And, you'll do it, despite rejection and the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine. If you're going to try, go all the way. There is no other feeling like that. You will be alone with the gods, and the nights will flame with fire. You will ride life straight to perfect laughter. It's the only good fight there is.

These are words to live by.

[Anonymous No.6708113]

>>6707950
>Playing one game to the limit allows me to immerse myself completely in the concrete and valuable achievement that will put me above giants and show the world who I am.
>and show the world who I am.
pic of (you)

[Anonymous No.6708184]

>>6708061
>And it will be better than anything else you can imagine
Streaming a dead game for 5 idle viewers is the best thing some autists can imagine? Is that it?

[Anonymous No.6709616]

Scoring vs 1cc's is a dumb, artificial conflict. Scorefags will regularly collect 1cc's on the side and 1cc collectors will often do some scoring while working on the goal.

[Anonymous No.6709996]

>Gradius games and Raiden games are the most popular games to superplay in Japan
>Cave, 2hu and other tranmaku are the most popular in the west
Hm... rly made me think...

[Anonymous No.6710005]

>>6709996
>Gradius games and Raiden games are the most popular games to superplay in Japan

[Anonymous No.6710108]

>>6710005
Just check out any random shmup stream on Nico, it's pretty much always a jap multi-looping Gradius 1/2/3 or Raiden 1/2/DX.

[Anonymous No.6710152]

>>6710108
All I saw was touhoushit

[Anonymous No.6710183]

>>6710152
Then you didn't look hard enough.

https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327487663
https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327486440
https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327485697
https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327482272
https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327484975

[Anonymous No.6712243]

Touhou players are pedophiles

[Anonymous No.6712271]

>>6712243
Can confirm, am pedophile.
I play 14.3 Impossible Spell Card

[Anonymous No.6712679]

why is the shmup community so fractured? can't we all just... get along?

[Anonymous No.6712683]

>>6712679
because you made it your mission to shit up the rest of the board.

[Anonymous No.6713170]

>>6712243
hush hush no one discuss it!

[Anonymous No.6713225]

Take your meds

[Anonymous No.6713257]

>>6707950
Fuck off Gus

[Anonymous No.6713269]

How did these players in Japan get such amazing scores back in the 90's in such short time? You look at the scores of DoDonPachi back then and they are way better than any Western players score today, and we have MAME and savestates to abuse the fuck out of. Was is because they worked on that shit as a team?

[Anonymous No.6713271]

>>6713269
probably because they were lol i know you know what im gonna say, you figured id say "NOT RETRO" right? but you were wondering what the rest of the spoiler was lmao

[Anonymous No.6713281]

>>6713271
What is not retro about my post? Take your fucking meds

[Anonymous No.6713285]

>>6713281
what? I didn't say NOT RETRO, I said you probably guessed I'd say that. Can you even read?

[Anonymous No.6713289]

>>6713285
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.6713292]

>>6713289
>can't read
>makes ass of himself
>tells someone who's on his side to shut the fuck up
you don't have many friends do you

[Anonymous No.6713293]

I SAID TAKE YOUR MEDS DAMMIT

[Anonymous No.6713301]

>>6713292
I'm not going to take more than 15 seconds to decipher your spoiler. Why reply with such a useless message.

[Anonymous No.6713305]

>>6713301
I clarified it in the next post, what's the fucking mystery to you lol

[Anonymous No.6713309]

>>6713305
Your entire sentence is fucked, and the way it flows into the spoiler makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.6713312]

>>6713309
And? The next post clarifies the whole thing, so why have a spackerattack about it?

[Anonymous No.6713316]

>>6713312
Alright man. Still, take your meds.

[Anonymous No.6713317]

>>6713316
you weren't even talking to me when you said that initially lmao

[Anonymous No.6713339]

>>6707950
holy shit how did I miss this post lol

[Anonymous No.6713346]

>dude pressing the button 3 times a seconds will give my dainty hands carpel tunnel I NEED autofire
why are shmup players afraid of pressing buttons? IIDX players don't need autofire

[Anonymous No.6713349]

>>6712679
>why is the shmup community so fractured? can't we all just... get along?
each community has a dozen different mental illnesses, segregation is mandatory

[Anonymous No.6713428]

>>6713346
>3 taps per sec
That's semi autofire territory, play a game with an unlocked fire rate for extended periods of time and then come back

[Anonymous No.6713432]

>>6713428
Limp wristed mary

[Anonymous No.6713434]

>>6685029
jarpig cope about being delegated to containment board

[Anonymous No.6713445]

shmup monkey says: wheres the autofire button

[Anonymous No.6713446]

>>6713445
Based, auto fire is on the left side btw

[Anonymous No.6713447]

>>6713432
A limp wrist would help alleviate RSI if anything

[Anonymous No.6713469]

>>6713271
You'd fit right in with shmup gang with that sense of humor, come join us friendo!

[Anonymous No.6713513]

>>6713271
>dodonpachi
>not retro

[Anonymous No.6713516]

Give me a quick rundown on the different shmup factions.

[Anonymous No.6713524]

>>6713516
Japanese players: On another level compared to westcucks. Gets top scores and hold almost all records with ease.
Western Players: At a constant conflict with one another. Everyone wants to impress each other, but no one has the skills to do so. You got separate communities like the shmups forum who are the old guard. Some shmupscrubs decided they don't like that place because its full of old people and collectors and made a discord. That discord gets full of non-players and scrubs and is ran by a NEET who wants to make a living posting on twitter. You also got another discord that's made by a youtuber that also has ulterior motives. Then you got shmupg aka 4chan shmups threads that were originally on /vg/ now /vr/. The discords fear the shmupg, but shmupg is at a constant war within it self with non-players and jrpg fans. In the west no one wins.

[Anonymous No.6713547]

>>6713524
>run by a NEET
>another discord made by a youtuber
Why do their personal lives matter?


>but shmupg is at a constant war within it self with non-players and jrpg fans
shmupg is abbreviation for shmup gang? why do they care about jrpgs and non-players?

[Anonymous No.6713556]

>>6713547
>Why do their personal lives matter?
They are trying to profit off shmups and their communities.

shmupg is an abbreviation for shmup general for the general thread on /vg/. non-players pretend to like shmups but don't actually play them. instead they turn to jrpgs or collecting shmups to sit on their shelves. they use shmups to up their gamer cred. This is just the surface of what I've seen the past 8 years I've been into shmups.

[Anonymous No.6713563]

>>6713556
>They are trying to profit off shmups and their communities.
the guy who makes my pizza wants a profit too, but the pizza is good.

>non-players pretend to like shmups but don't actually play them. instead they turn to jrpgs or collecting shmups to sit on their shelves. they use shmups to up their gamer cred. This is just the surface of what I've seen the past 8 years I've been into shmups.
But what tangible problem does that create? Are they stopping others from playing?

[Anonymous No.6713580]

>>6713563
>But what tangible problem does that create? Are they stopping others from playing?
Nothing. That's the problem, everyone in the west is trying to impress each other with their shitty shmup skills, so you get a lot of people looking down on others for playing other genres or only going for 1cc's and not dedicating their entire life to a single 40 minutes long shmup to play for a score that won't even come close to the top Japanese players. You'll get 14 youtube views and a few reactions on discord at most. Then you got shmup players who think collecting is somehow bad for the community because the game is going to sit on someones shelf left to be unplayed. But this is a non-issue as every single worth while shmup has already been dumped and archived all across the internet. You have access to all these games in MAME and other emulators and can play pirated games on real consoles. Bitching about Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets being $300 on 360 or that a PCB is $1000 because of collectors is useless because you still have access to the game if you pirate it. The community is full of elitists from every angle.

[Anonymous No.6713597]

>>6713524
i joined one of those discords and four people helped me right away

[Anonymous No.6713605]

>>6713597
Which one? Marks discord I'm guess. Elixirs has left me hanging multiple times.

[Anonymous No.6713616]

>>6713605
the youtube guy's discord.

[Anonymous No.6713621]

>>6713616
thats the good one as it is pretty much has only shmup channels.

[Anonymous No.6713662]

You are severely, mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.6713676]

>>6713662
>You are severely, mentally ill.
not retro.

[Anonymous No.6713712]

>>6713524
All shmup communities fear shmupg. They can do nothing but ban us from their safe space hug boxes, which are full of loser NEET's with no future, yet we will always be here to expose the faults within the communities, and they will always seethe, and make passive aggressive comments on Twatter or Cuckcord. We run this town. Don't you forget it.

[Anonymous No.6713787]

>>6713712
Don't expect to be above the rules in a shmup discord.

[Anonymous No.6713927]

>>6713434
>containment board
By this logic /vr/ is a containment board to /v/ and not the other way around, since you can talk about retro games in /v/. Whatever helps you sleep at night lol.

[Anonymous No.6714001]

>>6713524
mark's discord is pretty good to get info, tons of active players to help you out. pretty chill too, i don't see the constant conflict you're talking about.

as for japanese players being higher level ofc they are : they have a whole culture built around arcades since the late seventies and at least a few hundreds times the amount of players the west got. not comparable. in the west even the most popular games barely gets half a dozen active players. we still have some great players though. one sure thing : your seething shows you're not one of them ;^). a westie just got the mushi maniac WR btw.

[Anonymous No.6714019]

the more you worry about the community and individual players the more ''problems'' you're going to imagine, the smart players don't bother with that waste of time, they enjoy the games, like this guy mentioned >>6714001

[Anonymous No.6714023]

>>6685029
>being proud of having a containment board
lol

[Anonymous No.6714028]

>>6713927
The difference is that /vr/ was made because retro discussion was becoming unviable on /v/ due to its focus on modern gaming news and shitposting. /vrpg/ on the other hand was made because RPGfags infested every other board.

[Anonymous No.6714031]

>>6714023
containment means focus and vitality, instead of searching for threads across /v/, /vr/, /vg/ we can scroll through one board easily. the fact that we have an entire board means we have a lively genre.

[Anonymous No.6714039]

>>6685028
I mean every Shootemup is basically the same game just with a gimmick and different visuals. easily one of the easiest genres of game to make

[Anonymous No.6714042]

>>6714039
lol try it

[Anonymous No.6714043]

Currently playing through U.N. Squadron. The only other shops I've ever played were Life Force and Gradius 3. I'm digging it, nice variety of stage locations and different planes and weapons. Also like that the health recharges if you don't take a hit for a few seconds. Wish it had 1 or 2 additional bonus stages though. Last night I was trying to grind for the $1,000,000 plane and I did the bonus stage like 10 times in a row, got pretty repetitive but besides that its been fun.

[Anonymous No.6714263]

>>6714039
>I mean every sport is basically the same game just with a gimmick and different body motions.

[Anonymous No.6714270]

>>6714039
>easily one of the easiest genres of game to make
This is what euroshmup devs ACTUALLY believe

[Anonymous No.6714517]

Got the 1ALL!

[Anonymous No.6714524]

>>6714517
I love how you always hide out and pout in the same generals when things don’t go your way. Of course you’re a shmupnigger lmfao shouldn’t even be surprised.

[Anonymous No.6714526]

>>6714524
I do not post in any other generals

[Anonymous No.6714530]

>>6714526
Of course you don’t. Because shitposting isn’t actually posting, remember? Get a grip retard

[Anonymous No.6714547]

>>6714517
Madmax is still alive? Wow.

[Anonymous No.6714551]

>>6714517
Max was born and raised on shmupg, now look at him tearing it up. Thattaboy.

[Anonymous No.6714562]

>>6714547
This is the real "50 mil" Max not that gay cunt

[Anonymous No.6714602]

>>6714517
jaimers would be #1 if he wanted to

[Anonymous No.6715017]

>>6714562
>"50 mil" Max
lolwho

[Anonymous No.6715031]

>>6714602
Westerners aren't even in the same league as Asians when it comes to shmups

[Anonymous No.6715110]

I'm rusty, I got to the Level 3 Boss but was sub 40

[Anonymous No.6715148]

>>6713349
What does the Scorpio icon represent?

[Anonymous No.6715154]

>>6714602
At least it's true for this one.

[Anonymous No.6715253]

Just had a go of Strikers 1945, this is a lot harder than 'Bird, might be a tough 1ALL

Almost in the top 100, less people have 1ALLed this game than Gunbird, but it looks like there are alot more people with sub 1ALL scores on the board

[Anonymous No.6715265]

>>6715253
Yea, Gunbird is the easiest Psikyo shmup.

Sengoku Ace is also on the easier side, but recovery is harder than GB, so if you die your run is more or less fucked.

[Anonymous No.6715271]

>>6715265
>Sengoku Ace

I think this was my first 1ALL about 5 years ago, I'd say it was significantly easier with Gunbird, there's one ship that makes it easy to do pointblank quick kills

[Anonymous No.6715376]

>>6715031
Haven't heard of Jaimers have you? He's on a level above the Asians.

[Anonymous No.6715458]

>>6715376
Japanese can't be beaten because we wait so long for university place. Meanwhile we play at the game center.

[Anonymous No.6715553]

>>6715265
Maybe for loop 1 but loop 2 of Gunbird is a lot harder.

[Anonymous No.6715624]

>Raiden
>stages are just boring aimed shots
>bosses are just static patterns with boring safespots

Why do people like this shitty series again?

[Anonymous No.6715635]

>>6715624
I don't argue with little pissheads

[Anonymous No.6715906]

KKK Tiger is now this week's game at HEY's stream:

https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv327514627

[Anonymous No.6716360]

>Jaimers
>"durrr toaplan is bad bcuz of low shot limits"
And people suck this guy's dick? Lol...

[Anonymous No.6716364]

>>6716360
>Jaimers
Top western player who gets better and better at his craft, meanwhile you've done what? Let's see.

[Anonymous No.6716381]

Jaimers could be #1 in every Toaplan game if he wanted to. If he says they're bad, they're bad.

[Anonymous No.6716387]

>>6716364
and who are you... what's your name?

[Anonymous No.6716389]

>>6716364
>Top western player who gets better and better at his craft,
I just play for fun.

[Anonymous No.6716405]

>>6716364
>2 minute reply
Damn, Jaimers secondaries have nothing better to do than wait to jump to that overrated faggot's defense?

[Anonymous No.6716432]

>>6716405
>dodge
you got your +15 skirt of evasion on?

[Anonymous No.6716550]

>>6716360
Doesn't he like some toaplan games?

[Anonymous No.6716574]

almost everyone ITT was "that kid" growing up, you can just tell

[Anonymous No.6716685]

>tfw you get looked down upon for playing with a controller instead of arcade stick

[Anonymous No.6716687]

shmup discuck already have become a shitposting paradise, wth you shit on here too? was it not enough?

[Anonymous No.6716689]

>>6716687
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.6716850]

>>6713580
> Bitching about Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets being $300 on 360 or that a PCB is $1000 because of collectors is useless because you still have access to the game if you pirate it. The community is full of elitists from every angle.

speaking of PCBs, how much do you reckon an SDOJ pcb costs these days? I'm looking to grab a shuri control panel for my cabinet too.

[Anonymous No.6717009]

>>6716850
Heard people saying it goes for $8000 or something

[Anonymous No.6717358]

You're not a REAL gamer unless you play shmups. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.6717432]

>>6715624
>why raiden good?
take it up with WTN, I don't give a heck

[Anonymous No.6717458]

>>6717009
only $8000?
time to double dip!

[Anonymous No.6717476]

You all wouldn't play these games if you actually had jobs.

[Anonymous No.6717584]

>>6717476
Why would I get a job when I can collect welfare and play games all day? Dumbass

[Anonymous No.6717585]

>>6717476
on the contrary, without my job I couldn't afford all my big boy toys

[Anonymous No.6717590]

https://youtu.be/ESIA3V4zFLs
Chorensha really is one of the best games the genre has to offer. I personally find it to be better than any of Psikyo's offerings, and more comparable to a Cave or toaplan game.

[Anonymous No.6717593]

nothing compares to cave

[Anonymous No.6717608]

>>6717585
winner

>>6717584
loser

[Anonymous No.6717813]

My goal, you ask? Heh... That's simple. To become the greatest shmupper that ever lived!

[Anonymous No.6717832]

>>6717585
I wouldn't exactly call your set up "big boy toys", not that I'm really trying to knock you, but you could get better speakers than that at a thrift store. You could be playing on a 27'' 1440p 144hz IPS monitor. You could be playing on a custom made Arcade stick that's made with brand new arcade parts that would last your life time.

[Anonymous No.6717856]

>>6717585
>>6717832
Look if you've got a hundred dollars to burn on audio at least get the Creative Labs GigaWorks T40 Series II. They are simply the best stand alone stereo speakers out there. If you're not interested in having separate amplifier and speakers set up.

[Anonymous No.6717861]

>>6715031
Again that cuck mindset, still the same bullshit that the weaked minded keep repeating since the old farm days

Glad to see /vr/gins are on the same page as farmdads while actual players enjoy their games (and sometimes even beat japanese at their own games)

[Anonymous No.6717869]

>>6716685
Only posers would do that, many good players use keyboards and pads

[Anonymous No.6717872]

>>6717869
Are PC-Engine / Saturn players posers? No. Controllers are fine. It's the skill and enjoyment that matters.

[Anonymous No.6717876]

>>6717872
Ur reading my post wrong

[Anonymous No.6717885]

Tell me what must play shmups are if I enjoyed Soldier Blade, Radiant Silvergun, and Sapphire

[Anonymous No.6717895]

>>6717885
Flame Zapper Kotsujin

[Anonymous No.6718012]

>>6717885
Mushihimesama Futari 1.01

[Anonymous No.6718414]

>>6717476
Arcade games are perfect if you have a job. They last 30 minutes to an hour and are pure gameplay. You can savestate practice for however long you want and still get better. Keep in mind, the average shmup takes 10-25 hours to 1cc which is a lot lower than most games.

[Anonymous No.6718468]

>>6685028
>made by ONE guy
made by two people
>>6685081
>coding skills (68k asm)
the game was mostly written in C.
>>6685047
>he rehashes the backdrops
his choice of using C probably didn't help when conserving precious RAM. floppy disk access is also slow as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6718475]

>>6717476
said the 100 hours per game jarpig

[Anonymous No.6718935]

You're not a real STG Chad if you haven't gotten any NMK clears.

[Anonymous No.6718948]

>>6718475
Finishing an RPG takes far less time than you grinding away for a good score in some shitty shmup, though.

[Anonymous No.6718957]

>>6716364
I have a higher score in Battle Garegga than him. :^)

[Anonymous No.6718976]

Has anyone ever made it pass this faggot without clever use of the 7 way shot?

[Anonymous No.6719363]

>>6717590
for retro yes, for modern ccwi is

[Anonymous No.6719574]

>>6718948
That's not comparable retard, you should compare finishing a jarpig to just 1cc'ing which takes on average about 10 hours.

[Anonymous No.6719580]

>>6719574
Also people who score only play one game, it's not comparable to jarpigs finishing many games in a short amount of times.

[Anonymous No.6719582]

>>6685028
I can play anything but shmups and rts. What the fuck is wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.6719602]

>>6719582
Low IQ

[The megacuminant !!CU/mz9ngZV0 No.6719619]

>>6719582
ADHD and low iq.

[Anonymous No.6719637]

>>6719582
rts and shmups take a lot of memorization and careful execution, they also need a wide view of what's going on, if you get tunnel vision you'll crash and burn

[Anonymous No.6719670]

>>6718948
>>6719580
>>6719574
>That's not comparable retard, you should compare finishing a jarpig to just 1cc'ing which takes on average about 10 hours

not comparable either. gaming isn't speedrunning, how someone manages their time is up to them, not the genre. You could end up wasting more time collecting piss easy 1ccs than some guy playing one jrpg.

[Anonymous No.6719679]

>>6685539
Ever play Clean Asia?

[Anonymous No.6719686]

>>6718948
>>6719580
>>6719574
>That's not comparable retard, you should compare finishing a jarpig to just 1cc'ing which takes on average about 10 hours

not comparable either. gaming isn't speedrunning, how someone manages their time is up to them, not the genre. You could end up wasting more time collecting piss easy 1ccs than some guy playing jrpgs, or some guy scoring 1 shmup.

[Anonymous No.6719692]

>>6719582
You don't suffer from autism. Consider yourself lucky.

[Anonymous No.6719706]

>>6719686
Either way fuck off, jarpigs are at the very least as much a waste of time, with the only difference that they are fucking boring compared to shmups.

[Anonymous No.6719723]

>>6719706
>jarpigs are at the very least as much a waste of time
let's agree on that, time management isn't up to the genre, it's up to us
>with the only difference that they are fucking boring compared to shmups.
pure prejudice and ingnorance on your part, because being able to extract fun, and excitement out of a genre is a skill in itself, it really depends on the player and his own thinking

[Anonymous No.6719726]

>>6719706
Shmups are more boring, unless you do self-imposed challenge runs like 1cc or scoring, but only literal autists do that kinda shit.

[Anonymous No.6719738]

>>6719723
>because being able to extract fun, and excitement out of a genre is a skill in itself
Jarpigs have objectively mucho, much more dead time, which is the main enemy of gameplay, you can enjoy whatever shit you want but objectively they just aren't as good games.
>>6719726
>unless you do self-imposed challenge runs like 1cc or scoring
That's the whole fucking point of arcade games you retard.

[Anonymous No.6719742]

Friendly reminder don't engage the jarpig guy. His main goal is stirring up shit.

[Anonymous No.6719875]

>>6718935
no mook kills? what is nmk?

[Anonymous No.6719904]

>>6719875
no more kikes?

[Anonymous No.6719916]

Reminder: you forfeit your manhood if you ever use savestates, even if it's just to "practice".

[Anonymous No.6720298]

I would like to see the retro shmup art

[Anonymous No.6721231]

Should I play Gradius 2 or Gradius Leo next?

[Anonymous No.6721423]

>>6719875
nefariously masochistic kusoges

[Anonymous No.6721449]

>>6719904
Best timeline

[Anonymous No.6721491]

>>6719875
Nihon Maicom Kaihatsu, also known as NMK, was a Japanese video game developer, active from the mid 80s to the late 90s.
Their artists had some unique styles when it came to drawing sprites. They made some interesting games that went more or less under the radar. Like most obscure developers they still have a cult following in Japan.

[Anonymous No.6721581]

>>6721231
skip and try DDP

[Anonymous No.6721612]

22-years and still unmatched

[Anonymous No.6721692]

>>6721612
>Trashure
lmao

[Anonymous No.6721709]

>>6721692
How are they trash?

[Anonymous No.6721715]

Keep seething cuz RTS chads got their own board

[Anonymous No.6721737]

>>6721715
Fuck you. :"(

[Anonymous No.6721769]

>>6721709
Their shmups are lame and they ruined Gradius.

[Anonymous No.6721774]

>>6721769
>calls shmups lame with no explanation

oh ok, I'm glad you're well versed on Treasure games and shooters. Wow, how fortunate we are to have you here!

[Anonymous No.6721790]

>>6721774
Triggered Trashure fanboy kek.

[Anonymous No.6721792]

>>6721769
>>6721774
>>6721790
you all type awful similarly

[Anonymous No.6721843]

>>6721792
You should never tell somehow how you caught them. They might not make that mistake next time.

[Anonymous No.6722537]

Is rapid fire intended to be used?

I don't play shmups but I have this Darius collection on switch. The game is like double wide and looks cool but I don't wanna turbo scum if it's not intended but I can only fire like 4 bullets at a time manually.

Im trying to figure out the intended legit arcade rate of fire intended

[Anonymous No.6722824]

>>6722537
Autofire is cheating but everyone uses it so it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.6722826]

>>6721843
I have a feeling you won’t be able to resist making the same mistakes over and over again

[Anonymous No.6723636]

>>6721581
>DDP
fuck that and go play mars matrix, a more fun bullet hell than anything cave shat out.

[Anonymous No.6723670]

>>6723636
thats wrong and dumb - you should know better

[Anonymous No.6723684]

>>6723636
I'm sure you know nothing about either Mars Matrix and DDP

[Anonymous No.6723705]

>>6723670
Stfu cavecuck.
>>6723684
Know more than you, muhammad.

[Anonymous No.6724256]

If you don't work, don't forget that no matter what you "accomplish", you're still a loser. ;)

[Anonymous No.6724351]

>>6724256
Who are you talking to?

>>6723636
can you share what you like about it? Whenever someone mentions MM positively it's a drive by comment, once and done, with no explanation, and usually angry at other games

[Anonymous No.6724684]

>Who are you talking to?
Everyone who plays shmups. :)

[Anonymous No.6724721]

>>6723636
That must've been the reason while Takumi was around for so long, making many shmups after that one, right?!

[Anonymous No.6724736]

>>6721790
>>6721692
>>6721769
Silence australia

[Anonymous No.6724794]

>>6723636
nice to see somehow praise that game

what's your score?

[Anonymous No.6724843]

>>6721769
>Trashure ruined Gradius.
Based & Moaipilled.

[Anonymous No.6724858]

>>6724794
Only autistics care about this.

[Anonymous No.6724903]

For me, it's gotta be counterstopping Mars Matrix, the ultimate scoretranny achievement.

[Anonymous No.6724969]

>>6724256
I feel like these snide remarks are aimed at me for some reason. By someone who got filtered by shmups.

[Anonymous No.6724995]

Be honest, how many of you are ex-Touwhores who weren't even alive during the arcade's heyday.

[Anonymous No.6725020]

>>6724969
Get a job, son. There's still time for you to shed loserdom.

[Anonymous No.6725625]

>>6724721
Better to close up shop with dignity after you release your magnum opus than have to resort to subsisting on bottled loli piss sales like Cave.

[Anonymous No.6726634]

and FUCK larsa

[Anonymous No.6726646]

>>6725625
Hey bro, what if the loli consents

[Anonymous No.6726647]

>>6724995
I'm an ex-touwhore, you realize the series peaked in like 2007. We're old as shit, man.

[Anonymous No.6726801]

GOOD MORNING FELLOW STG FANS! What danmakus did you play today?

[Anonymous No.6726876]

>>6726801
Today I made the big decision to retire from shmups and pursue my true passion, JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.6727093]

>>6686520
nice, god machine

also not a shmup

[Anonymous No.6727108]

>>6721581
DDP has the highest skill ceiling so I wouldn't start with that. Maybe try original Donpach

[Anonymous No.6727129]

>Die once
>Do 1/10th as much damage. Power-ups suddenly disappear after first 2 stages
>Time to restart

[Anonymous No.6727190]

>>6727129
>Power-ups suddenly disappear after first 2 stages
what are you playing? a turd?

[Anonymous No.6727326]

>>6686234
>European
Habib, you will never ever be an European

[Anonymous No.6727352]

>>6721790
>ikaruga and treasure are bad
Ikeda stated that Ikaruga is a masterpiece and inspired him a lot.

[Anonymous No.6727392]

>>6717009
>Heard people saying it goes for $8000 or something
doesn't kayar play sdoj on a pcb? is he rich?

[Anonymous No.6727421]

>>6727352

[Anonymous No.6727442]

>>6726801
Is this a dude making a joke? There's no way someone can lack that much self-awareness.

[Anonymous No.6727445]

>>6727421

[Anonymous No.6727449]

>>6727445
ddp bros.......

[Anonymous No.6727470]

>>6727421
Imagine wasting 4 years worth of weekends on a arcade game.

[Anonymous No.6727501]

>>6727470
As opposed some shitty jarpigs?

[Anonymous No.6727504]

>>6727501
That's even worse

[Anonymous No.6727545]

>>6727504
quick, give me your best breeding strategy

[Anonymous No.6727580]

>>6727545
? ? ?

[Anonymous No.6727654]

>>6685028
>>6685029
>>6685045
>>6685047
>>6685049
>>6685059
>>6685081
>>6685089
>>6685119
>>6685176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cZ0JZzFf2w&t=1375s

[Anonymous No.6727664]

>>6686064
I had a giggle. Thanks mate.

[Anonymous No.6727673]

>>6691068
Now this is westcope!

[Anonymous No.6727868]

>>6727129
p47 aces?

[Anonymous No.6728814]

YOU MURDERERS!

[Anonymous No.6728889]

Shmups with a interesting plot?

[Anonymous No.6729080]

>>6718976
Yeah that guy is a cunt if you don't want to spend money on weapons just for him or died fighting him and have to restart with nothing. If you're shooting for survival, it's easier to just time him out. Get it down to just these 5 guys and don't shoot any more. The result is only the two on the front will be shooting their slow aimed shots at you for like a minute before they just fuck off. You can literally just fly around the perimeter of the screen while you wait, it's nice and brainless.

[Anonymous No.6729084]

sdfsdf

[Anonymous No.6729142]

[Ricardo No.6729201]

So somehow I can post again, I have no idea how. I'll take the opportunity to write a post, probably just this one as they'll get me anyway.

I hope that all the players that inhabit this and the previous /shmupg/ space that I've interacted with over time are doing OK. This place is quite harsh to shmups as we know, but if you ignore the jarpigs you'll have a better time.

Also a message to chum: please stop worrying, I have absolutely no intention of messing with you. I don't like seeing people seriously upset because of something I did so please move on.

AMA, if the you know who are asleep or something perhaps I'll have a bit of time.

[Anonymous No.6729214]

>>6729142
oops posted the wrong version

[Anonymous No.6729257]

>>6729201
Based jarpig slayer has returned.

[Anonymous No.6729274]

>>6729201
Chum is one seriously mentally ill fellow, he needs professional help. One time he freaked out because he thought I was stalking him in a random IRC channel kek.

[Ricardo No.6729298]

>>6729257
It's good to see that my message hasn't been forgotten.

>>6729274
It's legit sad to see, unfortunately instead of seeking help these people prefer to create a hugbox that only makes matters worse in the long run.

[Anonymous No.6729660]

>worlds records in ports don't count because they are harder and don't have as much slowdown
Why is this a thing?

[Anonymous No.6729704]

>>6729660
Autism and the JHA monopoly

[Anonymous No.6729708]

>>6729660
What does it mean for a record to "count"

[Anonymous No.6729898]

>>6724858
confirms that you only praised that game to pose

100% you don't even knww the core mechanics of the game, but I guess "only autistics care about this" too, huh?

fucking poser

[Anonymous No.6730060]

>>6729898
Seething scoretranny. I just play games to have fun.

[Anonymous No.6730165]

>>6730060
More like you play the game to posture online whilst remaining a total shitter, the scoring's the whole hook of Mars Matrix

[Anonymous No.6730185]

>points go up! points go up! omg yaaasss!!

[Anonymous No.6730203]

Non-player mad

[Anonymous No.6730226]

>>6730165
>the scoring's the whole hook of Mars Matrix
it's a big part of it but the score system is a by-product of using its central mechanic well, which is the real draw of the takumi games

if reflectin' bullets didn't feel so great in Giga Wing it wouldn't nearly be fun to score; and the game would only attract the "I'm so happy!!!" try-hard score-chasers

[Anonymous No.6730270]

>>6730226
Yeah, obviously. That's the whole point of the vast majority of scoring systems. The games give the players fun central mechanics and encourage players to effectively use them for bigger scores. What you said works both ways too, without score Mars Matrix' and Giga Wing's reflect mechanics wouldn't be as fun because you'd just use them to save your ass in a pinch, instead of to generate cubes or medals.

[Anonymous No.6730318]

Best '80s shmup dev:
>__________
Best early '90s shmup dev:
>__________
Best late '90s shmup dev:
>__________

[Anonymous No.6730328]

>>6730318
toaplan
nmk
psikyo

[Ricardo No.6730343]

>>6730328
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

[Anonymous No.6730363]

>>6730328
based

[Anonymous No.6730550]

>>6729214
Dangerously based.

[Anonymous No.6730717]

>NMK
"Loved" by hipsters, yet the scoreboards are barren. The go-to choice for posers.

[Anonymous No.6730826]

give me the tl;dr on SynthRicrado

[Ricardo No.6730854]

>>6730717
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/629380701
Now post your best shmup score, big boy.

(That being said, you're generally right; it's just a byproduct of the poser-infested shmups community in general).

[Anonymous No.6731102]

>>6730826
Makes trannies and secondaries seethe by posting about shmups.

[Anonymous No.6731105]

Anyone know of any shmups with a win32 interface?

[Ricardo No.6731125]

[Anonymous No.6731236]

>>6685028
Pure effort and talent, I guess. It is nice discovering these obscure doujin games that are well made.

>>6686062
>>6686071
Nice! Thanks for the great suggestions.

>>6685257
I don't think that time has much of a bearing on appreciation. I enjoy both the measured pace of old shooting games and the more modern bullet hell styles. The three you like there are some great games.

[Anonymous No.6731743]

>>6731236
More money than sense

[Anonymous No.6731803]

>>6730717
>muh jaimers hasn't cleared any of their games, so that must mean they're for hipster poseurs

[Ricardo No.6732151]

Next Thread: >>6732143

[Anonymous No.6732515]

Gentlemen, it's time we return to /vg/. Shmupg will ride again.

[Anonymous No.6732519]

>>6732515
It's about time. Fuck this jarpig'd cesspit.

[Anonymous No.6732584]

>>6732519
what jarpgs? they've all gone to /vrpg/

>>6732515
please go and enjoy the bullet hell waifu posting

[Anonymous No.6732605]

>>6732584
Jarpig isn't just JRPGs, it's a state of mind. If you don't have an active interest in arcade-y games and skill-based gaming in general, you're basically a jarpig.

[Anonymous No.6732624]

>>6732605
> If you don't have an active interest in arcade-y games and skill-based gaming in general, you're basically a jarpig.
holy shit he's serious
what a useless distinction to make while worrying about people's preferences lol

[Anonymous No.6732716]

>>6685687
literally underrated comment

[Anonymous No.6732816]

>>6730060
you can't even power up your ship in that game if you don't score

bet you credit feed like a moron while keeping your brain off

might as well watch a movie, dumbass

[Anonymous No.6732838]

seriously, why do people keep repeating inane shit like "scoring isn't fun". it's by far the most fun thing in shmups. not talking about going for super high level crazy WR-tier scoring of course but exploring game systems and pushing your limits is always fun.

oh well it's not like I care, you secondaries can suck a rat's ass. fuck non players, fuck posers.

[Anonymous No.6732847]

also lmao @ that poser retardo thread with his shitty thread that got nuked

[Anonymous No.6733314]

>>6685028
never played this but the music is really good

[Anonymous No.6733670]

>>6732847
sup kz still playing bannerlord or are you working on some 'hilarious' ketsui memes to force during gdq

>let's see some 5s in the chat my homeys!
>you just got empty-lock'd! XD
>seeeal! x3