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6671625 No.6671625 [Reply] [Original]

znes is the pinnacle of emulation. there is literally nothing that has surpassed it as a software project. not to mention that its the only one with SOUL

>> No.6671629

>>6671625
It does indeed have soul and was great for it's time however they say it gets exploited by bad roms.

>> No.6671636

>>6671625
I like the snow effect

>> No.6671639

>>6671625
That ui is garbage. Always preferred the clean windows interface of snes9x

>> No.6671640

>>6671639
explain from a design standpoint why it's "garbage" and then post some of your own designs so we can see what real design looks like.

>> No.6671648

>>6671639
>I hate the retro look of the user interface
Ergo you don't like retro and should probably not the board fag.

>> No.6671650

>>6671640
Its ugly as fuckin sin. The clean default windows ui of 9x is far superior and doesnt look like shit in windowed mode either. Searching through the rom list isnt as easy as the windows ui either doesnt have the search capability.

>> No.6671653

>>6671648
Fuck off retard I hated it back in the day too and always preferred the windows ui of 9x cause it matched everything else on the pc. Just cause i dont like your little faggot emulator doesnt mean a thing fucking retard

>> No.6671659

>>6671650
You didn't listen to what I asked you. Opinion discarded.

>> No.6671662

>>6671625
>znes
doesn't exist

>> No.6671664

>>6671625
it's fantastic and still remember it fondly. It's UI somewhat lives on on RetroArch's rgui option.

>> No.6671667

>>6671659
Its ugly as fuckin sin that's from a design stand point aesthetics are part of design retard

>> No.6671669

>>6671667
you don't know dick about design lol

>> No.6671680

>>6671669
Obviously you dont because you like that purple and grey monstrosity

>> No.6671689
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6671689

for me its mednafen

>> No.6671690

>>6671625
ZSNES has presentation only second to Mekaw.

I don't use it anymore but it's some of the best aesthetic I've seen.

>> No.6671691

>>6671680
the menu design (what you SHOULD be talking about) is fine and the textures/colors are immaterial to whether the design of the emulator works or not.

>> No.6671692

>>6671653
>>eeeewww this os looks old time to upgrade my phone teheee
>such yesterday's fashion

Okay. Stay if you want but I'm still going to wreck your shit every time you make me look down upon your posts.

>> No.6671695

>>6671664
Zoomerarch is bloated and not user friendly and from what I saw of it's UI it reeked of 5+ gen console ui tier a thing.

>> No.6671696

>>6671692
Except i still use the windows 98 style theme with the grey task bar and snes 9x used that same theme even back in the day.
>>6671691
Yeah I said you cant search for roms like you can with the windows gui you just chose to ignore that cause you're a fuckin retard

>> No.6671701

>>6671696
And you chose to ignore me asking you to post your own design work lmao

>> No.6671713
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6671713

>>6671680
The snes was purple and grey you know you absolute retard.

>>6671696
I like classic windows too but that went the way of the dodo bird and you must cope with linux now. Unless you use win7 or win10 and went and fucked around with the registry. Or something.

>> No.6671717

>>6671625
>he uses the snow version

>> No.6671729
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6671729

dangerously soulful

>> No.6671735

>>6671625
I want to go back to 2004, bros.

>> No.6671748 [DELETED] 

>>6671689
>>6671625
Pinnacle literally tranny.

>> No.6671749

>>6671735
I want to go back to 1904, brethren.

>> No.6671758

>>6671748
you have a problem sir

>>6671749
Me too, not him, but me too. Since post early 20th century we've had nothing but a temperance war wherein we've traded freedoms for safety around the world.

>> No.6671779

Shit software but aesthetic as fuck.

>> No.6671787

>>6671701
>you need to be a chef to say that cake tastes like shit
Fuck off absolute retard

>> No.6671794

>>6671713
Windows 7 includes a classic grey windows theme no hacks required. The only shitty part is the new programs sometimes just use the default ugly as shit aero borders

>> No.6671817

>>6671794
It's theme isn't retro tier. There are no black borders around things and such. I use it myself but it is utter garbage and winxp's looked win9x tier but this shit is a cheap imitation of it. Looks far to crisp.

>> No.6671824

>>6671787
>food analogy
You don't eat with your eyes, retard. Design is far more nuanced than anyone who doesn't participate can realize.

>> No.6671831

>>6671695
99% of modern emulation is bloated shit.

>> No.6671838
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6671838

>>6671831
99% of modern software isn't worth my time by default faggot.

Why do you think I sit around on the retro board of a fucking site made in 03?

>>6671794
image related

>> No.6671841

I like the retro UI, it reminds of this old 90s NES emu, NESticle. But what actual advantages does it have?

Can it patch ROMs?

>> No.6671857

>>6671824
>you dont eat with your eyes
lol and you dont know anything about food

>> No.6671862

>>6671857
we aren't talking about food, we're talking about design. And sure, anyone can say they don't like something, but hardly anyone but a chef will be able to tell you why something is good, or what it achieved. Either way, you're free to share your opinion but you can't get all flustered when people call you a retard for doing it.

>> No.6671869

>>6671640
Pixel UI is always stunted and inferior in actual use. It's form over substance when you're on any resolution above 240p, uncomfortable as fuck.

>> No.6671885

>>6671869
alright now post some of your own designs

>> No.6671886

>>6671824
Okay tell me why your purple mess is superior to this. Cause to me they look the same except one uses an ugly font and color scheme. They both use a drop down menu bar except one doesnt use ugly fuckin colors.

>> No.6671891

>>6671886
When did I say it was superior? I asked you to explain why it was bad design, and you said you didn't like it. I asked you to supply your own designs to show your own taste, and you refused. What are you even hung up on at this point?

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6671906

>>6671891
It's bad design because the colors are ugly, as I said before aesthetics are part of design as far as function goes it gets 8/10 because it doesnt have a search option like windows file explorer does, but as far as aesthetics it gets a 0 so its terrible design. Cry more about it

>> No.6671908

>>6671906
>the colors are ugly
explain how they're ugly then

>> No.6671916

>>6671908
They dont look appealing to me. Grey purple blue and pink look like shit together, they dont compliment each other, and they dont contrast the best either hence why it has to use that ugly bright pink

>> No.6671919
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6671919

Imagine getting so triggered by a random person's hot opinion on a piece of software that was written before you were born that you go on a shitposting spree, desperately trying to bait them into saying anything just objective enough that you can argue against it.

>> No.6671920

>>6671916
the only valid part of this post is mentioning the contrast issues.

>> No.6671923

>>6671625
>Only two buttons to switch savestates and a button to save and a button to load
>As opposed to easy to remember button combos like 1, ctrl+1, f1, or ctrl+f1
>Uses outdated and cumbersome file explorer

>> No.6671924

>>6671919
imagine giving play by play of an argument on a tibetan dirt farming board

>> No.6671926

>>6671920
They're not complimentary either my nigga

>> No.6671928

>>6671924
Don't have to imagine it, I just did. You're not one of the sad little faggots having the argument, are you?

>> No.6671929

>>6671926
you don't even know what complimentary means lmao
>>6671928
right, you sure did, but was just giving play by play on your play by play

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6671931

>>6671929
Oh, so you are one of the sad little faggots having the argument. Guess you don't have to imagine that, either.

>> No.6671934

>>6671931
Anon please, I'm not sad or a faggot. Do you want to argue with me to? is that it?

>> No.6671937
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6671937

If the UI doesn't have dripping blood I'm not interested

>> No.6671940

>>6671934
Nope, just showed up to make sure you understood you were a sad little faggot arguing over pointless shit on the internet.
>this ui is poopoo
>REEEEEEEEE
>no for reel is bad bruh
>NOOOOOO POAST UR DEESIGNS
Fucking kek.
Anyway, I'll leave you to it, kiddo. Don't want to take away from any more of your internet slapfight time.

>> No.6671941

>>6671931
At least he posted for a reason dumb ass triple nigger.

>>Hurr arguing is pathetic!

Go physically assault people back in Africa then. No wonder you use Donkey Kong as a reaction image you tremendously simple simian.

>>6671934
Apes can't argue anon.

>>6671937
That's just autistic as sega has always been autistic.

>> No.6671942

>>6671625
true soul

>> No.6671943

>>6671940
if you actually had designs to post, i bet you would've posted them. You seem like that kind of guy.
>>6671941
>sega has always been autistic
alright that's based, I forgive you for the whole argument

>> No.6671953

>>6671937
SOUL

>> No.6672080

>>6671669
out of curiosity would you happen to be the person that doesn't think 'overdesigned' is a real word

>> No.6672082

>>6672080
I'm not, but are you telling me you actually use the word 'overdesigned' to describe things? lol

>> No.6672092

>>6672082
I thought I'd ask because you both use the word 'design' in almost every post and refuse to elaborate on your positions. It's quite a coincidence

>> No.6672095

>>6672092
Coincidences are usually just that anon.

>> No.6672104

Zsnes was shit cause it used a dos era ui in the peak comfy and best windows ui era which is why 9x is king

>> No.6672215

>>6672104
cringe

>> No.6672316

Only Brazilians still use this piece of shit.

>> No.6672323

>>6672316
Proudly so.

>> No.6672326

>>6672323
provinciano scum

>> No.6672406

>>6672316
You end up like Brazil soon enough, don't worry.

>> No.6672414

>>6671943
I wasn't any of the posters though anon.

I was: >>6671838 >>6671713 >>6671692 >>6671648 defending the color schemes and bashing new windows 'classic' and such though.

Then I jumped in and gave two-cents on the other posters arguing. So >>6671941 also randomly to tell off the faggot that retardedly argues about arguing.

>> No.6672415

>>6672414
well i still forgive you

>> No.6672424

>can't run Top Gear 3000
It's shit, but was good shit at that time.

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6672426

>>6672424
>playing top gear 3000

>> No.6672437

>>6672424
The SNES ports suck ass anyway

>> No.6672448

>>6672426
3000 > 2

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6672449

>>6672448
thanks for the laughs anon

>> No.6673321
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6673321

>>6671625
To date, NO EMULATOR is as efficiently built as ZSNES, as it is the only emulator to be coded in such a low, near-boilerplate language. To this day It literally runs better than any other SNES emulator, even ones that are updated as late as 2020, only now it is a moot point, since even something coded like shit will run just fine on new systems, since they easily take up the slack.

>> No.6673507

>>6671625
Sure, it had soul.
Today, I'd use bsnes.
Accuracy > Soul, when it comes to emulation.

>> No.6673509

>>6673321
Who cares about efficiency? My computer has 64GB of RAM, CPU is blazing fast. We don't need to optimize emulators for toasters, we can actually shoot for perfectly playable accuracy now.

>> No.6673620

>>6671669
you are the most annoying faggot ever please end it all.

>> No.6673639

>>6671695
>one unified frontend is more bloated than using 15 different individual emulators
Right

>> No.6673708

>>6671625
this is why I can't take nostalgiafags seriously

>> No.6673795

>>6671625
It's pretty neat looking, the games looked pretty good with scanlines on. Can it hack graphics live like Nesticle, though?

>> No.6674258

>>6673639
It is.

And individual emulators are easier to keep track of their dependencies

>> No.6674260

>>6673639
>one bloated frontend is more bloated than using 15 different unbloated emulators
yes

>> No.6674293

>>6673509
This.

Just stop using shitty optiplexes and chinese android crap, and you'll have a way better experience.

>> No.6675203
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6675203

>tfw grew up with real snes but still nostalgic for emulators
ZSNES = soul
I remember going to my cousin's house with a bunch of floppies with ZSNES and roms
2 people playing on the same keyboard
Those menu graphics

>> No.6675224

I don't even know why they made that splash when someone coded a high-res mode 7 plugin for a new emulator, ZSNES has had that for two decades

>> No.6675946

>>6671625
>can't play windowed fullscreen
hard pass

>> No.6676713

>>6671625
>/vr/ would rather discuss shit emulators and get nostalgic for them instead of discussing GBA

the absolute state of this board

>> No.6676736

>>6675946
14 year old me not understanding why the window kept getting smaller and smaller over the years and why the new version with resolution options didn't offer full screen on all of them

>> No.6676963

>>6676713
>gba fag is back
Give it a rest mate, go to /vg/ to discuss gba

>> No.6677143

>>6673321
It runs fast because it's not accurate

HLE are always great in times when we cannot run LLE well enough yet. HLE serves a purpose when LLE is not feasibly usable. Here's a brief list of documented Zsnes specific issues

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/ZSNES

Same with any other emulator, like comparing ePSXe and Mednafen PSX

>> No.6677189

>>6671625
Back in the late 90's I downloaded Nesticle onto one of the computers at my high school's computer lab. I'd spend study halls there playing Zelda and Punch Out.

Later I brought in You Don't Know Jack and would play the computer teacher at it. During one intense game I buzzed in before him and he impulsively yelled out "SHIT", followed by 10 second awkward silence. Good times.

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6677247

>>6671625
I got so many viruses from bad roms. This UI was like the light people see before they die for my computer.

>> No.6677274

>>6671824
>You don't eat with your eyes, retard.
Actually you do, the aesthetics of your meal directly contributes to how you perceive the taste and enjoyment of the food. A good looking meal is the foreplay of eating. But of course you're just going to deny this for the sake of your own argument

>> No.6677302

>>6677274
I was talking to him, not the general “You”

>> No.6677315

>>6677302
just
pretending
to
be
retarded

>> No.6677317

>>6677315
Okay then anon, carry on with your game of pretend I guess

>> No.6677320

>>6677247
Honestly, how? I downloaded so many roms and cracked games throughout the 90s and 2000s and literally never got hit by any malware

>> No.6677325

>>6677320
You must have a very acute intellect. I’m gonna call you “no malware” anon from now on.

>> No.6677327

>>6677317
bro I dont even know what you're talking about
do you think this board is just one other guy and you?

>> No.6677337

>>6677327
What? He said he was pretending to be retarded? Your post doesn’t follow from that exchange at all, you maniac.

>> No.6677362

>>6672316
Not anymore

>> No.6677437

>>6677320
coolroms.com

thank me later...

>> No.6677449

>>6677320
If you use zsnes plus untrusted rom sites that are not famous then you get exploited via the emulator.

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6677482

>>6671625
how come no one bothered to update this? Sure it can still run on Windows10 via Compatibility Mode, but at times it freezes and I have to restart the PC.

Also the fact that some games don't run well on the ZSNES for whatever the reason. Either it's a bad rom or just has issues. Pic related - Aeon Genesis's Tactics Ogre when trying to view characters.

>> No.6677939

>>6677482
>Either it's a bad rom or just has issues
Mate ZSNES is terrible by today’s standards, if you’re playing for nostalgic reasons go ahead just don’t go expecting it to run games well

>> No.6678672

>>6671625
It was pretty comfy.

>> No.6678713

>>6677939
got a better emulator then? preferably one that can do save slots, able to run cheat codes (and make ones yourself), and a button that speeds up the game.

>> No.6678714

Although I use Snes9x most of the time, I still keep Zsnes around because some ROM hacks don't run on anything else.

>> No.6678721

>>6677482
I remember having issues playing Mega Man X or X2, it wouldn't show what's going on underwater. Turns out there's some kind of layers thing you gotta manually turn on or off to display some stuff.

>> No.6678986

>>6678713
anything current can do all that

>> No.6678994

>>6678721
that could have something to do with removing sprite limit, I know there's some games need a sprite limit to display certain layers

>> No.6679250

>>6671625
cringe

>>6671639
Based

>> No.6679282

>>6672104
Based

>>6672215
cringe

>> No.6679290

>>6673321
It runs like shit and sounds like shit.
It's a garbage hackjob you subhuman shitskin poorfag.

>> No.6679304

>>6673321
muy basado

>> No.6679310

>>6679304
>replying to his own post
subhuman brazilian

>> No.6679346

>>6671639
the ui is the best part
i'm guilty of running zsnes for a while even when i didn't need to anymore just so i could use it's comfy ui

>> No.6679350

>>6679310
Not him and not Brazilian.

>> No.6679367

>>6677482
zsnes is a very hacky, performance-oriented emulator written in assembly
it's NOT ACCURATE AT ALL and should not be used today for any purpose (except rom hacks that only work with it)
the only reason it was ever used was for slow computers, and i'm talking slow by late 90's standards
nobody is going to update it, because we already have much better emulators

>> No.6679379

>>6678713
they all do that, snes9x is the well rounded go-to snes emulator today (and for the last 20 years, where have you been)
chances are anything you want to run will run fine in snes9x, if you're after something more accurate, there's bsnes

>> No.6679887

>>6671625
Can't run ActRaiser 2 and DKC2 barrels are bugged.

>> No.6680889

>>6676963
It's more than one faggot, asshole.

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6682676

>>6671689
Based,
What are the best options for CRT filters?

>> No.6682687

>>6671713
>purple
kill yourself asap

>> No.6682717

>>6682676
i dont know i dont use any filter options