Retro computers

[Anonymous No.6659428]

Anybody here have any systems they use for MS-DOS/Win9x games? PPC or earlier Macs are pretty cool as well, if that's your scene.
This is a system that I've kind of put on hold for the time being. It has an ATX Socket 7 board with a Pentium MMX 233. In the picture it's only running an S3 Virge and ESS AudioDrive, but I've added a Voodoo 1 and Dreamblaster S2 since then. I still only have the 64mb of EDO RAM in there right now, but since it supports SDRAM as well, I may swap that out later.

[Anonymous No.6659791]

I used to have an apple quadra 950 I got cheap at a flea market, but I sold it away after restoring it. I initially wanted to use it to play retro mac games, but it was big, heavy and upgrades like sd/flash card readers were expensive because of the proprietary ports it used.

[Anonymous No.6659846]

I'm assembling a system right now but after the motherboard arrives, I'll probably have to wait on ordering other parts like retro GPUs and sound cards until my new job begins.

Luckily I do have things I can use to test it with that should be compatible so I can at least establish if it's a running system or not.

[Anonymous No.6659885]

>>6659791
It's a nice looking machine, but I can definitely see how working with it could be a pain, especially since it uses SCSI rather than IDE. Were the games that you wanted to play only 68k compatible, or would they run on a PPC as well? Nice thing with the PPC Macs is that a lot of the older stuff will still run, as long as you're on OS9 or lower.
I only have an iMac G3 myself, with a 700mhz CPU. Nice little machine, and there's a lot of cool games on the Machintosh Garden that I check out occasionally. It chugs with some more demanding games, but since I have PCs for those anyway, I don't mind so much, but unfortunately the built-in speakers blew after cranking System Shock up too high.

>>6659846
What kind of motherboard, anon? Any cards you're looking for specifically?

[Anonymous No.6659892]

>>6659885
It's an ASUS P2B and it already has a CPU and RAM on it.

Cards-wise...I kind of want a Ti 4200 for general purpose stuff and a Voodoo3 for things that the Ti 4200 isn't that great at handling. For audio I'm not sure yet. I would like something that does MIDI well but beyond that I haven't made any determinations. Right now the card going in to construct a working test system will be the Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS.

[Anonymous No.6659921]

>>6659892
Can't really go wrong with a 440BX chipset, and ASUS is typically a great board manufacturer. What CPU came with it?
I'd recommend either a Voodoo 1 or 2 if you're planning on using a 4200 Ti as well. Won't really run into any conflicts that way, since those cards are meant to run alongside another card to begin with. SLI Voodoo 2s will even match a V3 when it comes to raw horsepower.
Are you looking for DOS support, or just something that does MIDI well and sounds good under Win98? The Aureal Vortex (or even better, Vortex 2) is really nice for later 9x games, and has a Wavetable header if you want better MIDI capabilities (the Dreamblasters are really the only readily available MIDI daughterboards now, but they sound nice, and if you don't mind shelling out a lot, you can get a Yamaha or Roland daughtherboard as well). The header should even work under DOS, and the Sound Blaster emulation is adequate, even if the OPL synth sounds quite ugly on it.

[Anonymous No.6659963]

>>6659921
DOS support will be secondary but nice to have at some point. For now this machine is mostly designed to get around the black hole of playing old games that comes with using DOS-based Windows. No virtualized solution I've been able to conceive really fits this bill. NT-kernel era Windows does support 3D acceleration in VMWare Workstation Player but not 9x and below. DOSbox works for DOS stuff but running Windows on top of it is at best a dicey affair (and I still don't know if it has 3D acceleration).

[Anonymous No.6660017]

>>6659963
If DOS support isn't really on your mind, then that Audigy2 might actually work very well for you. It's more of an XP card, but it is one of the highest quality soundcards you can run on Win98. It can also load up different soundfonts, so it's not a bad option for MIDI either, you'll just want to have plenty of RAM in your system if you wanna go that route. For games that only support EAX, it's also just a way superior option, but if you're playing games with A3D 2.0, then you might wanna consider an Aureal Vortex 2, if you can get one cheap at least. Don't bother with a Vortex 1, since you already have that Audigy2. An Audigy2 and Vortex 2 on the same machine would be excellent. It's usually not too much of a pain, can just disable the one you don't currently want to use in the device manager.

PCem is an option. It's not virtualization though, actually is an emulator. Can emulate a wide variety of machines, but only goes up to Socket 7 systems, so the best you can do is a Pentium MMX 300, which is technically a laptop CPU, but it works with the emulated chipset, and since they're socketed in real life, might actually work on a real board, just isn't something I've looked into. For video cards, it'll do an S3 Virge with an SLI Voodoo 2 setup.
It's a nice option to have, but real hardware is still better, and you'll need at least a 6th Generation i7 for it to run smoothly with an MMX 233 anyway.

[Anonymous No.6660072]

>>6659428
Everyone except dosbox emubabies does. Both of us.

[Anonymous No.6660132]

>>6660072
DOSBox is pretty nice for the majority of games I've tested with it, but it's definitely "off" for some later stuff, like BUILD engine, or something like Tomb Raider, MechWarrior 2, or Carmageddon (though in the case of those last 3, that has more to do with playing on either software rendering, or the so-so quality of Voodoo support on DOSBox forks)
DOS support is a big reason why I put together that particular system in the OP. It's excellent for the late releases, works great with Windows, has clean output thanks to the Diamond S3 Virge (plus great compatibility), and if I wanna play older, speed sensitive titles, I can swap out the CPU with something slower and turn off the caches.

It's not my primary 9x rig, but that one is tailored more towards late 90's/early 2000's stuff anyway.

[Anonymous No.6660337]

>>6659428
Were four PCI slots and four ISA slots common back then? Do they even fit on a regular ATX board?

Honest question, something like 6 total is the max I remember seeing.

[Anonymous No.6660396]

>>6660337
The fourth PCI slot and the first ISA slot are in a shared bracket so you can only have one or the other.

[Anonymous No.6660472]

I collect old workstations(SUN, SPARC, DEC, PC, SGI, some Apple machines) do these count as retro stuff?

[Anonymous No.6660483]

>>6660472
Well this is retro gaming so you would probably need to be able to use them for an entertainment purpose.

[Anonymous No.6660685]

>>6660472
I'd call them retro for sure, and also very neat. Are there any games or other kinds of software that you use on them, though?

[Anonymous No.6660980]

>>6660132
I don't even waste my time with dosbox for gaming. It's ok for running old tools but not much else. If you're not living in a shoe box in your parent's basement you need AGP. Any common 1 or 3 ISA board will do.

[Anonymous No.6661130]

>>6660980
I have other systems for games that would really take advantage of an AGP card, but for this particular system, I'm aiming for later DOS and early Win9x titles, so I think the S3 Virge and Voodoo 1 works out nicely here.
I have a nice Slot 1 440BX board by MSI that I'm currently running a Voodoo Banshee and Pentium II 350mhz in, though I may swap that for a Pentium III. I also have a Dell Dimension 4100 with a 1ghz Pentium III and GeForce 4 MX 440, which I thought would be a good match with the system since it performs similarly to the GeForce 2 Ti.
There's also my Athlon XP system, which is obviously geared more towards Windows XP, since it has an Athlon XP 2400+ and GeForce 4200 Ti, but I use it for Windows 98, since you'll almost never run into performance drops while playing 9x games. The board is also really nice, since it has a CPU 4pin connector, and even has the option to solder an ISA slot to the board.

[Anonymous No.6661636]

>>6659892
According to Phil's Computer Lab, Geforce2s are better for Win98 gaming due to better driver support. You just don't get things like anti-aliasing support and other shiny features with it.

https://youtu.be/HRhm4aGNI3o

[Anonymous No.6661683]

>>6660685
Some. Mostly ports of PC titles, not that much official stuff.

[Anonymous No.6661685]

>>6661683
Stuff like Doom and Sim City, I assume?

[Anonymous No.6661697]

>>6661683
PS: primarily 2D and 3D graphics software used in game and VFX studios, video editing software, CAD stuff...that sort of thing. It's all rather difficult to come by these days.

[Anonymous No.6661707]

>>6661685
Yeah, I have that infamous SGI Doom port. It's not that special, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.6661723]

Is there any point in building an XP machine?

[Anonymous No.6661793]

>>6661723
If you have to ask you don't understand it

[Anonymous No.6661795]

>>6661723
why is your pc shopped? just to make it 16:9? it looks fucking silly

[Anonymous No.6661838]

>>6661723
XP games are not retro.

[Anonymous No.6661970]

>>6661723
Max compatibility with XP era games mainly. Sure, a lot of the time they'll even run out of the box on a newer system, or if they don't, there will usually be a patch or some other kind of workaround, but a period appropriate system should just run it without much fuss.
Unless you're really an enthusiast, you're probably better off not bothering, though.

[Anonymous No.6662060]

I have a dual pentium 3 system but I wanted to use a 94-99 era operating system like windows nt on it that can play games and take advantage of the dual cpu's.

I was thinking of exploring getting directx 8 to install on it. I mean it installs on windows 95, why couldn't it install on windows nt?

[Anonymous No.6662138]

Too expensive, too noisy, the PSU gets hot as hell but that old electronics smell and cozy gaming, oh yeah.
AMD is the cheapest and easiest route to get your feet wet.

[Anonymous No.6662150]

>>6662060
>that can play games and take advantage of the dual cpu's
It won't, even under NT(which is a poor choice for games btw). No use for a (physical) CPU if the applications isn't specifically designed to use it.

This is mostly beneficial for 3D tools or video editing software.

[Anonymous No.6662178]

>>6662138
>too expensive
most stuff costs next to nothing unless it's rare hardware or really old

>too noisy
the EVO W8000 next to me is quieter than my 2020 gaming PC

>PSU gets hot
cheap PSUs did that, yes.

>AMD
no thanks. not then, not now.

[Anonymous No.6662183]

>>6662060
Not too familiar with dual CPU boards. I knew they existed, but never looked into how they operate. Do you get double the speed out of them, or is it more like an SLI setup?
Prior to Windows 2000, versions of Windows built on the NT kernal weren't really meant for regular desktop use, and even then, it wasn't until XP where the NT kernal really took off for home users.
If you really want to play around with NT 4.0, best you can do is DirectX 5.0 (or possibly 6.0?) and OpenGL.

[Anonymous No.6662187]

>>6662150
*correction: second physical CPU

[Anonymous No.6662238]

>>6662183
There is some performance lost in the overhead and it depends greatly on the application(which has to be designed for multithreading). I get almost double performance when rending on two CPUs in 3D Studio Max 2.5, but doesn't scale linearly if CPU #3 and #4 are used(on a Quad P3 Intel Supermicro board)

[Anonymous No.6662247]

>>6662183
There is some performance lost in the overhead and it depends greatly on the application(which has to be designed for multithreading). I get almost double performance when rendering on two CPUs in 3D Studio Max 2.5, but it doesn't scale linearly if CPU #3 and #4 are used(on a Quad P3 Intel Supermicro board)

[Anonymous No.6662268]

>>6662247
So something that isn't really useful for your average user or gamer. Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.6662376]

>>6659428
440BX here with a voodoo3, scc-1 and sw60xg. It's running freedos 90% of the time but I got some windows stuff on there too.

[Anonymous No.6662419]

>>6662376
>scc-1 and sw60xg
Damn, good shit, anon. They always sounded way more convenient than a standalone MIDI module.

[Anonymous No.6662629]

>>6661723
there's some fun hardware that's unsupported after xp/vista32. gameport force feedback controllers, plus any controller that used a proprietary digital mode on the gameport. some weird serial-port shit like the spaceorb360 or those early wacom tablets the size of tabletops only have driver support up to xp. aureal's a3d sound hardware is pretty cool. shutterglasses, hmd's and autostereoscopic screens have broad compatibility under xp, with nvidia's pre-wddm drivers. simple driver injection gets you stereo 3d in pretty much every directx9 game. tell those oculus kids to get off your damn lawn!

[Anonymous No.6663096]

>>6662183
I'm not really familiar with it either. Full specs are-
Supermicro board
Dual slot 1 850mhz P3's
Maybe a gig of sdram
Geforce 2 Ultra
Funky 90's case

Some guy was tossing it and I snagged it. Additionally I have a single stick of 512MB of IBM sdram, voodoo 3 2000 (from my old pc), and a Creative AWE64 ISA sound card to play with. The supermicro motherboard has the pins for an ISA card but no slot soldered in. I'd add an ISA slot on it but there's literally nowhere to buy them economically - not on ebay or aliexpress.

[Anonymous No.6663130]

>>6663096
Do you have to run two CPUs, or is it fine with just one running? That's a nice graphics card as well, might wanna run that instead of the Voodoo 3, unless you want Glide support.
Unless you wanna spend out the ass for a single slot, the only real way to get one is by de-soldering it from a dead board.

[Anonymous No.6663180]

Asus P3B-F with a PIII 866mhz and 448MB ram because I can.
A geforce 256 is my video card of choice, but I also have an ati all-in-wonder 128 I could replace it with if I need to capture video or something.
Dual sound cards so I have maximum compatibility, a sound blaster 16 (ct2290 I think) for dos and a sound blaster pci 128 for windows and midi on dos (the wavetable synth is actually great).

[Anonymous No.6663209]

>>6663130
Ideally I'd like for both cpu's to be used. If anything it make the OS more snappy. Pretty sure I could run WIndows 98 on it with only one cpu used. Don't think it'd utilize all that ram though.

[Anonymous No.6663232]

>>6663209
One of the patches in the unofficial Service Pack for 98SE lets you use something like a gig of RAM, but there's no real reason to use that much on 98.
>>6663180
Sounds like a pretty nice build. any particular reason for the PCI 128 though? Was that just what you had on hand?

[Anonymous No.6664002]

>>6661130
>later DOS and early Win9x
Casting your net to wide champ

[Anonymous No.6664171]

>>6663232
that card was always on this pc and is very good for windows stuff, it supports 3d audio so games can take advantage of that.
also as mentioned, it works well as a budget midi synth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkoWpvd1STc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j0_qiw3tj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvH-y-vG4gc

in dos mode the midi part of it works with every game I've tried, it complements well with the sb16 since you completely avoid the hanging note bug (not like I care too much, the ct2290 has the lesser version of the bug that rarely happens).

[Anonymous No.6665394]

Do Voodoo2s run hotter with higher clocked CPUs?

[Anonymous No.6665495]

>>6665394
shouldn't do. what makes you think that it would?

[Anonymous No.6665553]

>>6665495
transform and lighting is handled by the CPU. I'd imagine that the Voodoos run as fast as they can when paired with a fast CPU.

[Anonymous No.6666927]

>>6665394
Seems to have something to do with the FPS the card is pumping out, but of course with a faster CPU, you'll have higher results there. When V-Sync is enabled, the temps actually measure a little lower.

[Anonymous No.6667117]

>>6659428
I have a dedicated 486DX4-100 for my DOS purposes and I have been planning on building a J-Win98SE machine, but that had been put on hold due to the current pandemic. I would like to play around with Geoworks and Win3.0 again from my 386 days, so I have these Socket7 pieces like yours to mess around with once I can save up enough for the rest. I was going to go with the K6-III+, but for Wing Commander and Wing Commander 2, someone here suggested I use the MMX 166 instead. It looks like you have a cool case which accommodates the motherboard, what is it and how much do they go for?

[Anonymous No.6667176]

>>6667117
Think I was the one who suggested that.
Couldn't tell you what kind of case it is, other than it being an ATX beige box. I've had it for over 20 years now. I specifically wanted an ATX board since I have several old ATX cases sitting around. The board you have there is an AT style, but it looks like it can use an ATX PSU at least?

[Anonymous No.6667240]

>>6667117
your baby-AT motherboard will fit in a "modern" ATX case, and already has the connector for an ATX power supply.
for a really clean install, get a supermicro blank I/O shield and cut out just the keyboard hole, like the leftmost one in pic related.

[Anonymous No.6667351]

>>6667176
Yeah, it is small. Larger than mATX but smaller than ATX. It still uses 6 expansion slots. I am going to try to get a modern power supply for longevity reasons, and I am not comfortable opening up old power supplies to clean. The power cable only has 20 pins instead of the usual 24, and there doesn't seem to be any room for the slack extra 4 pins, so maybe AT would be better for the power, which I think there are adapters.

>>6667240
As soon as this pandemic clears, I plan on ordering some of those measurement calipers and those conical drill bits from China so I could perform such an operation to a blank IO shield. I look forward to using Space Invader switches again, since even my 486 machine has PS/2, but this is my only 5-pin AT keyboard. So much to save for.

[Anonymous No.6667367]

>>6667351
Look for a PSU that lets you detach the extra 4pins from the main 20pins, like a Seasonic S12II or S12III.

[Anonymous No.6667419]

>>6659428
I have more systems than what I have room for. I think the last project I bought was two G3 Desktop Macs to play around with that generation since I completely skipped on that.

Before that I got a Tandy1000HX and got a XT-IDE/Memory/Mouse Card for it. Plays Space Quest III like a champ. Not enough room to have that set up with my CGI Monitor yet.

Before that I bought a couple 486 machines. Three that I can think of that stand out. A Gateway VLB 486 with a nice Video Card in it. A Compaq 486 with that really nice Tseng Chipset onboard. And a legit 486DX50 build that some family paid ten grand for back in the day with that popular soundcard before SoundBlaster was a thing.

Other than that I got a bunch of VooDoo 2 cards. P1/2/3 boards. Amd Athlon boards. Two Gravis Sound Cards. One good. One bad that needs a ton of work before it will ever function again. Some Jackass shorted the thing out before I got it.

I got my old Creative Geforce 256 DDR Annihilator Pro Card with its box. And many many PCI / AGP Video cards and PCI / ISA Sound Cards. Need to get back into building old systems.

[Anonymous No.6667492]

>>6667351
you can find a psu with a 20+4 pin arrangement, or put the 24 pin connector on the 20 pin socket and let the extra 4 hang off the side over the mounting screw. it's keyed so you can't put it in the wrong position, and the 4 pins aren't carrying data or being sensed so there's no consequences to letting them dangle.
AT and ps/2 keyboards are electrically compatible and the passive adaptor from big to small (or small to big) is only a dollar. (brotip: above your keyboard connector you have a ps/2 mouse header, there was never a standard set for the pinout of this connector, if you have a non-matching ps/2 bracket you can easily swap the pins in the black connector around. most optical mice from the previous decade can speak ps/2 through a passive green usb->ps/2 adaptor, which again is only about $1, if you don't already have one. ball mice can go rot in hell.)
conical drills are an excellent idea for thin sheet metal.

[Anonymous No.6667638]

>>6667419
Power Mac G3s? Beige ones, or the Blue & White ones? Either one of them seem like they'd be cool to have, I'd definitely like to pick one up some day. I'm even more interested in picking up a Power Mac G4 though, at least one that can support OS 9 natively.

Never looked into Tandys much, what's neat about that particular machine?

Ooh, that 486DX50 has an original AdLib card?

I'd love to have those Voodoo 2s, used to have one at one point, but a lot of my old computer stuff was tossed out at some point during the last 20 years. I've been lucky to find some of my old cards packed away in random boxes in the back of a closet. That's a shame about that Gravis UltraSound.

Might be able to make a little profit selling off some systems to the retro crowd on eBay or something, with all of those parts lying around.

[Anonymous No.6667912]

>>6667367
Thanks for the specific models. I don't think many manufacturers specify if that connector is detachable on the box. I believe power supplies are currently inflated in price due to shortages, so that is one part I am waiting on to stabilize. Another issue is that I think a lot of modern power supplies are designed to have the fan on top be an exhaust out the top, while the ones for these older ones had bottom fan intakes as they were potentially at the top of tower cases.


>>6667492
Mind blown! I thought I'd have to get some controller card to get a serial and/or PS/2 port and if pressed find some USB expansion for a mouse. I do remember serial ball mice, but I definitely would rather a sensor mouse. I was hoping the modern BenQ Zowie mouse will do since they claim to be "driverless", so maybe a generic USB to PS/2 will work for those. Thanks for the amazing tip!

[Anonymous No.6667965]

>>6667912
I have an S12II, and at least with that one it's fine if you have the fan on the top or bottom, and I'd assume the S12III is the same way.

[Anonymous No.6668182]

>>6667912
below the power connectors, next to your IDE and floppy headers, you already have a parallel port header and two serial port headers.
between the isa slots, next to the bios chip, you have a 2-slot usb1 header. usb is of dubious value to a dos gaming machine.

processor setup (voltages, divider, clock) isn't automatic on a board this old. if you didn't know about these features you REALLY need to read the manual, before you apply power. this is *probably* the right manual, can't quite read your model number from the photo https://www.manualslib.com/download/978434/Acorp-5ali61.html

[Anonymous No.6668258]

>>6667912
oh, and check out http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/J.Steunebrink/k6plus.htm for a BIOS patch to support the K6-III+

i'd suggest pulling out the eeprom and using an external programmer like a tl866 to make a backup of the old bios, then flash the new bios. done this way instead of a boot floppy you won't be hopelessly bricked if the system fails to POST.

[Anonymous No.6668618]

>>6667965
Nice. Notes taken. I am looking forward to when these will be available at the fair price once we all get through this.

>>6668182
Yeah, I'm familiar with the hassles of old computers. I started back with a 286-12 long ago. Part of the hobby time machine build does involve these old headaches, but that was how things were. If I wanted convenience, I can just SCUMMVM or DOSbox, but I think it is kind of cool playing around with some of the old parts I kept and renewing with some new parts I never had the chance of playing with back then. The manual has been saved.

>>6668258
Bookmarked the site in preparation, thanks for the suggestion. This reprogramming is getting way too advanced for my slow mind, plus way too much equipment for my budget. The only thing I am more concerned with right now is if some Chinese generic old all aluminum 370 cooler (the left one in the pic) would be sufficient for the MMX 166/233 or if I can figure out that programmer the K6-III+. I think I can replace the old fan with a new brown owl fan, but I think it has to be one that's directly molex connected, so not the FLX or PWM ones, so I gotta get a 5V one at some point.

[Anonymous No.6668650]

>>6668618
Don't the the S12IIs are even manufactured anymore, but you should be able to get an S12III at least.

A 370 heatsink will work for a Socket 7 CPU, and those Pentium 1s don't get especially hot anyway, so something made for a Pentium III should be more than enough. This is the heatsink I used in the OP pic for an MMX 233 if you wanna look at something else, though: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-65x60x45mm-Heatsink-connector-FAN370PRO/dp/B00006B8CO/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=socket+7+heatsink&qid=1596245830&sr=8-2

[Anonymous No.6668825]

>>6668618
you don't need to buy anything. fit a supported cpu, boot into dos and do the needful with a flash utility such as rainbow software's uniflash.

[Anonymous No.6670112]

>>6663209
Couldn't you just install one of the Windows Server editions, they support multiple processors and more ram.

Drivers might be hit and miss but normally corresponding Windows drivers work. Like Windows XP drivers tend to work on Windows Server 2003 x86.

[Anonymous No.6670767]

What's the best Win98 sound card?

I visited a recycler and pulled out a Sound Blaster Live, Audigy 2ZS, and an X-Fi PCI. SB Live would be more period accurate I guess.

[Anonymous No.6671589]

>>6670767
Are there X-fi drivers for 98?

[Anonymous No.6671603]

>>6663209
If the application does not support it, any other CPU than #0 will sit idle. There is no way to "force" a non multi threaded application to use more than one CPU.

[Anonymous No.6672030]

>>6670767
The Audigy 2 will be better, but if it gives you issues, go with the Live instead. Remember to use the VXD drivers though, games don't play so nicely with the WDM drivers.
Don't believe the X-Fi even has 98 support, not that I've ever heard of anyway. It's definitely a WinXP era card.

[Anonymous No.6672993]

I installed Win98 on an SSD and it randomly crashes when I transfer files through a USB.

Is the SSD too fast or something?

[Anonymous No.6673419]

>>6672993
That's not something I've encountered before. Could be an issue with the adapter you're using, or you may need to enable DMA mode? Unofficial Service Pack 3 may have something that could help out as well.

[Anonymous No.6675320]

This has been pretty educational for me, thanks everyone. I can't wait until I save up enough and can continue once this COVID thing is in the past. I see the Dreamblaster X2 + S2 bundle is back up for sale to torture me, never had a wavetable board, so I have no idea what those will do, but I am looking to experiment with those too.

>>6668650
Gotcha. For that era, I tend to prefer the ones with the copper slug with the aid of aluminum fins, but I just had a few cheap pure aluminum ones lying around. I am just wanting to probably replace the fan with a more modern one for noise reasons. Unfortunately the brown owl brand does not make theirs in a size between 60mm and 80mm which most of my pure aluminum ones use.

>>6668825
Yep, got the Gotek for the increased reliability over floppies. I hope that K6-III+ bios doesn't interfere with the possibility of using the MMX133 and MMX233 as well.

[Anonymous No.6675359]

Anyone got a hotkey solution for switching CDs with an NEC 4x4?
It's really damn annoying to switch with the systray tool and Win95 is already unstable af even when I'm not alt-tabbing my games.
I just wanna play FMV adventures without having to physically change discs.
Or do I just need to get off my ass and learn programming just for this?

[Anonymous No.6675786]

>>6675320
Wavetable boards are pretty sweet, and some (Roland SCB-55 and Yamaha DB50XG) are almost as good as having an external MIDI module, at least for gaming purposes. The X2 allows you to change soundfonts, so you can experiment until you find one you like. I remember seeing a pretty good Roland copycat for it.