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What the fuck were they thinking?

>> No.6632771

>>6632770
Bait thread

>> No.6632773

>DKC stole my spotlight and I'm very butthurt about it
That's all there's to it, really.

>> No.6632780
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>>6632773

>> No.6632783
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>>6632771
I think that's every thread it's just so tiring. It'd be best for the board to die but I can't stop myself from posting.

>> No.6632791

>>6632770
They were probably thinking, "how do we make some money?". Yoshi's Island sold 4.12 million copies. Just so you know, Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles added together sold 4 million.

>> No.6632874

>>6632770
>What the fuck were they thinking?

>Miyamoto: It was surprising, but once the development was really underway, there were very few ideas that we had to jettison. We knew this would be the last Mario game we made for the Super Famicom, so we wanted to go out with a bang and include all we could.

>If it was a simpler game, one that you just beat once and are done, then you could probably get rid of half of these mechanics, but we designed Yoshi’s Island so players would be able to replay the stages many times. That ended up giving us a lot of leeway for all the things we wanted to include.

http://shmuplations.com/yoshi/

>> No.6633109

>>6632770

"Let's make an excellent platformer."

And so they did

>> No.6633124

>>6632770
Best Athletic theme in the franchise. Prove me wrong.

>> No.6633127
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6633127

Probably something along the lines of
>The fact that so many gamers still name Donkey Kong Country as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" video game ever only tells you how far video games still are from becoming a serious art. Video game developers have long recognized that the greatest video games of all times are The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros., which were not the most graphically advanced or acclaimed or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. I myself rank the highly controversial Super Mario U.S.A. over video games that were highly popular in arcades around Japan. Gamers are still blinded by good graphics. Donkey Kong Country had better graphics than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Music enthusiasts grow up listening to a lot of music of the past, film enthusiasts grow up watching a lot of films of the past. Gamers are often totally ignorant of the video games of the past, they barely know gameplay mechanics. No wonder they will think that Donkey Kong Country is anything worthy of being played.
– Shigeru Miyamoto (1995)

>> No.6633134

>>6632874
I love shmuplations, great site.

>> No.6633269

>>6632770
>lets make an exploration focused platformer like Super Mario World but instead of multiple exits lets have collectables scattered throughout the level and one of them is expended when the player takes damage
If you 100% the game (like they intended) then it is a really fun game. If you rush through it though it's boring.

>> No.6633558

>>6632770
It's a piece of shit game. Not sure what they were thinking. I would rather play through a shitty LJN game than to go back to Yoshi's Island.

>> No.6633564

>>6632770
5/10

BUTT

Yoshi Island > Mario 3 > Mario 2 > Mario

>> No.6633565

>by gawd I HAVTA bump it it's awful bait but bah gawd

>> No.6633726

>>6633564
Yoshi's Island better than Mario 3? LOL You're delusional.

>> No.6633729
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Yoshi's Island? Oh, you mean Baby's Cryland!

>> No.6634202

>>6633729
More like stop getting hit you scrub

>> No.6635397

>>6634202
>s-s-stop g-g-getting h-h-hit
Nintendrones...lol every single time.

>> No.6635404

>>6635397
Oh, so your sole reason for disliking this game is console wars. Nevermind.

>> No.6635968

>>6632770
What do you mean? Its the best plataformer of all time.

>> No.6637141

YI would've been great if they got rid of Yoshi, baby Mario, eggs, the floating jump, and just had a normal Mario like in 3 or World.

>> No.6637142

>We should make a fun game
Probably that

>> No.6637143
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>>6637141
Interesting opinion.
I think the game is already great as it is, though.

>> No.6637147

>>6632770
Because of /vr/, I am really trying hard to get through this game, but it isn’t easy. I have no idea why this game is not only so overrated, but (I understand now) that it also essentially rebooted the Mario franchise.

The style and tone of Mario for the next 10-15 years were created in Yoshi’s Island.

>> No.6637174

>>6632770
They were thinking:
>hmm me make good game

>> No.6637189

>>6635404
>Being called a Nintendrone is "console wars"
t.Offended Brainlet

>> No.6637197

>>6637189
>>>/v/

>> No.6637209

>>6637189
Well, yeah? Thinking people like games only because they're "drones" of a company makes you come out as a console warrior yourself. You project your own endeavor onto others.

>> No.6637213

>>6637141
There are a million standard Mario games. I'd rather they did something completely different once in a while.

>> No.6637237
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>>6634202

>> No.6637296

>>6632770
I love the game now but I hated it when it came out. It was not what I thought I wanted as a SMW2

>> No.6637640

>>6637213
If its completely different, why call it Mario, besides milking the mascot for all its worth. When someone starts talking about Mario games, I don't think of baby Mario riding on Yoshi's back shooting eggs at things. The game is stupid and unplayable. Most of it is way too easy, or then you get to some parts that are instant death. 3 and world were perfect. All they had to do was make another.

>> No.6637650

>>6637640
>If its completely different, why call it Mario
But the game is called yoshi's island

>> No.6637664

>>6637650
"Super Mario World 2" The name of the game literally says its a sequel to SMW.

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>> No.6637676

>>6637650
It’s Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island

>> No.6637706

>>6637197
>v
Not into that movie

>>6637209
Nah, I call out any brainwashed Nintendo fanboy "drones" when they get offended over an opinion they don't like. I happen to be a Nintendo fan, I got a NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube. Yoshi's Island is crap. SMW is awesome. Don't like that opinion? Oh well, opinions don't care about your feelings.

>> No.6637736

>>6633127
Is this even a real quote?

>> No.6637738

>>6637736
Yes. It caused quite a stir back then.

>> No.6637740

>>6637738
Hasn't he walked it back since then though and said he actually likes DKC and had no ill will towards it or something?

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>>6633127
He's the man

>> No.6637861

>>6632770
It’s a masterpiece, also fuck /vr/

>> No.6637870

This autist sure is persistent.

>> No.6637884

>>6637870
Who?

>> No.6637886
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>>6637736
>>6637748
>getting filtered by an old as dirt pasta
Look up "The Beatles copypasta", it's a variant of that

>> No.6637890

>>6637706
>im a nintendo fan! But you're a nintendrone
Ok. Nice falseflag.
You're a console warrior and are bad at hiding it.

>> No.6637893

>>6637886
Other way around. The Beatles copypasta is from 1998, the Miyamoto quote is from 1995.

>> No.6637894

>>6637736
It's a beatles scaruffi pasta from /mu/

>> No.6637901

>>6637893
Don't you get tired of doing the same skit over and over, /mu/ngrel?

>> No.6637902

>>6637706
>I call out any brainwashed Nintendo fanboy "drones" when they get offended over an opinion they don't like.
IE: Console warring.
>my opinion is absolute fact and opposing it in any way makes you a drone for the company I don't like

>> No.6637913
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>>6633127
>creator’s opinion matters more than the audience

>> No.6637916

>>6637901
Huh?

>> No.6637931

>>6637913
Piero Scaruffi would say that the critic is the real artist, kek

>> No.6637954
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>>6637890
>>6637902
Nice to see you Nintendrones proven wrong. BTFO!

>> No.6637963

>>6637954
You're still an idiot for using /v/ console war insults.
What's that starfox 2 thing? Is that a mini console?

>> No.6637968

>>6632770
I seriously never played that game because I thought it was a fucking betrayal when it came out.

>> No.6638010

>>6637963
Using "console war" insults doesn't make me an idiot. Getting offended by my language does make you an idiot though.

It's a SNES Mini carrying case. You can change the cards to whatever cover you want. I just went with Star Fox 2 since it's my favorite game from the SNES Mini.

>> No.6638031

>>6638010
>Using "console war" insults doesn't make me an idiot
Sure does.
>Getting offended
Not really, but you seem offended that I righteously called you out as a conwa.
>buying mini consoles
hahah

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>>6637954
>nintendrone

Ok.

>> No.6638289

>>6637968
The clerk at the video store convinced me not to buy it. I saw the YI cart, said something about "Holy cow, a sequel to SMW!!?! My dreams have come true!" The clerk shook his head and said that if I like 3 and World that I would hate YI.

>> No.6638319

Try to make it a bit less obvious next time my samefagging friend.

>> No.6638345

I'm glad I'm a person who enjoys this game instead of a person who dislikes it. It means I have another nice long platformer on the SNES to love! The people who like platformers but dislike Yoshi's Island have one less game to play and that's too bad.

>> No.6638356
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>rent "Super Mario World 2"
>you actually play as Yoshi the whole time
>the levels want really bad to be multi-tiered objectives with twists and turns but it's still the same old Mario levels but with fewer pits, weird transformation gimmicks, and a gradeschool scoring system to encourage you to play well, since you sure as fuck aren't going to die very much
Never liked this game t b h

>> No.6638453

>>6638345
Yoshi's Island is a game that even my die-hard Sega fan friends liked, I never knew anyone who didn't like it IRL, but I guess the internet is always going to have all kind of people. The YI hate bandwagon is really loud, but I suspect it's very small, too.

>> No.6638462

>>6638453
It's literally one guy that post the same thing every time the game is mentioned.
I don't know why this board attracts so many schizos.

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>>6638462
Yeah I noticed there's always that one guy who is very quick to post "YI sucks".
Anyway, I never understood the people who criticize it for being a "collctathon", as a kid I never gave a single fuck about the score, but I admit when I replayed it as an adult, the score adds a lot of depth to it, still, you can play the game without caring about perfect score and it's still a pretty fun platformer/action game. And even when it comes to score, it's far from a collectathon, and more about not getting hit.
Haters gonna hate, I guess. Pic related.

>> No.6638535

>>6638289
>>6637968
Sure, the crying thing is annoying, but beyond that its an absolutely stellar game. If you still haven't played it you should.

>> No.6638637

They were thinking "hmm yes today I'll make a platformer that surpasses Mario in every way"

Real shame they could never manage to make another solid Yoshi game after this.

>> No.6638650

>>6638453
I've beaten the game and I dislike it.

>> No.6638696

>>6638031
>can't afford mini consoles
t.Poorfag

>> No.6638702

>>6638453
I don't like Sega and Yoshi's Island sucks balls.

>> No.6638776

>>6638650
>>6638702
It's perfectly OK to not like every game ever, what's weird is the people that go out of their way to declare how much they loathe a popular game.

>> No.6638795

>>6638776
I find it strange that people like you would defend this "popular" game. You act just like the guy who defended Sonic CD, unable to accept the fact that some people dislike a game you like.

>> No.6638820

>>6638795
>"popular"
Are you implying Yoshi's Island is not a popular game?

>> No.6638845

>>6638820
It's a divisive game. Lots of Mario purists dislike it for how radical of a change (for better or worse...) it was to previous SMB games. Frankly, I wish we'd gotten a real late-SNES Mario game instead of a Yoshi spin-off, but whatever.

>> No.6638852

>>6638480
I never noticed the fat shy guys are playing by Rayman rules
>You learn something new every day

>> No.6638913

>>6638845
>It's a divisive game
It's not stop lying.

>> No.6638940

>>6638845
That's like saying Wario Land is a divisive game because it's not exactly like the Super Mario Land games.
That's just not true, Yoshi's Island was always well received universally. Contrarians will always exist, sure, but contrarians' opinions are, by nature, not popular.

>> No.6638954

>>6638940
>That's like saying Wario Land is a divisive game because it's not exactly like the Super Mario Land games.
Yes? I know people who don't like WL because it wasn't a proper third Mario Land entry.

>Yoshi's Island was always well received universally.
Not true in the slightest, Yoshifag.

>> No.6638987

>>6638954
okay anon.

>> No.6639213

>>6633127
holy fucking shit shiggy DKC team had families why did you had to kill them like this

>> No.6639220

>>6637664
>>6637676
>what is marketing
Also the first YI is literally just a better kirby imagine being so edgy you take a comfy platformer this seriously

>> No.6639302

>>6638845
Exactly. It is a very divisive game. The fact that there's some fanboys denying this, makes them delusional and unable to accept reality. I've been a fan of the Super Mario games my whole life and I have never enjoyed Yoshi's Island, it is the weakest of the franchise.

>> No.6639312

>>6639302
I mean, if we're going by random online people's opinions, then every game ever is "divisive", since there's haters for every single game, at least popular ones.
Yoshi's Island was universally acclaimed, it's hardly a divisive game, objectively and historically speaking.

>> No.6639329

>>6632770
Is this another thread where we pretend that Yoshi's Island was bad?
>>6632773
>>6632771
based. Tired of this shit

>> No.6639335

>>6637736
No.
>>6637740
fucking retard

>> No.6640638

>>6639329
Its a fine game for people that aren't Mario fans. But as a sequel to SMW (I'm talking to that retard that forgot its SMW2), its shit.

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>>6640638
>Its a fine game for people that aren't Mario fans.
Oh shut up.
>s. But as a sequel to SMW (I'm talking to that retard that forgot its SMW2), its shit.
And fuck off. The number one complaint I see for Mario games is that they're too samey. God forbid a sequel try something new for once instead of just making another rehash of SMB 3

>> No.6640828

Donkey Kong Country > Yoshi's Island > Gameboy Donkey Kong > Super Mario > Super Peach > Wario > Every other Yoshi game

>> No.6640834

It's a fucking great game and i'm going to go and play it again just to piss you off. Fuck you.

>> No.6641186

>>6639312
Wow, the mental gymnastics you're going through to defend Yoshi's Island. There are a lot of people who don't like Yoshi's Island, that is the cold hard reality.

>> No.6641195

>>6640638
Exactly.

>>6640657
You get too easily triggered by people's honest opinions of this game. That brain damage pic describes you accurately.

>> No.6641201

>>6641195
Your 'opinions' are fucking garbage and you should off yourself.

>> No.6641203

>>6640828
>>6641195
>>6641186
Samefag.

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>>6641201
Thank you for proving my point that you're too easily triggered by people's honest opinions against this game. kys

>>6641203
Nope. I only made one post. Nice try.

>> No.6641356

>>6641348
>inspect element

>> No.6641376

>>6638356
Goddamn this.
>at blockbuster with friends and we get to rent 2 games
>See YOSHIS ILAND in big bold letters and a baby mario
>thought it was a kids game at first
>see the tiny smashed together supermarioworld2 title above
>nudge my friend and say "hey did you know this is the sequel to SMW?"
>holy shit, lets get it!
>bum bum ba dum dum
>"WhaaAAA! WhaaAAA!"
>BOIIIINNGGG
>Play Killer instinct all night instead

>> No.6641389

6641376
>changes ip again to pretend to be a different poster
Disgusting phoneposter.

>> No.6641392

>>6641376
Based, only literal autists with the mentality of a 5-year-old could enjoy """SMW2""".

>> No.6641394

Imagine buying mini consoles.
Imagine being the anti yoshi poster.

>> No.6641406

>>6641394
>the anti yoshi poster.
As if it isn't just Australia again.

>> No.6641413

>>6641406
>australia buying nintendo products>>6637954
The absolute state

>> No.6641421

>>6641376
>not enjoying both YI and Killer Instinct in 1995
Sad childhood tbqh.
Also, the "boing" sound when Yoshi jumps is total kino, they ruined it in the GBA version.

>> No.6641423

>>6641413
I keep thinking australia is an actual die-hard Nintendo fanboy falseflagging as an anti-nintendo retard, just to make anti-nintendo people look bad.
He can't be serious about his shitposting.

>> No.6641435

>>6641348
I don't care if someone has an opinion. It gets annoying when they shit up every thread, make bait threads all the time and make it impossible to talk about a game because they personally have a hate boner for it.

>> No.6641441
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Remember what they took from you

>> No.6641453

>>6641441
It looks pretty soulful, but I also like the papyrus maps in the final product

>> No.6641456

>>6641441
They should've increased the ROM size to 3MB just for this, the fact the game is only 2MB is really odd considering how late a release it was.

>> No.6641614

>>6641435
>It gets annoying when they shit up every thread, make bait threads all the time and make it impossible to talk about a game because they personally have a hate boner for it.
I think you're thinking of the Bernie Poster who shits up every thread with "Sega Shitturn".

Also if you didn't care about someone having an opinion, you wouldn't be complaining.

>> No.6641640

>>6641456

each MB of memory is a lot of money for 1995 standars
Theres plenty of games that got axed in order to reduce size. If we add that YI already uses the SuperFX i guess the cut was necessary. Yoshi Island at launch was 70 dollars.

>> No.6641656

>>6641456
The game was expensive as hell, it cost 80, probably due to the extra FX chips.

>> No.6642205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qkrKTAOv2M

>> No.6642228

>>6642205
The sound of scrubs complaining about getting hit
Pro tip: if you're quick enough, you can even grab him back before he even begins to cry. But people who get hit a lot are also very slow in general, so yeah, it checks out.

>> No.6642242

>>6642205
best game ever

>> No.6642259

>>6642205
IRL babbies crying piss me off, but this has genuinely never bothered me.

>> No.6642263

>>6642205

i have been playing the prototype and theres no sound when losing baby mario unless the timer is lower than 10, so ironically i dont feel the urge to recover him as much i did when it had the annoying crying sound

>> No.6642450

>>6641394
>>6641406
>>6641413
I'm actually from the U.S. You're definitely a poorfag if you can't afford a SNES mini. Keep getting triggered though, your tears are delicious.

>> No.6642464

>>6642450
ok zoomie

>> No.6644139

>>6637143
i always loved that background.

>> No.6645183

>>6633109
Except platforming takes a backseat to collecting

>> No.6645189

>>6645183
It really doesn't.

>> No.6645203

>>6645189
There are hardly any pits or any challenging platforming sections.

>> No.6645207

>>6645203
You don't need pits to have a good platforming and I think you need to replay the game if you think there are no challenging bits. It is an overall not very hard game but that has nothing to do with quality.

>> No.6645343

>>6632770
They were thinking this...

>Let's rip people off by making players think this is a Super Mario World sequel, but in reality they are going to play a shitty game based on Yoshi and a baby Mario who can't do shit except whine when you get hit.

Whoever thought this was a good idea, needs to kill themselves.

>> No.6645435

>>6645343
Wow anon, you convinced me! This is not a good game! I was fooled all these years... good thing there's anon spitting the truth.

>> No.6645461

>the schizo stills at it.

>> No.6645465

>>6645343
Reminder you are still zoomie consumer that buys mini consoles.

>> No.6645602

>>6645343
You were born after this game's release or you would have remembered the unanimous critical praise at the time for this beloved title.

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>>6633127
>The fact that so many gamers still name Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" video game ever only tells you how far video games still are from becoming a serious art. Video game developers have long recognized that the greatest video games of all times are Phantasy Star and Alex Kidd in Miracle World, which were not the most graphically advanced or best sellers or open ended of their times, let alone of all times. I myself rank the largely unknown Nights into Dreams overopen world video games that are highly popular in the west. Gamers are still blinded by unwarranted freedom. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild has more freedom than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Music enthusiasts grow up listening to a lot of music of the past, film enthusiasts grow up watching a lot of films of the past. Gamers are often totally ignorant of the video games of the past, they barely know actual game design. No wonder they will think that Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild is anything worthy of being played.

– Yuji Naka (2018)

I can do inspiring fake quotes too!

>> No.6645619

>>6645617
Hey that’s not a new quote! You just changed some names around

>> No.6645631

>>6645617
This is clearly just a ripoff of the Miyamoto quote, who do you think you’re fooling?

>> No.6645708

>>6645203
>There are hardly any pits or any challenging platforming sections.
Been replaying Yoshi's Island over the last few days cause of one of these threads and let me just say, fuck you. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.6645734

>>6645617
999% based. Gonna save this to use everytime the fake Shigsy quote pops up.

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>>6637748
omg it's real

>> No.6645906

>>6637669
is that a fucking Vietnam simulator???

>> No.6645928

>>6645774
>Watashi wa
Heh, nice google translate, EOP.

>> No.6645996

>>6645928
English isn't my mother tongue.

>> No.6646295

>>6632770
"Let's make a good game"
And so they did.

>> No.6646973

>>6645343
It's not a Super Mario World sequel because it is fucking better than Super Mario World. Every level is huge and unique and has their own style and they are full with interesting mechanics and secrets. While all SMW has is forest, water, plain, ghost house, castle. Even the castles look totally different in YI.

>> No.6648371

>>6632770
>"How can I put as much soul as possible into 1 single game?"
Seethe harder OP but this is literally one of my go-back-to games when I'm depressed. This games literally makes me fucking happy. I love it.

>> No.6648937

>>6637143
SOUL

>> No.6648941

>>6648937
ZOOM