/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6629358]

What is the best JRPG?

[Anonymous No.6629367]

>>6629358
DUAL ORB 2

[Anonymous No.6629368]

>>6629358
My favorites are FF5. Chrono Trigger, and Mother 3, bur I haven't played that many. If I had to pick one, though, I'd probably pick Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.6629383]

Wizardry

[Anonymous No.6629389]

>>6629358
Pokémon

[Anonymous No.6629395]

Dragon Quest 1, on NES

[Anonymous No.6630096]

>>6629367
Good post.

[Anonymous No.6630108]

>>6629395
>t. not mentally ill
Nice, I thought I was the only one.

[Anonymous No.6630118]

>>6629358
I'm not even kidding

[Anonymous No.6630130]

>>6629358
Final Fantasy VIII or Grandia

[Anonymous No.6630131]

>>6629358
Suikoden

[Anonymous No.6630141]

Romancing SaGa 2

[Anonymous No.6630157]

>>6630118
Retro

[Anonymous No.6630162]

>>6629358

[Anonymous No.6630172]

Wizardry

[Anonymous No.6630173]

>>6629358

[Anonymous No.6630174]

>>6629358
I'd rather watch animu. At least you don't need to grind there.

[Anonymous No.6630602]

>>6629395
is goku wearing a dress?

[Anonymous No.6630671]

>>6630602
That's obviously Yamcha, imbecile.

[Anonymous No.6630681]

Dragon Quest 3

[Anonymous No.6630696]

>>6630671
Oh sorry, I don't know much about Yu Yu Hakusho

[Anonymous No.6630915]

>>6630157
Oh, sorry! Dragon Quest 8.

[Anonymous No.6630935]

For me, it's Breath of Fire

[Anonymous No.6631009]

Grandia

[Anonymous No.6631059]

>>6630602
Which one do you even mean?

[Anonymous No.6631209]

>>6631009
Not the best JRPG, but definitely one of the most heart-warming.

[Anonymous No.6631230]

>>6631009
I completed Grandia recently and I loved it. Is Grandia 2 worth playing?

[Anonymous No.6631269]

>>6629358
Chrono Trigger
FF7
Golden Sun one and two.
Xenogears.
Lunar Legends Silver Star Story.

Probably one of those ^

But I also like silly things like Riviera The Promised Land and Yggdra Union. Also I like Summon Knight 1&2.

GBA isn't retro I know but the truth hurts. Golden Sun meets between the maturity levels of Chrono Trigger and something like Xenogears or FF7. A happy medium.

So Golden Sun. Just not the third. I'd say FF6 is great, or 3, whatever, but the hidden staircase shit and that magical tower are too much bullshit. I got Ultima'd so many times.

[Anonymous No.6631271]

>>6631269
-summon knight


too much action

[Anonymous No.6631372]

>>6631230
>>6631009

I don't want to come off as a troll but did either of you play the lunar games first? As a Sega CD era Lunar fan Grandia disappointed me more than almost any other game I've played.

[Anonymous No.6631395]

earthbound

[Anonymous No.6631581]

>re-playing all RPGs in backlog currently for fun
So far I think Chrono Trigger's pretty damm good.

[Anonymous No.6631617]

>>6629395
I love DQ1 but come on now, at least say DQIII.

[Anonymous No.6631870]

>>6631372
How is the gba lunar?

[Anonymous No.6631873]

>>6631617
DQIII is a great game, but it's not the best. DQ1's strength is its simplicity, and for all the novelty DQIII introduces it also comes with a trade-off of feeling padded - both in length and in combat.

[Anonymous No.6631886]

>>6631873
What.
DQIII is simple too, there's nothing padded about it.
DQI is overly simple. There isn't any real thought to the battling other than "do I heal now or do I risk attacking one more time"

[Anonymous No.6632007]

>>6631581
>re-playing
>backlog
???

[Anonymous No.6632071]

>>6632007
maybe he has a log of games he wants to replay?

[Anonymous No.6632073]

My heart says Suikoden, but my brain says Suikoden II.

[Anonymous No.6632084]

>>6632071
>II
I thought that was obvious lol

[Anonymous No.6632194]

>>6631230
>Is Grandia 2 worth playing?
No, it's terrible. Agree that Grandia 1 is great though

[Anonymous No.6632254]

I've technically beaten the RPG before but it's been so long that I forgot everything about it and it feels new to me. Whenever that happens I just re-play it anyway.

Obviously unbeaten games take precedence but I just think to myself why not just replay games I know I'll enjoy.

[Anonymous No.6632279]

>>6632194
>>6631230
>>6631009
>>6630130
>grandia

Isos are too big and the color wasn't for the usa but I just realized the patch works. Even on my ps2 gbc emulator!

I didn't even have to patch it either!

I'm in for some fun? Dating is gay anyway. It's super colorful.

[Anonymous No.6632287]

>>6629358
https://youtu.be/pE_pD1XIRsQ?t=37

Final Fantasy VI

The music is above and beyond.

[Anonymous No.6632296]

>>6632279
>Even on my ps2 gbc emulator
That's a different game. We're talking about the original for PS1 and Saturn, and yeah, it's great

[Anonymous No.6632298]

>>6629395
based dq1 chad
The simplicity makes it more fun to me

[Anonymous No.6632314]

>>6629358
Phantasy Star on Sega Master System

[Anonymous No.6632404]

>>6631059
leather armor looks like a cocktail dress

[Anonymous No.6632525]

>>6632296
It's a stripped down port tho, just like the Lunar Legends for the gba has a stripped down port.

Saving space is my thing. I liked Hexen a lot for the psx until I realized there's a slightly shittier version for the n64.

So yeah. It's just missing the dating element, right? It's still a good looking rpg yes?

The gbc has a surprising amount of rpg's to play. Azure Dreams. Grandia. Pokemon games. Crystalis. Final Fantasy games. Etc.

[Anonymous No.6633050]

Definitely one of the SaGa games if I'm going to be honest, I'm torn between Romancing SaGa 2 and SaGa Frontier. SaGa games are great because of their open-endedness, tons of content, can be very challenging and very addicting, and there are multiple different kinds of choices one can make each play through as well

[Anonymous No.6633108]

>>6633050
I'm a huge fan of the generations system in RS2, so I'd say that game. It's just so replayable.

[Anonymous No.6633250]

>>6632525
The GBC has zero FF proper games

[Anonymous No.6633293]

>>6633250
does it have any at all? the wikipedia list of ff games doesn't mention gameboy colour at all

[Anonymous No.6633394]

>>6633250
>>6633293
Final Fantasy Legend 1 2 and 3 and Final Fantasy Adventure are okay.

I know that Adventure is really just proto-secret-of-mana though, hence the third game not being the second on the snes.

Regardless of the battle system, they are made by square so that's that.

"Proper". heh.

[Anonymous No.6633397]

>>6633250
Technically those were gb games but gb is also gbc so.....

[Anonymous No.6633415]

>>6633394
none of those are gameboy colour games

[Anonymous No.6633419]

>>6633397
that's like saying "ff7 is my favourite ps2 final fantasy"

[Anonymous No.6633440]

>>6633394
Yeah, the Legend games are actually SaGa 1/2/3, Adventure is Mana/Seiken Densetsu 1.
No idea why they rebranded them as Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.6633521]

>>6633440
Same reason doki doki panic is mario. The name matters more than anything. That's why nintendo sues over fanmade freeware now days. The name itself matters more than anything.

[Anonymous No.6633527]

>>6633415
It still has Azure Dreams, Grandia, Crystalis, regardless of having no FF games.

Pokemon notwithstanding are rpgs.


The gameboy had nice games.

[Anonymous No.6634123]

>half the thread is bare bones DQ games with no character or plot to speak of
Seriously?

[Anonymous No.6634130]

>>6634123
Go ahead, anon.

[Anonymous No.6634140]

Tales of Phantasia or Star Ocean

[Anonymous No.6634174]

Earthbound

[Anonymous No.6634214]

>>6634123
>implying /vr/ cares about characters and plot

All gameplay all the time.

[Anonymous No.6634242]

>>6634214
but DQ has shit gameplay too

[Anonymous No.6634258]

>>6633108
I really don't think people give SaGa the credit it deserves, when it comes to SNES JRPGs, yeah sure games like Earthbound and Chrono Trigger shake up the setting with a unique plot where as SaGa games at first glance just look like Final Fantasy games that aren't called Final Fantasy, and yet Romancing SaGa somehow manages to not only subvert JRPGs tropes in it's story(like with the Seven Heroes) it also stands out as having some of the most interesting and experimental mechanics in the genre, how many games will let you play as an emperor moleman? Not many I assume.

[Anonymous No.6634368]

>>6634258
I believe that if the Romancing SaGa games had initially been released in the west, then they would be cult classics, as, AFAIK, SaGa games are quite popular in the east. Unfortunately, with the popularity of FF6 and FF7, the industry has been changed forever, to the point where any JRPG that isn't strictly linear, features a large cast of memorable, unique characters, with a story full of cliché moments, is looked down upon. Just look at the amount of people who hated on Octopath Traveler simply for not overtly including some overarching plot and instead having 8 individual stories while this overarching plot was rather implied and subtly presented via side-quests.
Romancing SaGa 2, for me, is peak JRPG as it does best what the genre is supposedly all about: roleplaying. In RS2, it is your adventure, and not someone else's (which is what, imo, it felt like to play through FF6. Even if you changed the names of the characters, virtually everything was pre-defined, leaving no real room for roleplaying). That combined with its experimental, but genuinely great mechanics, s.a. the generations mechanics and its very non-linear structure with multiple ways to approach pretty much every side-quest, made it seriously stand out compared to other SFC/SNES JRPGs of that time.

[Anonymous No.6634513]

>>6630174
Filler.

[Anonymous No.6634534]

>>6634174
Mother 1 was such a grindy slog. It gets points for originality, but fuck I could not with the grind. Same as with Pokemon games (Red, Blue, and onward as far as I can tell). I really wish Nintendo would release more first/second-party RPGs that didn't have such a grind problem. Mother 2 and SMRPG seem to get it right, but M1 and Pokemon can fuck right off.

[Anonymous No.6634802]

>>6634534
Pokemon was made for grinding to find stuff. But you could just use your starter, never bother catching anything else and steamroll the game without ever once stopping to grind.

[Anonymous No.6635167]

>>6634802
You only have to grind for Brock and Misty depending on your starter, the game is a cakewalk after that

[Anonymous No.6635175]

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together

Matsuno is a master

[Anonymous No.6635179]

>>6631269
If Chrono Trigger was so great then why was it forgotten?
But, seriously, why hasn't there been a remake or some shit?

[Anonymous No.6635193]

>>6635179
It’s lightning in a bottle zoomer

[Anonymous No.6635213]

It's a stand-alone title. It's that good. Too good.

[Anonymous No.6635220]

>>6635179
>But, seriously, why hasn't there been a remake
too soon

[Anonymous No.6635623]

>>6634140
ToP maybe, but Star Ocean is a buggy mess

[Anonymous No.6636165]

>>6629358
Probably Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.6636187]

[Anonymous No.6636302]

>>6635179
Why would there be one?

[Anonymous No.6636617]

>>6635193
>>6635220
>>6636302
cope

[Anonymous No.6636726]

>>6636187
It's so funny how most of their KO sprites double as sleeping sprites but then you come to Frog.

[Anonymous No.6636728]

Dragon Quest V no contest.

[Anonymous No.6636769]

>>6636728

[Anonymous No.6636882]

Chrono trigger is my runner-up, but for retro games, I might have to say Front Mission. Love the tactical gameplay and customization you can have on your mechs.

[Anonymous No.6636929]

>>6630162
This guy knows what’s up. Way ahead of it’s time.

[Anonymous No.6637041]

>>6635175

Amen

Tactics Ogre
Suikoden II
Final Fantasy VII
Chrono Trigger

If your Mt. Rushmore doesn't include TO:LUCT it's only because you haven't played it

[Anonymous No.6637056]

it's not retro so if i speak i am in big trouble

for retro rpgs, final fantasy ix, ff tactics and tales of phantasia

[Anonymous No.6637316]

>>6635179
It's a hidden gem that never got capitalistically corrupted properly unlike other hit games. It's second everyone hated because too much effort went into the first game

[Anonymous No.6637325]

>>6636617
parrotting redditors should leave

[Anonymous No.6637368]

>>6636929
>the game is absolute shit therefore it's ahead of its time

[Anonymous No.6637470]

>>6637316
>It's a hidden gem
shut the fuck up. CT is the exact opposite of a hidden gem. Games like Rudra no Hihou, Romancing SaGa 2, Breath of Fire 2, Metal Max Returns, etc., are hidden gems. CT is virtually the first game people mention when asked about SFC/SNES JRPGs.
You're absolutely delusional.

[Anonymous No.6637487]

>>6637041
which version of TO:LUCT should i play?

[Anonymous No.6637492]

>>6637470
I'm 3l and have never ever not even in used game stores growing up seen this cart in real life. The internet and emulators make you think it's more popular than it is

[Anonymous No.6637520]

>>6637487
Any, but the PSP remake if you have the ability. Somehow makes a perfect game better & was created by the original team (which should squash any concerns).

[Anonymous No.6637534]

>>6632314
based johnny

[Anonymous No.6637559]

What elements/features makes a JRPG a good JRPG game? Besides story, characters, and atmosphere, naturally.

[Anonymous No.6637581]

>>6637559
Those elements + battle system (also includes leveling) & music.

JRPGS feel like you're playing a book which is why voice acted RPGs are not nearly as beloved

[Anonymous No.6637592]

>>6629358

[Anonymous No.6637683]

>>6629368
Wtf are you...me?

Just beat FF6 this year and it just replaced mother 3 for me.

[Anonymous No.6637695]

>>6637520
Lies lies lies
>class-based leveling system combined with class marks make it impossible to play around with party combinations
>numerous classes gimped, Terror Knight is a fucking mage now
>every reference to demonology was spelled wrong on purpose just because the translator is a petty cunt
>all rare drops removed, no point in killing anyone but the stage boss
>worst crafting system ever designed
>need a unique skill to recruit different types of monsters, making all the fun stuff you could do in the original version with skeletons impossible
>because of the shitty rebalancing the difficulty level is all over the place, maps that used to be simple are now impossible

[Anonymous No.6637708]

>>6634258
>>6634368
Hiding important game mechanics from the player is not a great idea to establish a big fanbase.

[Anonymous No.6637847]

>>6637316
>Chrono Trigger
>hidden gem

"It has placed highly on all six of multimedia website IGN's 'top 100 games of all time' lists—4th in 2002, 6th in early 2005, 13th in late 2005, 2nd in 2006, 18th in 2007, and 2nd in 2008."

[Anonymous No.6638005]

>>6637847
see: >>6637492


big planet

[Anonymous No.6638163]

>>6638005

[Anonymous No.6638203]

>>6637708
this, although minstrel song deviates from this and has an npc that explains most of its mechanics
shame about the artstyle

[Anonymous No.6638325]

>>6637708
I already explicitly stated that SaGa games are pretty popular in the east, so I doubt that's the case.
Also, the "hiding mechanics" stuff isn't even nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Believe it or not, I went into RS3 completely blind and managed to beat it. Sure, you probably won't find out about shit like commander mode on your first playthrough, but I see nothing wrong with not seeing everything in your first playthrough. The "hidden" mechanics are pretty much as nebulous as the side-quests in Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.6638339]

>>6637492
so what this essentially proves is that it wasn't as popular back when it first released? This still doesn't make it a hidden gem. Just look for "Top 10 SNES JRPGs" and CT will probably be in the top 3, if not first place. The game is fucking everywhere and definitely not "hidden".

[Anonymous No.6638360]

>>6637325
exactly. At least then we wouldn't have "what's the best verion of ff4/ff6/ff7/CT/etc." threads every single day.

[Anonymous No.6638630]

>>6637708
I disagree with this. Hidden mechanics and discovering them is part of the journey. Why should your hero know everything about the world?

[Anonymous No.6638651]

>>6634534
M1 isn't really grindy, there's just a lot of random battles. So long as you don't run away you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.6638657]

>>6637708
I'm going to be honest, I beat a few SaGa games completely blind and during those times I first went into the game making tons of mistakes, yet I still managed to beat them, later on learning about everything I was doing wrong after having beat it, was actually fun and made me want to go back to the games. Making mistakes is okay, hidden mechanics benefit you when you know about them but they don't really need to be known to the player to even enjoy the experience, in fact it may even make you play the game more rigidly and make the experience less fun.

[Anonymous No.6638706]

>>6638163
>I have no argument but you look like x person ergo ur wrong!

Illogical.

[Anonymous No.6638781]

>>6637316
>hidden gem
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.6638819]

>>6638781
Ir3l.

[Anonymous No.6639387]

>>6637559
>What elements/features makes a JRPG a good JRPG game?
soul

[Anonymous No.6639739]

>>6638706
Nice try Metal Jesus, but no one else in their right mind would call it a hidden gem.

[Anonymous No.6639762]

>>6637492
so? i'm 30 and haven't seen a super mario world cart in real life
guess it's not popular
na man, we're just too young for snes stuff

[Anonymous No.6640231]

>>6637559
dungeon exploring, combat, non-linearity, interesting mechanics, etc.

[Anonymous No.6640538]

i'm playing Wild Arms 3 and i have to say i'm not impressed
maybe it gets better after the 6 hours i've played?
also i hate that you gain force only if you attack, get hit or evade

[Anonymous No.6640717]

>>6637708
What? You think people want everything spoonfed to them? Experimentation and figuring things out is the most fun thing about games. A game that would tell you everything right from the beginning would be boring as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6641116]

>>6631269
>Xenogears
This meme must die.

[Anonymous No.6641245]

Valkyrie Profile, FF6, Lunar Silver Star Story and Shadow Hearts Covenant are fine contenders.

A lot of people here don't seem to know jack shit about JRPGs given their poor choices, but anyone who talks about Romancing SaGa and Rudra no Hihou are based as fuck and you should listen to them.

[Anonymous No.6641301]

>>6629358
My opinion doesn't matter to most of you because I am posting a popular game, but I'll post it anyway.

[Anonymous No.6641323]

>>6630141
I'm going to play that soon. Just got it on the Switch.

[Anonymous No.6642302]

>>6641301
It doesn't matter because VII is objectively one of the weakest entries in the series.

[Anonymous No.6642468]

>>6641323
Have fun! RS2 is easily the most fun I have ever had in a JPRG in a very long time. I'd say it's best to go in blind and not look up a whole lot, if anything. If you really need to look something up, then do that. Just remember to never follow a guide religiously. I made that mistake on my first playthrough for about 40% of the game, as I was afraid of accidentally fucking something up, and absolutely hated it. All the fun comes from trying stuff out yourself and learning shit via trial & error. Don't be scared of...
...party wipes (sometimes, getting your party wiped can cause some quests to fail, if you're in the middle of doing them, but it's, more often than not, not that big of a deal anyway. I'd say save-scumming in that scenario would be okay, if you really want to complete that quest, just don't feel the pressure to do that).
...missing powerful equipment (while it's true that the final boss is one of the hardest SFC JRPG bosses out there, and the entire game is essentially just preparing for it, it still doesn't require you to have obtained the most powerful equipment there is. It's definitely helpful, especially when you don't have all the good spells and techs, but not required in any shape or form.)
...forgetting to spark certain techs (ideally, you'll want to spark a few techs every generation, but it's not required for you to beat the game. Just look at me, I sparked absolutely nothing during my first playthrough for like 3 or 4 generations and still was able to beat the game by min-maxing near the end)
...your battle rank going up (during my first playthrough, as you also earn money from battles even if you flee, I thought it would be a good idea to flee from hundreds of battles in order to farm money in the early game. That obviously quickly backfired as my battle rank was now in the thousands. Enemies were ruthless now, but still manageable by abusing status effects.)

[Anonymous No.6642521]

>>6641301
It's not really the fact that it's popular why people hate it, but moreso the fact that the people shilling it are often very harsh to the new and unknown. As they've played what's often called the "best of the best" (obviously due to the popularity of these games, which also comes from nostalgia), they often assume all other games of the genre are bad, not worth playing, and nothing compared to the "titans" CT, FF6, Xenogears, and the like.
It seems as though, looking for the "objectively" best game, people have forgotten how to have fun in video games, and started to immediately hate on any game that isn't consensually seen as some kind of masterpiece, which, according to them, again, is "objectively" good.

[Anonymous No.6642532]

>>6629358
The one which your pic related is from.

[Anonymous No.6642834]

>>6642532
I almost agreed but then I remembered Chocobo Hot And Cold

[Anonymous No.6643212]

>>6630131
Great game, but II is better in every way

[Anonymous No.6643603]

>>6634140
>Tales of Phantasia
Based

[Anonymous No.6643643]

>>6642834
and then I remembered Garnet's rear end

[Anonymous No.6644572]

>>6629389
crystal

[Anonymous No.6645725]

>>6629389
shitty bait

[Anonymous No.6646034]

>>6645725
There's actually a case to be made there considering how revolutionary it was

[Anonymous No.6646234]

chrono cross
final fantasy 8
and xenogears

[Anonymous No.6646390]

>>6630602
That's clearly Gohan during Piccolo's training, n00b.

[Anonymous No.6646396]

>>6633440
To be fair, Mana started out as a Final Fantasy spinoff in Japan, too. Final Fantasy Gaiden: Seiken Densetsu.

[Anonymous No.6646702]

>>6641301
I felt Legend of Dragoon was better.

[Anonymous No.6646948]

>>6646396
I always wondered why they recycled red mage and black mage sprites, even though there were no FF games for the GB which means they had to make the sprites brand new.

[Anonymous No.6647375]

>>6646234
The post that saved /vr/

[Anonymous No.6648238]

>>6646034
It was just extremely popular, that's it. Revolutionary? Depends in what way it was supposedly revolutionary. Since monster catching and the like has been done years before Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.6648281]

>>6639387
based

[Anonymous No.6648306]

>>6629358
Of course that's entirely personal, OP.
For me, it was Dragon Quest VIII on the PS2.
It has everything I want on a JRPG,
>involving, interesting, alive characters
>OG cape and sword hero
>Get to a new town, cutscene, grind a little, go through town's dungeon, repeat
>Cool mounts
>Perfect OST
>Will take it's 80-100 hours to even finish the main quest
>Green, vast open world with the coolest mounts ever
>OG battle system
It just doesn't get more textbook than that and that's something I really admire myself.

[Anonymous No.6648894]

It's gotta be Chrono Trigger unless you're just a contrarian.

[Anonymous No.6648994]

>>6648894
I wish dumbasses like you would leave this board. Retarded statements like these leave no room for discussion. Bet you also believe there are "objectively good" games.

[Anonymous No.6648998]

The best rpg is Mother 3 for my favorite retro handheld GBA.

[Anonymous No.6651514]

>>6629367
FPBP

[Anonymous No.6652806]

>>6629367
Based

[Anonymous No.6652816]

>>6648994
>everything is subjective
Die.

[Anonymous No.6652821]

>>6629367
Ah, it feels almost nostalgic.

[Anonymous No.6653326]

>>6652816
did someone shit in your brain or what? How can you be this retarded? Liking things is inherently subjective. There's no point in arguing the opposite unless you're a braindead faggot.

[Anonymous No.6653843]

>>6631269
>Golden Sun
Are you high? The first one is as linear as it gets and the second one is a complete mess with how little it tells you. Airs Rock is a massive dungeon and it's also boring. And it's right at the beginning too.

[Anonymous No.6656047]

>>6629367
Holy BASED...!

[Anonymous No.6657412]

>>6631269
>>6646234
If Xenogears had been finished it might be the best, but as it stands it's among the worst.

[Anonymous No.6657541]

SaGa Frontier 2

[Anonymous No.6657546]

>>6629358

[Anonymous No.6657550]

>>6653326
Game tiers are subjective...but
Well crafted products can be objectively good. Even things like beauty have objectivity, despite what modern fags, dykes and the obese want us to believe.

[Anonymous No.6657573]

>>6632525
No, the GBC Grandia is a new game, not based on the original.

[Anonymous No.6657582]

>>6634368
It sounds like you want to play Elder Scrolls, not a JRPG.

[Anonymous No.6657601]

>>6629358
JRPGs are all pretty shitty.

[Anonymous No.6657630]

>>6657412
The 80% they did finish is still the best JRPG.

[Anonymous No.6657637]

>>6657630
>80%
There are at least 3 discs worth of content crammed into the second disc.

[Anonymous No.6657647]

>>6657601
But are they exactly equally shitty? The question is: which is the best?

[Anonymous No.6657650]

>>6657647
Not really in the habit of ranking my shits.

[Anonymous No.6657658]

>>6657637
There are 3 or 4 dungeons (whether playable or implied)? How many did the first disc have? I think it was in the ballpark of 16?

[Anonymous No.6657662]

>>6657650
Stop posting off-topic then please

[Anonymous No.6657684]

>>6657650
What don't you like about the genre? It's not for everyone but I don't see how you could argue that games like FFTactics or Alundra are objectively bad.

[Anonymous No.6659471]

>>6657582
While it's true that SaGa games often include more WRPG aspects (probably because it was heavily inspired by Nethack and Ultima IV) than most other JRPGs, it still has a few JRPG things that I like, mainly turn-based combat and these 16-bit, sprite-based graphics. I hate how most WRPGs either have real-time combat or RTWP shit, turn-based, imo, is just much better. As for the graphics, most CRPGs/WRPGs I have played always tried to look as realistic as possible and thus have aged badly. I heavily prefer a good, timeless artstyle over realistic graphics. Oh yeah, and JRPGs often have really good music while in WPRGs it's rather ambient. I probably like SaGa games a lot since they sort of combine what I like so much about WRPGs and JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.6659503]

>>6657550
something can be well-made and put a lot of thought into but not the "objectively" best game. It's pretty evident that there's been put more work into Chrono Trigger than Hoshi o Miru Hito, for instance, yet there are lots of SFC games that took a lot of work to produce. If you believe Chrono Trigger is the best among these high-quality games, then that's your opinion. There's no way to objectively prove a game being the best compared to others, and also no point in pretending that anyone who disagrees with you is somehow just being "contrarian". Either you discuss with people and come to the conclusion that it is all subjective or leave the board.

[Anonymous No.6659504]

>>6659503
He said game tiers are subjective....but that doesn't mean craftsmanship and quality are purely subjective.

[Anonymous No.6659512]

>>6657541
SF2 is criminally underrated. I probably would've preferred if it had been pretty difficult throughout (a bit like RS2) and not just at the end, but it's still very good.

[Anonymous No.6659551]

>>6659504
I see that, but his initial post was that Chrono Trigger is the objectively best JRPG and anyone who disagrees with that is a contrarian, which is why I find it a bit confusing how he suddenly seems to admit that game tiers are all subjective.

[Anonymous No.6659562]

>>6657541
I love the OST of that game

[Anonymous No.6659563]

I think the best is between DQ3, FFV and Romancing SaGa 2

I'm a sucker for job systems

[Anonymous No.6659569]

All jarpigs are trash

[Anonymous No.6659580]

>>6659569

[Anonymous No.6659595]

>>6657541
Such a beautiful game, great art direction (including the OST). My favorite retro JRPG, definitely

[Anonymous No.6659612]

>>6659580
Nice “meme”, fagcuck casual. You still can’t 1cc a shmup

[Anonymous No.6659642]

>>6659612
Dilate.

[Anonymous No.6659664]

>>6659580
That meme is unstoppable.

[Anonymous No.6659674]

>>6659580
POG!

[Anonymous No.6659675]

>>6659664
It's funny because it's true.

[Anonymous No.6659694]

>>6659580
>someone saved my old ass meme
Neat.

[Anonymous No.6659820]

>>6629358
The one I created when I was 12.

Jennifer Love Hewitt had a cameo.

[Anonymous No.6660235]

>>6657630
>dude I hope you haven't been using the female protagonist at all because we're going to take her out of your party right before the final dungeon lmao
No.

[Anonymous No.6660252]

>>6659694

>bruh deez niggaz rent free n shit nigga dabbin nigga
Your meme is trash, jarpiggie.

[Anonymous No.6660718]

>>6659820
Sounds based

[Anonymous No.6660731]

>>6660252
Absolutely s e e t h i n g.

[Anonymous No.6661846]

>>6659563
>I'm a sucker for job systems
my nigga

[Anonymous No.6661883]

>>6659563
Is DQ3 really that great when it comes to customization? I've always heard people say that they love DQ for its simplicity.

[Anonymous No.6661903]

>>6629358
Mega Man Battle Network

Only way it could be better is removing the random chip drops. It's perfect other than that.

[Anonymous No.6663152]

For me, it's Tecmo Secret Of The Stars A Fantasy

[Anonymous No.6663553]

>>6657546
The Absolute Shitty Game Of All

[Anonymous No.6663779]

>>6663553
Based, they hated Jesus because he told them the truth

[Anonymous No.6663981]

>>6659563
It's not retro, but you might like bravely default, since it's similar to ff5 in class structure.

[Anonymous No.6664154]

>>6659580
based

[Anonymous No.6664258]

>>6659580
big and true

[Anonymous No.6665278]

>>6638630
>realizing you've been playing the game wrong and having to start a new file is part of the journey