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Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:40:05 2020 No.6626259 [Reply] [Original]

Why the fuck hasn't Bethesda done a remaster of Fallout 1 & 2 for modern consoles or even a port to smartphones if they wanna be cheap assholes about it?
Better yet, why the hell have they not commissioned a 3rd party developer to make a NEW deep story driven isometric RPG like Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, Disco Elysium or others?

Maybe they can hire inXile, or maybe even Obsidi-ohhhhh wait...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 00:53:05 2020 No.6626296 >>6626259 Because its a shit game. They released the pc gold collection 15 years ago and that was all that was needed.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 01:30:33 2020 No.6626410

>>6626259
Interplay Entertainment sucks at preserving source code.
>Interplay asserted the source code for the older games no longer exists, but in the event of it being located, they would also be turned over to Bethesda.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks_LLC_v._Interplay_Entertainment_Corporation#Summary_of_terms_of_settlement

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:32:19 2020 No.6626537 >>6626259 Because those games run slow as molasses and are a serious test of patience.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:43:53 2020 No.6626564

Imagine trying to teach a zoomer how to get some random faggot game running on MS-DOS with the memory management and shit, and then getting them to learn some arcane interface and read a manual. Then imagine them dying like 20 times in the tutorial cavern and etc.

Why don't kids program Applesoft BASIC? I mean it's easy as fuck. But it's completely baffling to the zoomer. Even boomers figured it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 02:48:08 2020 No.6626571 you are more likely to get a remake of fallout 3 before the first two

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 03:20:11 2020 No.6626623 >>6626259 Because you can run it very easily on modern hardware still? What's the problem of just taking the GOG copy or whatever and playing that? I understand this is just a shitpost, but at least put some effort into it.

>>	biggunsgob00m Wed Jul 22 03:54:32 2020 No.6626672 >>6626564 hahaha.. so true!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:05:57 2020 No.6626806 >>6626259 People have a lower average IQ today compared to the 90's. You could blame it on many things, perhaps the immigration, but it's just the case. Games that require thought and patience are a no-no today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:31:00 2020 No.6626861 >>6626259 >why the hell have they not commissioned a 3rd party developer to make a NEW deep story driven isometric RPG Remember the fail called Fallout Tactics? That's why.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 06:44:52 2020 No.6627045 >>6626537 Yeah I wish these stupid interactive books would just hurry the fuck up and get to the point!!

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:10:40 2020 No.6627182
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To whom, exactly, would a remaster appeal? The thing that really dates fallout 1 & 2 aren't the graphics, it's the slow plodding turn based combat and unwieldy inventory system.

Don't get me wrong, I love Fallout 1 & 2, but for a new player, making it prettier won't do anything to make it more appealing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 08:16:53 2020 No.6627190 >>6626259 It makes me sad knowing that the original renders (and the assets used to make them) are lost to time. I don't even care about a remaster, I'd just like to see those renders in glorious high resolution.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:09:28 2020 No.6627268 i wouldnt give bethesda a dime even if i was a billionaire. im not even a obsidian fanboy. bethsoft just pissed me off with their bullshit over the last decade. but i'd pirate a phone version of fallout for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:12:28 2020 No.6627272 File: 28 KB, 500x375, 158927315790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6626564 >MS-DOS fallout 1 and 2 (GOG version) run right out the gate even on windows 10 though? and linux through WINE.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:23:15 2020 No.6627284 Because we have versions of 1 and 2 that run on modern hardware just fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:26:40 2020 No.6627287 >>6626259 Bethesda in 2020 hates anything with the slightest amount of complexity. That's why Fallout 4 has no stats whatsoever.

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:28:13 2020 No.6627289

>>6626259
because it's not how they want you to think of Fallout, nor do they want to put in the effort polishing the original games up. As soon as you see the potential for it to be anything more than a post apocalyptic minecraft loot shooter, they might be expected to put roleplaying, tactics, and decent writing and worldbuilding in their games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 09:41:08 2020 No.6627308 >>6626259 Bethesda can barely make their own engine which they developed themselves and know inside out work, why do you think they'll be able to reversengineer someone else's code?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 10:08:55 2020 No.6627350 >>6626259 because both games are tedious as hell and I just don't have the patience for them. that's why. Besides, we have the original games on steam anyways man, no need to make a remaster unless it has some serious issues... oh wait yeah it does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 10:19:12 2020 No.6627374 Bethesda is a steaming pile of incompetent shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:28:24 2020 No.6627680 >filtered by fallout 1 of all things Truly a brave new world out here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:55:28 2020 No.6627725 >>6626259 >NEW deep story driven isometric RPG >Pillars of Eternity >Wasteland 2 I want to know your dealer. He's selling some good shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 12:57:16 2020 No.6627729 >>6626410 >Company that isn't around for almost two decades "sucks" at securing assets Also, considering Bethesda basically rob them and breached the contract their had, suits everyone just fine

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:10:38 2020 No.6627757 >>6626806 >People have a lower average IQ today compared to the 90's. you're a fucking idiot. the average IQ is always 100, by definition

Anonymous Wed Jul 22 13:20:53 2020 No.6627785
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Because Bethesda loves to hijack a series, steal the brand name and create a totally different dumbed down game and market it to normie consolefags.
Look at what they did with Elder Scrolls.
Pic related is the only true Elder Scrolls game

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 14:02:21 2020 No.6627841 >>6627757 YEAH BUT IT'S A LOWER 100 IQ NOT AS GOOD AS THE OLD 100 IQ EVERYBODY IS RETARDED EXCEPT ME

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 13:14:38 2020 No.6630664

>>6627182
>slow plodding turn based combat

Does a remaster mean they can only upgrade the graphics and not the mechanics as well? I would like Fallout 1 and 2 remade with the same combat system as Tactics, which also involves making the companions controllable. Turn-based combat aside, your PC being unable to at least shout commands ("heal yourself now", "put that rifle away and switch to melee") at their companions was fucking ridiculous.

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 13:20:51 2020 No.6630687

>>6626259
Because that would require Todd to admit to himself he is not the most special brilliant auteur who really GETS Fallout. It would require him to acknowledge that scorned fans aren't just 'bunch of trolls' but people with legitimate grievances over direction that series took under Beth.

You're correct in that it would absolutely be a good business decision, and it would be really cheap to do since they could just reuse assets from Fallout 3/NV/4/76 and screencap them in isometric view. Low budget, high returns - perfect business decision. But it won't happen as long as Todd has major push at Beth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 13:22:21 2020 No.6630692 >>6627725 Oh please, compared to Fallout 4 they're fracking masterpieces.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 14:36:18 2020 No.6630928 >>6626259 >why the hell have they not commissioned a 3rd party developer to make a NEW deep story driven isometric RPG Cause Bethesda never did that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:05:24 2020 No.6631184 >>6630664 I think if you change the mechanics, it's a "remake." I think a "remaster" is just upgrading the production value in various ways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:06:26 2020 No.6631191 >>6627725 Wasteland 2 is quite good actually

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:06:32 2020 No.6631192 >>6630687 Fallout 4 > 3 > Vegas > 1 > 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 16:09:17 2020 No.6631206 >>6626259 >Why the fuck hasn't Bethesda done a remaster of Fallout 1 & 2 for modern consoles or even a port to smartphones if they wanna be cheap assholes about it? Interplay lost the source code and assets

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 02:05:20 2020 No.6632680 >>6627785 But daggerfall and arena were made by Bethesda

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 08:16:03 2020 No.6633087 >>6630692 Fallout 4 is a masterpiece in non-story driven gameplay though. Those 3 are just crap all around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 08:18:02 2020 No.6633092 >>6626259 Because unlike nintendie, bethesda doesn't give a shit if someone remasters their old games as long as they contain the original source code.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 08:38:17 2020 No.6633107 Because post-morrowind Bethesda no longer make roleplaying games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 11:08:53 2020 No.6633308 >>6631192 1>Tactics>2>>Vegas>>4>>>>>>3

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 14:34:58 2020 No.6633807 File: 23 KB, 250x88, Fallout2-P90.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yep, I'm thinking this weapon is based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 24 15:56:24 2020 No.6634078 >>6633308 Anyone that rates tactics this high is actually more retarded than any bethesda fanboy.

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