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I'M SAVESTATING THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THING ON AN EMULATOR AND IT'S STILL A GINORMOUS PAIN IN THE ASS.
HOW TF WAS A KID EVER SUPPOSED TO BEAT THESE THINGS

>> No.6608785

>>6608781
It could be done without a save state

>> No.6608791

>>6608781
Git gud

>> No.6608794

>>6608781
Git gud

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6608801

>>6608781
NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO REPLAY OLD GAMES 500 TIMES AND MEMORIZE THEM LIKE I DID. ZOOMER ZOOMER ZOOMER ZOOMER

>> No.6608812

it's gay, just beat the game, it's easier

>> No.6608840

Why are you using Sonic+Tails OP? Tails only saving grace in 2 is cheesing the (already relatively easy) boss fights. Switch out to just Sonic and you should have a much easier time on Special Stages.

>> No.6608995

>>6608785
you also get like 2 tries every stage.
>9 worlds x 2 acts × 2 goalposts =36 tries
only 7 emeralds

>> No.6608998

>>6608801
There's only 7 and the first few are braindead simple

>> No.6609000

>>6608781
Literally git gud. 8 yo me made it through, so can you.

>> No.6609001

>>6608781
>>6608801
Git gud, son

>> No.6609008

>>6608840
Thanks, I'll try that

>> No.6609038

>>6608995
>you also get like 2 tries every stage.
At minimum. Emerald Hills has at least 3 checkpoints in its two acts. You can get Super Sonic by Chemical Plant if you know what you're doing.

Hell, I just went back and did Sonic 2 + Knuckles and it's even easier. All of the ring requirements are lower with Knuckles, and you even get to keep your rings after doing the minigame.

>> No.6609065

You could do that soft reset trick and just get infinite tries using the first zone.

>> No.6609107

>>6608781
It's mainly just there because pseudo 3D was really cool in 1992. The bonus stages in Sonic 1 were much more enjoyable.

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>>6608812
>it's gay
Really? Well then I imagine YOU'D really like it.

>> No.6609126

>>6608781
Yup, a whole generation of kids beat those stages like they were nothing.
Are you dumber than a 5th grader, anon?

>> No.6609170

I remember hearing that you get a continue if you get all the rings in one of the special stages. It seems flat out impossible in any stage but the first and even then it looks like a nightmare.

It's now decades later and I have no idea whether it's true or not. Anyone know?

>> No.6609227

>>6609170
50 rings in a sonic 1 special stage got you a continue but not sure how they worked in 2... seems if you were good enough to get all the rings in the half-pipe, you wouldn't even need continues.

>> No.6609264

Jesus Christ. You can get all the emeralds before the end of Emerald Hill Act 2, how are you this shit?

>> No.6609361

Special Stage Tier List (Official 2020 update):
God tier: Sonic 1
...
Meh but kinda fun when you get a rhythm going: Sonic 3
...
POWER GAP
...
(keep going)
...
Absolute dogshit tier: Sonic 2

>> No.6609410

>>6608781
Its not really hard you just fucking suck zoomnigger

>> No.6609430

>>6609361
git gud

>> No.6609453

>>6609430
no u

>> No.6609863

>>6608781
That's why there are ~40 oppormuhtunities to get the fucking things. If you can't get seven tries out of ~40 right, you're really, really bad at things.

>> No.6609890

>>6609453
me gud, u do now

>> No.6609994

>>6609890
Says the person who sucks at the Sonic 1 and Sonic 3 minigames

>> No.6610034

>complains about the easiest to obtain chaos emeralds of the entire 16 bit sonic series

>> No.6610047

>>6608781
>HOW TF WAS A KID EVER SUPPOSED TO BEAT THESE THINGS
Play the game over and over for literately years.
Or get your brother to control Tails.

Getting Super Sonic without help was a big accomplishment.

>> No.6610049

>>6608781
decades after the fact I still have these down in muscle memory.
git gud

>> No.6610052

>>6608840
Tails only loses the rings HE gets though. If you're doing your part it doesn't matter if Tails bumbles through the Special Stages, hitting every possible bomb.

>> No.6610053

>>6608781
It was how they extended the life of these shitty games by making them as annoying as possible.

>> No.6610079

>>6609038
Emerald Hill has 3+5. Chemical Plant also has 3+5 but they're not as easy to find. Aquatic Ruin has 3+4, then finally the posts start to disappear when Casino gives you 2+2.

>> No.6610084

>>6608781
a simple little skill called "memorization". additionally, you could take notes and memorize from those.

>> No.6610086

>>6610052
Yeah, when you play well, Tails is a just a very light backup who can bring you a few safety rings. The absolute only thing you can't do is try to jump while getting hit by a ball. If you do, Sonic won't jump but Tails will, and then Tails is in front and its hard to readjust him towards the back.

>> No.6610090

>>6608781
>HOW TF WAS A KID EVER SUPPOSED TO BEAT THESE THINGS
Like this: Imagine being a kid and not having unlimited games and emulators with save states. You had a couple games to play and that was it. If you played this game ever day after school for 6 months to a year, you would beat it even if you were 8 years old.

>> No.6610517

But getting all the emeralds ruin Sonic 2 because you automatically activate Super Sonic when you jump

>> No.6610561

It's just a case of needing to get good. That's just how special stages typically work. You start off being really shit at them but then you learn more about them, memorize the patterns, and have a better understanding of the mechanics of it all and you are more likely to succeed. It's all a part of Sonic's core design being based around replay value.On a first blind playthrough you're gonna suck shit, but once you go back to the start of the game and run through it again with the knowledge you have from your first playthrough you can be faster, use the secrets you discovered to your advantage and get the emeralds. Sonic games were never meant to be played once.

>> No.6611791

>>6608781
I've never been able to get the 7 emeralds in the original version without save states, but the remastered iOS port is very doable since the framerate is better and you can use your lives to immediately restart if you fuck up.
The stages are definitely poorly designed though, since there are certain spikes you flat out cannot see coming over certain inclines, so you just have to remember they exist from previously hitting them. Not to mention how choppy the original version of the special stages were.

Definitely my least favorite special stages of the classic games.

>> No.6611804

>>6608785
stage select code gives you the Super Sonic powers without having to play this crap.

>> No.6611807

>>6610561
That's not how all the special stages worked in classic sonic though. I don't need to have played through Sonic 1 and 3's special stages to git gud, I just need to play well. With Sonic 2 there are certain special stages where you're literally not getting through without a heap of luck (making a blind jump at the right time despite lacking the knowledge that you're about to get hit) or having already failed and getting a second chance at the special stage.
With Sonic 1 and especially Sonic 3 & Knuckles, if you think on your feet and react to what the game is throwing at you, then you can feasibly beat every stage first try once you know the rules of the special stage, Sonic 2 fucks up by making certain hazards impossible to react to without knowing they exist.

>> No.6611815

Blue Spheres are the only special stages worth playing

>> No.6611817

>>6611804
>t. zoomshit

>> No.6611828

>>6610561
In this case you have to compensate for Tails being a retard or play with 2 people. Probably some game designer being an asshole and trying to force you to have 2 players to get the good ending.

>> No.6611839

>>6611817
>zoomshit

There have been codes in games since the beginning. Zoomers use hacks and trainers.

>> No.6612613

>>6608781
Having all the emeralds isn't really that big of a deal to begin with.

>> No.6613124

As a kid with infinite time you learn the layouts via trial and error repetition.

>> No.6613437

>>6611807
You're full of shit. In order to beat the 1 and 3 ones, especially later ones, you need prior knowledge of the layout. The Sonic 2 ones are way more forgiving.
You're literally complaining about having to play the game in order to get good at the game. the fuck is your problem?

>> No.6614097

>>6610052
Tails makes the ring requirement harder.

>> No.6614118

>>6613437
Sonic 3 ones are honestly perfectly doable blind.

>> No.6614318

>>6608781
whiny babbys with less attention span than a literal ADD patient from the nineties

>nooo don't make me memorize i should be able to 100% the whole thing in one sitting

You know what? I'll give you a little help: You don't have to collect as many rings if you play as Sonic alone, and even fewer if you play as Knuckles.

>> No.6614420

>>6609361
Best tier: Sonic CD

>> No.6614426

>>6614420
5 fps tier more like

>> No.6616053

>>6613437
He is right. the first time you play you will make blind jumps in the corners because it is impossible to know if there will be spikes or bombs around. Special stages are forgiving until 3 or 4, then starts to get "you need to memorize". Tails is also a problem, and most will choose Sonic & Tails the first time playing

1 can be done blindly. 3 only in certain instances you cant see what is coming and that is when you go through those bouncing spheres, but since 3 throws so many big rings is not a problem.
In 2 it gets annoying that thing of resetting the rings and having to collect all of them again to get another checkpoint.