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Which controllers have the best dpad?
picture obviously unrelated, it sucks ass and triggers the wrong directions most of the time

>> No.6602882
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>> No.6602883

>>6602882
is 8bitdo the only controller brand?

>> No.6602892
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>>6602876
for snes, this one!!
But it's region locked. So if you have a PAL console you need to replace the controller ports with SFC ports.
Hands down the tightest D-Pad.
The SFC modem controller is almost as good as this one, but not quite.

>> No.6603603
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>>6602876
I like really Hori's dpads.
The Pokken Tournament pad is my god to for emulation. But I've heard good things about their Fighting Commander. Looks like it's the same dpad.

>> No.6603606

>>6603603
*go to

>> No.6603625

>>6603603
The can vouch the D-pad is really good, but I personally dislike the shape of the handles.

>> No.6603684

The SN30 Pro+ has a decent d-pad. I use it over my other 17 controllers for that reason.

>> No.6603697

PS3 controller

>> No.6605074

>>6602876
>Which controllers have the best dpad?
M30. No contest.

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Did they ever fix (unwanted inputs) the d-pad on these? They seem to be a little newer?

>> No.6605137

>>6603697
Wrong.

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The best

>> No.6605158

>>6605139
not for sale anymore, why is that I wonder

>> No.6605165

you can fix the 8shitdo d-pad yourself, lots of youtube and reddit posts about it. If you already bought one you might want to look into it, simple mod.

>> No.6605168

>>6605139
>bluetooth
No thanks, enjoy your lag.

>> No.6605170

>>6605168
Any BT controller can be connected by a cord, retard.

>> No.6605171

>>6605168
There's probably measurable lag using bluetooth but not enough to seriously matter. I don't notice it at all.

>> No.6605637

>>6605139
Its retrobit. It will be the cheapest china crap known to man. Keep it.

>> No.6605647

>>6605168
Good Bluetooth controllers have lower latency than wired. This is factual. There’s also low latency Bluetooth adapters for only input that reduce latency just a tad more.

>> No.6605659

>>6605647
>lower latency than wired
That’s impossible

>> No.6605667

List of flawless dpads based on my personal experience:

NES controller
SNES controller
Saturn JPN controller
PS2 Dualshock
PS3 Dualshock

If you want to emulate just get a PS3 or PS4 Dualshock. These small companies like 8bitdo don't know what they're doing.

>> No.6605737

>>6605078
people have been telling me they don't have it on ones from last year, I got mine two years ago so I totally do have that issue

>> No.6605869

>>6605667
>PS3 Dualshock
https://youtu.be/V7z6rV9jLuI

>> No.6605879

Where can you buy usb adapters for console controllers?

>> No.6605882

>>6605659
Ps4 controller is faster on Bluetooth than wired.

>> No.6605907

>>6605879
Aliexpress, got that blue one for ps joystick, 4+ years and still working.

>> No.6605913

>>6605667
>sonygger
xbone controller is better than that dualshock garbage

>> No.6605924

>>6605913
I've never used one, that list is just my personal list and not meant to include everything. Although I am turned off by dpads that are in a "secondary" position like the xbox one's.

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i fell for the 8bitdo meme

>> No.6606343

>>6602876
I playfighting games, tony hawk games, and shmups, I have tried every fucking controller there is and nothing has ever come close to beating playstation DPAD.
DS4 is the best currently, DS1 and DS3 tied for second, DS2 kind of sucks due to the pressure sensitivity causing slight lag in the input latency, but I would take it over any non PS controller.

This is strictly dpad, but their analog is great too. 8bitdo would be perfect if their analog stick deadzones weren;t so shitty and disgustingly cheap

that'st just the way it is and don't believe anything else

>> No.6606408

>>6605165
>Why yes, I prefer to knowingly buy broken shit, what gave it away?

>> No.6606473

Test

>> No.6606589

>>6605950
The m30 is good. Only one worth a buy.

>> No.6606593

>>6606408
I didn't say to buy broken shit, I said if you already have it it's an easy fix.

>> No.6606646

>>6606593
do u need scrwdriver to do fix??

>> No.6606780
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>>6602876
It ain't perfect but it's the best catch-all PC gamepad solution I've found.

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>>6603603
This controller is god tier but I can't get the dpad to work with freeware games.

>> No.6607040

>>6606785
JoyToKey.

>> No.6607059

>>6607040
The final solution to retarded joystick support

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>>6607040
I can't figure out how to use it.

>> No.6607128

>>6605882
Because Sony fucked something up. That's a known Dualshock 4 issue, it has input lag even on the real hardware when wired. I doubt there's another controller with such retarded issue.

>> No.6607152

>>6607112
The general concept is it turns your joystick inputs into key presses. Set up your joystick in joy2key then set up the game to use keyboard controls.

>> No.6607175

>>6602882
It's what I use for Street Fighter V. Love this little nigga.

>> No.6607278

>>6605637
>retrobit bad
So that's why my "officially licensed by SEGA" Genesis controllers have such shitty d-pads?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P255V8J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also why is it so fucking hard to find the original 6-button Genesis controllers? You know, the ones that were actually sold by Sega in the 90s? Almost every listing on both eBay and Amazon is for Retro-Shit or some chinkoid knockoff.

>> No.6607286

>>6606785
>>6607112
Use antmicro instead

>> No.6607289

>>6606646
Yes and something to cover up the edges of the contacts on the d-pad sensors. Tape, those binder ring sticker things ("donuts"), the goal being reduction of sensitivity around the edges of the sensors.

>> No.6607387

>>6607286
It doesn't work. Curse of Issyos still doesnt detect the dpad.

>> No.6607403

>>6607387
This thing doesn't work with any locomalito freeware games while xbox360 and buffalo classic work fine. The dpad is fucked, and it's not broken because I tested the controller with pretty much every emulator and it worked fine.

>> No.6607446

>>6607278
retro-shit pads use flimsy, ultra cheap rubber bits underneath the d-pad and the buttons, thats why

>> No.6607486

>>6607278
I have two sega mega drive 6 button controllers in my bedroom cupboard right now that i bought back in 94. Still the most perfectly shaped and functioning control pads I've ever had.

>> No.6607490

>>6603603
this is my favorite controller on any system, and my go-to when emulating. face buttons are kind of shitty though- there's a lot of travel before they actuate, and you can actually push them down past the point that they "click" without registering a key press unless you push that last little bit. They're not inaccurate, but it can make certain games feel like there's a delay on jumping when there isn't. I've gotten into the habit of keeping buttons held 90% down, so I can rapid press them with barely any movement.

>> No.6607493

>>6607486
Why don't you go to bed, anon. It's pretty late there in Boston.

>> No.6607553

>>6607128
>>6605882
>>6605659
Serious question, why would a wireless controller necessarily have worse input lag than a wired controller? Bluetooth operates via radio waves which should surely propagate more quickly towards the console than electrons in a cable, but I guess it depends on the input/output devices receiving and sending the signal too. Are there any papers on this?

>> No.6607703

>>66075539
The implementation of the controller and the driver optimization matters more than physics sadly.
Note that I'm just talking about the ps4 controller being faster wireless than wired.
The fastest controller will always be wired.

See this test on misterfpga:
https://pastebin.com/raw/62uFuVgp

>> No.6607725

>>6607553
Interference

>> No.6607740

>>6607703
That is interesting, thanks. Especially interesting is how 8bitdo claims their Bluetooth dongles have 'no lag' but they perform substantially worse in this test, sometimes even with their own controllers. I use a SN30 Pro + myself on a rpi3b+ and although I haven't noticed much I've only really used it for RPGs so far.

>> No.6607752

>>6607703
At last there's some justification of existence from fpgay scene

>> No.6607764

>>6607740
Their m30 2.4 version wired has virtually no lag though. (Nearly 1ms wired and 5ms wireless which is still less than a frame.)

>> No.6608174

>>6607553
For the same reason an ethernet cable is faster than wifi

>> No.6608176

>>6602876
I wish they'd just make exact 1:1 usb replicas of the consoles controller wired and all. Why include analog sticks in games that wouldn't support them anyway, copyright issue?

>> No.6608651

>>6605171
then you're a casual.
Get GOOD at ANY game and then play it with a bluetooth controller vs. wired.
World of difference.

>> No.6608654 [DELETED] 

>controllers


>stolar


>x is best looking console


>sonic adventure games arent good


>sm64


>why didnt the dc/saturn succeed?


>kino


>mini console hacks


>psx


>zoomers


>off topic game from youtuber


>emulators