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6575730 No.6575730 [Reply] [Original]

Daily reminder that this series doesn't have a single redeeming quality and it's entire existence has been riding on the same shitty gimmick for over 20 years.

>> No.6575738

The movies are better than the games

>> No.6575758

>tryhard/10

>> No.6575763

>>6575738
movie*

Second one was shit.

To OP, originally the lore was cool, but MK3 onward kinda screwed that pooch.

>> No.6575770

>>6575758
Cope.

>> No.6575775

The whole blood/gore/grossout stuff of the 90s is probably the lamest worst shit to go back to.
Second to FMV if we're talking games.
And MK has both...

>> No.6575863

>>6575730
Now, maybe. But there was a time when this series had soul, and was fun and campy and free of identity politics, sadistic(non-comical) gore, and boring, forgetable, story and characters. You could tell the people making the old games were just having fun and really loved making videogames. RIP MK.

>> No.6575867

>>6575763
Yeah, once Outworld attacked Earth the overall story quality sank like a stone.

>> No.6575868

the game is still good

>> No.6575881

>>6575770
Have sex.

>> No.6575889

Wasting quarters to find out divekick was the only reasonable strategy sucked ass, but 2 player at home was where it was fucking at. Trading fatality inputs, codes, secret battles. People who didn't like at least one game in the series also didn't have friends.

>> No.6575896

>>6575770
Lol There's nothing to cope over, I don't give a hoot about your hipster opinions.

>> No.6575905

>>6575730
Shaolin Monks is clearly the way to go for the next game. Everyone loved that game and I think it’s personally the best MK product in general. Give the team a break from fighting games and let someone who loves all the classic lore and stories and make another game celebrating those aspects.

>> No.6575993

>>6575905
>Shaolin Monks
This holy shit
11 was bad

>> No.6576023 [DELETED] 

>>6575993
11 is proof that trannies can even adrenaline dripping series like MK where it's focused on scantily clad girls and dudes killing each other.

>> No.6576025
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>>6575905
>Shaolin Monks

>> No.6576026

>>6575993
11 is proof that trannies can even ruin adrenaline and test dripping series like MK where it's focused on scantily clad girls and dudes killing each other.

>> No.6576051

>>6575993
>>6576025
I say make it about Chameleon. That way, you can explain why this character had been around for the first 3 (4 maybe? Fuck it yeah let’s do it) games (A WARRIOR WHO HAS HID IN THE SHADOWS SINCE MK1 CHALLENGES YOU or whatever it used to say), then you get to give one character the powers and moves of ALL ninjas. Like Shaolin Monks you could do whatever with the story and let Chameleon kill whoever, or you could make it really good and not have Chameleon kill ANYONE outside if goons. That way it still fits in the story and you’re not retconning anything too crazy, plus you could establish Chamelon as a mysterious warrior that even the most powerful kombatants respect or fear. Let us wander around levels like SM did, but maybe interconnect them even better? And let us explore EVERY area we have ever seen. I wanna know where the fuck the Game Over spike pit from MK4 is. I wanna know what else is around The Pit 3. Ah it like that is why I loved the first one so much. All the wonder I had as a kid about these environments where these gory battles took place.
Hell make it even more RPG like and have it to where Chameleon earns his powers as he defeats the ninjas?

>> No.6576063

>>6575905
Love Shaolin Monks. Beat it with my only friend back in the day, and even nowadays when we manage to find the time to get together we'll eventually go through it again.

>> No.6576149

>>6575775
To this day I love live action FMV cutscenes, though.

>> No.6576273

>>6576051
>Hell make it even more RPG like and have it to where Chameleon earns his powers as he defeats the ninjas?
Sounds like Mortal Kombat Deception where Shujinko learned abilities from characters who mentored him. Deception, despite being part of the dark ages, had probably my favorite story mode just because it let you actually openly explore the setting. I'd love to see them do something similar agian.

>> No.6576276

>>6575730
Thats not true. MK had brilliant marketing.

>> No.6576319

I want to fuck frost

>> No.6576370

>>6576319
Not retro, get some of that retro ninja pussy

>> No.6576376
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6576376

You can only pick one, who's it gonna be?

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>>6576376
>You can only pick one
Maybe if you bought the PS1 version

>> No.6576453

>>6576376
Imma take Jade wit that brown ass

>> No.6576516

>>6575905
No

>> No.6576518

>>6576051
Gay

>> No.6576519 [DELETED] 

>>6576376
Not Jade because black women have no value.

>> No.6576520

>>6576273
NOT RETRO LEL

>> No.6576548

>>6575863
>series had soul
Opinion discarded

>> No.6576559
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6576559

MK II is the best fighter ever created.

>> No.6576562

>>6576559
Nope

>> No.6576931

>>6576548
Nah, it definitely had soul. Tobias put so much effort into the stuff with comic books and bios all of that pretty much went out the window once he left.

>> No.6577312

MK Trilogy is the best fighting game ever made.

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>>6576376
Was there really any question here?

>> No.6577382

>>6576376
I want Mileena to nibble on my dick

>> No.6577410

Still the best kharacter selection music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4pGCa8-wIg

>> No.6577459

Forget all the fussin' and a-feudin', I like Capcom and SNK fighters and MK2 is still a fuckin' jam.

>> No.6577462

>>6575730
MK sucks ass, but then again, an entire genre based around repetitive battles between two people using a limited selection of largely identical characters isn't exactly a recipe for quality to begin with.

IMO killer instinct gold was the better game for the time period.

>> No.6577550

>>6577459
Fuck off Erron.

>> No.6577627 [DELETED] 

>>6576376
Definitely not Jade because negro women have no value.

>> No.6577636

>>6577627
>negro
She's not even human, anon.

>> No.6577637

>>6575730
Scorpion is a badass character. There's a redeeming quality for you. Argument destroyed.

>> No.6577641 [DELETED] 

>>6577636
Negroes aren't human either my dude

>> No.6577649

>>6575730
I think the ps2 games are some of the most fun fighters to play singleplayer
But anyways the old games were all about the lore and mythology and rumors surrounding them, it was a "you had to be there" kinda deal almost like an ARG.

>> No.6577874

Sounds like someone needs to up their game and “git gud”. OP probably couldn’t beat the game and is bitter about it.

>> No.6577882

>>6575905
A few weeks back I took out my PS2 and my Shaolin Monks saves were there. Loved that game, had a save on the final boss. Didn't remember the controls but managed to beat Goro, but Shao Khan was too much.
Armageddon also had a similar mode to that, but I think the best single player in a mainstream Mortal Kombat game was in Deception, where it was free roam with Shujinko. I think a lot could also be done with that idea

But MK has hit a lot of success with its current formula, so I don't really see it changing. Boon used to tease a Shaolin Monks remaster but nothing came of it

>> No.6577970 [DELETED] 

>>6577627
She is a shitskinned asian you cumskinned retard

>> No.6578059

>>6577970
pajeet pls

>> No.6579148

https://archiveofourown.org/series/1805197

>> No.6579162

I hate how MK continues to embrace stiff character animations. MK1 through Trilogy had to have stiff, riggid animations due to taking snapshots of real people for their sprites, but from MK4 and onwards they've had no fucking excuse. They could've smoothed things out but NOOOOOOOOO, they have to keep making it like the old games. It's so fucking stupid.

I understand that it's a little unfair to ask MK to change when Street Fighter, Tekken, and the like have all remained mostly the same, but I really feel like Mortal Kombat always wanted to be a smoother game from the get go but were forced into what they do to do. I look at gameplay for MK11 and it's fucking gross how bad the character animations are.

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6579192

MK is based and has been making tryhard faggots like OP seethe for over 2 decades

daily reminder that MK has sold more copies than street fighter ever will

>> No.6579896

>>6575730
Probably. Never felt like buying new ones. I don't mind it existing tho

>> No.6580010

MK1: bang average (The Altered Beast of 1on1 fighters)
MK2: Great
MK3: MK2 + more gimmicky stuff = less
MK 4: If you have an N64 it's a solid Fighter
Everything else: Lost interest after MK3.

>> No.6580091

>>6580010

lemme fill your blind spots since i entirely agree with your ratings

MK Gold: same as MK4 but for dreamcast
MK Deadly Alliance: awkward reboot trying too hard to distance itself from classic MK, not fun
MK Deception: same engine as DA but slightly better in terms of character selection and gameplay, still bad but a step in the right direction
MK Armageddon: completely overboard with content to the point where it's a diluted mess with over simplified characters and gameplay. the low point of modern MK
MK9: a really well executed reboot. best MK since 2 which exceeds it in many ways. the best competitive MK ever. all great characters return, good fatalities, great stages and game modes. this is where MK peaked in my opinion
MKX: feels like MK9 but more gimmick heavy. adds some cool characters and the general style is good but gameplay is not as good as MK9.
MK11: gameplay somehow becomes even MORE gimmicky. weird graphical style that divides fanbase. probably the weakest of the post-reboot MKs

>> No.6580103

>>6575730
bad dragon?

>> No.6580139

>>6580091
>MK Deadly Alliance: awkward reboot trying too hard to distance itself from classic MK, not fun
Deadly Alliance was more in tone with the older MKs than anything there after (baring Shaolin Monks)
Also had some of the best tracks of the 3D era MKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56IHIfhvgU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KDN4HJZ4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBZViaUMbh4

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>>6575993
>>6576025
>>6576063
>/vr/ is shaolin territory
perfect

>> No.6580863

>>6580091
>MK Deception: same engine as DA but slightly better in terms of character selection and gameplay, still bad but a step in the right direction
Nah, son. Deception is a straight up bad game that is way worse than Deadly Alliance. I'd say this is where it really started to show that Midway had learned nothing at all and was just doing the same stupid shit they always did. They cut almost every character from Deadly Alliance for "story reasons" and then haphazardly cut-and-pasted the fighting styles from other characters that were in Deadly Alliance across all of the new characters without properly checking to make sure they worked or functioned properly. Then, instead of fixing the gameplay problems, they decided to double down on gimmicky shit such as literal mini-game modes (Chess Kombat and Puzzle Kombat) and gimmicky stages that had ringout fatalities, which only ended up annoying the fanbase because they could happen in-between rounds. None of the new characters are likeable, introducing boring concepts like Orderrealm and Chaosrealm ("lul one has LAW AND ORDER and the other has CHAOS AND ANARCHY get it dewdz") and were so haphazardly done they suffered from "Ketchup and Mustard" names and stories like Sektor and Cyrax did right up until a month before it went gold for shipment. The only worthwhile thing about Deception is that it introduced Konquest mode, which was great for fans of lore, but the actual mode looked like shit in the face of pretty much every other action adventure game at the time. There's more stuff too I could get into like Shujinko not living up to the hypetrain and combo breakers being an after thought but yeah, fuck Deception and fuck anyone who thinks that game is good.

>> No.6580865

>>6576548
Not sure why they needed to make an even gayer meme than "kino" but they have been incredibly successful with doing so.

>> No.6580881

>>6580863
Anon I like Deception
Konquest was good for a fighting game story mode, kind of shows how MK always tried to do more with its single player content than other fighting games, like they did with MK9 and found a lot of success with. It's one of the only times you can actually explore all the realms that are constantly spoken of in MK lore.
Also I liked Chess Kombat so screw you, some gimmicks can be fun.
I can give you the core gameplay being poor though

>> No.6581085

>>6580865
Yeah terms like 'soul' and 'kino' were annoying at first but have become quite useful in weeding out people who have nothing of value to actually say. As soon as you see either you know the person typing is worthless.

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>>6581453

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>>6581460

>> No.6581590

>>6576376
MK3 Sindel or Sonja. Hell, Sheeva'd be fun for a weekend. Forget the Ninjettes.

>> No.6582018

>>6581453
>>6581460
>>6581462
>>6581590
See: >>6579148

>> No.6582061

None of the MK games are good fighters and the 3 modern titles are only somewhat competent. MK11 is the best fighter but also happens to be the most boring.

As a ZOOMER who got into classic figthing games at an older age, there is just nothing good about classic MK. I can understand how people back then might've thought it was badass and cool but objectively, compared to the fuck ton of other arcade FGs, MK is easily one of the worst.
Literally only nostalgia goggled retards and people who haven't even tried other FGs think it's ever been a good fighting game.

>> No.6582098

>>6577874
a game series can be good or bad regardless of your ability to beat the games, Anon

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>>6581085
Omg! So much Soul and so Comfy! Pure Kino!!!!

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Life bar go br

>> No.6582146

At least the last few games are thought of as competent fighters, funnily enough, by copying japanese fighting games and adding mechanics from them.

Never really cared for them and find the old games more charming, but then again, i am a weak man when it comes to gore, some of the newest fatalities just make me sick looking at them.

I prefer the more cartoony aspect of MK2 and 3 really, and 1's fatalities are still much better to look at than some of the modern stuff.

>> No.6582159

>>6582115
>>6582132

Yeah. Just like that.

>> No.6582456

>>6582061

>MK11 is the best fighter

and into the trash your opinion goes. you know nothing about fighters if you think this is true