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I'm trying to get into shooters. Gradius Gaiden is my favorite so far. What do you guys recommend? Like really essential stuff, and which versions are the best? Also none of the wacky stuff like Parodius; I like space and alien planets and sci fi themed ones the most, but historical seems interesting too.

>> No.6564378
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6564378

Border Down, the best shoot em right of all time. It lets you have Dragonball Z laser battles with bosses and gives you lots of points for it to boot

>> No.6564462

I've been really liking Darius Gaiden
I also keep trying to get into R Type with Final and Delta because they look cool as hell, but they kick my ass

>> No.6564474

>>6564345
> Like really essential stuff, and which versions are the best?
Essential for a new player trying out the genre, or essential for a veteran?

>> No.6564495

>>6564378
opinion dismissed

>> No.6564507 [DELETED] 

dude

>> No.6564526

>>6564495
Did you forget your greentext or what

>> No.6564601

>>6564526
No, you opinion is shit. Already horribly dated 3D graphics, niche gameplay-system, inconsistent difficulty. The only saving grave is the soundtrack and even that doesn't reach the greats of the genre.

>> No.6564607

>>6564601
Posts this bad should be a permaban

>> No.6564634

G-darius
Armed police batrider

>> No.6564651

>>6564601
>niche gameplay-system
The fuck does this mean? Can you elaborate?
>inconsistent difficulty
Meaning what? The game has multiple routes and a rank system which you can directly control via suicides that don't cost you lives, you're more or less in charge of the difficulty curve. It becomes inconsistent when scoring because of some disproportionate boss milks but that's hardly an exclusive problem, or even a big problem. Would you rather have the stage 3 milk followed by an even more brutal boss near the end of the game so your runs get even MORE inconsistent?

Absolute fucking retard

>> No.6564656

>>6564651
>anon discovers the /vg/ discord shmupg retards
They literally don't play

>> No.6564672

>>6564656
Nah anon fuck off with that boogeyman nonsense. I was a regular /shmupg/ poster myself when it was still alive. This kind of random, unwarranted trash talk by non-players is very characteristic of /vr/ and has been for the past 5 years at the very least.

>> No.6564706

>>6564672
There were a few actual players in there true, but the ones that made it awful have permanently migrated here it seems

>> No.6564737

I love all kinds of shmups. Console shmups, arcade shmups, classic 80s stuff like Galaga... it's nice to just turn on a game and start blasting sometimes, and this is coming from a JRPG fan. As for essential recommendations, you can't go wrong with the Gradius series or anything by Psikyo or Toaplan.

>> No.6564761

>>6564378
AHAHAHAHA...no.

>> No.6564780

>>6564706
The lack of players was never the problem unlike on /vr/, the lack of gameplay discussion was

>> No.6564784

>>6564737
The "rivalry" between shmups and jrpgs only exists in the minds of mentally ill /vg/ retards

>> No.6564825

I like R-Type. Look into that series.

>> No.6564892

>>6564345
Batsugun
Dodonpachi
Dodonpachi Daioujou
Battle Garegga
Touhou6

Try and find shmupmame with the roms

>> No.6564951

IKARUGA

>> No.6564957

>>6564345
Why not play cotton anon?
And try out a Sharps x68000 emulator, best shmups around

>> No.6565353

>>6564892
You're gay

>> No.6565358

>>6565353
>getting mad someone is talking about shmups in the shmup thread

>> No.6565442

>>6564345
Tyrian 2000 (it's freeware and runs fine on win10)
Einhander (PS1)

try those out.

>> No.6565461

>>6564378
I love border down but I'm bat at it, 3 lives isn't enough :(

>> No.6565510

Guwange

>> No.6565512
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>>6564784
Bless the shmupg community for bullying JRPGtrannies because they don't play skill-based videogames.

>> No.6565518

>>6565461
You're thinking about it all wrong the game has no lives, you can hit the score threshold and border up after a death

>> No.6565579

>>6564345
Darius games, especially Gaiden and G-Darius (and modern Burst) are great fun with lots of path selections and shield power-ups making them more forgiving than most shmups.

>> No.6565607

>>6565512
This is exactly the kind of awful post the /shmupg/ non-player faggots would make, good thing no one would seriously post something that stupid

>> No.6566235

>>6565607
He has a point though
Do you even play shmups?

>> No.6567590 [DELETED] 

Bump

>> No.6568484

>>6564378
I like Metal Black more, but Border Down is a pretty good spiritual successor.

>> No.6568498

>>6564345
You'd probably like Ikaruga and Radiant Silvergun, assuming you haven't played them yet. They're by the same team as Gradius V.

>> No.6568518

>>6564345
Try Einhänder, it's on the PS1 too.

>> No.6568758

>>6564345
Darius gaiden for its good music

>> No.6568827

Not retro but Gradius V is the best horizontal shooter I've ever played. If you like Gaiden, pick up V

>> No.6569274

>>6564345
Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvo4FJiKA7w

>> No.6569601
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>>6564957
when's that damn remake coming out, for fuck's sake. Zero fucking news for months now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoWKAseSLCY

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6570735

Too much shilling of Trashure's shitty games going on ITT.

>> No.6571374

I'm sorry, but bullet hells are fucking trash and a separate sub genre. Stop recommending them.

>> No.6571379

>>6569274
https://youtu.be/tA9ZTaAgrvk

>> No.6571420

>>6570735
But their games are good lol. I've only seen Ikaruga mentioned anyway (good game).>>6571374

>> No.6571426

border down stinks

>> No.6573081

>>6571426
at least it's not caveshit. or treasureshit.

>> No.6573119

>>6571374
Nah they pretty much dominate the genre, if you ain't playing bullet hells then you probably aint playing shmups

>> No.6573932

>>6573119
>if you ain't playing bullet hells then you probably aint playing shmups
Yeah because "shoot em ups" are all about evading a screen full of punk dots than shooting

>> No.6573941

>>6573119
>they pretty much dominate the genre
let me guess you listen to the most popular pop music too

>> No.6573947

>>6573932
t. cant into scoring

>> No.6573950

>>6571420
>replying to australia-kun

>> No.6573971

>>6564462
Apparently R-Type Final is disliked by fans but I devoured that fucking game.
I got obsessed with unlocking everything and it never felt like a grind

>> No.6573979
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6573979

>>6564345
This

Lightening Force (Thunder Force IV)

Even though the dude from the ads was sort of memed, Gaiares is sold as hell.

Speaking of memes, Zero Wing (the All Your Base game) is actually pretty fun too

Also Wings of Wor, Lords of Thunder, Phelios

Hellfire is supposedly good but...I dunno. I dont like it

>> No.6573981

>>6573947
t. loser
everyone who scores danmakus is certified loser

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6573987

I've been singing this game's praises ever since I tried it randomly, sight unseen.

So goddamn fun and tons of character

>> No.6573991

>>6573981
Case in point, if youre hostile towards scoring then youre a poser who doesnt play shmups desu

>> No.6573997

What was that one on Dreamcast where you had to deliberately let the enemy bullets graze you?
That one was wild but it kicked my ass

>> No.6574012

>>6573991
oh you're a certified loser? hit a nerve?

>> No.6574018

>>6573997
Psyvariar, the new one Psyvariar Delta is a bit better.

>> No.6574020

>>6574012
Damn with this attitude I bet youre a real success, making six figures traveling around the world banging hot chicks and not a mediocre nobody like the rest of us

>> No.6574027

>>6574020
The average mediocre person, with a normal job and wife, is miles ahead of autistic neets who score danmakus, that's a fact

>> No.6574036

>>6574027
Oh so you ARE a nobody like the rest of us, what a surprise. Look at the fucking unwarranted sense of self importance on you. I miss being a neet desu had more time and energy to spare for my hobbies

>> No.6574060

>>6574036
>Oh so you ARE a nobody like the rest of us, what a surprise. Look at the fucking unwarranted sense of self importance on you.
the autistic neet fears the average man.
get a life, loser.

>> No.6574085

Every time I come into one of these threads, I feel like the same games are never mentioned twice as being "the good ones", it's always a whole new host of games every thread

>> No.6574098

>>6564345
>DoDonPachi
>RayStorm
>Gley Lancer
>Einhänder
>Progear

>> No.6574101

I am gay I like to stick my dick in men's assholes

>> No.6574885

>>6574085
There are a lot of games youll see in every thread like your Dodonpachis, Battle Garegga, a Gradius, a Darius, a Thunder Force, probably Rayforce too. But there is a huge number of different, high quality shmups out there many of which remain obscure because theyre jp only arcade/dreamcast releases or something

>> No.6574929

I'm trying to get more into the genre recently and have noticed that I tend to prefer vertical shooters over horizontal ones. Anyone with a lot of genre knowledge have anything to say about the design philosophies at work in both types? I can't quite place my finger on why I prefer vertical yet.

>> No.6575132

>>6574929
Depends on what kind of verticals vs horizontals you've been playing. Generally speaking, the vertical screen orientation makes bullet reading feel more natural. Besides that there are other design differences like an absence of terrain letting you focus on moving and shooting, enemies mostly coming from 1 direction, and more. If you're playing modern verticals they will be easier to get into because the smaller hitboxes and slower bullets will make flailing more effective and make the games feel more consistent in their challenge. In horis you have to start memorizing levels very early, and there are a lot of fast, sudden attacks which are hard to react to the first time you see them. Though the latter apllies to old verticals too.

>> No.6575617

>>6564345
Trouble shooter is one of my current favorites

>> No.6575885

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2WYx04TGzQ