/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6554709]

are these good for retro games? not sure if the wireless adds input lag or something.

[Anonymous No.6554713]

Disgusting faggot.

[Anonymous No.6554721]

>>6554709
it works ok but the d-pad kinda sucks and is in an inopportune position for 2d games

[Anonymous No.6554726]

>>6554709
Xbox 360 dpad is often considered as one of the worst dpads ever designed. Take this info as you want.

[Anonymous No.6554728]

>>6554709
Not really. It's a great controller for thing that focus on the analog stick, but it's d-pad is loose and shitty which will make most retro games infuriating.

[Anonymous No.6554734]

>>6554721
>>6554726
>>6554728
what would you recommend for 2D games? hori?

I have an old PS2 controller with an adapter but the d-pad is kinda busted and does diagonals really easily when you mean to just go down

[Anonymous No.6554736]

>>6554721
>>6554728
The dpad is alright when you don't play competitive Street Fighter. It's not like the Super AIDS of d-pads and perfectly fine for a casual snes session. But the best part is, it doesn't add any bloat drivers to the OS like DualShock or Switch solutions.

[Anonymous No.6554743]

>>6554734
The dualshock 2 or 3 are perfect imho.

[Anonymous No.6554745]

>>6554709
It's okay as you don't use that awful d-pad. Even on modern games that shit has absolutely no accuracy.

[Anonymous No.6554752]

>>6554745
okay as long as*

[Anonymous No.6554761]

>>6554736
>it doesn't add any bloat drivers to the OS like DualShock
only the ds3 has that problem

[Anonymous No.6554803]

>>6554734
I use a madkatz brawl pad when playing 2D stuff on 360.

>>6554736
To be fair, fighting games are easily 90-95% of the 2D games I do play.

[Anonymous No.6554809]

>>6554803
I'd rather have something multipurpose than having to change controllers when I feel like playing a game with analog controls, but this looks nice

[Anonymous No.6554810]

I've just been using the logitech pad for years.

[Anonymous No.6554818]

>>6554734
Most people swear by the Hori Fighting Commander for its great D-pad and a button layout that suits both SNES and Genesis emulation.

[Anonymous No.6554830]

You can mod the 360 dpad by padding it with something like folded paper or whatever. Then it's pretty good actually, nice and clicky.

[Anonymous No.6554873]

>>6554830
seriously lol, why bother? Just buy a decent fucking controller.

[Anonymous No.6554882]

>>6554809
Fully understandable. I'm semi serious about fighters and when I get into one tend to play it mostly so in the end it's not all that much switching. I have used a hori and it did feel nice (a little tighter) but I've been happy with these.

[Anonymous No.6554884]

Forget about the d-pad, the face buttons are ultra hard, not sure if they're analog but they require full pressure for them to register, I prefer to use a PS3 pad even thought the analog sticks are of inferior quality.

[Anonymous No.6554906]

>>6554873
If he has a 360 controller laying around it would be retarded to buy another controller instead of quickly modding something he already has for free. With the mod the dpad is quite good and it's free.

[Anonymous No.6554917]

hows the xbone controller? apparently that works on PC too

[Anonymous No.6554926]

>>6554709
no 3D? get a retrobit or 8bitdo genesis controller. 3D needed? look into 8bitdo's sfc30/sn30 pro; those have analogue sticks. consider the ones with handles (ive never used them but using the analogue sticks without handles sounds uncomfortable)

[Anonymous No.6554929]

>>6554917
D-pad isn't really improved, just different.

[Anonymous No.6554931]

>>6554917
It’s good. I personally like it but I prefer the powerA GameCube controller

[Anonymous No.6554937]

>>6554926
looks ugly as sin but as long as it gets the job done

[Anonymous No.6554939]

>>6554926
i forgot to mention; you might like the retrobit saturn controller better as its a bit bigger. the genesis 6-button is surprisingly small

[Anonymous No.6554952]

>>6554726
It's better than that of the Genesis

[Anonymous No.6554975]

>>6554952

[Anonymous No.6555128]

>>6554709
I prefer playing Wipeout on emulator with an xbox controller because the game requires alot of input from the L/R buttons and the original dualshock gets uncomfortable pretty quickly.

[Anonymous No.6555131]

Just use the real controller idiot

[Anonymous No.6555181]

>>6555131
He's obviously emulating and most retro controller to PC adapters are shit

[Anonymous No.6555183]

>>6554709
The d-pad is shit, if you manage to get one without defects, that is.
Mine knocks on the sides, which means I have to apply a lot more pressure than I should to get it to actually register.

[Anonymous No.6555185]

>>6555181
So buy a retro controller that has a usb.

[Anonymous No.6555201]

>>6554937
I have that one. Its nice, autism aside.

[Anonymous No.6555209]

>>6555131
>>6555181
Where can I get a:
>NES usb controller
>PCengine/tg16 usb controller
>Sega master system usb controller
>SNES usb controller
>Sega genesis 3 button usb controller
>Sega saturn usb controller
>PSX USB controller
>Neo Geo USB controller
>Dreamcast USB controller
that doesnt suck ass and wont break the bank?

[Anonymous No.6555223]

>>6554709
I've had two of these. A white wired one and one black wireless.
I'm convinced the black ones have a slightly improved d-pad. It's like they heard about the pringles lid trick and built it into the design.
It's still not great, sometimes I'll press up or down when I don't want too. But I've finished games like Super Meat Boy and Celeste with it.

I guess what I'm saying is if you just want it for 2D games, then no.

[Anonymous No.6555257]

>>6555223
bare minimum I want from a controller
>being able to do a double tap in the d-pad without wanting to kill myself
>when I press down, it's down, not down-right/down-left

my current controller is so battered and old it cant even do that

[Anonymous No.6555274]

>>6555209
>Sega genesis 3 button usb controller
on ebay, you can buy the 3-button controllers that shipped with the genesis mini. they're pretty decent all things considered, but i wouldn't pay more than $20 for them
>Sega saturn usb controller
retrobit's line has you covered
>SNES usb controller
8bitdo on the high end, retroflag (and maybe exlene) at the mid-range, and innext at the low-end
>PSX USB controller
buy a (real) used dualshock 1 or 2 off ebay and get a cheap adapter

[Anonymous No.6555278]

>>6555257
I just tested with Kirby, and double taps were fine.
But like I said before, it's possible to press a diagonal when you don't want to. It's not super common, but it happening at all is a bad sign.

[Anonymous No.6555297]

This will piss people off, but this is the best pad for emulation.

[Anonymous No.6555310]

>>6555297

Does that... uh, well it's not a d-pad, but that thing where a d-pad should be... does it have any tactileness at all? I can't imagine playing a shmup with that.

[Anonymous No.6555313]

>>6554736
If you use the more modern Dualshock 3 drivers (bthps3 + shibari server) I wouldn't really consider it bloat anymore. The old ones were total shit and almost impossible to remove. You were lucky to even get them working. Also you had to "sacrifice" a USB bluetooth adapter to get it working. With the new ones it works with any bluetooth adapter and you can still connect other things to it.

[Anonymous No.6555331]

>>6555297
>concave controller

[Anonymous No.6555335]

>>6555310
Yeah its very clicky

[Anonymous No.6555354]

>>6555310
It has haptic feedback. Even though you’re touching it, it gives you a physical sensation that makes it feel like it has a 3D shape.

>>6555335
If you’re actually clicking the physical button, you’re using it completely wrong. Think of the physical button as the button behind a joystick - for special actions.

[Anonymous No.6555379]

>>6555310
It mostly just feels like your thumb is vibrating when moving across the pads. The thing is a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6555415]

>>6555379
>vibrating

Can... can it make me cum if I put it up my ass?

[Anonymous No.6555416]

>>6555415
No because anon is bullshitting you. Haptics are not the same as vibration motors.

[Anonymous No.6555426]

>>6555416
>>6555379
It does have a normal rumble motor. The haptic buzz when your thumb glides is weird

Best thing about it is the grip buttons, essentially r1 r2 r3 l1 l2 l3 now. Good for modern games. Keep your hands on the sticks for moving and looking and your can use your fingers nicely. Only need to touch face buttons for rarely used actions.

I dunno, I cant get I ok the 'dpad' either.

[Anonymous No.6555428]

>>6554810
the logitech 310 is based even if there's no rumble and the face buttons click loud as fuck

god, anyone member saitek controllers? i swear, decent off-brand pc controllers were a dime a dozen you could find in any electronics section just like a decade ago. and now it seems like there's literally nothing besides the like one controller logitech makes anymore and bumfuck-quality rando chinese shit from amazon

[Anonymous No.6555525]

>>6554709
Just get an Xbox one controller.

[Anonymous No.6555528]

>>6555525
>Just get an Xbox one controller.

[Anonymous No.6555542]

[Anonymous No.6555545]

>>6554709
poor compatibility. Only works on PC and xbox 360

[Anonymous No.6555550]

>>6555542
Dislike. 4 plays better as bluetooth. I had to get crazy hacked drivers for 3 to work

[Anonymous No.6555567]

>>6555550
bluetooth has lag, all you need is some old scp toolkit drivers, it takes a minute to install and works well.

[Anonymous No.6555587]

>>6555528
Not an argument.

The dpad is fine, and it has enough versatility to emulate all /vr/ approved systems. It works from everything from NES to Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.6555595]

>>6555587
the d-pad should not be misaligned from the facebuttons, *especially* not for 2D games; cringe humour image related
>It works from everything from NES to Dreamcast.
not on anything but PC and xbox; if we're talking emulation, then literally any controller with at least four face buttons, two shoulder buttons and a single analogue stick does the job. id rather use the saturn 3D controller to be brutally honest

[Anonymous No.6555603]

>>6555595
>used more in shooters(all xbox has)
thats objectively wrong though.
after DC died I had an original xbox(duke) and later a 360
all i played were RPGs western and eastern, shmups, platformers, retro collections

i dont like the playstation layout at all. even in psx days i didnt like the dpad and the fact they stuck with that is laughable. their ps3 triggers were absolute abominatons.
playstation controller was always so unnatural feeling

[Anonymous No.6555610]

>>6555603
the playstation d-pad is bad, but that's unrelated to its placement
>their ps3 triggers were absolute abominatons
agreed; im not defending anything of the dualshocks but the layout
>thats objectively wrong though
i didn't make the graph, but i agree with it; shooters don't use face buttons nearly as much as they do the second analogue stick for camera movement. why shouldn't both thumbs be aligned more often than not?

[Anonymous No.6555612]

>>6555595
>the d-pad should not be misaligned from the facebuttons
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.6555615]

>>6555610
because its more comfortable for them to not be aligned

[Anonymous No.6555616]

>>6555567
scp toolkit is absolute shit and you shouldn't tell people to use it unless you hate them.

>>6555550
See my post back here: >>6555313
https://forums.vigem.org/topic/362/playstation-r-3-peripherals-unofficial-bluetooth-drivers-bthps3
https://forums.vigem.org/topic/357/bthps3-post-setup-instructions

SCP Toolkit is deprecated. It's a piece of shit that hasn't been updated in years. It has issues with newer installs of Windows. It doesn't work with fake dualshocks. It requires you to "sacrifice" a usb adapter to get it to work. It sucks ass and should never be mentioned again because the last guy to work on it already replaced it with something entirely superior. Forget it ever existed.

[Anonymous No.6555631]

Only if it's an official Microsoft controller, which you will not find for under $80.

Heres two of mine, one is real, one is a chinkshit knockoff with horrible jerky analog movement and D-Pad. Can you tell?

[Anonymous No.6555638]

>>6555631
For that kind of money you might as well get a 360 along with your controller for your troubles.

[Anonymous No.6555668]

>>6555631
You just get an xbone pad instead.The only thing the 360 pad did better is maybe bumpers?

[Anonymous No.6555685]

>>6554709
It doesn't. No more than what USB and the OS normally add. Test it for yourself wired and wireless variants. You'll find the same results.

[Anonymous No.6555690]

>>6555612
elaborate
>>6555615
for many 3D games, sure. but not for 2D games, which make up the bulk of what's defined as "retro" at the moment

[Anonymous No.6555848]

>>6555595
I like the layout of the 360 pad more than the dualshock, it just has a shitty designed dpad. I hate Sony's in a different way though.

[Anonymous No.6556058]

>>6554709
I guess, I just use the snes 2.0 controller.

[Anonymous No.6556076]

>>6555616
God your breath reeks of smegma.

[Anonymous No.6556083]

>>6556076
Your post was useless and added absolutely nothing to the conversation. If you are daydreaming about people sucking cocks perhaps >>>/lgbt/ is more your speed. Bye faggot.

[Anonymous No.6556128]

>>6555616
>scp toolkit
Works fine, been using a PS3 controller with a USB cable for years. Even works after I updated Windows 7 to 10.

[Anonymous No.6556160]

>>6556128
It works on my old laptop but when I bought a new one and tried to do it again I had a horrible time. I struggled with the install on the old one too. It's shit. I'm much happier not needing a USB Bluetooth dongle to do it. It's pointless to use one when you already have Bluetooth built into your computer. Not to mention the issue with fake dualshocks. I had to use a patched driver to make those work and that added even more jank to an old abandoned piece of shit that won't let you install it unless you bypass all of Microsoft's safety nonsense they added into newer releases of windows 10. The only thing I've had a shittier experience with was that chinkware motioninjoy.

[Anonymous No.6556221]

>>6555567
Lag is bullshit. Tbh I play in steamlink and never have a real problem.

Bluetooth processes its stack so quickly you're not even picking up a whole frame of lag. Usb2 would be no faster. Anyway

[Anonymous No.6556234]

>>6554734
just open up the PS2 controller and replace the rubber pad under the d-pad. You can find replacements super cheap on ebay. If the replacement pad is too high (i.e makes the d-pad too stiff/rigid) then just use fine sanding paper (or rubbing paper, whatever its called) to remove some height from the top until d-pad action is perfect.

[Anonymous No.6556250]

>>6556160
Yes the install is the complicated part if you don't know what settings work for your setup, it took me around two installs and uninstalls to make it work. First time it was hours because I didn't know what causing it to not work, it's not as streamlined as it seems.

[Anonymous No.6556254]

>>6554709
how do you even connect them to a pc, I thought they used some proprietary RF crap instead of Bluetooth. Do you need a separate USB dongle or something?

[Anonymous No.6556775]

>>6556250
>complaint: ps3 sucks because of stupid driver bullshit
>naw use ps3 just install this driver
>3 people now arguing about driver bullshit

Just use ps4, it actually works.

[Anonymous No.6556806]

>>6555631
Top is real and bottom is fake. Unless it's also real but with third party analog sticks .

[Anonymous No.6556826]

>>6554931
Nice non analogue triggers

[Anonymous No.6556845]

>>6555631
>that hairline

[Anonymous No.6556897]

>>6555631
>not being naked while taking pictures of highly reflective objects
You had one job

[Anonymous No.6557009]

I had a 360 controller for years and years then decided to get an xbone controller.

I liked the 360 better, and I'd say if you find one in good condition get that. Thoughts on xbone:
>The overall controller feel is nice and heavy
>The face buttons are more clicky and noisy than I like
>The DPAD is full clicky, I don't like this. This is ok for FPS games where you press the dpad to change the weapon, but playing platformers on that clicky dpad is awkward
>The home button is mushy and needs a full press for it to register. Tedious if you have assigned the home button to some functionality like savestate. -- The 360 home button is fine
>The shoulder buttons are more clicky than the 360, and
>The analogs are triggers are great, step up from the 360.
>Everything else is a step down.

But, It is one of the few controller that still support AA batteries, which is a PLUS for me,
>You'll never play with a wire, because you just change the batteries and continue playing
>Batteries don't last forever, and their capacity drops over the years

[Anonymous No.6557496]

>>6554709
If you can find it for a decent price, the wii u pro controller is great for 2d gaming. Right now official controllers cost over 150 bucks for some reason (don't get chinese knock offs).

[Anonymous No.6557595]

>>6556775
The PS3 controller actually works as well if you use the new driver. The "works on my machine" guys will lead you astray though. Unless you still use Windows 7 there's no reason to spend hours struggling with the old one.

[Anonymous No.6557683]

>>6557009
With rechargeable batteries you can be cordless forever, which is great. Much better battery life than dualshock 4 as well.

[Anonymous No.6557704]

>>6555616
So if I want a PS3 controller, where should I get one? Is there any knock-off that's any good? In particular I would like pressure sensitive buttons that allow me to play MGS2 and MGS3 on PCSX2.

[Anonymous No.6557712]

>>6554734
I recommend Hori. They are good and cheap.
After I got used to my Hori controllers, I can't even return to my 8Bitdo ones.

[Anonymous No.6557718]

>>6554709
Dual action. The D pad is comfy and the thing actually works.

[Anonymous No.6557725]

>>6557704
For pressure sensitive buttons you will need scp toolkit. I don't recommend using a knockoff in that case. Find a real ps3 controller in good condition or just buy a dualshock 4 instead.

[Anonymous No.6557752]

>>6557009
I tough that clicky was good

[Anonymous No.6557864]

>>6557725
So I guess SCP Toolkit isn't entirely deprecated if that's the only thing that does pressure sensitivity. I don't mind having to permanently assign a Bluetooth USB adapter to it, I don't use Bluetooth for anything else, and I have like 10 USB ports. Though, it's my understanding that DualShock 4 doesn't have pressure sensitive buttons, so it would have to be DS3 or bust. Question is where to get a real one in good condition, as the market seems to be flooded with fakes, while pre-owned and refurbished are something of a roulette.

[Anonymous No.6557896]

>>6557864
Find one locally. eBay is a shit show due to the sheer number of fakes.

[Anonymous No.6558667]

>>6557896
Okay, finding one locally shouldn't be impossible in a city as large as Chicago. I wish I could get a new one, but that has to be like finding a unicorn at this point. Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.6558697]

>>6557752
there is a point, where it gets TOO clicky

[Anonymous No.6558706]

>>6556806
Bottom is real, you can tell because the "grip" dots on the stick make a +, on the fake they are a "square". Of course they have probably corrected this on newer fakes.

[Anonymous No.6558867]

>>6554709
The Gamestop version of the Xbox 360 wired controller is ok imo for retrogames. All buttons, and especially the dpad, seem more clicky.

The dpad is something that grows on you, u must get used to it.
I also really like the ds4 dpad.

I suggest to stay away from cheap 3rd party and chinks. You are probably just gonna waste money on useless dpads.

[Anonymous No.6559525]

>>6555595
>all xbox has
you know the xbone controller is the default windows controller too, right?

[Anonymous No.6559535]

>>6557752
The Xbox One clicky is godlike to me. I used this thing to beat Castlevania III.

[Anonymous No.6560137]

>>6559525
you know i didn't make the image, right?

[Anonymous No.6560143]

>>6560137
oh, so you just posted a disingenuous infographic for fun. gotcha.

[Anonymous No.6560145]

>>6556221
>Lag is bullshit
using a ps3 dualshock with bluetooth has more lag than usb there's nothing you can say that will change that

[Anonymous No.6560149]

>>6560143
no, i searched for an image that would get my basic point across, and the best one also happened to have shitty jokes and a flawed claim about xbox's catalogue. but no sure, call it disingenuous in its entirety.

[Anonymous No.6560909]

>>6555631
top is real. the finish on the fake ones has an "orange peel" texture to it. I used to refurbish these as a learning exercise using OEM parts only but no one was willing to pay a fair price for a refurbished OEM xbox 360 remote.

Buying them broken for $10 a pop and only being able to sell them for $19.99 because that's what the fakes go for is not sustainable.

[Anonymous No.6561530]

I've been fond of this, good for most games.

[Anonymous No.6561839]

was using a Xbox One controller, for retro (and LOL NOT RETRO) games, but now I'm getting a ton of stick drift in the left analog stick, did some research and apparently its a very common problem. many games are completely unplayable with this happening.
so I got pic related coming soon. it had good reviews, hope it lasts, I've gone through so many fucking PC gamepads in my life...

[Anonymous No.6561845]

btw FUCK YOU Microsoft, can't believe I paid 60 bucks for a controller that didn't even last a year before going to shit

[Anonymous No.6561856]

>>6557718
I had that one but the cord shorted out
my fault for wrapping the cord around the controller for storage

[Anonymous No.6561876]

>>6554917
it works well
>until one or both of the analog sticks shit out on you, inevitably just after the warranty period expires

[Anonymous No.6561886]

>>6561845
Which controller? My original 360 still works fine and I've had that for like 11. years now.

[Anonymous No.6561917]

>>6561839
d pad is shit, can be fixed with a bit of modding

[Anonymous No.6561945]

>>6561886
Xbox One.
google "Xbox One controller stick drift" and you'll see what I mean. it's very common

[Anonymous No.6561947]

>>6561917
>d pad is shit
how so?

[Anonymous No.6561959]

>>6561886
>>6561945
https://www.classaction.org/blog/microsoft-hit-with-class-action-over-alleged-stick-drift-defect-with-wireless-xbox-one-controllers

[Anonymous No.6561964]

>>6555631
they're both chinkshit, where the fuck do you think Microsoft makes their controllers? in the USA? lmao

[Anonymous No.6561965]

>>6561839
I have one of those without the handles. Having no handles makes the sticks essentially useless, but it's not like I really use it for anything that uses the sticks anyway.

I kinda have a love hate relationship with it. If I use it with my switch, I get horrible input lag in some games but not others. Connected with USB to my PC it works fine. I have the weird mayflash many controller connector thing and it used to work find wirelessly with that but then it just stopped connecting.

I still like it overall though.

[Anonymous No.6561971]

>>6561965
I'm going to be using it for NES/SNES/Game Boy/N64/PlayStation emulation.

>also Game Boy Advance, PlayStation 2, and modern PC games that suck with keyboard/mouse LOL NOT RETRO

[Anonymous No.6562051]

>>6554709
I use an Xbone controller and it works fine since the d-pad is actually good.

[Anonymous No.6562669]

>>6554937
>>6561839
convex vs concave buttons?

[Anonymous No.6563140]

>>6557718
I have this. The square holes for the analog sticks make it hard to move straight

[Anonymous No.6563271]

>>6555631
bottom analog sticks are on correctly at least, guessing that's the real boy

[Anonymous No.6563275]

>>6561530
Looks a lot like the dpad on their Switch joycon which I generally like but is a touch stiff for long play sessions

[Anonymous No.6563314]

>>6554882
Does it work on pc? Is it dinput?

[Anonymous No.6563527]

>>6563275
Yeah its the same dpad but its a little rubberized compared to their joycon

[Anonymous No.6564930]

>>6563314
What the fuck is that dpad.

[Anonymous No.6564939]

>>6564930

[Anonymous No.6564941]

>>6564930
seems like some retard thought the joycons' "d-pad" was good and decided to put it on a controller.

[Anonymous No.6565983]

>>6564930
Someone probably just didn't get that the reason the joycons' d-pad was just buttons is because each joycon could be used as an independent controller. There's no reason to replace the d-pad with such buttons unless it's being used as a replacement for ABXY, which it clearly is not.

[Anonymous No.6566008]

>>6565983
>replace
>>6564939

[Anonymous No.6566225]

>>6554810
>>6555428
I've had Logitech for more than ten years and it still works perfectly. I don't know how you would consider the DPad since I don't play platformers, but when it comes to durability they are hard to beat.

[Anonymous No.6566242]

>>6555616
>made by a gay autistic furry just like SCP
>have to keep that server running the whole time
Yikes
Just get a mayflash adapter bro, it's 100% plug and play since it emulates a X360 controller, and you can also use your Wii and Wii U controllers with it if you have them.

[Anonymous No.6566298]

>>6566242
You can run it as a service but I choose to open the server when I want to use it anyway. That way when I close it the controller will disconnect and the battery won't run down. Just about everything related to this is going to be made by a gay autistic furry or someone equally mentally deficient. Who else would take on a task like this when there's no financial gain involved?

[Anonymous No.6566308]

>>6554709
Buy one of the $10 wired xbox ones on amazon
they're functionally identical and don't need to charge or have batteries replaced or have a huge battery pack on them

[Anonymous No.6566492]

What is this and how do I get one?

[Anonymous No.6566505]

>>6566492
a concept art
you don't

[Anonymous No.6566506]

>>6555542
this with pic related. never had an issue.

>>6555545
Ps3 controller has better analog and a better dpad.

[Anonymous No.6566529]

>>6554709
I have two of pic related one 4play and one single and i use a dual shock 1 controller with it. its basically perfect really low latency, up to 4 players, any controller you want to play with, and you can set up profiles for each port. played through the entirety of symphony of the night with it. Unfortunately they no longer make the 4 play version but they still make the single player version highly recommended.

[Anonymous No.6566535]

>>6566505

[Anonymous No.6566550]

>>6566298
>Who else would take on a task like this
I have my answer >>6566506
Chinese will do it if you give them $20 for what you could do with a generic $2 adapter and software made by a weirdo autist.

[Anonymous No.6566590]

>>6566550
and it just works anon

[Anonymous No.6566593]

>>6566590
As does the bluetooth adapter already built into my laptop. I didn't have to spend another dollar to make it work either. Just 5 minutes of my time.

[Anonymous No.6566640]

>>6554709
The 360 controller needs a proprietary wireless adapter and/or a proprietary usb adapter to work with PCs.
The PS3 controller works over USB and can be set up over bluetooth but that's a pain, also its drivers pretend that it is a 360 controller so you can get compatibility issues

[Anonymous No.6566648]

I thought there was an official Sony driver for the DS3 as part of their online streaming service.

[Anonymous No.6566652]

>>6566648
Only USB, not bluetooth.

[Anonymous No.6566659]

>>6566593
nice

[Anonymous No.6566902]

>>6566505
th-they're gonna make it right?

[Anonymous No.6566967]

Here's what I've been using:

x360 - shit dpad, bulky, cringeworthy asymmetrical design, squeaky triggers, buttons and thumbsticks are unpleasant to use in long gaming sessions due to shit materials. Only redeeming quality is rumble, it's p good

DS3 - excellent ergonomics, all buttons are analog (which is required for proper emulation of some games in rpcs3 and pcsx2), lightweight, short battery life, scp toolkit is a bug ridden bloatware mess

m30 - superb controller for anything that doesn't require an analog stick, can be great for some games requiring 1 stick as well

I wanna buy a replacement for DS3 and been looking at sn30 pro+, but judging from reviews its ergonomics is a mixed bag, are there any alternatives? It has to support bluetoth, both xinput and dinput

[Anonymous No.6566974]

>>6554709
>that d-pad
Why did so many people respond? This 75% zoomer board needs to be purged.

[Anonymous No.6567298]

>>6554709
I got a good controller for 2d games but what's a good one for 3d games? Xbone has horrible stick drift so that one is out.

[Anonymous No.6567312]

>>6566967
Dude how can you even stand ds3?
The 360 controller is probably the pinnacle of controller design

[Anonymous No.6567313]

>>6566640
360 controller doesnt need anything proprietary to work with pcs. What are you even saying

[Anonymous No.6567585]

>>6567313
he is talking about this thing.
but yeah, he is wrong about the usb side of things in the sense that wireless 360 controllers have no way to communicate via usb, but you still need the charge and play cable to charge the battery (unless you use AA).

[Anonymous No.6568026]

>>6566967
>pcsx2
Did they implement the button pressure thing?

[Anonymous No.6568037]

>>6567312
surely you mean the pinnacle of everything wrong of how a controller is designed
>>6568026
like 5 years ago maybe? it works via 3rd party input plugin

[Anonymous No.6568056]

i have one with a cord and might be an ever so slight lag.

[Anonymous No.6568316]

My weapon of choice for most console emulators is the pokken controller. This thing feels great to use.

I'd still like to get a proper 6 button controller but I'm just not happy with anything really.

[Anonymous No.6569983]

>>6554709
i use the wired one, it has better rumble too. Nice controller. That's for 3D games of course, for 2D, the keyboard is perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.6570062]

little cheap nes like usb controller worked good.

[Anonymous No.6570096]

>>6554709
>>6569983
Me too. Fast response for emulators, dpad isnt as shitty as people make it

[Anonymous No.6570113]

>>6570096
if the alternative is a playstation style dpad then i think id rather take the xbox style.

[Anonymous No.6570154]

>>6554709
sucks for n64 emulation at least for ocarina of time

[Anonymous No.6570208]

>>6561947
its not on the sn30 pro+
there was an issue with the dpad on the older controllers but they fixed it

[Anonymous No.6570382]

>>6554709
Get an SN30Pro+

[Anonymous No.6570387]

how good are the adapters to usb? is there a lot of lag/functionality loss?
psx to usb and n64 to usb

[Anonymous No.6570626]

>>6570387
FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.6571297]

>>6570382
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6571412]

>>6554709
I have one, they are ok if you don't mind a mushy d-pad, really the xbone controllers are so much more ergonomic and are natively compatible with windows (as opposed to having to buy a separate adapter) so i'd suggest to just get one of those instead

[Anonymous No.6571418]

>>6554709
i don't know why people shit on the d-pad but it's because they have tiny manlet hands

[Anonymous No.6572292]

>>6570387
please respond

[Anonymous No.6572338]

>>6555631
I can tell you're One ugly fat Motherfucker

[Anonymous No.6572346]

>>6554709
get yourself this one

[Anonymous No.6572372]

>>6554736
Dualshock 4 is really good in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.6572378]

>>6555631
Which one is fake?

[Anonymous No.6572387]

>>6572378
The one with the tackier surface...right, anon?

[Anonymous No.6572447]

>>6560909
>The real one is the one with the sticks bumps rotated the wrong way
Real controllers get that glossy finish if you have sweaty hands. I know because all my controllers look like that after a year. I hope you didnt repair too many controllers.

[Anonymous No.6572487]

I'm still using my Wii U Pro controller with a Mayflash wireless adapter and it's been damn near perfect for me. It's been years though and I'm thinking of getting a replacement. A new Wii U pro controller seems to be out of the question now, so I was thinking of going for a DS4, how good is that?

[Anonymous No.6572498]

whats the best controller for 2D games you've used? im considering either pokken controller or retro-bit saturn controller.

hows the input lag on all this stuff through an emulator? how much input lag would using an adapter to just use the real controller?

[Anonymous No.6572551]

>>6554709
honestly just pick up a "Logitech Precision".
plenty of buttons for all your retro console types, and the best D-pad ive used for an easy plug and play gamepad for PC/Raspi.

>no analogue sticks
NOT RETRO REEEEEEE!!!!

[Anonymous No.6572580]

>>6572551
>no 6 face buttons
reeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.6572616]

>>6572498
I'm using the retro-bit 8 button Genesis pad and it's the best controller I've ever had for 2D games. The dpad is excellent, extremely responsive, playing Fighting games with it is an absolute breeze. No technical issues, just plug and play, no button failure etc. If they release a version with dual analog sticks I would never need another controller.

[Anonymous No.6572630]

>>6572580
has 4 shoulder buttons, just use 2 of those instead

[Anonymous No.6573871]

>>6554709
Everyone keeps saying modern wireless has no perceptible lag, but it is tough for my old brain to understand how it could beat out direct connections. As for 360 controllers, the old default ones I had trouble consistently hitting a cardinal direction as I want to. It'll interpret the input sometimes as a diagonal briefly which is my main knock on it. The ones with the transforming D-pad are better for me, but their durability is kind of shit, as the D-pad starts cracking from the pressure of your presses and the internal spring leaving just the stem. I have utilized the warranty on the transforming D-pad controllers so many times as it starts to crack even in 2 weeks of use, but sadly I found that D-pad while still inaccurate, superior to the original stock 360 controller's d-pad (in all manners except durability).

My preference for retro games is a symmetrical design which keeps the d-pad and buttons on the same axis. I thought the Wii-U pro controller layout would have been ideal for console FPS and adaptable to emulation of older titles, all it needed were analog triggers for racing.

[Anonymous No.6573896]

>>6554709
The dpad isn't great and is in kind of a stupid position, but unless you're trying to play street fighter or something else that requires rapid, precise directional inputs in sequence, you'll be fine.

Personally I view Playstation controllers as the gold standard, and I'm saying this as someone who hasn't owned any Playstation console other than the original.

[Anonymous No.6573940]

>>6557009
did you get one of the s ones?

they toned down the clickiness a lot on those

[Anonymous No.6574662]

>>6572630
>>6572630
Lame

[Anonymous No.6574775]

>>6554713
no u

[Anonymous No.6574859]

>>6573871
>how it could beat out direct connections
Of course it doesn't, but you need a fucking atomic clock to notice the difference.

[Anonymous No.6575935]

>>6554709
the d-pad left me pretty frustrated on streets of rage! it doesn't feel very d-paddy to me. ps2 gameware controllers has d-pads similar to megadrives- easy to do quarter turns for fighters.

[Anonymous No.6576136]

Is six face buttons and two sticks too much to ask!?
There's got to be a good one like that, right?

[Anonymous No.6576146]

>>6572551
lol, this is what I used when I was like 14 and could only spend 10 bucks on a controller. you can do better, anon.

[Anonymous No.6576464]

Used a 360 controller for years and loved it. Have a ds4 now and hate the analog sticks on it. Though, that's only for some games/systems. Sucks for doom and other shooters.

[Anonymous No.6576627]

Some Xcocks One controllers frequently have poor analog stick modules in them, where the springs wear out and can't be replaced. If you're playing it once a week or more, it will probably wear out in a year.

[Anonymous No.6576674]

>>6574859
>Syncing up my 400fps camera to WWV to make a youtube demonstrating bluetooth input lag

[Anonymous No.6576692]

>>6557009
I personally just cannot use xbone controller for a really specific and autistic reason, the B button.

All the face buttons curve slightly to match the curve of the controller even on the 360, but on the xbone controller the B button is like sunken beneath all the other buttons because it's matching the curve too hard, and the buttons being uneven like this feels like shit to me. This graphic I made to show what I mean isn't exagerated at all I was looking at my 360 and Xbone controller side by side while making it. Shame too because Xbone controllers feel so much better otherwise, 360 triggers are uncomfortable as fuck, but they're buttery smooth on Xbone.

Also I agree with you on batteries, replaceable batteries should have never been phased out as at least an option and I'm glad Microsoft is still doing it even into the XBX. They can always offer rechargeable battery packs instead.

[Anonymous No.6576694]

I use a corded ps3 controller and had no complaints so far.

[Anonymous No.6576903]

>>6554709
I've got a Power-A wired 360 controller that I very much enjoy. Dpad is way better than the OEM one

[Anonymous No.6576924]

>>6555595
>This meme picture again
You know no one uses both joysticks at the same time right? Because that's incredibly retarded

[Anonymous No.6576926]

>>6555631
>Only if it's an official Microsoft controller, which you will not find for under $80.
WTF? I can easily find one right now for under $20

[Anonymous No.6576932]

>>6557009
>>6576692
Personally I couldn’t stand the XB1’s cheaper feeling face buttons, it’s rarely mentioned but they are way LOUDER when pressed, and it’s thus really hollow cheap clacky sound. These days I’m partial to the Switch Pro controller (for games that don’t use the dpad as primary control), but I prefer the 360 to the XB1 because of those damn buttons.

[Anonymous No.6576936]

>>6576924
Have you ever played a first person shooter? Plenty of genres don’t but there are those that do. Not that I think it’s a relevant argument to stick placement but there’s games that use all layouts, minus dpad plus right stick which I don’t believe is ever used.

[Anonymous No.6577148]

I hate the dual shock way of doing sticks. it feels weird. Wii U Pro did it best

[Anonymous No.6577352]

>>6556058
based

[Anonymous No.6577791]

>>6576924
>calling analogue sticks joysticks
wow thats funnier than it should be
but no, *you're* incredibly retarded if you think no games use both sticks at the same time, because like >>6576936 pointed out, every first person shooter since 2001 has used both at the same time for 90% of the game.

[Anonymous No.6577905]

If you're going to get a 360 controller, watch out for fakes. Most of them labelled as new are just fake these days, especially on eBay

[Anonymous No.6578648]

Playstation controllers are the gold standard. You really can't go wrong with a Dualshock1 or 2. They've lasted the test of time and have all of the buttons. Just get a $5 usb adapter and you're set.

[Anonymous No.6579440]

>>6576936
>First person shooter
>Controller

[Anonymous No.6581073]

The newer Xbox One controller has a MUCH better D-Pad for retro games.

[Anonymous No.6581083]

if i plug in a modern usb3 controller into a usb1 port and then try to emulate a game on a crt, how bad is the input lag?
>>6581073
I agree but I think the triggers on the xbone are worse.

[Anonymous No.6581545]

>>6579440
Fps games on consoles killed gaming

[Anonymous No.6581919]

>>6571418
no, it's because it's a floppy piece of shit in a awful position, retard. Never used a real dpad in your life?