/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6552327]

>PVMs.
>CRTs.
The toys of a child. You have taken the rear projector pill, haven't you /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6552335]

I hate these fucking ugly hunks of junk so much

[Anonymous No.6552340]

Enjoy the input lag, faggot

[Anonymous No.6552343]

>>6552327
>larger than a CRT
>input lag
>dimming over time
>almost impossible to get rid of

So why was this good?

[Anonymous No.6552349]

>>6552327
Enjoy the 5 degree viewing angle

[Anonymous No.6552351]

>>6552327
i love projector screens
at this point it feels like the people who shit on them are just poser zoomers.
I do all my gaming on one of these. its fucking cool

[Anonymous No.6552352]

[Anonymous No.6552358]

>>6552352
Yeah, that image is accurate to screen quality on these things.

[Anonymous No.6552371]

>>6552327
i member playing both Killer Instinct on Snes and GoldenEye on N64 on Costco on one of those things, and it eventually you could not see shit in those things cause the screen will burn and everything just become a black hole of toasty picture quality.

rear projector tvs were s mistake, i often saw people dumpin these sets over the years to the trash in my city, no joke.

[Anonymous No.6552434]

>>6552371
>no joke
As if we wouldn't believe that these aren't worth the living space they take up. Anon you card.

[Anonymous No.6552498]

>>6552349
>needing any viewing angle outside of straight on.
fucking pleb.

[Anonymous No.6552556]

>>6552327
Rear Projection TV is easily the worst image I've ever seen on anything. Straight garbage.

[Anonymous No.6552601]

>>6552556
>He never owned a top of the line Mitsubishi or Sony.

[Anonymous No.6552605]

>>6552327
I want to know how good it feels to kick in the screen.

[Anonymous No.6552623]

>>6552601
Except I do have a FV300 and HX850.

[Anonymous No.6553394]

How can these be so bad when standalone crt projectors were so good?

[Anonymous No.6553669]

>>6552498

The outside areas of the screen are outside of optimum viewing angle so you lose brightness uniformity even at 0%. One of the drawbacks of the tech.

[Anonymous No.6553681]

One of my friends in high school had one of these things in his room and I could not for the life of me convince him that it wasn't a CRT. Fucker played his PS3 on it and it looked awful.

I think his parents wouldn't get rid of it because it was too big to move so he just deluded himself into thinking it was good.

[Anonymous No.6553695]

>>6552327
Had one, but wasn't allowed to. Parent was too protective of their tv at the time to allow any video gaming on it.

[Anonymous No.6553734]

>>6552327
>>6552335
>>6552343
>>6553695
>>6553394
my dad bought our family one of these in 1997. Cost about $4000 then, and weighted 350lbs lol. He wouldnt let us play ANY games on it because he was worried about burn in. It wasnt until over 10 years later when I finally was able to use the s-video ports to play n64 and sega and i realized i wasnt missing much.

[Anonymous No.6553735]

>>6553734

[Anonymous No.6553864]

>>6552340
>>6552343
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.6553926]

>>6552371
>m.jpg
phoneposter.

[Anonymous No.6553930]

>>6553735
Not too bad, really. Doesn't seem to have the geometry and convergence issues most CRTs will have by this point.

Those issues are fixable but you have to open the damn thing up and do it yourself, risking electrocution as well as totally fucking up your set.

[Anonymous No.6554083]

>>6552327
I have 2 of these things in the basement in good condition. Impossible to get rid of.

[Anonymous No.6554091]

>>6553735
Looks beautiful.

[Anonymous No.6554701]

I wouldn't use one for gaming, but I enjoyed using my friend's 52" RCA to watch stuff. It's a 4:3 one and its pretty good for watching movies on VHS and older anime. You can actually have the thing on the other side of the room and be able to see it unlike the majority of CRT TVs. Several of our CRT sets had better overall picture but no where near the size.

[Anonymous No.6554832]

The final redpill is realizing plasma tvs were the best after all

[Anonymous No.6555098]

>>6554832
Real shit?

[Anonymous No.6555575]

>>6552340
if it's a CRT projection TV, then there is no input lag dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6555578]

>>6553735
bonus points for having a picture of one. negative points for Genesis over RGB and showing that waterfall not being blended, hahaha. Man I miss having my projection TV....

[Anonymous No.6555658]

>>6552498
It's almost like you don't have friends

[Anonymous No.6555661]

>>6553864
Shut up. No one but pre-gaming boomers ever liked or bought these.

[Anonymous No.6555664]

>>6552351
Come on now. Even as a teenager in the 90s I would see these at someone's house and wonder why in god's name anyone would buy this.

[Anonymous No.6555665]

>>6554832
based

[Anonymous No.6555669]

>>6553735
Nice extreme vignette and utter lack of color and light uniformity there, dipshit. I hate this thread. I know it's bait, I know the positive responses are trolls, but I hate even pretending these are good.

[Anonymous No.6555675]

So when do we get the Royale equivalent of the poorfag friend's dank big screen TV shader?

[Anonymous No.6555734]

>>6555578
fine here's the composite version. happy now?

[Anonymous No.6556125]

>>6555661
Explains why a zoomie like you knows so little about them

[Anonymous No.6556143]

>>6554832
God damn right. Heavy, expensive and prone to failure, but they produced an unparalleled image. I miss mine so much.

[Anonymous No.6556163]

>>6556143
Dat power consumption though, my 42 inch Panasonic Viera uses nearly 400 watts. Still though it's from 2008 and runs perfectly. According to its manual it should still have another 65,000 hours of panel life left. Doubt.jpeg

[Anonymous No.6556367]

>>6555669
I know. I wasnt lying when I said I was underwhelmed by the picture. the only thing it has going for it was the fact I usually played on a 15" TV in the back room and seeing he picture on 60" was nice.

[Anonymous No.6557438]

>>6554832
I have two Panasonic plasmas. The 42" 720p one gives a great picture on 5th gen and 6th gen consoles. The 50" 1080p one looks terrible with any retro console and I can only use 7th gen and upwards on it.

[Anonymous No.6557746]

>>6552327
Got like a 45' or some bullshit in my house you're welcome to it.
Weighs like 600 pounds left behind by the assholes before I moved in.

One of these Tuesdays it's getting the hammer and crowbar treatment.

[Funcoland Pops No.6557763]

>>6553394
Because their guns are much much dimmer. I have a rear protection TV who's guns have about had it and I have an actual projector. I would consider pulling the guys out and replacing them with the standalone but I suspect it would burn in the surface in like two minutes. I honestly don't understand what those screen are made of that burns so bad when you can make a rear protection screen out of a fucking shower curtain

[Anonymous No.6557771]

>>6557746
I lied it's a 51 inch monster.

[Anonymous No.6559729]

>>6552327
Doesnt every single 6th gen manual say not to play on a rear projection tv?

[Anonymous No.6559939]

>>6559729
Yes

[Anonymous No.6560427]

>>6559939
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6560543]

>>6554832
SED and FED were the superior slim format TV but never came to market because of licensing lawsuits. Abolish intellectual monopoly laws

[Anonymous No.6560567]

>>6552327
What the heck does PVM even stand for? All my life there CRTs, then later came LCDs, and now I see this meme abbreviation on /vr/ all the time.

[Anonymous No.6560584]

>>6560543
They stopped making plasmas too because of their high quality, so they could flood the market with crappy lcd's and their planned obsolescence

[Anonymous No.6560595]

>>6553735
I dunno, I think it looks cool.

[Anonymous No.6560596]

>>6560584
Sure. It had everything to do with their high quality and not the fact burn-in was a major issue.

[Anonymous No.6560608]

>>6560596
I don't know whether this is bait but plasmas have built-in protection against burn-in. They dim the screen after 10 minutes if it's static, and fully switch off after a few hours. You practically have to force a screen to suffer burn-in.

The reason why they stopped manufacturing them is because they realised they were lasting many years without failing, and that's a big no-no in capitalism.

[Anonymous No.6560858]

>>6554832
damn strait. loved the shit outta my plasma... then after 6-7 years it died.

[Rusty Red No.6560919]

Still rocking my 10yo 60" LG Plasma, got it cheap 5 years ago - no pedestal and only dropped once. Sometimes it gets a blue vertical line but people online said they go away on their own and they do otherwise perfect (except one torn out hdmi)

Very happy with the intensity and color depth. The basement battle bridge display is a much older much shittier plasma and it's good for gaming too.

[Anonymous No.6560935]

>>6560567
Professional video monitor. Built for professional use, to run basically 24/7 for decades. Still overpriced garbage when you can spend like $20 on a trinitron, rgb mod it, and get basically the same result

[Anonymous No.6560937]

>>6552343
>input lag
what?

afaik most of them were CTR + lens + mirrors
some of them were good enough to make lightguns work without issues.

[Anonymous No.6560967]

based

[Anonymous No.6561038]

>>6560608
If you were old enough to have owned a plasma, or even known someone who did, you'd know if it was a meme or not

[Anonymous No.6561130]

>>6561038
I own 2 of them. Now what, retard?

[Anonymous No.6561154]

>>6560937
>some of them were good enough to make lightguns work without issues

Can confirm. I used to play Time Crisis 2 on one

[Anonymous No.6561217]

>>6561130
Now you outed yourself as a LARPer. See how easy that was.

[Anonymous No.6561225]

>>6561217
>NOOOOOO you definitely don't own that tv, anonymous poster!
Holy shit kys you fucking clown

[Anonymous No.6561248]

>>6555575
The light has to bounce off a mirror instead of directly to your eye like on a normal CRT

[Anonymous No.6561289]

>>6560967
>dim as fuck
>horrible vignette

Wow that's absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.6561296]

>>6561248
Agreed, I hate the input lag when I’m looking in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.6561608]

>>6561225
>NOOOOOOfag is a retarded larper
Shocker

[Anonymous No.6561676]

>>6561248
Are you aware of the speed of light?

[Anonymous No.6561859]

>>6552327
I too like to sit in total darkness in order to watch television.

[Anonymous No.6561901]

>>6560608
Not him, but I still have my plasma, after replacing the main board once and opening it up to clean the contacts on everything to eliminate the fucking electric hum.

I can say from experience that burn in is definitely an issue, even on later models like my 2012 Panasonic that had lots of protection, including slightly moving the images a line or two every so often.

The big problem with burn in isn't on paused screens so much as it is for items that remain static in the screen for a long time. For TV, this would be the channel logos that would remain in a fixed position on the corner of the screen, or similar channels with tickers, and for games, you'd have to worry about things like life bars, status bars, and maps.

Most modern games do away with that stuff these days, so it's an issue, but around the end of the PS3 era it was still common practice to just leave a bright white huge bar up on the screen for hours at a time (one of the many issues of Assassin's Creed 3), and let me tell you, that shit will stick with you screen for a little bit, but thankfully it can get cleared up if you're lucky. Worst case scenario is that it's stuck there forever, which I've definitely seen in some hotels that still have these Plasmas.

Point is: it's real, and like anytjing you gotta take care of it. It's worth it for the picture, a very small price to pay ultimately.

[Anonymous No.6561905]

>>6552327
>CRTs
Those things cause cancer.
Just ask 80's cameramen.

[Anonymous No.6561908]

>>6554832
OLEDs are great at the start, but apparently that's only for a few years.
My parents had a power succubus of a plasma that still looked decent when we finally replaced it.
Literally cut the power bill in half though.

[Anonymous No.6561910]

>>6560596
That and power consumption.

[Anonymous No.6561916]

>>6561901
Yeah I wouldn't pause porn on those things ay.

[Anonymous No.6562036]

>>6561901
Well there's definitely no burn-in on my two Panasonics, and I actually used one as my computer monitor for a while, which put the blue windows bar on there for a long time.

[Anonymous No.6563372]

>>6561905
Source?

[Anonymous No.6563634]

>>6561676
>not sure is coping or just really autistic

[Anonymous No.6563854]

>>6563372
his anus

[Anonymous No.6565894]

>>6560567
Meme abbreviation? Have you been living under a fucking rock?

[Anonymous No.6566082]

My projection TV is stilly pretty serviceable, but it's a DLP projector from 2006ish. The original bulb went out in like 2011. The replacement was ~130 dollars. When that went out in 2018, I just bought two cheap ass Chinese knockoff bulbs for $20 a pop. They're pretty dark, but the screen is 70 inches, so it covers most of the entire bedroom wall directly opposite my bed; which is pretty close, and the corners are as bright as the center, so viewing angle doesn't seem to be a problem even with the shit bulbs.
If anything, watching at night it just feels like I'm watching a movie in the theater. Supposedly, decades and decades ago, movie projectors used to have professionals manning them and the image was much better in theaters, but maybe that's my boomer dad blowing smoke up my ass due to his nostalgia.
Can't use that beast in the dog days of summer, though, or the AC can't even keep up. Also, N64 looks like complete ass beyond the lowest expectations on it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6566114]

>>6566082
On the other hand, SNES looks amazing on it. Cartoons as well. These things are beyond my comprehension.

[Anonymous No.6566140]

>>6561901
Having bought into the OLED meme, I'm feeling this too. I suppose there will just never be a high quality consumer display that isn't fragile as fuck. MicroLED doesn't sound like it'll be feasible for awhile, if ever.

[Anonymous No.6566241]

>>6554832
them power bills though
also shit blacks

[Anonymous No.6566848]

>>6552327
Only one person can see it and it wastes eletricity a bunch so it's the most evil, destructive, and antisocial richie types of monitors ever made that were commonly owned. I used to own one and metroid prime looked best on it but gave it away after first dumpster diving the thing. It was mint. Oddly thrown away, but then again it's not odd.

[Anonymous No.6566850]

>>6561676
No. He really isn't.

Source: >>6563634


>>6563634
I hope you're just trolling and actually know how this stuff works anon.

[Anonymous No.6567067]

>>6566850
I hope you're just trolling and not actually a coping autist

[Anonymous No.6567085]

>>6567067
>another cope abusing word memer from /r/incels

Please. Fucking. Leave.

[Anonymous No.6567126]

>play video games on a projection tv
>have to realign the image every 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.6567813]

>>6552327
My family had one of the gigantic ones, god what a horrible piece of shit it was. Couldn't see shit on it even if you maxxed out the brightness.

[Anonymous No.6567864]

>>6552327
I hot an old Pioneer in the back that even works with light gun games. However you need to be positioned directly in the center of the screen for everything to look right. There's not a whole lot good to say about Rear Projection Televisions. Other than some of them do work with light gun games, but not many. Not worth the gamble usually.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6567951]

>>6567864
I have never encountered an 4:3 SD rear projection TV (Not a 16:9 HD DLP) that didn't work with light gun games

[Anonymous No.6568009]

>>6567085
That guy is a retard, but you couldn't have outted yourself as a redditourist harder I'd you tried.

[Anonymous No.6568358]

>>6567085
Sorry redditot. The autistic cope you're peddling was smacked down here a long time ago. You'd know this if you weren't a newfag redditard.

[Anonymous No.6569750]

>>6567951
So have I. My parents have a 60 inch Sony CRT Rear Projection TV that's still hooked up and mostly working. It doesn't work with light gun games at all. Which sucks because it made me think my blue and pink justifiers for SNES were broken and they're not. I will tell you this with the old Pioneer in the back that does seem to work. I've used it with the PS1 Light Gun games. I've never tried it with anything else. Someday I'll try it with something else after I clean up back there and make some room.

[Anonymous No.6570246]

>>6552327
Projection TVs were created for exactly one function. Football.

[Anonymous No.6571042]

>>6569750
If you just googled the model number you'd know your parents don't have what you think they have

[Anonymous No.6572404]

>>6552340
>Enjoy the input lag, faggot
There is no input lag, you just suck at gaming