How does Wipeout hold up? Has it aged well?

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Anonymous Thu Jun 25 21:15:43 2020 No.6549891 [Reply] [Original]

How does Wipeout hold up? Has it aged well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 21:24:17 2020 No.6549912 Fucking duh, it's one of the few great PS1 games and still is a blast to play.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 25 21:55:34 2020 No.6549967 Wipeout 3 is the best one

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 00:02:35 2020 No.6550189 >>6549891 Better than your brain did. Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:01:29 2020 No.6550318 >>6549891 3 > 3 Special > XL > 64 > Wipeout 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wipeout Saturn > Wipeout XL saturn

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:03:53 2020 No.6550323 >>6550318 3 Special over XL? Didn't they mess up the physics or something? The Saturn games fucking blow, no doubt on that one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:54:01 2020 No.6550450 >>6550323 Physics are slightly different. Does add courses from the previous game but they look oddly sterile in the Wip3out style. There's also a drag racing mode which is pretty cool. But I also prefer XL/2097 over 3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 01:59:15 2020 No.6550464 >>6549891 Still has good music

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 03:39:02 2020 No.6550717 >>6549891 It was always style over substance. F-Zero X is a far better game (although not nearly as cool).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 03:42:44 2020 No.6550725 >>6550717 Wipeout has both style and substance, F-Zero X's just about muh speed on samey, mass produced feeling, empty, flat, wide open tracks with endless long turns

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 03:43:15 2020 No.6550727 >>6550318 How is 3 better than 3 Special?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 03:46:17 2020 No.6550737 >>6550727 Better framerate and better physics/collisions, you can't get away with most of the skips that SE lets you do

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 04:55:48 2020 No.6550808 >>6549891 Gameplay wise is still the same, a solid and fun futuristic racer. Try out ballisticng on steam if you want more of the same. >>6550717 Can't we just like both and stop being spergs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 05:16:38 2020 No.6550827 It’s good but BallisticNG is the only wipeout you’ll ever need anynore Also the Redbull product placement is cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 05:16:59 2020 No.6550828 Only 3 is worth playing from the PS1 games, but Omega is overall the best

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 05:42:36 2020 No.6550846

>>6550717
>It was always style over substance. F-Zero X is a far better game (although not nearly as cool).

My problem with the F-Zero 3D games is that you can turn 90 degrees with ease so it's way less about memorizingor reacting to the tracks. All the loops and turns don't really matter and thus the tracks feel in practice more flat than Wipeout tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTQeEzG0tSc

In Wipeout the turns matter way more and the tracks are much more narrow. You have to learn your turns and the track very well to do well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A_NBRlin5Y&t=1287s

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:25:51 2020 No.6550969
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>>6550717
>style over substance
The airbrake system is an excellent mechanic that the entire game is built around. What about the game lacks substance? I'm guessing you only played on the easier speed classes with FEISAR and then wrote it off.

>>6550828
Every track in XL/2097 is a masterpiece, the quality of the track design is consistently higher than 3 (although 3 has my two favorite tracks in the series, Hi-Fumi and Stanza inter) and while pretty rough around the edges the first one has some truly excellent tracks as well (Silverstream, Korodera, Arridos IV). Both also have top notch OSTs with 1's being entirely original and the aesthetics are great.

>>6550827
Stock car racing has advertisers and sponsors, and if putting real word sponsors on billboards on your fictional racetrack gets your game funded, then where's the issue? It doesn't take anyway. And in games like Jet Moto the teams literally being sponsored only made it seem like a legitimate motorsport.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:39:53 2020 No.6550991 >>6549891 It ages badly so theres is no point on looking at it. It also contains outdated cultural values

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:40:37 2020 No.6550992 >>6550969 Because the entire game comes off as a commercial for RedBull. For a full price game back in the PS1 era, it was tacky as hell. I didn't pay to get advertised to between loading screens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:44:44 2020 No.6551000 >>6550992 This so much, I was checking out Wipeout on Youtube and one of then had these billboards with RedBull on them that made me cringe so much. No dignity whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:45:37 2020 No.6551001 >>6551000 Try BallisticNG. It's the best WipeOut experience without actually being WipeOut. It's got the music, the controls, the hovercrafts, the tracks. Worth whatever pittance they ask for on Steam these days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:54:34 2020 No.6551026 >>6551001 This ad is just as cringe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:57:29 2020 No.6551036 >>6550969 Is that a design book? Has it been scanned?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 07:59:15 2020 No.6551038 >>6550992 >>6551000 Advertising money = higher production value and more money to license Prodigy songs. Really a non-issue.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:01:42 2020 No.6551041
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>>6551036
It's from a limited print run Designer's Republic monograph that I'm sure goes for 700 dollars on ebay, to my knowledge hasn't been scanned but found some photos of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:02:47 2020 No.6551047 File: 209 KB, 600x471, 2011-detail-from-the-designers-republic-book.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551041

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:03:50 2020 No.6551051 File: 146 KB, 1024x683, 7728309916_821b51090a_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551047

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:06:31 2020 No.6551054 >>6551038 No other game has fucking advertisements like that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:06:50 2020 No.6551057 File: 116 KB, 1024x683, 7728445280_853ae96b02_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551051 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/designers-republic-versus-idea-478176080 I think this is the one these are from

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:08:07 2020 No.6551059 File: 199 KB, 400x300, 0 XPOFGiTodgRPYCi5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551054 Literally mentioned another one that does that in the original post. But even if it were true so what?

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:13:43 2020 No.6551074

>>6551059
Jet Moto at least spreads the advertising out between separate teams, so that it's a somewhat realistic representation of sports sponsorship.

Wipeout 2097 makes it seem like the entire Wipeout universe revolves around RedBull. It's still a great game, don't get me wrong, but the advertising kinda ruins the kino.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 08:36:31 2020 No.6551105 >>6551026 >Get recommended a game on a video game board >Be an ass about it Well fuck you too buddy

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 09:16:30 2020 No.6551159
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>>6549891
World building is pretty good. There was a picture explaining the fine details on how the teams were formed and evolved in the different games. Something similar to pic but better.
Its kinda too floaty for me also the physics will feel weird if you are used to playing the ps4/vita game. Otherwise its fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:37:25 2020 No.6551301 >>6551159 Wipeout 1 has a big lore dump in the manual. Very comfy reading.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:46:21 2020 No.6551329

>>6551301
>>6551159

Whoever was working in Psygnosis at the time just loved world building and info-dumps. Colony Wars original has a huge voice acted history lesson section on the history of the universe including the history of Earth.

I can't find that but I found this:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIQFcenap4fYWQkj0M--gAp68OG_z6oks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:51:09 2020 No.6551342 >>6550827 this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 10:54:51 2020 No.6551356 >And then, for no reasons at all, Wipeout PS2 happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 11:00:16 2020 No.6551365 >>6550827 >>6550992 >>6551054 >>6551074 Go play the PC versions if the ads trigger you so much. Do you bitch about the ads in Crazy Taxi too? And they did away with the ads by WO3. So don't run your mouths about games you barely played, it's cringe.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 11:03:34 2020 No.6551370

>>6551356
The same thing happened to Psygnosis that happened to Rare: they were a talented British dev bought up by a first party console maker and a lot of their talent left to form a new studio. The same year Fusion came out, Quantum Redshift released on Xbox, and both were a weaker experience because of a division in talent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 12:34:15 2020 No.6551547 >>6550318 >He hasn't even played the DOS version of 1. Wow what a poser.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 12:36:32 2020 No.6551554

>>6550827
>Promise to keep the game open source.
>Kike out and close source while promising to re open in if the get enough money on Patreon.
>Kike out again and release the game on steam for money while scrubbing any mention of the game ever being an open source collabarative project.
Fuck BNG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:21:31 2020 No.6551681 >>6551554 Still a great game. Find me a better wipeout clone, you can’t

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:26:19 2020 No.6551686 >>6550727 u can play 3 in 60 Hz while special is stuck in 50 Hz (released only in europe)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:27:49 2020 No.6551696 >>6550991 explain this shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:32:13 2020 No.6551701 >>6550827 in 1997 redbull was banned in my country so we didn't even really know what it was, so the ads just added an underground feel to it + actual product placement like in real racing and sport is pretty based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:35:15 2020 No.6551705 File: 498 KB, 365x400, maximum_soy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551681 >playing clones over the originals

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 13:35:56 2020 No.6551706 >>6550717 first gen WOs are all about that super statisfying floating/drifting sensation the cool designs and musics are just the cherry on top

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:11:11 2020 No.6551868 File: 174 KB, 600x609, 2097.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6549891 Fucking hell, why are US PS1 covers so shitty compared to their PAL equivilent versions? Okay we got 50hz but at least our covers were great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:16:45 2020 No.6551878 File: 921 KB, 4032x3024, 1vp0v0cof2z31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551868

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:17:49 2020 No.6551880 File: 48 KB, 400x200, castlevaniasotn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551878

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:30:31 2020 No.6551906
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I think games with very angular and boxy designs, like WipEout and Homeworld, were the epitome of nice graphics in the early days of 3D, and they still hold up wonderfully today.

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:39:56 2020 No.6551926

>>6550827
>>6550992
You're looking back at the sponsorship with a modern viewpoint. Most people didn't know what RedBull was in 1997, they'd only just entered the UK market. RedBull and energy drinks in general were still niche and not really part of mass culture. Not like now where they give megabucks sponsorship to everyone from huge sports stars/teams to e-sports and Twitch streamers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:51:25 2020 No.6551951 >>6551878 >>6551880 meesa prefer burger SH1 and euro SotN

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 15:57:52 2020 No.6551962 >>6551105 Yes a RETRO VIDEO GAME BOARD. There is nothing retro about BallisticNG. If you had provided a download link to a pirated copy then people would be way more likely to consider you sincere yet stupid instead of some faggot ass shill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:04:24 2020 No.6551971 >>6551696 What's there to explain? It has aged. Noting more to it, it doesn't hold up, no point in playing it. Maybe if it has a remake those are always better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 16:11:52 2020 No.6551979 >>6551868 I like good cover art as much as the next guy, but at the end of the day what matters is the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:48:22 2020 No.6552196 File: 144 KB, 710x788, 71r5HiVxcyL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551962 >there is nothing retro about BallisticNG

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 17:55:13 2020 No.6552224 >>6552196 Provide a link to a pirated copy or shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:02:08 2020 No.6552249 >>6550717 Not true. F-Zero is a baby's game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:02:31 2020 No.6552251 >>6552224 >feed me fuck off faggot. i gave you a recommendation, you can either find it yourself or suck a dick

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:04:58 2020 No.6552261 >>6550717 based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 18:35:11 2020 No.6552316 >>6552249 Post your staff ghost times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 19:23:52 2020 No.6552378 >>6552224 It has no drm just buy, copypaste files elsewhere and refund if you want to pirate, you stupid faggot

Anonymous Fri Jun 26 19:39:27 2020 No.6552405

>>6549891
Still a blast to play, still the game that got me into electronic music. The psp games are really good still too.

>>6551554
Is this true? Bummer. I bought the game originally on steam.

>>6551906
It's because they didn't waste time trying to make textures on-model. Most games that last design-wise put all their textures as a material on the model, not as part of the model. It makes it way easier to update later down the line too.
>>6551962
Fuck the font is what gets me hard as diamonds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 19:46:23 2020 No.6552417 >>6549891 Only games that got unplayable with time were practically all the N64's library except for Nintendos' IPs and almost every early 3D game (psx, 3DO) Except for racing games, those are fine. So you're safe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 19:51:31 2020 No.6552425 >>6552251 >i gave you a recommendation Yes not only a recommendation for a non-retro game but also one that is still available for sale. Provide a link to a pirated copy or shut the fuck up shill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 20:03:43 2020 No.6552445 File: 2.40 MB, 640x480, phenitiapark.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551962 >There is nothing retro about BallisticNG Could have fooled me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 26 21:28:33 2020 No.6552615 >>6551041 I'm a massive fan of Designers Republic for the work they do with Warp Records and Autechre in particular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 05:03:12 2020 No.6553581 File: 956 KB, 768x432, x1-1.png.pagespeed.ic.1qq34jWOYn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6551868 >red quirex

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 08:42:39 2020 No.6553852 >>6552445 I can hear this video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:28:45 2020 No.6554840 wipeout 1 could of been the greatest racing game of its time if it hadn't been for the steep difficulty

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:29:31 2020 No.6555382 >>6554840 Get proficient

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:31:44 2020 No.6555392 >>6554840 back to f-queero

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:45:04 2020 No.6555418 Games don't age, retard.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:01:35 2020 No.6555852

>>6552405
>It's because they didn't waste time trying to make textures on-model. Most games that last design-wise put all their textures as a material on the model, not as part of the model. It makes it way easier to update later down the line too.
What does this even mean?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 02:08:36 2020 No.6555869 >>6554840 Wipeout 1 had terrible physics which they hadn't figured out yet so no, it can't be the greatest >could of neck yourself

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:03:26 2020 No.6557865
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I really like how this game looks and feels. The previous entries had an aesthetic that verged on dark, creepy, industrial. 3 was sleek, minimalist, bright, just how I expected the future to look back then.

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 23:15:54 2020 No.6558268

>>6557865
>previous entries had an aesthetic that verged on dark, creepy, industrial
correct
>3 was sleek, minimalist, bright
where the series ended for me, there's actually zero excitement when playing Wipeout 3, from the physics, to the soundtrack, to the world

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:05:46 2020 No.6558863
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>>6550969
>>6551038
>>6551365
>>6551059
Only on /vr/ would you have people unironically defending product placement in your full priced game that you paid money to play, just because youre too afraid to admit a game you like might have done something a bit shameless

God damn this board went down hill...
now i see why modern consoles got away with ads on the dashboard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:14:05 2020 No.6558878 >>6558268 > there's actually zero excitement when playing Wipeout 3 Next time try playing Phantom and using a fast ship like Icaras

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:43:53 2020 No.6558921 This thread made me realize I still have to finish 1 and fusion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 04:56:35 2020 No.6558937 >>6551105 Not retro, jew.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:42:49 2020 No.6558989 Jesus Christ... what's with all the shilling in this thread?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:43:25 2020 No.6558992 >>6558989 There's nothing wrong with shilling good games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:52:41 2020 No.6559002 >>6558992 Especially when their sales make me a ton of money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 05:55:00 2020 No.6559007 >>6559002 I wish, I do it for free

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:02:07 2020 No.6559015 >>6559007 Especially when claiming I do it for free results in me getting even more money for maintaining my cover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:09:38 2020 No.6559026 >>6559015 Then why would you blow your cover right now? Something doesn't add up here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:22:36 2020 No.6559038 >>6559026 Nobody would believe that a shill would willingly go out of their way to blow their own cover thus removing any suspicion that I am actually a shill. The perfect crime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 06:26:52 2020 No.6559045 File: 23 KB, 500x667, 1525978372608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6559038 Ah alright then piss off and take your corporate shit with you faggot, this is a Wipeout/BallisticNG thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 08:34:51 2020 No.6559205 >>6551074 >>6551074 Think of it of a dystopian future where the populace is forced to drink Redbull and partake in hovercar races

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:48:51 2020 No.6559276

>>6559045
>this is a Wipeout/BallisticNG thread
>ballisticNG
No, you can go to >>>/v/

>>6558863
Shut up zoomnigger, it doesn't effect the gameplay and is no more more obnoxious than the ads you saw in games like Crazy Taxi. Go back to >>>/v/ where you belong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 09:56:31 2020 No.6559287 >>6559276 Do you even play Wipeout or do you just whinge about supposed shilling while playing defense against corporate advertisement of canned poison

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:02:47 2020 No.6559294 >>6559287 Do you even play wipeout or do you just whinge about textures of a canned drink logo inside of a game that's a quarter century old?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 10:18:08 2020 No.6559313 >>6559294 Honestly? I mostly switched to BallisticNG a while back, the older Wipeout games still have some great aspects that weren't captured by BNG, such as the instant restart brutal wall collisions but it's hard to go back to the 30/25 FPS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 11:09:15 2020 No.6559402 >>6551554 >release the best Wipeout game ever for 5 bucks >BUT THEY SAID OPEN SOURCE ONCE!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:31:56 2020 No.6560338 >>6559276 Dude, I love this board being as retro as anyone else, but it's ok to tangentially talk about new tech that lets you play your old gaming content. Just be happy we are talking about the old videogames we love and enjoying that, ok?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:49:51 2020 No.6560373 >>6560338 >but it's ok to tangentially talk about new tech that lets you play your old gaming content. Yeah, those are called emulators. Not actual new games. Also nowhere in OP is Ballistic mentioned. This is a Wipeout thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:57:10 2020 No.6560387 >>6551370 Quantum Redshift is an underappreciated game IMO. It's definitely not as good as Wipeout (or, say, F-Zero GX) but it scratches the same itch.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 18:58:24 2020 No.6560392

>>6560373
If a new engine is built, and you can drop your game levels into it, it's a little more than emulation, more like simulation. Just cause it has newer content included is not worth getting salty over. It's like getting all piss baby over the multitude of new DOOM engines cause they weren't coded by Carmack himself, so not retro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:03:34 2020 No.6560407 Holy shit this dude has even resorted to shilling BallisticNG in other threads too: >>6560380 Just how much money are they paying you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 19:28:50 2020 No.6560467 >>6559402 >SAID OPEN SOURCE ONCE!! Good reading comprehension, shill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 22:57:45 2020 No.6560938 >>6560407 I'm not even the same guy you autist. But I'm glad you're so upset, you deserve it.

Anonymous Mon Jun 29 23:08:44 2020 No.6560962

>>6560407
Forgot to add: the idea that anyone would pay someone to shill in this shithole is absurd and self-aggrandizing, only an actual child would believe it. And this website is only for 18 years and older.
"Hey, I need to advertise my four year old indie steam game, could you go sneak some advertisements on there in between the threads full of retards calling each other faggots over which shitty Castlevania port they like the best" said no one ever you stupid cunt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 29 23:08:50 2020 No.6560963 >>6550992 Why are you talking like the Red brand is not guilty of this

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