HOMM/MM (Heroes of) Might & Magic(:Heroes) General

[Anonymous No.6528035]

"You've yeed your last haw" Edition
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[Anonymous No.6528038]

Repostan
I'm playing homm3 for the first time. It's my first time playing any homm for that matter. I installed the HD mod so I could play full screen on a 1600x1200 monitor. The menu and battle map are really small but the world map is full screen and looks good. Is this the only way it will work? Is there no way to have the battle map in full screen at 1600x1200?

[Anonymous No.6528043]

Courtesy of >>6527810

Translated by Google:
On HotA Facebook, the fan art (>>6528035) was posted by the artist under the nickname Riori Kasua. It was created as part of the background images for streams, commissioned by the organizer of one online tournament. The tournament, however, as a result did not take place and, accordingly, the images remained unclaimed. At the same time, this work is also rapidly losing relevance - much of the work presented on it is already outdated. For a long time there is no old design of the castle, and some other buildings from the city screen, and the design of units has changed a lot. The Halfling is stronger, the Arrows and flamethrowers are not so significant. Even the Battleships here were created even before the 3D model, not to mention the early prototypes of the Dreadnought "submariners" in spacesuits in the far background. Now in the community this art is still easy to perceive as something thematically related to the Factory, but after a couple of months it will look frankly outdated. So, I suppose, now was the time to share it.

[Anonymous No.6528073]

bleh

[Anonymous No.6528419]

>>6528043
>Battleships
For fuck's sake, Google, at least mistranslate them properly as "Ironclads".

[Anonymous No.6528598]

>>6528073

[Anonymous No.6529140]

If you could add a faction to the game, what would it be?

[Anonymous No.6529162]

>>6529140
1. rogues/assassins
2. nomads/desert nomads
3. mummy/royal mummy
4. gold golem/diamond golem
5. sphinx/ur-sphinx
6. priest/high priest
7. scorpion rider/scorpion king

Incorporates the related neutrals. Kinda has same problem as rampart with the slow tanky middle units. One flyer, one shooter. Kinda think the lvl 7 could be an elephant who is immune to moats, can smash walls in melee, and can move through units on the battlefield and damage them while doing so, but it'd be just an elephant; I can't think of a proper mythological creature that fits.

[Anonymous No.6529793]

Fuck Factory it's stupid

[Anonymous No.6529987]

>>6528073
>>6528598
ssssssssacha

[Anonymous No.6530017]

>>6529140
This one sounds cool

[Anonymous No.6530038]

>>6529793
I agree

[Anonymous No.6530335]

>>6529987

[Anonymous No.6530372]

>>6529162
>ur-spinx
more like ur sphincter lmao got em

[Anonymous No.6530381]

>>6530372
kek

[Anonymous No.6530383]

>>6530335

[Anonymous No.6530390]

>>6528035

[Anonymous No.6530901]

>>6528035
OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.6530981]

>>6530390
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.6531035]

>>6530981
There is more

[Anonymous No.6531160]

>>6531035
Why is this habsburg jaw guy represents "le chad" anyway?

[Anonymous No.6531231]

Are there any "unstuck" commands/cheats in M&M VII? I'm stuck behind sarcophagus in one of the barrows, and can't get out. Tried jumping and running, but it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.6531268]

>>6531160
>thatsthepoint.jpg.png.gif.webm

[Anonymous No.6531397]

>>6531231
That's what autosave is for, but no you shouldn't have been able to get stuck in the first place. The barrows are small enough you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.6532026]

>>6529140
>>6529162
>>6530017
>muh ancient egypt town
can there be a more creatively bankrupt idea?

[Anonymous No.6532103]

>>6529162

Rogues are lv.2 and Nomads are lv.3. How would that work?

[Anonymous No.6532143]

>>6532026
Cove and Factory?

[Anonymous No.6532175]

>>6531231
give yourself a town portal spell scroll in the character editor and tp out

[Anonymous No.6532407]

>>6532026
Factory

[Anonymous No.6532526]

>>6532026
Have you ever considered making a pirate faction, because you are a big fan of PotC? No?
Some people did.

[Anonymous No.6532527]

>>6532526
I think the thing that bothers me most with Cove was the laziness of hero portraits had not been seen since the troglodyte heroes

[Anonymous No.6532751]

I finally got time to play and even found a map I haven't played before. The problem? I can't decide which town and color to pick.
So gimme a town/hero/color combination and I'll go with that.

[Anonymous No.6532759]

>>6532751
You have random option, why don't you just go with it?

[Anonymous No.6532768]

>>6532759
It doesn't randomize color and also doesn't help this thread stay active.

[Anonymous No.6532774]

>>6532768
Green Jenova

[Anonymous No.6532776]

>>6532527
What bothers me most with Cove is how shit the default town music is. Couldn't bring myself to play the faction again until I replaced it.

[Anonymous No.6532786]

>>6532774
Can do.

[Anonymous No.6532951]

>>6532751
here are the official town colors

[Anonymous No.6533213]

That was an OK map. Starting in the corner where you have to cross half a map's worth of rough would've been bad if the witch hut next to my town hadn't taught pathfinding. That wasn't guaranteed but a pure random occurrence in my favor.
A shame all the border guard stuff and the grail were more trouble than they were worth. There was some good stuff hidden in there, and the grail is always fun. I never even found an entrance to the underground, which is where the grail is in this map.

[Anonymous No.6533353]

>>6528038
You need smaller resolution.

[Anonymous No.6533405]

>>6532951
> autism

[Anonymous No.6533676]

>>6533405
That's not even an insult. Besides, you know I'm right.

[Anonymous No.6534423]

>>6528035
I know this is a HOMM general on /vr/ so talking about Disciples 2 is forbidden since it's neither a HOMM game nor "retro" but I have some big questions that need answers and this seems like the best place to get them.
1) What are the balance changes in Rise of the Elves? is there even a complete changelog? I kinda hoped they fixed the Undead Hordes balance. This ties into my second question:
2) Are there any good rebalance mods? I want to play with something other than Lich Queen, 4 Deaths and 1 Spectre/ Shade. It fucking sucks not being able to use 90% of the roster. Mage heroes are OP across the board, but the Deaths and their ridiculous immunity to basically anything they can't kill in one turn really bugs me.

[Anonymous No.6534701]

>>6532143
>>6532407
>>6532526
despite the steampunkshit factory otherwise seems "fresh" while also not that out of place considering tower and its wizard of oz golems in the wasteland from hommo2
cove is eh, a bit too piraty for my opinion

sand terrain not being claimed by any faction and grouping a bunch of random neutrals to create a new "faction" is what people have probably been "brainstorming" about since the 20th century, there must be a hundred WoG mods that create egypt town with mumies nomads etc, its just LAZY

[Anonymous No.6534792]

>>6532103
shhhhh

[Anonymous No.6535154]

>>6534423
>talking about Disciples 2 is forbidden since it's neither a HOMM game nor "retro"
I talked about Disciples plenty of times here and nobody gave a shit. Also, it's a sequel to a retro game and is 18 years old now.
>I kinda hoped they fixed the Undead Hordes balance
AFAIK, in Rise of the Elves Wraiths, Deaths and Wights have their initiative lowered to 30 or 40, which means they're much more prone to being nuked before killing whoever can injure them.
>Mage heroes are OP across the board
Only in sagas, because you can gain much more EXP which scales their damage output exponentially. In regular single-map scenarios, Warrior or Guildmaster heroes are as good or better than the mage.
>Deaths and their ridiculous immunity to basically anything
But you have to get to the point where you manage to level up Initiates into Warlocks (both weak AOE damage dealers) and then into single-target Wraiths which you can then put in melee row. Also, they don't vibe well with Warrior or Nosferatu heroes for different reasons, so the process of leveling them up is laborious.

[Anonymous No.6535161]

>>6532951
Teal Castle is my jam

[Anonymous No.6535341]

>>6535161
>Teal Castle
You disgust me.
In all seriousness tho, if there are more than one Castle player out there, I find teal, purple (both of which are colder colors) and orange (complementary to blue) to be nice substitutes.

>>6533213
>That was an OK map
Looks comfy. What's the map's name?

[Anonymous No.6535342]

After yesterday's game, I had to admit that I've played almost all of the stock maps that interest me. There's still a few, but past that I'm not sure what to do. Yes, there's the RMG, but when you've seen one RMG map with a certain template, you've seen them all.

[Anonymous No.6535346]

>>6535341
Peaceful Ending

[Anonymous No.6535358]

>>6535154
I'm playing through the sagas now so that explains a lot. Anyways, I didn't find it hard to level up Initiates to Deaths once you get Leadership and have all 6 slots. I used to put 3 Fighters in the front and 2 Initiates in the back since they're meatshields and then once I got at least 1 Wraith it was basically over.
I still wish the Undead had other sources of damage.
Don't they have any units that deal Earth damage? Seems like it could fix a lot of their issues if you had some units that dealt Earth damage.

[Anonymous No.6535416]

>>6535358
>I used to put 3 Fighters in the front and 2 Initiates in the back since they're meatshields and then once I got at least 1 Wraith it was basically over
Pretty much, but the process of leveling all 5 Initiates into Deaths is annoying to say the least. Since in the sagas you usually start with an upgraded Warlock, you can get to a Wraith a bit faster, but then you have to level up 2 pairs of Initiates one after another which is boring and risky if you're dealing with harder parties.
>I still wish the Undead had other sources of damage.
Tell me about it. If you were a dumbass like 12 y.o me was, you would've got to this (pic related) point with Nosferatu and 5 Deaths and realize why relying on a single source of damage isn't the best idea in the world.

>>6535346
Tnx anon.

[Anonymous No.6535454]

>>6530390
>this is a precise math game with exact values each and every time
weird, the people raising the "HotA is killing RNG" argument always sperg about Mass Slow and not Mass Bless

[Anonymous No.6535548]

Any news on when the new HoTa town is releasing?

[Anonymous No.6535628]

>>6535454

[Anonymous No.6537086]

Are the maps that come with HOTA any good? I don't really care for the changes or new towns, but I guess I could live with them if there's new content.

[Anonymous No.6537560]

>>6537086
yes, big differance in quality between fan mapmaking autism and wagie creed

[Anonymous No.6537765]

>>6528035
Cowboy faction when?

[Anonymous No.6537774]

>>6533213
I remember this map. See those 2 town in the top right corner that are in different zones yet actually very close to each other? The CPU got Fly and jumped from his main castle over the mountain border to my main castle all in a single day, shit was bananas

Aside from that good map though

[Anonymous No.6537802]

>>6537765
JOOOHNYYYY GUITAAAAAR

[Anonymous No.6537827]

am I the only one who doesn't hate Heroes 6 ? I think it's actually good, if you don't care about the lack of diversity of resources and also the simplified/smaller maps.
I think the campaigns are quite good and the feel of progression is good
The skills/spells and units are good too.
The design is a bit too much but it's not too bad.
HOMM7 is supposed to be the same but for some reason I could never get into it

[Anonymous No.6537830]

>play a map
>see this
what do?

[Anonymous No.6537839]

>>6537830
skip 10000 turns

[Anonymous No.6537841]

>>6537830
Take over the rest of the map and build up and out-growth that army with all the resources you get.
If he comes after you, play musical castles and whittle him down.

[Anonymous No.6537928]

is there any mods of shit that is exactly HOMM2 gameplay wise but more modern? ie better resolution, and no weird lag when you play

[Anonymous No.6537936]

idea for an indie game:
a mix between HOMM and Hearstone/collecting card game.
Basically it's like HOMM except the battles are settled through card game, like each unit is a card, more or less powerful. Spells too.
I'm not sure if that would mean that cards disapear once played or not
I'm wondering if it's close to Etherlords or not
what do you think?

[Anonymous No.6537952]

>>6537928
Succ wars

[Anonymous No.6537998]

>>6529140
Egypt desert is a good idea and definitely a missing niche, so I'll say another faction which would be some Viking/snow elves to represent that northern ice nation. Tower does a piss poor job of representing Snow as a terrain.

Gib ice age mammals

[Anonymous No.6538001]

>>6537936
Although it's clearly not one-on-one conversion of your idea, Thronebreaker might be worth checking out.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asxHuPE_rZg

As a bonus, one of the in-game convos with a random villager has them referencing HoMM.

[Anonymous No.6538018]

>>6537952
what? isn't this just the expansion to HOMM2?

[Anonymous No.6538123]

>>6538018
succ war is the standard homm2
price of loyalty is the expansion

succ war is also a mod for homm3 that makes it look like homm2

[Anonymous No.6538170]

>>6537998
The egypt/arab faction does several things
>gives desert/sand terrain a faction
>is a neutral faction themed around balanced heroes with good overland movement/specials (as opposed to strongholds offense, fortress's defense, and conflux's magic)
>picks up those unaligned desert units into a faction (like conflux did with elementals)
>the only faction besides tower to have a construct and the only faction besides necromancer to have an undead

What does the nordheim faction bring? How does it fit in?

[Anonymous No.6538180]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDyDz8WeiM4
this is the most Might and Magic video ever

[Anonymous No.6538567]

>>6529140
>>6529162

[Anonymous No.6538594]

>>6538170
Not the anon you're replying to, but
>Has undead
>Isn't all-undead
How does it work with morale mechanics? You know, the hefty penalty for having undead in the army

[Anonymous No.6538636]

>>6538594
I think you should never take a penalty from your own faction, but it would count if you had units from two or more factions.

[Anonymous No.6538670]

>>6537936
I've also been thinking about a replacement for battles in HOMM, since that seems to be the weakest aspect in the game's formula. Using card mechanics for the fights seems like an obvious an improvement, though I'm not very familiar with card games so I can't say much. I'm sort of drawn to the idea of the battles being in real-time to complement the turn-based movement in the overworld. Something like an RTS with fixed troop amounts.

[Anonymous No.6538717]

>everyone only talks about homm
mm6 and mm8 were love

[Anonymous No.6538746]

>>6538636
I might be wrong, but the undead penalty is hard-coded. So it's less about "wrong faction" and more about "undead, specifically" being an issue here.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in for this idea of a faction, just pointing out the obvious problem

[Anonymous No.6538762]

>>6538746
Couldnt you just have give all units some kind of "pharaoh's guardian" buff that makes them not get negative morale when it's an undead in the army?

[Anonymous No.6538768]

>>6538746
>>6538762
I was thinking you could just code up another status and call it "undead"

[Anonymous No.6538887]

>let's create the most generic biome for a faction ever than is not "forest"
what's next ? Casino faction? Metropolis faction? Snow faction? Lava faction? Forest faction?

[Anonymous No.6538943]

quicksand moat
sandstorm siege defense (slows enemy speed by 2 when besieging the town)
monolith (autocasts quicksand outside of walls at the start of a siege)
-upgrades to obelisk (as adventure map; lets you skip last one)
nomads > oasis (as adventure map)
marketplace > caravan (teaches basic logistics for 1000gp, requires oasis) > bazaar (+1 marketplace) > artifact merchants
mage guild level 4 max, heiroglyphs add additional non-water spell to each level
blacksmith (ammo cart; conflux switched to first aid tent)
grail: gleaming gold-tipped smooth-sided white pyramid with two flame-topped pillars (additional land movement to all allied heroes and +1 speed to all units)

outrider - 1 2 1 2 - scouting/pathfinding, 2/3 attack/move skills, 1/3 magic (wisdom common)
-turban w/gem and feather, arabic looking guy with scimitar
sorcerer - 1 1 2 2 - sorcery/wisdom, 1/3 attack/move skills (path/logis common), 2/3 magic
-pharoah looking guy with twisting gold cobra staff
neither ever learns water magic or navigation
cast spells in black, have black horses

1 rogue/assassin
-spying, assassin gains 20% more damage if attacking from behind
2 nomad/dervish (requires oasis)
-sandwalking, dervish is an archer who can move and still shoot afterwards, no melee penalty
3 mummy/royal mummy
-undead, curse, vulnerable to fire, royal mummy misfortunes enemies that attack it in melee
4 sphinx/ur-sphinx
-flier, 2-hex eye laser attack, retaliates with claws
-ur-sphinx can roar to reduce enemy morale by 1 up to 3 times
5 gold golem (requires mage guild 1)/diamond golem (mage guild 3)
6 priest/high priest
-can bless ally unit, shooter, no range/obstacle penalty
7 scorpion rider/scorpion king
-hits 3 hexes, poisons targeted hex, king attacks twice

has mostly lowish stats but good speed (mummy/golems are fairly slow)

[Anonymous No.6538992]

>>6538943
>>6532103
rogues
>attack 4, defense 3, damage 1-3, hp 7, speed 6
assassins
>attack 6, defense 3, damage 2-3, hp 8, speed 7

nomad
>attack 6, defense 5, damage 2-3, hp 9, speed 8
dervish
>attack 7, defense 5, damage 2-4, hp 10, speed 8, 12 shots

[Anonymous No.6538998]

quicksand moat
sandstorm siege defense (slows enemy speed by 1 when besieging the town, 2 for fliers, lowers enemy ranged attack by 2)
monolith (autocasts quicksand outside of walls at the start of a siege)
-upgrades to obelisk (as adventure map; lets you skip last one)
nomads > oasis (as adventure map)
marketplace > caravan (teaches basic logistics for 1000gp, requires oasis) > bazaar (+1

marketplace) > artifact merchants
mage guild level 4 max, heiroglyphs add additional non-water spell to each level
blacksmith (ammo cart; conflux switched to first aid tent)
grail: gleaming gold-tipped smooth-sided white pyramid with two flame-topped pillars (additional

land movement to all allied heroes and +1 speed to all units)

outrider - 1 2 1 2 - scouting/pathfinding, 2/3 attack/move skills, 1/3 magic (wisdom common)
-turban w/gem and feather, arabic looking guy with scimitar
sorcerer - 1 1 2 2 - sorcery/wisdom, 1/3 attack/move skills (path/logis common), 2/3 magic
-pharoah looking guy with twisting gold cobra staff
neither ever learns water magic or navigation
cast spells in black, have black horses

1 rogue/assassin
-spying, assassin gains 20% more damage if attacking from behind
2 nomad/dervish (requires oasis)
-sandwalking, dervish is an archer who can move and still shoot afterwards, no melee penalty
3 mummy/royal mummy
-undead, curse, vulnerable to fire, royal mummy misfortunes enemies that attack it in melee
4 sphinx/ur-sphinx
-flier, 2-hex eye laser attack, retaliates with claws
-ur-sphinx can roar to reduce enemy morale by 1 up to 3 times
5 gold golem (requires mage guild 1)/diamond golem (mage guild 3)
6 priest/high priest
-can bless ally unit, shooter, no range/obstacle penalty
7 scorpion rider/scorpion king
-hits 3 hexes, poisons targeted hex, king attacks twice

has mostly lowish stats but good speed (mummy/golems are fairly slow)

[Anonymous No.6539002]

>>6538998
rogues
>attack 4, defense 3, damage 1-3, hp 7, speed 6
assassins
>attack 6, defense 3, damage 2-3, hp 8, speed 7

nomads
>attack 6, defense 5, damage 2-3, hp 9, speed 8
dervishes
>attack 7, defense 5, damage 2-4, hp 10, speed 9, 12 shots

[Anonymous No.6539010]

quicksand moat
sandstorm siege defense (slows enemy speed by 1 when besieging the town, 2 for fliers, lowers enemy ranged attack by 2)
monolith (autocasts quicksand outside of walls at the start of a siege)
-upgrades to obelisk (as adventure map; lets you skip last one)
nomads > oasis (as adventure map)
marketplace > caravan (teaches basic logistics for 1000gp, requires oasis) > bazaar (+1 marketplace) > artifact merchants
mage guild level 4 max, heiroglyphs add additional non-water spell to each level
blacksmith (ammo cart; conflux switched to first aid tent)
grail: gleaming gold-tipped smooth-sided white pyramid with two flame-topped pillars (additional land movement to all allied heroes and +1 speed to all units)

outrider - 1 2 1 2 - scouting/pathfinding, 2/3 attack/move skills, 1/3 magic (wisdom common)
-turban w/gem and feather, arabic looking guy with scimitar
sorcerer - 1 1 2 2 - sorcery/wisdom, 1/3 attack/move skills (path/logis common), 2/3 magic
-pharoah looking guy with twisting gold cobra staff
neither ever learns water magic or navigation
cast spells in black, have black horses

1 rogue/assassin
-spying, assassin gains 20% more damage if attacking from behind
2 nomad/dervish (requires oasis)
-sandwalking, dervish is an archer who can move and still shoot afterwards, no melee penalty
3 mummy/royal mummy
-undead, curse, vulnerable to fire, royal mummy misfortunes enemies that attack it in melee
4 sphinx/ur-sphinx
-flier, 2-hex eye laser attack, retaliates with claws
-ur-sphinx can roar to reduce enemy morale by 1 up to 3 times
5 gold golem (requires mage guild 1)/diamond golem (mage guild 3)
6 priest/high priest
-can bless ally unit, shooter, no range/obstacle penalty
7 scorpion rider/scorpion king
-hits 3 hexes, poisons targeted hex, king attacks twice

has mostly lowish stats but good speed (mummy/golems are fairly slow)

[Anonymous No.6539014]

>>6539010
rogues
>attack 4, defense 3, damage 1-3, hp 7, speed 6
assassins
>attack 6, defense 3, damage 2-3, hp 8, speed 7

nomads
>attack 6, defense 5, damage 2-3, hp 9, speed 8
dervishes
>attack 7, defense 5, damage 2-4, hp 10, speed 9, 12 shots

[Anonymous No.6539017]

>>6538887
Slav faction, of course

[Anonymous No.6539024]

>>6538170
I'm not against an Egypt faction, Anubis are one of the MM6 monsters like the sea serpent that really should be in HoMM, I just wanted to suggest a different idea. Though I don't see how yet another neutral faction, or putting unalligned units into a faction is an inherently good thing.

As for what a Nordheim faction would add, better Snow themed monsters. The only Tower unit that feels Snowish even slightly is the Gargoyle.

Tower honestly should've been a Desert faction.

[Anonymous No.6539042]

>>6539024
gremlins are pretty russian and therefor snowish
otherwise yeah, I agree about it being a desert faction
if the golems were more like greek or egyptian statues...
genies and nagas are warm-themed
the giants/titans are greek-themed (which is pretty warm)
gargoyles don't fit, but that's okay
if they switched their wizards and mages to being arabic-looking guys, then sure

but then the base game wouldnt have a snow faction, and you still aren't getting the point about what the nordheim faction would add; "snow monsters" doesn't address it

good has a might faction (castle), a magic faction (tower), and a misc faction (rampart)
evil has a might faction (inferno; I know its weak), a magic faction (dungeon), and a misc faction (necropolis)
-each is the thematic opposite of it's rival
neutral has two might factions, one offense oriented, one defense oriented
expansions added two more neutral factions, a magic one (conflux), and a misc one (cove)
cove is all water/move themed, so my bastion would be another neutral misc faction, but desert/move themed

How does nordheim fit in? Let's say we agree and change tower to desert (or better yet, wasteland like homm2)

[Anonymous No.6539067]

>>6539042
actually, you know, wasteland and "rough" would be too similar

castle: grass (plains)
rampart: grass (forests)
tower: snow

stronghold: rough/wasteland
bastion: sand (desert)
conflux: "highlands" (gay)
cove: swamp (water), I think it could be "sand (water)" just as easily
fortress: swamp

inferno: lava
necropolis: dirt
dungeon: subterranean

[Anonymous No.6539187]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyQF8lmRJdo

[Anonymous No.6539517]

>>6534792
I'm seriously curious (because I'm at the same kind of conundrum).

[Anonymous No.6539536]

>>6539517
>>6539014

[Anonymous No.6539542]

Anyone else get this song stuck in their head all the time? I haven't played through 3 in years and I still find myself humming it every now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi5tsY6PwDA

[Anonymous No.6539569]

I'd like to see another snow town. All those assets customized for just that terrain, and it's used by one town.
Would be way better than steampunk cowboys.

[Anonymous No.6539637]

>>6532951
If only there were a few more colors.

Cove could be a pirate flag, fortress could be a dark mossy green (opposite of pink, which is conflux), and bastion could be yellow.

[Anonymous No.6539790]

>>6539637
maybe white for a snow town?

[Anonymous No.6540054]

>>6538717
The hota vs sod autism of the last several threads chased off most of the remaining MM posters. There is some discussion in the dungeon crawler thread >>6505494

[Anonymous No.6540356]

>>6539187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABvrYmQyoQ

[Anonymous No.6540358]

>>6537998
thats dwarves in h5 and they suck

>>6538170
fuck off retard, desert faction like that is retarded, are they gonna have boars, trolls and enchanters too

>>6538567
>imams
>medusa with bow
>manticore

>>6539010
>>6539014
this is fucking retarded, absolute dogshit, i expected to see a giant scarab becasuse why the fuck not

>>6539042
fuck off homm5, muslim wizards are a no-no

>>6539042
tower works as a snow faction because none of its occupiers are actualy natives - its a wizard sanctuary guarded by an army of animated statues, summoned beings from other relms and litteral slaves

>>6539569
like what then, fuck vikangz

[Anonymous No.6540363]

>>6539067
Cove's native terrain should have been Water imho

[Anonymous No.6540367]

>>6539042
>gremlins are pretty russian
Lolwut. They're dressed in generic faux-medieval-western-european clothes and come from WW2 britbong pilot folklore. How the fuck are they "pretty russian"?

[Anonymous No.6540372]

>>6540367
they are jewish

[Anonymous No.6540375]

Egypt faction makes sense because the aesthetic is already established in the lore

[Anonymous No.6540384]

>>6540375
>lazy shit is okay because the creators were previously lazy

might aswell add an african faction with witch doctors zebras and elephants

[Anonymous No.6540495]

>>6540384
>I am an obtuse piece of shit, because I'm an obtuse piece of shit

[Anonymous No.6540496]

>>6540375
>>6540384
Pyramids have been around since the start of the series, and were an especially big part of Xeen.

[Anonymous No.6540504]

>>6540384
But what about a witch doctor riding a zebra?

[Anonymous No.6540530]

>>6540372

[Anonymous No.6540603]

>>6540384
Still has more of a basis than factory lmao

[Anonymous No.6540607]

>>6540495
>>6540496
doesent mean its okay to rip off egypt and turn it into a faction, fuck off

>>6540504
that will be their magic hero

>>6540530
think about it, you know it makes sence - there were alot of jews in russia

[Anonymous No.6540743]

>>6540607
Be gone and stay gone

[Anonymous No.6540813]

>>6540743
kys yourself anime nigger, go suck on dracon's bbc and maybe it will flow over you like the nile at spring

[Anonymous No.6540865]

castle (Whitemoon, Armitage, Highcastle, Propylon)
rampart (Emerald Moor, Gladeroot, Rainhaven, Elfwind)
tower (Athenaeum, Cloudspire, Mystos, Fallenstar)
stronhold (Drago Breach, Rockwarren, Battlement, Kragg)
fortress (Mosswood, Deadfall, Lostmoor, Edgewater)
cove (Jollyroger Bay, Black Lagoon, Skullcove, Crossbones)
conflux (Valtara)
Inferno (Tartarus, Abaddon, Gehenna, Cinderspire)
dungeon (Darkhold, Deepshadow, Evernight, Chillwater)
necro (Cessation, Sanctum, Terminus, Haunt's Wind)

dunno what I'd call the bastion towns if they existed

[Anonymous No.6540879]

>>6540367
they look like they just finished a parade in moscow

[Anonymous No.6541079]

>>6537827
I also do not hate any of the HoMM games (I have not played the first one). I enjoyed playing through the campaigns of all of the games. I even liked some concepts a lot (I loved the aqua Japanese town). But I only return to 3 and to a lesser extent, 5.

[Anonymous No.6541087]

>>6537936
That is exactly what etherlods were.

[Anonymous No.6541114]

>>6538180
Wow, it even had lame pirates. So ahead of its time.

[Anonymous No.6541140]

>>6540358
Show us where did the muslim wizard touched you anon.

[Anonymous No.6541242]

>>6540865
>map in game.png
I remember you posting that map at some point in the past. Did you add some other features than just the landmasses and towns? I'd like to try it out
>dunno what I'd call the bastion towns if they existed
Bastion is a sand-themed city, right? If so, some of the names used for Academy towns in Heroes V would suit it well:
>http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/academy_town_specs.shtml
Then again, you could go with the way you named all those other towns and use compound words or words borrowed from Greek, Roman, Arabian or some other Mythology.

P.S. Concerning H5's towns, I just want to say that I really liked the idea that towns themselves would have a specialty; it makes them feel a tad more unique than what we got in the previous installments.

[Anonymous No.6541243]

>>6540743
roody poo

>>6541140
>gargoyles
>stone golems
>titans
fuck off nival, go worship rocks somewhere else

[Anonymous No.6541246]

>>6541242
Is THAT a hecking EGYPT TOWN? EPIC EPIC EPIC! THIS IS WHAT THE GAME NEEDS, EPIC!

[Anonymous No.6541536]

>>6541243
Just curious, what else do you fear except rocks? Hot weather? Facial hair? Color green? Digits?

[Anonymous No.6541623]

I'm playing Warcraft 3 reforged and it's crazy how much it looks like HOMM6, which one ripped who ?
>Human and Castle factions are literally similar
>Necro and Undead: same
>Orcs and Orc faction: same
all the unit design and looks of building etc are really similar

[Anonymous No.6541626]

>>6541246
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.6541647]

>>6541623
Anon...you do know that World of Warcraft, a huge game whose style (cartoony over the top/bad Warhammer fantasy) was more or less the same as WC3, had and still has a strong visual influence on many fantasy settings? Most notably with extreme pauldronitis to make fighters look cool.
Also
>WC3 came out in 2002
>HoMM 6 came out in 2011
>who "ripped off" who

[Anonymous No.6541668]

>>6540356
what are the odds that I just finished jerking off to that vn?

[Anonymous No.6541715]

>>6541647
>WC3 came out in 2002
Read his post again.

[Anonymous No.6541790]

Bought HoMM 3 on GOG a couple of days ago, been enjoying the fuck out of it bros.

[Anonymous No.6541791]

>>6541715
>Being this much of an idiot
Not him, but you can't be seriously this dense

[Anonymous No.6541851]

>>6541242
No, I haven't touched it since the last time I posted it. I'll get back into homm sometime and do more on it, but I can't say when.

The other names mostly come from the game itself. I made up the cove ones because the HotA guys suck at it. I'm not sure if Valtara is a conflux name or not, because those names suck too.

Looking at these academy names, I can't say I like them; they don't fit the rest since as you say they aren't mostly compound english words like the other town names from the game.

sun, sand, stone, oasis, dry, bright, etc

>your pic

"sand castle" kek

[Anonymous No.6542153]

>>6541790
MM3 is a better game than HOMM3

[Anonymous No.6542416]

>>6541791
>Being this much of an idiot
You can't seriously be this dense.

[Anonymous No.6542465]

Why does this tranny janny keep deleting my posts. Okay mr jannie you are right i moded in a new egypt faction to apolagize for beign a naughty anon and for everyone to enjoy!

You'll find the file at https://www.blacked.com/new

[Anonymous No.6542963]

New Factory renders

[Anonymous No.6542965]

[Anonymous No.6542982]

>>6542965
thx I hate it

[Anonymous No.6543025]

>>6542963
>>6542965
release /when/

[Anonymous No.6543067]

>>6540356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRpCrulisww

[Anonymous No.6543086]

>>6542963
>>6542965
Just stop

[Anonymous No.6543214]

>>6532026
Muh pirates

[Anonymous No.6543380]

Someone do Picolan getting fucked by a cowboy

[Anonymous No.6543646]

>play random Map in HoTa
>monster strength on normal
>border guard is 10 - 19 upgraded lvl 7s

Is there any way to fix this? It has happened on more than one Map

[Anonymous No.6543738]

>>6534423
1) Undead are still busted in RoE
2) When it comes to Disciples, there are basically only two active mods - a Russian one and a Polish one
The Russian one is Hopвeжcкaя Cёмгa mod and is a continuiation of DOM's mod, it focuses on rebalancing the game and adding new items, hero skills and upgrade paths. Lots of immunities were remade into wards, while keeping the spirit of the original (for example Inquisitor still has immunity to paralysis specifically, but only a ward towards general Mind source), all heroes now have double attack (with damage lowered to compensate) so you can attack and then use a potion on the same turn, there are new item class (Relics, uses the same slot as Magic Books), pretty much all items have been reworked, often to include both upsides and downsides instead of just straight upsides. While I disagree with some of the author's choices it's still a pleasant breath of fresh air. Keep in mind though, the mod is managed by 1 guy, so most of the new units are just palette swaps of existing sprites.
You can get it at https://norvezskayasemga.wixsite.com/d2bfwmod - there is an english version, but the translation is a bit shitty, manageable though. This download also includes opengl wrapper that makes the game run much better nadn more stable on newer windows and allolws to adjust game speed, making it look super smooth.

As for the Polish one - it's called "dzieje nevendaar disciples 2", and that's all I know, never tried it myself.

[Anonymous No.6543751]

>>6543380
Fuck off with this shit meme

[Anonymous No.6543770]

>>6537936
This literally existed. I swear.
I can't think of the name at all, tho.
>Multiple factions
>different commanders/ heroes
>Card game + Hexagonal board
>CLEAN pixel art sprites

I wish I remembered what it was called tho.

[Anonymous No.6543779]

>>6543770
>>6537936
FOUND IT!

It's called Duelyst, and it died, sadly. Maybe there's a Discord or something with a crack.

[Anonymous No.6543806]

>>6543646
Did you use a specific sample?

[Anonymous No.6543854]

>>6543806
>sample
it's called "template"
and yeah, strength of guards could be set inside a specific template so general setting won't affect it.

BTW New unit was announced for Factory
(but we've already new about it from day 1)

[Anonymous No.6543858]

>>6543854
>skipping arms day

[Anonymous No.6543865]

>>6543858

[Anonymous No.6543880]

>>6543751
Hi Picolan

[Anonymous No.6543883]

>>6543854
I love how gorgeous and colorful it is, but why did they choose to make it 4 limbed instead of serpentine? We already have so many 4 limbed dragons, and coatls are feathered snakes. Odd choice.

Aside from that though I love how festive it looks

[Anonymous No.6543897]

>>6543854
The fuck? How does that fit in the rest of the factory?

[Anonymous No.6543901]

So, here's Factory's lineup.

>Before turning to the detailed description of the Couatl, let's focus on, perhaps, the key concept of the town’s lineup. By now it is already known that ideologically, the Factory is the town of artificers - inventors capable of creating their own designs powered by their engineering prowess, but also of subjugating nature itself; forcing its laws and natural resources to work for the benefit of technological progress. The town’s lineup is a clear illustration of this idea. It can be tentatively divided into two "development branches": the branch of nature and its improvement and the branch of technological creativity:

>The idea of improving the nature, shown on the left side of the chart, manifests through upgrading the units: harmless Halfling farmers turn into Grenadiers armed with explosive charges, crude but quite real. Armadillos, wild inhabitants of the Wastelands, can be upgraded into Bellwether Armadillos, a meticulously bred race of especially strong and hardy animals. Sandworms already are strong and scary enough to terrorize mining towns on the plains of Jadame; when upgraded, they become genuine killing machine, artificially re-evolved courtesy of the legendary warlock Agar. Finally, the Couatls are rare, fragile, but legendary jungle dwellers who have almost vanished off the face of Enroth; the upgraded version on them is the Crimson Couatl, a lost species restored by Factory scientists and clad in durable armor. As with everything described above, the expedition to find and tame the Couatls will be the theme for an episode in the story of the Factory.

[Anonymous No.6543905]

>>6543901
>Gameplay-wise, the concept of two development branches will mean that the player will be able to relatively quickly move up the single selected branch of the tree. The priorities and specifics of a particular map may hint at leaning towards the “technical” or “natural” options. However, there’s always the option to spend some more game days and resources on building your town all the way up and taking advantage of the full breadth of tactical possibilities the Factory can offer.

>In the previous article about the Dreadnought, more attentive readers could notice that the unit’s tier was not announced. It read: "One doesn't have to be a visionary to guess its level in the town's lineup, but the specifics will be made public only with the announcement of the next unit." And now the time has come for that announcement, along with the confirmation that the Dreadnought is a Tier 7 unit of the Factory.

>However, it will not be the only one. In fact, the Factory will have two Tier 7 creatures: the Dreadnought and the Couatl.

>Unlike in Heroes IV, they will not be alternative options the player decides on and constructs the dwelling he likes more or can afford. Both Tier 7 dwellings of the Factory will be available for construction in any town by default. The only issue is availability of funds and choice of strategy.

>It would be a good time to ask the question here - How do Couatls even relate to the general aesthetics of the Factory? Is it only by the fact that some details of the town’s design refer to the aesthetics of the Old West, the region located not far off? No, that would be a wrong assumption. Their actual connection is through Art Deco style, spoken about at length in previous articles. Surprising as it may be, Mesoamerican motifs are among the basic elements of the Art Deco style.

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39830&pagenumber=423
Full article at bottom of page

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6543910]

>>6543897
SERPENTARIUM

like, I guess they grow em there

[Anonymous No.6543921]

>>6543905
"I really wanted to make couatls a unit, so I did it. I don't care if it doesn't fit in at all. Also, the town has to be special snowflake in some completely and utterly broken way so they get two t7's."

[Anonymous No.6543927]

>>6543921
this is going to be 11th town. Do we really need another completely "normal" town in a game where most factions plays the same anyway?

Besides... Nature from H4 had two top-tier units at the same time too. It was even more "special" since every town had 8 creatures and nature had 16, like 2 towns.

[Anonymous No.6543931]

>>6543921
Come on anon, where's your sense of fun? Besides, it's not that broken to have two tier 7 units. By the time you finally build your second tier 7 dwelling there your opponent will probably be ready to rush you with all the behemoths he accumulated and paid for during all the time it took you.

[Anonymous No.6543934]

>>6543927
>Nature from H4 had two top-tier units at the same time too
Are you implying it was a good design choice?

[Anonymous No.6543938]

>>6543934
I don't recall anyone having any problems with it. It was a fun feature.

Also you can have 2 lvl 7 units in game right now. With Dungeon's portal. Capture only lvl7 dwellings on map and all your dungeon towns will grant you two lvl7 creatures

[Anonymous No.6543945]

>>6543738
Thanks, I'll give that mod a try. I also found this English mod https://www.moddb.com/mods/d2-nevendaar-rebalanced which sounds promising so I'll give them both a go.

[Anonymous No.6543952]

>>6543921
Yeah this
>docentpicolancowboybuttsex.png

[Anonymous No.6543957]

>>6543938
>I don't recall anyone having any problems with it.
Are you fucking serious?

[Anonymous No.6543958]

>>6543921
Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Anonymous No.6543960]

>>6543883
Fits right in at the Factory Pride Parade

[Anonymous No.6543962]

>>6543957
I'd like to hear the problem then

[Anonymous No.6543964]

Replace gunslingers with couatls and you've maybe fixed 60% of whats wrong with Factory instead of giving them two T7s which is unequivocally full retard

[Anonymous No.6543969]

>>6543380
>>6543952
How does Picolan look like?

[Anonymous No.6543970]

>>6543921
>>6543952
>>6543960
Imagine seething over "Howdy pardner" lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRLED8AvVvQ

Factory can't come soon enough

[Anonymous No.6543972]

>>6543969

[Anonymous No.6543975]

>The ability of the basic Couatl will be invulnerability. Once per battle, the player will be able to engage full invulnerability state for the stack of Couatls for one round, using a dedicated button in the interface. Roughly speaking, the Couatls will simply skip a round, but no opponent's stack (or magic) will be able to cause them any damage meanwhile.
Jesus fucking Christ you retards

[Anonymous No.6543978]

>>6543972
Strong start based anon, someone post the HotA dev team pic

[Anonymous No.6543983]

>>6543970
>t.artist has obviously never been in a desert/arid environment

[Anonymous No.6543984]

>>6543975
Looks like a useless gimmick honestly.

[Anonymous No.6543989]

>>6543975
It's really not that good Anon, just OK. Maybe a bit gimmicky in some setups. The upgraded version is slightly better and could see some use, but is likely going to be really expensive.

Phoenixes are supreme still.

[Anonymous No.6543992]

>>6543964
so was NWC full retard too?

[Anonymous No.6543998]

>>6543983
It's a fantasy setting with the orange western-ish aspects exaggerated a bit to separate it from sand and rough and give a more fantastical feel, it looks fine.

[Anonymous No.6544000]

>>6543992
In Heroes 4? Yes, 100%.

[Anonymous No.6544002]

>>6543983
> this poster has obviously never played HOMM games

[Anonymous No.6544008]

>>6544002
Leave your brass out in the desert and watch how dust free it stays

[Anonymous No.6544009]

>>6543969
>>6543972
Picolan is sunglasses and scarf

[Anonymous No.6544016]

>>6543998
This. Honestly my main issue is that the models look too clean. They still feel like 3D models instead of sprites.

>>6544008
Also this.

[Anonymous No.6544024]

>>6544008
>your steam-powered robutts aren't realistic enough!
Oh, really?

[Anonymous No.6544031]

>>6543854
>>6543883
I'm lukewarm on the rest of the line-up but I'm really liking this one

[Anonymous No.6544035]

>>6544024
I think they're shit too

[Anonymous No.6544041]

>>6544009
And he humbly allowed the HotA team to use his own likeness for the protagonist of the Factory campaign!

[Anonymous No.6544043]

>>6544009
Do Picolan and fat cowboy hat for Black Dragon score

[Anonymous No.6544045]

>>6544035
I think H3 is a shit game in general.

[Anonymous No.6544058]

>>6543905
So if I understand this correctly it's a choice between Tiers
>1, 3, 5 and 7
or
>2, 4, 6 and 7
Which is an interesting idea. While mapmaking I've been experimenting with that too when giving each starting different extra dwellings (e.g. two Tier 2 dwellings and one Tier 4 dwelling vs. one Tier 3 dwelling and one Tier 5 dwelling).

In larger maps this choice will become obsolete since you eventually gather enough resources to build both paths. I'm not sure how I feel about this. It could make the town insanely OP in any map above L.

I also suspect that when the town is released, the player community will take less 24 hours to determine which of the two paths is the objectively better one.

[Anonymous No.6544059]

>>6544009
Remove Hota from Might & Magic threads.

[Anonymous No.6544079]

>>6544059
Uh, hello, based department?

[Anonymous No.6544082]

>>6544041
Not the protagnist. The forum post announcing this character specifically states that he's a minor characters.

[Anonymous No.6544084]

>>6544059
Holy shit you've won Heroes of Might and Magic

[Anonymous No.6544089]

>>6544082
Shh anon don't disturb the circlejerk.

[Anonymous No.6544092]

>>6543992
Oh hello Tevye, browsing 4chan again?
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39830&pagenumber=424

[Anonymous No.6544097]

>>6543854
>>6543883
Strange choice to go full rainbow before reverting to the town's usual color palette with the upgrade. Other than that I like what I see.

[Anonymous No.6544127]

Speaking of Factory. Did they show the heroes yet? I only know that Agar is supposed to be in it.

[Anonymous No.6544131]

>>6544082
>specifically states that he's a minor character
That self-congratulatory-sounding bio certainly doesn't set him up as a minor character. Compare that to someone like Sir Mulich
>Generally stoic, Sir Mullich is prone to spasmodic fits of uncoordinated excitement believed to intimidate his troops into working faster
It's David Mullich's meme self-insert that refers to his role as a project manager and is disabled in normal games by default.

Still, I'll give the HotA team a benefit of a doubt here.

[Anonymous No.6544138]

>>6544127
Didn't Agar die in MM6?
>who cares you're just not smart enough to understand

[Anonymous No.6544142]

>>6544041
I don't see the similarity

[Anonymous No.6544148]

>>6544138
He got better.

[Anonymous No.6544150]

>>6544138
Agar had become a power lich but he's in an optional dungeon without any quests in MM6, so there probably isn't a canon answer for whether he was slain by the party or not.

[Anonymous No.6544152]

>>6544142
Look a little closer.

[Anonymous No.6544156]

>>6544142
I never have either, but other people say they do--not really something you can argue against.

>>6544152
If he didn't have a soul patch, nobody would have said anything.

[Anonymous No.6544161]

>>6544142
It's literally him.

[Anonymous No.6544163]

>>6544138
I think so although it's a bit tricky with characters from the earliest games. NWC had a habit of reusing names. Did you know that the Crag Hack from Isles of Terra who later joined Kastore is a different person than the Crag Hack from Homm3? Weird stuff.

[Anonymous No.6544171]

>>6544161
Factory guy
>white skin and shoulder-length wavy brown hair and soul patch
Docent
>tan skin and chin-length straight black hair and chin beard
Only similarity I see is that scowl of mild disgust desu

[Anonymous No.6544174]

>>6544163
Yeah but the one never answered but that I assumed:
Alamar is Alamar from HoMM1?

[Anonymous No.6544187]

>>6544156
>If he didn't have a soul patch
And, you know, pretty much identical facial structure.
>nobody would have said anything
Because most people don't know or care how any of the HotA devs look like, including myself.

What I am concerned about is seeing developers adding self-inserts that aren't there for meme value, as it hints at them playing favorites or otherwise jeopardizing the integrity and internal consistency of the story line, lore etc.

[Anonymous No.6544279]

>>6544187
I feel like you've given more thought to your self insert conspiracy theory than Docent did to any of his changes regarding balance and Resistance skill.

[Anonymous No.6544310]

Are there any redeeming qualities to HOMM7 ?
I could never play it for more than 20 mins, wherease HOMM6 is fine for me.
Is there anything good at some point?

[Anonymous No.6544343]

>>6544310
I wanted to say the Water/Asian faction which is not something that's totally generic and boring for once, but that was Heroes 6 wasn't it.

What about Lost Tales of Axeoth? Haven't played it myself but revisiting the original lore must be pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.6544347]

>>6544343
That's a faction that would've been nice in homm3. Water based but not stereotypical pirate. Though I hate the creature design and colour palette.

[Anonymous No.6544506]

>still no frog faction

[Anonymous No.6544510]

>>6541715
Anon...that is a remaster that kept most of the original WC3 aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.6544536]

So, now that the dust has settled, Couatls or Juggernauts?

https://www.strawpoll.me/20422771

[Anonymous No.6544572]

>>6544536
Gunslingers

[Anonymous No.6544619]

>>6544536
lvl 7 construct, hands down

[Anonymous No.6544639]

>>6528035
I'm pretty suck at this game, but what do people think about Fortress? I see a lot of people think it's bad, while others claim it's good and that everyone else needs to "learn how to play them" but never elaborates on how exactly you do. To me, they seem to have a couple really neat units (like the gorgons and dragonflies) but the rest of their units seem kind of weak or rely on weird effects that never really pay off like petrification or poison (I'm still not sure what this does, 30% of a stack's total health over 3 turns? Or is it 30% of the first unit?), or maybe I'm just unlucky since they rarely seem to activate for me. I'm also a huge sucker for the whole "swamp team" aesthetic, but I know everyone else here is too, so it's barely worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.6544714]

>>6543380
Not really related, but I made this for a friend a while back.

[Anonymous No.6545215]

>rushing is already the best choice
>Armageddon's Blade missions give you enough troops to do mission
I guess Oblivion's Edge could slow down a bit without Dimensional Mirror, but it always felt weird.
What's your favourite campaign? (Kind of) recently played through all of the campaigns, starting with SOD (which probably wasn't the best decision, especially picking Hack and Slash). Dragon's Blood, Festival of Life and Dragon Slayer are probably my top 3. Dragon Slayer is a bit repetitive with the map clear (Rust Dragons particularly), but last mission peak ascending was great. Ordwald in Blood of the Dragon Father was a surprising challenge, and Festival is nice mix of time-based solo and fights with AI.
I'm trying to remember if there's any campaign that couldn't qualify as a "power trip" (once you get your uberhero), but the closest are probably ROE small campaigns, which aren't that interesting.

[Anonymous No.6545306]

>>6544639
Dragonflies let you have max speed scouts that ignore the swamp terrain penalty very early on.
The town is built of little more than gold, wood, and ore so it's quick to build.
You can build the wyvern dwelling on day 1 or day 2 depending on what you start with to get tier 6 units earlier than any other town.
Dragonfly hives, a common RMG map building, give you more wyverns and only fortress can upgrade those.
You're guaranteed to get Tazar.
Hydras are a no retal multi hit unit that can do absurd damage if the opponent is not careful.
Mighty Gorgons exist.

Overall it's an average faction. It's definitely not shit tier like Inferno, but it can't match high-tier towns of Dungeon and Castle.

[Anonymous No.6545481]

>>6545306
>high-tier
>Dungeon

You mean the town that is incredibly expensive and has the worst lvl 6 unit?

[Anonymous No.6545507]

>>6545481
You mean the town with mana vortex, summoning portal, some of the best heroes in the game including the single best one (Gunnar), extremely strong t5 and t7 units, and a very good start thanks to harpy hags and t3 & t4 shooters?

[Anonymous No.6545610]

>>6545481
Is Manticore really worse than Cyclops?

[Anonymous No.6545657]

Some Wasteland things from the Russian Forums

>Vultures were considered as a neutral unit to "help the wasteland". Whether this is referring to in a gameplay sense like Nomads, or for a mapmaking and worldbuilding sense I can't tell. The plans for them were dropped though
>Also the Steel Golem was the result of just 10 days of work from concept t implementation
>The unrevealed 4th Unit will not be humanoid (people over there are speculating a Tank)
>Gunslinger/Bounty Hunter (Tier 6 unit) is getting a redesign which is why it has been absent in PR material lately
>The Sandworm will be a semi-teleporter unit that digs to teleport, and when it can't will crawl on land. What's confusing is I can't tell if the translator is confused or if there's some big context I'm missing. On one hand I swear it's stated that he can do it just about anywhere, with nonstandard battlefields like clouds and ships, but then it's mentioned otherwise that he can't on these maps. Regardless, there is a notable mention that, quote, "There will probably be one case where the worm will have to go on foot as part of the standard online game, but more on that later."
>Troglodytes are getting an updated turning animation

[Anonymous No.6545670]

>>6544059
Perfect.

[Anonymous No.6545719]

>>6545657
>10 days to palette swap iron golems
Lmfao stop posting this shit here

[Anonymous No.6545725]

>>6545610
No, he doesn't know what he's talking about. You can trade your creatures for EXP and here's ratio for these creatures:
Scorpicore 195
Manticore 190
Vyvern monarch 185
King cyclop 180
Vyvern 165
Cyclop 155

[Anonymous No.6545737]

>>6544310
>Are there any redeeming qualities to HOMM7 ?
There really isn't. It's badly made.

>>6544343
>What about Lost Tales of Axeoth? Haven't played it myself but revisiting the original lore must be pretty cool.
If you like H4 textboxes and want some Axeoth fanservice they're alright but they're Julien Pirou's map designs which means they're pretty garbo gameplay-wise because that lad doesn't understand Heroes and wants it to be an adventure RPG rather than a strategy. There's maps that are literal straight lines.

[Anonymous No.6545738]

>>6545725
Yeah I was thinking of Cyclops building cost too, the melee penalty, slow speed, situational special. Manticore isn't great but Scorpicore is decent, and Wyverns being fragile doesn't say anything about how easy they are to get

[Anonymous No.6545746]

>>6545719
Hello fellow troglodyte.
It's not as easy as open unit in Gimp and adjust it's color.
Steel golem has a new anddifferent 3d model. On a closer inspection the only similar to iron golem things are:
- animation (which is logical since all golems share same animations)
- humanoid shape

[Anonymous No.6545776]

>>6544639
It has the best aesthetic, music and some amazing monsters but the total lack of shooters is a big turn-off for me

[Anonymous No.6545825]

>>6545746
Hello Don_ko (or Tevye?). Go back to VK with your shitty "pirates and cowboys xDDDDDDDD" mod and never come back. Advertise your """faithful continuation""" on Facebook, Pikabu or 2ch.

[Anonymous No.6545840]

>carelessly explore the map
>this guy appears near your castle at the start of the second month
What do?

[Anonymous No.6545859]

>>6545825
lmao, imagine getting this upset over a cowboy

[Anonymous No.6545863]

>>6545657
> The unrevealed 4th Unit will not be humanoid
Based hota devs. So out of 8 creatures only 2 are humans. and other 2 are bipedal non-humans. Rest are classic monster troops. Great!

[Anonymous No.6545864]

>>6545825
Don_ko Tevye Docent
literally whos???

[Anonymous No.6545870]

>>6545840
>mfw the mini map looks like a demon rubbing hand
what

[Anonymous No.6545875]

>>6545864
Slavic homosexuals who won't stop advertising here and praising their own work

[Anonymous No.6545890]

>>6545875
Advertising it a bit is okay, the problem is that they reject any and all criticism.

[Anonymous No.6545895]

>>6545875
> homm thread
> news about the most popular mod out there
> homosexuals who won't stop advertising here and praising their own work

maybe hate has gone a little too far.
Also you say "homosexuals" like it's a bad word.

[Anonymous No.6545903]

>>6545890
Let's make a list of actual problems with hota then.

Not some resistance autistic arguments all over again.

[Anonymous No.6545912]

>>6545875
Anon, it's not healthy to get this upset at new content

[Anonymous No.6545918]

>>6545912
Anon, it's not healthy to shill hard for what is now blatantly ego trip of a creator already infamous for his decisions

[Anonymous No.6545919]

>>6545895
>>6545903
>>6545912
Speaking of new content

[Anonymous No.6545920]

>>6545903
>actual problems with hota
>Not some resistance

[Anonymous No.6545925]

>>6545859
lmao, imagine shitting up the game for your own whims and then pushing it as obligatory meta

[Anonymous No.6545928]

>>6545925
Anon, the base game is still there, we've had it for 20 years. Just don't play with Factory enabled then if you really hate it that much.

I just don't understand how new content causes this much seething. Did Resistance really mean that much to you?

[Anonymous No.6545931]

Aaaaannnd the thread officially went to shit.

Can't you fucking animals not shit up at least ONE (1) HoMM/MM thread with your HotA bullshit? Both sides of it.
No, you are not ironically baiting. You're just obnoxious.
No, you are not defending your childhood. You're just obnoxious
Just fuck off from HoMM/MM generals. Want to talk your mod, fucking make your own, separate thread, where you can chimp out about it non-stop, away from everyone else.

[Anonymous No.6545935]

>>6545928
This is your brain on HotA
Say no to HotA

[Anonymous No.6545937]

>>6545928
Is this thread called "HotA general"? No? Then fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6545947]

>>6545903
They have a very clear and narrow view of how the game must be played and balance it around that and nothing else.
Why ban orb of inhibition and recanter's cloak, for example?

[Anonymous No.6545951]

>>6545937
O, дapoв хoтaшиз. Ha двoщaх тeбя гoвнoм нaкopмили, тeпepь cюдa пpишeл?

[Anonymous No.6545957]

>>6545951
Oh, great, Russian

[Anonymous No.6545959]

>>6545895
>Also you say "homosexuals" like it's a bad word.
It's Don_ko, 100%, he posted here previosly - the Factory sneak peeks were made by him in previous threads. Goes under nickname "Лeнтяй" on DF2. 3D artist of HotA team. Furfag and patreonwhore - we got him at 2ch, and after that he disspaeared. Well, I guess the same must be done here.

[Anonymous No.6545997]

>>6545931
Everything will go back to normal if HotA talk would be prohibited in MM threads. Also OP is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.6546041]

>>6545959
Jfc

[Anonymous No.6546068]

MOD BAD

[Anonymous No.6546098]

>>6546068
Damage control I see. I hope you find a better luck on Reddit.

[Anonymous No.6546110]

>Damage control I see. I hope you find a better luck on Reddit.

[Anonymous No.6546156]

>>6543970
I like wasteland from homm2, but 3 has "rough" already. What's the justification there?

I like that hobbits belong to a faction now, and I'm fine with them throwing bombs (would fit tower better than gremlins, however).

Another (semi) teleporter is neat, and sand worms have been a staple of fiction since dune.

I like the idea of a t7 construct. I like the word "dreadnought" too; it feels very t7.

I personally like gunslingers as a concept, but they dont belong in homm. Same with flamethrowers, though I think a non-dragon non-t7 firebreather/thrower unit would be welcome.

Coatls do not belong in the factory/cowboy faction.

The armadillo is retarded.

[Anonymous No.6546180]

What do you think about this /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6546207]

>>6546180
Looks familiar for some reason. I can't remember which one, but one of the stock maps has a similar setup.
Doesn't look like a starting area since there's zero mines anywhere and next to no resources. Is it a gimmick map where you have to hire all the goblins from those dwellings and trade them for resources you need to build? If so, I don't think it'll work the way you think it will.

[Anonymous No.6546235]

>>6546180
Nice. Did you make this?
Rough is a very aesthetic terrain. Their mountains and forest are smoother, softer and less square than many others which makes it easier to achieve a natural look.

[Anonymous No.6546249]

>>6546156
>but 3 has "rough" already. What's the justification there?
A new terrain for mapmakers to use and to fit the new faction in. I think Wasteland's art direction has managed to differentiate it well enough from Sand (which is more beaches and Sand Dunes/Egyptian Style Deserts) and Rough (Which has a terrible name, it should've been called Mountain Crag or something).

>>6546180
Nice, extremely aesthetic

[Anonymous No.6546317]

>>6546249
"rough" is just wasteland, it's the same shit; rocky desert

wasteland looks like monument valley, rough looks like nevada or utah or the badlands

[Anonymous No.6546332]

>>6546156
>What's the justification there?
They love homm2.

[Anonymous No.6546338]

>>6545947
For the same reason why Resistance got removed - HotA meta is all about caster supremacy

[Anonymous No.6546353]

>>6546180
Everything looks nice except the retarded wasteland.

[Anonymous No.6546364]

>>6546353
I think it looks nice, it's just redundant. Then again I've always found "dirt" to be a stretch. Dirt could just be a cool-colored desert, like rough.

[Anonymous No.6546382]

>>6546156
>I like wasteland from homm2, but 3 has "rough" already. What's the justification there?
Dirt is just "Grass but it's autumn". Its original purpose was to be Necro turf and some campaign maps reflect that, but in the scenarios they flipped it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6546669]

>>6545959
Oh no, modders who interact with the community

[Anonymous No.6546697]

>>6546669
>begging for money
>interacting with players
pick one, faggot

[Anonymous No.6546703]

>>6546697
The mod is for free, anon.

[Anonymous No.6546706]

>>6546703
And your brain is smooth

[Anonymous No.6546707]

>>6546706
Mad

[Anonymous No.6546710]

>>6546707
At what?
If anything, it's another episode of "HotA faggot miss the point on purpose, thinking he will be le amusing troll".
It's boring. It's overdone. We have this shit 5-6 times per thread, for about two years. Nobody is impressed anymore.

[Anonymous No.6546780]

>>6545840
You are probably just dead, time to restart. They got dimension door and escaped from their island. Several other heroes with hundreds of bone dragons will soon follow.

[Anonymous No.6546791]

>>6546353
>>6546249
Personally I like it a lot. The cacti and oil-ponds are cool and it's way more compatible with the original terrains than Highlands. When I build Highland zones I tend to throw in some stuff from the Grass and Dirt palette in order for it to stand out less. But with Wasteland I can go all in and it looks great. My only gripe is that it doesn't have enough unique locations, also Derrick is just a Water Wheel.

[Anonymous No.6546858]

>>6535416
>Nosferatu
That's a Lich Queen.
Nosferat hero + 5 Elder Vampires are cool, they all have Drain Life Overflow.
Although they rely on one single source (Death) of damage too.

[Anonymous No.6546879]

Is artillery skille worth it? I usually just buy the ballista for to finishing smaller groups

[Anonymous No.6546939]

>>6544009
>Picolan
who?

[Anonymous No.6546982]

>>6546879
It's really medicore. Not good, not something you would want, but alot better than stuff like Scholar, Learning, Eagle Eye, Scouting, etc.

I think it's pretty cool how you can control the towers during a siege, and the cannon is pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6546985]

>>6546939
Chief of the Horn of the Abyss mod crew

[Anonymous No.6546996]

>>6546879
>>6546982
It's a high priority skill for your town guard hero. Towers tend to be super weird with who they choose to target and in smaller battles it can make a huge difference. I've had sieges where I would have survived if it weren't for the towers focusing on the wrong stack.

[Anonymous No.6547032]

>>6546180
>Necropolis on desert/wasteland
I see you are a man of culture.

[Anonymous No.6547054]

>>6543854
Reminds me of Heroes 5 Fortress dragons. It's the same pose and proportions.

The Aztec mask is a nice touch. That's the kind of exotic culture plug that's typical for the series.

[Anonymous No.6547063]

>>6546710
I take it all back when you show me the /vr/ thread where the guy plugged his Patreon (or begged for money as you put it) instead of just sharing Factory sneak peaks. Because as far as I know that never happened.

[Anonymous No.6547098]

>>6546982
Scouting is not an optimal skill perhaps, but it's good, and has much more potential to be useful than artillery.

[Anonymous No.6547703]

>>6543854
Imagine spending hundred of hours working on something for free that looks like a total clusterfuck and will stand out like a sore thumb to the rest of the game

Imagine when the zone guard is a fucking cowboy

Imagine that you say that a rainbow feathered dragon is a part of a "steampunk faction" because of some building in Tulsa, Oklahoma

[Anonymous No.6547812]

>>6546780
I already restarted because both times red had dimension door, through in the first try they didn't teleport out of it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6547885]

>janny deletes my egypt rants and bans me
>janny sleeps when the anti-hota eightball shits up the thread
rly makes you think

>>6545725
>muh xp
meaningless stats apointed by the same people who thought that diplomacy,eagle eye,necromancy and learning are all balanced

>>6545738
cyclops are better, just play hota and ignore the retarded 20 crystal cost in vanila because the devs were on crstal meth at the time and thought it would be funny

>>6545895
faeries belong in the skeleton transofmer anon

>>6546180
its beautiful anon but i think the transition of the wasteland being surrounded by rough looks wierd, imo have the whole peninsula be wasteland and add a mountain range with a few passess, also some reefs and water details

>>6546879
no

[Anonymous No.6547951]

>>6547885
>Non-stop bitching about fags
>Posting in Russian
>J-jannies are bad
Nah, jannies are doing their job and you're a faggot

[Anonymous No.6547962]

>>6547063
you don't understand.
The mere fact of begging for money on patreon means that person is a worthless whore and deserves a ban (if possible) or mocking.

It's disgusting to know this kind of people are making so-called "Hota". No wonder their EGO levels are over the moon.

This is exactly why hotascum should be evicted from this thread.

[Anonymous No.6547986]

>>6547962
>Expecting understanding from a smoothbrain
>Giving him (You)s

[Anonymous No.6547996]

>>6546858
>That's a Lich Queen.
Well, duh. Anon said he got to the fight on his pic with Nosferatu and 5 Deaths, not that his pic is a fight where he has Nosferatu and 5 Deaths. I doubt he took a screenshot when he was 12 y.o. and then keep it all these years. Reading comprehension, motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.6548001]

>>6547885
>cyclops are better, just play hota
That's a big no after the number of threads shit up by their devs

[Anonymous No.6548032]

>>6547986
>samefagging

[Anonymous No.6548043]

>>6547962
So nobody begged for money?
>you don't understand.
All I see is threads getting derailed because some spergs don't like that others are talking about aspects of the game that they don't like, e.g. certain mods.

No one is stopping you from discussing a topic that's not related to HotA. This isn't /v/. Threads are so slow that multiple conversations can happen simultaneously. Actually /HoMM/ is one of the slowest threads of the board most of the time.

Again. No one is stopping you from talking about something else.

Interestingly enough I never see HotAfags get mad when anons discuss non-HotA stuff. Funny how that works.

[Anonymous No.6548056]

>>6548043
Not him but watching two or three of you constantly pitch softball questions to each other
>What do you think of new HotA 'X' here is a poll
>WOW IT'S GREAT
>I LOVE IT BASED HOTA DEVS
gets real tiresome and you deserve to take heat for it because if there's anything I've learned from this it's that you don't come here looking for feedback, only praise.
Stick to drawing furry porn.

[Anonymous No.6548075]

>>6548001
>muh hota boogeyman
its litteraly one resistance fag whining and badmouthing hota becuase he is that autistic

first you need 10 ore for rocs then you need another 20 for the cyclops but also 20! crystals while behemoths are just 10 ore 10 crystal, you cant just fucking pretend and tell me the hota fix wasnt a godsend, where the fuck do i get those 20 crystals from? the stining town doesent even have a proper resource silo!
unless you get extremely lucky with random map resource generation OR you are playing some pussy custom map that gives every player a mine of every resource type - you wont see any cyclops play

>>6547962
>>6547951
>>6547986
(you) have a mental illness

[Anonymous No.6548079]

>>6548056
yeah, because people can't be excited by a new content for the mod they enjoy. HATRED needs to be in the thread to restore fragile balance.

>>6548043
> Interestingly enough I never see HotAfags get mad when anons discuss non-HotA stuff. Funny how that works.

That anon gets butthurt because hota (that he hates with passion) gets positive feedback at all. Funny enough, he wouldn't mind if the thread was only about shitting on hota instead of talking about SoD. Because it's clearly what he's trying to achieve derailing thread in personalities discussions each time there's something about Hota.

[Anonymous No.6548082]

>>6548056
I don't play HotA. It doesn't have the basegame campaigns and I play those.
>Stick to drawing furry porn.
And you to strawmen I guess.

[Anonymous No.6548084]

>>6548075
> where the fuck do i get those 20 crystals from?

Learn to play your fucking game, noob.
Jeezus no wonder hota fags here a so smooth brained

[Anonymous No.6548085]

>>6548075
>"its litteraly one resistance fag whining and badmouthing hota becuase he is that autistic"
>"its litteraly one"
This is the same tactic he used on 2ch - appeal to the non-existent "majority" and all arguments based on the fact that "haters" in the "minority", followed by humiliation. Don't fall for his tricks.

[Anonymous No.6548086]

>>6548075
>those 20 crystals from?
It really depends on the scenario. Some maps are a lot more liberal in sprinkling unguarded resource stacks all over the zone. Those are the maps where you can play Tower and Stronghold with no worries. "Step by Step" is one of those maps for example (pic related)

[Anonymous No.6548090]

>>6548084
>anti-hota fags edit thier maps to start with extra resources

or do you just play on pawn? maybe you have 4 windmills in your starting area and just get crystals from them every week

[Anonymous No.6548092]

>>6548085
Can we conclude that majority of anons in the thread don't like hota and be done with it then?

[Anonymous No.6548094]

>>6548079
>Funny enough, he wouldn't mind if the thread was only about shitting on hota instead of talking about SoD
That's what confuses me. The thread (and /vr/ in general) is so slow that you can easily discuss both without issue.

[Anonymous No.6548095]

>>6548075
It's not just one anon criticizing some of the choices made by the mod creators. I personally don't give a fuck about the resistance change, but I really dislike how they've tilted the balance so heavily in magic's favor. Haha elemental printer goes brrrrr. Want to use might tactics and one of the two artifacts that kneecap my preferred tactics? Well fuck you, that's not how you're supposed to play! Ding dong bannu!

[Anonymous No.6548096]

>>6548095
you have new resistance to stop printer go brrrr

[Anonymous No.6548098]

>>6548056
Pretty much every HotA feature gets discussed and criticized all the time.

However most people are able to do that without sperging retarded meta shit about how HotA devs look weird or are furries or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6548112]

>>6548096
A 30% reduction in spell power sure is a lot compared to completely blocking use of the spells in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6548117]

>>6548092
Yes because their ESL posts make samefagging even easier to spot
>likewise their preemptive accusations against others of samefagging or "it literally one mad resistance poster"

[Anonymous No.6548119]

>>6548095
>enable Interference and Resistance
>enable Recanter's Cloak
>put Orb of Inhibition on the map (heavily guarded) but keep it disabled so nobody lucks out and gets it from Shipwreck Survivor, Warrior's Tomb or random ART4
Is what I'm trying with the map I work on right now. I'm a magefag myself but Might heroes need more shit. When you play Stronghold or Fortress, going full Anti-magic is sometimes your best shot so HotA's current rules weaken those two factions.

[Anonymous No.6548123]

>>6548085
Na sosach, bydlo.

[Anonymous No.6548131]

>>6548119
>sorry you haven't devoted your life to HoMM3 modding, we're not going to give you an easy way to disable options like WoG did because WoG was not made by us and therefore also wrong and stupid

[Anonymous No.6548134]

>>6548131
>easy way to disable options
Tools -> Map Specifications -> Artifacts, Secondary Skills

[Anonymous No.6548139]

>>6548134
Yeah that isn't it, not simple, not intuitive, still have to deal with the diplomacy changes too. Once again legitimate feedback is ignored because you "visionary geniuses" always have a (bad) answer for everything.

[Anonymous No.6548146]

>>6548139
I'm not a dev.
>not simple
You open the editor, go to options and check three boxes. It's done in less than a minute.

>still have to deal with the diplomacy changes
I don't play templates but afaik this is also changeable in the editor.

[Anonymous No.6548152]

>>6548086
>random towns on non randomly generated maps
thats a big yikes from me senpai, if you pick stronghold you would have a big advantage from the rough bias while other factions would be litteraly worse off, imagine randoming a castle/rampart/conflux on a map thats 100% grassland or spawning in a swamp as a non-fortress/cove town

>>6548095
whenever i want to get six milion skeletons i just switch over to SoD

[Anonymous No.6548174]

>>6548152
Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about skeletons.

Also Step by Step is a stock AB map you tard.

[Anonymous No.6548178]

>>6548152
I generally agree, however in the case of "Step by Step" it's justified by Red having a better starting position strategically so the movement penalty is worth it. Also, roads.

[Anonymous No.6548195]

>>6548131
Who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.6548224]

>>6548152
yeah im not too cazy about interferance but its not like i will miss resistance at all, aslong as they put in new content thats actualy good (all the new creatures terrains artifacts and map objects) i will always be pro-hota

so what if its an ab map, again as my post earlier the devs badly balancing the game

>>6548174
yes but if red randoms stronghold he will have the best map spot AND native terrain, +1 on all the units, yum!

call me an autist or whatever but i think towns should stick to their native terrains, fortress does not belong in the underground neither does rampart in the volcano, i liked how the town's screen would change depending on the terrain in heroes 4 and the outside hill textrue in heroes 2

[Anonymous No.6548238]

F U C K
F
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C
K

O F F
F
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[Anonymous No.6548282]

>>6548238

[Anonymous No.6548298]

>>6548238
>couatl_vs_anti-hota_boomer.gif

[Anonymous No.6548423]

>>6548075
well, you can trade your excess wood and ore for it in the marketplace

not early, granted

[Anonymous No.6548470]

[Anonymous No.6548482]

>Wis 3

[Anonymous No.6548490]

>>6548482

[Anonymous No.6548494]

>>6548490
if you're going to change anything, remove fire mans shadow

also how do they ride horses

[Anonymous No.6548502]

>>6548494
Very carefully.

[Anonymous No.6548615]

>>6548075
>There is just one person against resistance changes
Prove it, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6548624]

If you want talk HotA, make separate thread.
If you want talk HoMM/MM, stay around
If you want to shitpost, >>>/b/ is that way

It's all really simple

[Anonymous No.6548647]

>>6548494
The fire that comes from the elemental plane doesn't burn unless you want it to.

[Anonymous No.6548652]

>>6548624
Who are you to tell people what to do?

[Anonymous No.6548656]

>>6548624
This

[Anonymous No.6548678]

>>6548652

Probably the same guy as
>>6545931
And he's right. If the conversations were actually discussing balance and making coherent arguments it would be fine, but it's idiotic shitposting like
>>6545875
>>6546068
>>6546098
that add nothing, but destroy the reasons anyone would come to these threads. Both the haters and defenders of HotA are acting like retards. Keeping the conversation level decent shouldn't be hard to ask, but this shit has continued to escalate for at least the last 2 months.

[Anonymous No.6548709]

What's the best scenario and why is it Outer Provinces?

[Anonymous No.6548763]

>>6548624
Based Marcille poster

[Anonymous No.6548782]

>>6548470
What do the black tiles with white points mean?

[Anonymous No.6548789]

>>6537998
what creatures should it have?

>>6548709
Emerald Isle has always been my favorite for some reason. I wish it was bigger though.

>>6548782
cove factions' black crossbones pirate flag

[Anonymous No.6548801]

>>6546180
Good aesthetic. Part of a bigger map?

[Anonymous No.6549087]

>>6548624
>>6548678
If we can try this at least for the new general I promise not to post Picolan fan art here, nor in the HotA thread, nor attempt to start the next general with the image in question

[Anonymous No.6549162]

>>6549087
Go the fuck out of here.
The problem is having YOU in the thread, not having hota discussions.

> I promise not to post Picolan fan art here
Are you, like, blackmailing as? What a turd.

[Anonymous No.6549168]

>>6549087
>>6549162
> Hey guys please my Ego and I won't shitpost

[Anonymous No.6549173]

>>6528035
Whatcha think of my collection. It has all the maps ect, in pristine condition

[Anonymous No.6549175]

>>6549162
Welp, don't say I didn't try

[Anonymous No.6549186]

imagine if these threads were just comfy posting
haha, wild, I know, but a man can dream

[Anonymous No.6549190]

>>6549162
Is it even possible to blackmail out of the closet furry artists?

[Anonymous No.6549223]

>>6549173
Please have children so you can leave it to them.
Someone has to know what happened.

[Anonymous No.6549228]

>>6549087
Or you can just not do that do anyway, you weirdo

[Anonymous No.6549236]

>>6549173
>original packaging
>pristine condition
Those are practically Unesco World Heritage now. Take good care of them anon.

[Anonymous No.6549240]

>>6549228
Is being immortalized in a 4chan meme any weirder than drawing porn on your Furaffinity account?

[Anonymous No.6549243]

>>6549173
Speaking of old M&M games, do they run ok on Windows 10? I was thinking of getting the collection at Gog (I've only ever played HoMM)

[Anonymous No.6549246]

>>6549243
6 and 7 play ok, I don't know about the older ones

[Anonymous No.6549250]

>>6549246
These are the ones I want to play (also 8 because playing as a Dragon sounds fun). Thanks.

[Anonymous No.6549251]

>>6549250
I was using the GoG versions as well, you should be fine

[Anonymous No.6549273]

>>6549186
Homm is always comfy

[Anonymous No.6549276]

>>6549223
I plan on it
>>6549236
I will. Step mom's dad left them all to me when he died
>>6549243
I dunno i don't have a floppy drive. Those games are on big as floppy disks

[Anonymous No.6549280]

>>6549250
The GOG ones work fine since they are run in DosBox.

[Anonymous No.6549282]

>>6549276
Your stepmom's dad was based

[Anonymous No.6549285]

>>6549282
He literally was. He was a Sargent, a fire chief, and gun toting republican

[Anonymous No.6549287]

>>6549250
Should add that in MM8 you only pick 1 character and find the others along the way rather than start with a full party, so without a mod you can't start out as a dragon. Once you get out of the first zone though you can walk right to a level 5 dragon. The Windows games all work fine as well. The OP pastebin has all the links and downloads.

[Anonymous No.6549301]

How's the 6-8 merge mod these days? Made any good progress?

[Anonymous No.6549302]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPo5LgLJqos

[Anonymous No.6549307]

>>6549287
I need to do another 8 run. I think I only beat it once when it came out (as minotaur lmao) and my second run I think I quit somewhere around THE BEES
What's the most difficult starting character/alliance scheme?

[Anonymous No.6549314]

>>6549302

[Anonymous No.6549317]

>>6549287
>The OP pastebin has all the links and downloads.
Ah I had no idea, thanks.

Shame about the Dragon but I just checked and I think I'll go with Troll or Vampire then. I love it when games offer races other than the typical Humans Elves Dwarves stuff, it's so rare.

[Anonymous No.6549325]

>>6549307
Probably solo minotaur. If you mean full team then some combination of Minotaurs and Vampires. Neither class scales at all and the Vampire promotion is a pain to finish. Trolls are pretty weak too because of how slow their recovery time is, but they eventually get body building, mace paralyze, and regeneration. Clerics, Necromancers, Knights, and Dragons will make things too easy and Dark Elves have too many utility skills for a harder run.

For alliances the Cleric is much harder than the Necromancer, and the dragon/dragon hunter is the exact same quest. I would go dragon just because then you get the Great Wyrm promotion to murder every single dragon slayer in the zone and the fort.

The bees don't even have a quest in that dungeon, just some items you can turn in for cash. The hive in MM8 was horribly designed.

[Anonymous No.6549332]

>>6549317
You get a Vampire in the first city, so go with a troll. You can't get a troll until you have cleared a few zones.

[Anonymous No.6549357]

>>6549301
Never heard of it. Is it a Tale of Two Wastelands kind of mod where you get to transfer your character across games?

[Anonymous No.6549359]

>>6549325
I never really got the Dragon Slayers
>yeah there's this big interstellar war going on and these dragons weren't really bothering anyone and all these elemental portals opened so we came to kill dragons because

[Anonymous No.6549360]

>>6549223
>The kids selling it for 100 bucks the moment anon dies

[Anonymous No.6549363]

>>6549360
That's why you have to be a video game dad and force them to like the things you like
>tfw my kids aren't even getting tv and computers lmao

[Anonymous No.6549369]

>>6549359
The best part is after allying with the dragons. Rather than celebrate that the most powerful creatures are now on your side and the alliance has grown immensely in effectiveness, the merchants' guild complains about losing their trading partner and specialty goods.

[Anonymous No.6549373]

>>6549317
You can use https://grayface.github.io/mm/#MM8-Choose-Party

But it requires a couple other patches linked listed there to make it work.

[Anonymous No.6549395]

>>6549314
That's SoD campaign in a nutshell
>start in Grass zone
>build up army until strong and confident
>enter Dirt zone
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mrGdGMNsv0 starts playing
>Level 36 Gigachad Galthran out of nowhere
I guess the key is rushing but that's not very comfy

[Anonymous No.6549420]

Are MM1-5 worth playing through, or should I skip straight to 6-8?

[Anonymous No.6549423]

>>6549369
YOU CAN ALLY WITH
>The Necromancer's Guild with a functioning city and economy run by veterans of the Restoration War
OR YOU CAN ALLY WITH
>some weirdos hiding in a forest that worship the sun and have staring contests with basilisks

[Anonymous No.6549453]

>>6549420
They are all playable, but if you really need to cut down on number of games - start playing from 4

[Anonymous No.6549470]

>>6549357
Merges 6-8 on 8's engine where you can travel between continents and do their respective quests. Carry your party and items over. So it's basically one game with 3 different campaigns.

Last time I checked it was coming along nicely, but there were some bugs that had a chance of preventing you from progressing. Since all the items from all 3 games can be aquired, that meant some of the armour would look weird on the inventory model where it didnt really overlap right, that was the biggest thing for me but nothing huge.

[Anonymous No.6549551]

>>6549470
I've played it a couple times. It works ok most of the time, though there are occasionally issues with the special merge quests they put into the game.

[Anonymous No.6550019]

>>6548615
>>6548624
>>6548656
>>6548763
>>6549162
>me no likey hota!

[Anonymous No.6550035]

>>6550019
What do you think of the Factory T8 unit?

[Anonymous No.6550240]

>>6550035
>donko
huh i guess he really is fucking mentally ill, even worse if he's a russian since they are one of the few white people who havent fallen under the judeo-homo agenda

regardless of his faggotry, i really like the new wasteland and highlands terrain the mod has added, cove is okay and i really dont care aobut resistance because it was a shit skill anyway - genuinely cant understand the hatred for it

pic related, wasteland part of my map thats not finished and will probably never get finished anyway

[Anonymous No.6550252]

>>6550240

[Anonymous No.6550826]

>>6550252
That looks like an interesting map. Is it an adventure map? There's only one faction and it's labyrinthine enough that it'd make sense.

[Anonymous No.6550838]

>>6528035
Where can I find maps for HoMM 1?

[Anonymous No.6550849]

>>6550826
yeah but its not like i'll ever find the effort to actualy finish it, the h3 editor is so poor on scripting that its driving me mad and i dont want to get into ERA shenanigans

[Anonymous No.6550854]

>>6550035
Why are you posting furryshit on /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6550869]

>>6550854
This is Factory concept art from the HotA team

[Anonymous No.6550870]

>>6550869
It's not. Why do you like to post furryshit on /vr/, anon?

[Anonymous No.6550874]

>>6550870
Yes it is. Donko from the HotA team drew that Factory concept art.

[Anonymous No.6550879]

>>6550874
It's not /vr/ related. Why are you a schizo who likes to shitpost outside /b/, anon?

[Anonymous No.6550880]

>>6550879
Again, it is Factory concept art from Donko. Why not ask him about it?

[Anonymous No.6550881]

>>6550880
Why should I? I'm not interested in furryshit. Why are you posting furryshit on /vr/, anon?

[Anonymous No.6550883]

>>6550881
Don't shoot the messenger, I am just posting Factory concept art, which is /vr/ related. Rumor is the next HotA town will be neutral and anthro based.

[Anonymous No.6550887]

>>6550883
You're the only one who's posting furryshit on /vr/. The thread was doing okay until you showed up. So yes, actually shoot the messenger. Why do you love furryshit, anon?

[Anonymous No.6550889]

>>6550887
It is not furryshit anon, it is painstakingly handcrafted HotA concept art, which obviously belongs in the HoMM thread. I refer any of your further questions to Donko

[Anonymous No.6550890]

>>6550889
And yet you are the only person posting furryshit in here. Why is that, anon?

[Anonymous No.6550892]

>>6550890
It is not furryshit, it is a render concept drawing. It isn't like I posted Donko My Little Pony art, though I am sure the HotA team could make a very compelling argument that an MLP themed town would be lore friendly

[Anonymous No.6550894]

>>6550892
>It is not furryshit
It is. Why are you denial, anon? You're a furry and everybody knows it.

[Anonymous No.6550895]

>>6550894
I am not Donko, I am just reposting his concept art. Why do you senselessly hate HotA?

[Anonymous No.6550896]

>>6550895
>I am not Donko, I am just reposting his concept art.
Correct. You are the guy who's posting furryshit on /vr/. What do you call someone who enjoys posting furryshit in a non-furry board? A furry.

[Anonymous No.6550897]

>>6550896
It is Factory concept art you schizo

[Anonymous No.6550901]

>>6550897
It is furryshit you furry.

[Anonymous No.6550902]

>>6550901
Why not ask Donko about being a furry then? I am just reposting HotA concept art.

[Anonymous No.6550906]

>>6550902
Exactly, you're reposting furryshit on /vr/. Why?

[Anonymous No.6550910]

>>6550906
I am beginning to suspect that you are a furry who is projecting, as all your posts and thoughts seem to be about furries.

[Anonymous No.6550913]

While the jannie is away i may aswell repost my EGYPT TOWN ORIGINAL CONTENT DONT STEAL concept!

Native terrain: Sand

tier 1: Rouge -> Boar Rider
tier 2: Noman -> Mujahideen
tier 3: Mummy -> Brigitte Macron
tier 4: Scarab -> Another Scarab
tier 5: Gold Golem -> Diamond Golem
tier 6: Enchanter -> Imam
tier 7: Spynx -> Flying Pyramid

This is a cool new idea right guys?

[Anonymous No.6550917]

>>6550910
>No u
Pathetic. I'm not the one who posted that shit ITT. That was you, and you have yet to explain why.

[Anonymous No.6550919]

>>6550917
>>6550035
>one post of HotA concept art
Vs.
>>6550854
>>6550870
>>6550881
>>6550887
>>6550890
>>6550894
>>6550896
>>6550901
>>6550906
>furry fixation
Hmmmmm

[Anonymous No.6550923]

>>6550919

[Anonymous No.6550927]

>>6550923
>fucking spiders
Wow anon you really can't leave the anthro stuff alone for a single post can you?

[Anonymous No.6550938]

Jfc ban hota from threads already

[Anonymous No.6550943]

>>6550938
But that's what furryposter wants all along.
I was not even aware there is a furfag on hota team before and actually I don't fucking care as long as there's no furries in my game.

[Anonymous No.6550961]

Imagine ruining threads just because you don't like a certain mod.

[Anonymous No.6550968]

>>6550883
>>6550889
Okay, you convinced me. HotA belongs in /HoMM/. Mind if I screencap your post for future reference?

[Anonymous No.6550973]

>>6550927
It's another episode of "Anti HotA faggot miss the point on purpose, thinking he will be le amusing troll".
It's boring. It's overdone. We have this shit 5-6 times per thread, for about two years. Nobody is impressed anymore.

[Anonymous No.6550975]

Heroes of Might and Magic III: Schizophrenia Blade

[Anonymous No.6550978]

>>6550913
>no Bees

[Anonymous No.6550981]

>>6550913
not enough furries 2/10

[Anonymous No.6550984]

>>6550975
Heroes of Might and Magic III: Fursuit of the Abyss

[Anonymous No.6550996]

Can't wait for hota to change Eagle Eye so new schizo can emerge claiming EE is game changing skill that is ruined

[Anonymous No.6551007]

>>6550996
I bet you can't wait for more of Donko's furry porn either

[Anonymous No.6551008]

>>6550961
Based and Gempilled

[Anonymous No.6551009]

>>6543905
>two tier sevens
>not even mutually exclusive
they better be mediocre at best or this town is going to be broken as shit

[Anonymous No.6551010]

>furrypost is gone

Mods=Gods

[Anonymous No.6551015]

>>6551009
It's ok you can use Diplomacy to buy half the units at twice the price on the map
>sometimes

[Anonymous No.6551017]

>>6551010
Thank you mods for helping this anon with his awkward boner

[Anonymous No.6551018]

>>6550035
Hahahaha get fucked

[Anonymous No.6551019]

>>6551009
What if both T7 will require same rare resource, mercury for example? With both dwellings costing equally 20 000 gold and 20 mercury? Unless you are really rich with money and mercury, you are forced to make a choice

[Anonymous No.6551027]

Really knowing that the HotA dev team and fan club are deranged furries makes their behavior here make a lot more sense

[Anonymous No.6551029]

>>6551019
>Unless you are really rich with money and mercury
Or really late into a match. I imagine this town will be similar to the Tower in the sense that it's dogshit in the beginning (save for a few exploits or really leaning into Master Gremlins) and soars to greatness later on.

[Anonymous No.6551032]

>>6551019
Good thing the templates spew out dozens of "Warehouse of Mercury"

[Anonymous No.6551035]

>>6551010
Based.

[Anonymous No.6551039]

>>6551007
It is not furryshit anon, it is painstakingly handcrafted HotA concept art, which obviously belongs in the HoMM thread. I refer any of your further questions to Donko

[Anonymous No.6551042]

>>6551039
Is the next town really an anthropomorphic WW2 Soviet army? Don't people go to jail for this shit in Russia? Shouldn't they?

[Anonymous No.6551048]

>>6551042
>slav town

[Anonymous No.6551087]

>>6551048
native terrain: dirt

[Anonymous No.6551128]

>>6550996
Some skills can be fixed with a bit of a more "creative" approach to the whole thing I guess; this is what I had in mind for example for "Eagle Eye" - instead of just copying the spell that your opponent casts it would actually *snatch* the spell from their spellbook - like an eagle would snatch it's prey - making the enemy hero no longer have access to it for the remainder of the battle and beyond, until they re-learn it from a Shrine or a Mage's Guild. This way, not only you would potentially get a spell you wouldn't normally have access to, but the skill would also work as a sort of a "magic deterrent", making your opponent weigh his options very carefully, knowing that the spells he casts would effectively be "one-shot-wonders". This effect cold be circumvented with scrolls (maybe?), but that in and on itself is sort of a penalty, you having to dedicate a whole artifact slot for a single spell and losing some other benefits you could've had in it's place. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.6551176]

>>6550973
Fuck off, invent your own posts

[Anonymous No.6551189]

>>6550996
>N-no, Eagle Eye is same tier as Resistance
Apples and oranges, anon

[Anonymous No.6551203]

>Resistance is a useless non-meta skill that no one uses
>so we have to remove it
>and all resistance artifacts
>and Thorgrim
>also we're nerfing Diplomacy
>and Logistics
>and adding a retarded skill to replace Resistance
>we're leaving Eagle Eye and Learning as is because it would be too difficult to balance
>btw none of our new meme town heroes have Eagle Eye nor Learning
>Inferno is fixed because you can aim gog fireball now
>cyclops good because creature bank
Finally my Jebus Cross is perfect

[Anonymous No.6551268]

I just got an idea for a map, but I'm terrible at actually making maps so I'll just drop it here since I feel like sharing it in some way.
It's divided into four equal quarters that are separated from each other by mountains. The first quarter is grass with a rampart player in it. 2nd is swamp with fortress, 3rd snow with tower, 4th rough with stronghold. Each quarter has the basic starting stuff in it: mines, piles of resources, some chests, low level artifacts, neutrals to beat, some dwellings, windmill, water wheel, what have you.
At the center of the map, as far away of the towns as possible, there's an underground entrance. That takes each player to "their own"
small underground place that has a gold mine, some stronger neutral stacks, and a better artifact or two in it. All in their native terrain.
Each of these underground "antechambers" is then connected to the same central room that's the underground terrain type and hosts a neutral dungeon town.
I got as far as creating the terrain, placing the towns, and starting to place mines when I realized I don't have what it takes to make a map like that. Maybe I'll try again some day.

[Anonymous No.6551321]

>>6551203
Lets unpack this little pile of shitty comments, shall we?
>Resistance is a useless non-meta skill that no one uses
not useless, just a dice roll; relying purely on rng and not on your skill is frustrating most of the time (although fun when successful)
>so we have to remove it
except they didn't and you can have either (old or new skill) or both activated in template rules
>and all resistance artifacts
same as above
>and Thorgrim
same as above
>also we're nerfing Diplomacy
because it is game breaking
>and Logistics
because it is even more game breaking
>and adding a retarded skill to replace Resistance
Interference is a flat (magic resistance) bonus instead of a dice roll (spell counter). I assume that by your logic any skill that does that is retarded? Offense, Armorer, Necromancy, Logistics, Navigation, Intelligence...oh wait, so that is like half of them? Seems they've just brought it into the line with others.
>we're leaving Eagle Eye and Learning as is because it would be too difficult to balance
no, they are just experimenting on the best way to do it. It's a free mod, so you are free to wait.
>btw none of our new meme town heroes have Eagle Eye nor Learning
this is a fair point but if they are already useless as they are now, how would it be an improvement if you add more dead weight to new heroes? This might change once the skills are updated too.
>Inferno is fixed because you can aim gog fireball now
far from fixed but it is definitely a step in the right direction. All the quality of life updates HotA brought are immensely helpful and improve overall game experience.
>cyclops good because creature bank
cyclopes are one of the rare creatures that are better (more cost effective) in their regular version when compared to the upgrade. Having a flagged dwelling on the map is just an added bonus.
>Finally my Jebus Cross is perfect
Stop playing one single template you fool.
All childish grievances accountes for, feel free to proceed and seethe more.

[Anonymous No.6551363]

>>6551268
sounds cool anon, I don't see why you couldn't do it; making maps takes time and though, so it is okay if you need a while for the idea to "mature" and become an actual map. Reminds me a bit of Dragon Pass scenario but with underground. Post pics of map pls

[Anonymous No.6551364]

>>6551321
bless this based anon

[Anonymous No.6551384]

>>6551321
>quality of life updates HotA brought
Zero

[Anonymous No.6551403]

>>6551268
sounds pretty simple
you could do it

[Anonymous No.6551469]

>>6551384
Zero? Oh really? Let me just name the few I remember from the top of my head:
>Clicking on the Town while setting map parameters opens a window from which you can select both your town and hero without needlessly cycling through them all click by click
>On the same screen, in-depth information about starting hero available with a right-click
>Ability to refuse skill offered in the Witch's Hut
>Ability to track Seer's Hut on the world map by clicking on the relevant quest in your Quest Log
>Removing the end turn reminder for heroes that still have movement left
>Three spells per row in Spellbook for greater transparency
>Being able to use CTRL to split one unit from a stack multiple times, ALT to fold all units of one type into a single stack and SHIFT to split them into stacks that have half the number of the total units
>Being able to use the above functions not just on your Hero Screen or your Town Screen but on the info window in the lower left while on adventure map
>Selecting one unit type and transferring between heroes instantly leaves the original hero with a single unit without you having to separate them manually
>Additional hotkeys for everything from instantly accessing your marketplace while on world map to dismissing units
>Buy all units by clicking on the castle icon in your Town screen or individual units by clicking on their respective icons instead of dwellings
>In town you can see the available amount of creatures left for recruitment instead of their pop growth
>Additional info displayed in the center bottom of the screen for every single adventure map object
>Combat starts instantly without you having to wait for the battle prelude music to finish
>Target any hex instead of a creature for Death Cloud and Fireball abilities; option to switch between melee and range attacks of units
...and so on. If you don't see how these improvements make the game more comfortable overall, you are either willfully blind or deliberately dishonest.

[Anonymous No.6551478]

>>6551384
Conflux nerf

[Anonymous No.6551483]

>>6551469
They were all so vital that I didn't miss them at all when I uninstalled HotA
>WoG already did the witch hut ;)

[Anonymous No.6551490]

>>6551469
These are HDmod features you fucking retard. HotA added zero QOL additions.

[Anonymous No.6551497]

>>6551469
>still can't code a ui to disable abysmal gameplay changes, just dig around in the template editor and hex edit necromancy to what you want it to be lmao

[Anonymous No.6551507]

>>6551490
Lmfao

[Anonymous No.6551536]

>>6551483
suit yourself pleb

>>6551483
https://sites.google.com/site/heroes3hd/eng/changelog
why do you lie? Although to be fully honest, most if not all of these were originally developed as part of WoG/Era modifications - I think that end turn reminder and buy all creatures are specifically from there - but further implemented in HotA while still sorely missing from a score of other mods, whereas they should've been standard addition by now.

>>6551497
all heroes 3 modders manage as they can; untl source code is released (if ever), this too will be a thing of the past, hopefully

>>6551478
yeah, that reminded me
>lower Phoenix growth + the hordes building
>transfer all troops/artifacts
There are some things that other mods do better that I would also want to see in HotA too - like the option from Heroes 3: Succession Wars to place any artifact in the accessory slot and get different/diminished bonuses, exchange spellbooks etc.

[Anonymous No.6551553]

>>6551536
>Succession Wars
How is that mod doing?

[Anonymous No.6551556]

>dude I just watched Pirates of the Caribbean lmao
>dude I just watched Cowboys vs Aliens and played Bioshock lmao
>dude I just updated my furaffinity lmao

[Anonymous No.6551565]

>>6551556
Anon pirates are literally a staple faction/country in the M&M games.

[Anonymous No.6551567]

>>6551556
I always thought a water faction would be cool, though I'm not in love with their implementation. I want my egypt/arab desert town. Factory is gay.

[Anonymous No.6551570]

>>6551553
still in v.0.8 but fully playable and I'm loving it; there is something truly special about those H2 graphic style, music and atmosphere and sets it apart from Heroes 3. Dervish and Witch towns are also awesome. Comfy times.

[Anonymous No.6551571]

>>6551565
Couatls with legs aren't

[Anonymous No.6551585]

>>6551570
also, another thing that I really like is that all of the creatures seem to be quite a bit more "beefy" and ranged units are practically turned into damage support - rarely do you get the chance to simply one shot your opponent (neutral or AI/player) before his army can close the gap on the battlefield and close into melee. Availability of certain "game-breaking" spells, like Slow or Haste is noticeably lower and they are quite harder to obtain and that also helps greatly imo. Leadership and Luck thus play a far greater role and are pretty much a must have and a certain pick if you want to have your army decimate the opponent and not suffer any substantial loses. Moving in a really good direction and I can't wait for it to hit 1.0; the biggest hurdle is the graphics, since it is really hard to replicate that H2 style and for new artwork to fit in without standing out.

[Anonymous No.6551783]

>>6551570
is there a trick to installing it? I keep getting error messages saying that it's missing something and to install it again

[Anonymous No.6551784]

>>6551128
This is a great idea. I assume it would work for both heroes if they had eagle eye, where the hero who lost the spell snatches it back if the other hero uses the same spell. Another part I thought would help is (traditional) eagle eye working on the adventure map. Where if you see somebody use tp, dp, boat spells, etc... then you learn the spell.

[Anonymous No.6551794]

>>6551783
I installed it on a clean GOG version of Heroes 3 and it worked fine; I suggest you do the same and download the installer again and follow the instructions here, it should work:
http://heroes3wog.net/succession-wars-download/

>>6551784
good addition imo, the adventure map bit and yeah, the idea is that snatching would work both ways.

[Anonymous No.6551797]

>>6551784
>Where if you see somebody use tp, dp, boat spells, etc... then you learn the spell.
This alone makes it useful

[Anonymous No.6551812]

>>6551128
here are a few others as well that I had thought about a bit:
>Learning
Make the exp bonus actually meaningful into something like 50/75/100 or even 100/150/200; at basic it would give you the option to choose between three skills instead of the standard two, advanced would give four choices and expert would give five
>First Aid
In essence, it would work as a form of "delayed necromancy"; it would recover a number of living units after the battle BUT they would be available in your Garrison (free or for recruitment?) after a number of days equal to their level (or something like that), thus in that way representing the actual time that the battlefield medics took to do the triage and give the units time to heal. Depending on your skill level would depend how many units would you be able to save this way. Healing would be entirely related to the First Aid tent, giving it more significance and it could also be useful if depending on the skill level B/A/E it would heal status effects like poison, paralyze, petrify, disease etc. in a way being a spell-free Dispel for certain status effects.
>Ballistics and Artillery
Remove the limit for heroes of ONE single piece of siege equipment; if you want multiple balistas or catapults - go for it. Catapult should also get an aimed shot at units too, not just fortifications - with a splash damage hit field, not much unlike death cloud, while keeping the chance to overshoot the target and hit somewhere near instead - push effect would also be interesting. Adding on above skill, taking multiple First Aid tents would greatly improve the skill and the number of units saved. Also, more War Machines would be neat.
>Scholar
On top of exchanging spells it gives you the option to sequence spells, similarly to how Armor of the Damned or Angelic Alliance cast spells before combat. On Basic you can sequence one, Advanced two and Expert three spells total; but the spells ain't free and you still have to fully pay the SP cost.

[Anonymous No.6551827]

>>6551812
(cont.)
>Sorcery
At Expert gives the option to cast TWO spells per round.
>Pathfinding
I know this would be a bit bonkers, but it was already done in WoG IIRC; skill would give you the ability to go over impassable terrain as well, like forests, mountains and other map objects. Or give that ability to all, just now the skill would allow you to traverse such terrain faster then without it. Being concealed in forests or some other terrain would give another layer to gameplay as well.
>Scouting
Ability to see through above concealment as well, making the skill actually useful. Both concealment and seeing through existed in games like Age of Wonders and would be a good addition to heroes as well imo.

New skill ideas:
>Nobility
"stolen" from Heroes 4, this skill would give a bonus to pop growth if the hero is present in the town on the 7th day of the week; basic for levels 1-2, advanced for 3-4 and expert for 5-6
>Warlock's Luck
this is a skill from Heroes 5, but it could work as a fully fledged skill effectively giving you Luck bonus (double damage) for spells. Yeah.
I'm generally more inclined towards having more fun in the game than keeping the skills 100% balanced; OP is fun and can be balanced out afterwards.

[Anonymous No.6552296]

>>6528035
Ok I'm gonna play mm1 and mm2 and want to play them on my phone
Are the nes and megadrive good ports?
I'm also looking at the mm2 japanese port for the snes, is it any good?

[Anonymous No.6552345]

>mm6
>Paladin, archer, druid, mage
>And there's not a damn thing you can tell me to do to restart with a different party

[Anonymous No.6552379]

>>6552345
That's not sssc anon

[Anonymous No.6553015]

>>6552296
You should be able to run them in ScumMVM. The MM1 NES port looks a bit better but doesn't let you create your own characters so you are stuck with the default team, names, and stats. The console ports are inferior to both the Apple and DOS versions for both games but playable.

>>6552345
That team is fine, it covers the requirements. It may feel a bit weak on the later part of the game, but there are far worse options.

[Anonymous No.6553287]

>>6553015
I have only played mm6 and the nes port doesn't look half bad
Right now I've been playing pc ports to console just to compare how they look but I wasn't sure which whicch one to pkay first since I'll be playing both version

[Anonymous No.6553306]

how do I git gud at might and magic?

[Anonymous No.6553371]

>>6550943
>I don't fucking care as long as there's no furries in my game.
Kinda too late, they already in it.

[Anonymous No.6553626]

What happened to the Equilibris mod for HOMM4?

[Anonymous No.6553705]

>>6551363
Unfortunately I got hit by a severe case of creator's doubt and just quit the map editor without saving.
I'll see about making a crude mockup later today if I can find the time.

[Anonymous No.6553863]

>>6553306
use Tazar

[Anonymous No.6553946]

>>6553863
might and magic not heroes of might and magic

[Anonymous No.6554176]

>>6553705
don't lose hope so easily anon, mapmaking is fun; there was this guy in HoMM threads, not sure if he is still around, that was making collages of maps specifically made for their aesthetic value and nothing else - beautiful for the eye, regardless of how "balanced" they might be for actual play. But homm map editor is great for both, so post your shit and we'll help you finish it.

[Anonymous No.6554201]

>>6554176
isn't this one of his?
>>6535341

[Anonymous No.6554392]

Which one is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.6554396]

Kiting monsters in MM6 is OP

[Anonymous No.6554405]

>>6554396
Especially with the mouse look mod. I wouldn't have get through certain places like that forge without it.

[Anonymous No.6554431]

>>6554392
(*:

[Anonymous No.6554432]

>>6554431
but jokes aside, probably Stronghold, it is criminally underrated

[Anonymous No.6554440]

>>6554432
puzzle map for Neropolis in H5 was also cool

[Anonymous No.6554467]

>>6554432
I like rampart the best, but stronghold and castle are probably the next best.

>>6554431
Cove's is surprisingly good, considering their town map and music aren't. Conflux is bad in all regards.

[Anonymous No.6554785]

what's the verdict on Songs of Conquest? I desperately want it to be good, I cannot take another TBS heartbreak

[Anonymous No.6554838]

>>6551478
>Smaller phoenix growth
>But not really
>Storm Elementals still OP as fuck
So what nerf we are talking about?

[Anonymous No.6554842]

Which M&M is best to start with and what are some basic tips to it?

[Anonymous No.6554851]

>>6554842
Depends what you are looking for. OP pastebin has most of what you need to know. 3 if you have some experience with DOS RPGs, 4 if you don't. 6 if you want to jump into the Windows games which are set in the same world as HoMM (buy bows).

[Anonymous No.6554861]

>>6554785
It looks cool, but I would bet my dick it's shallow and cheap.

[Anonymous No.6554869]

>>6554842
6-8 tie in with the stories of HoMM2 and 3 if you care
Master water magic early is vital in 6. Also bows

[Anonymous No.6554951]

>>6543992
4 is a bunch of early stage conceptual ideas hastily thrown together without much playtesting, not because NWC went full retard, but because 3DO didn't gave them the time and money they needed.

[Anonymous No.6554958]

>>6554842
MM7 is much easier to start with IMO
stuff to know for starters for MM7 is
>use standard party
>start the game with as much magic skills as possible, as you will also get a free spellbook
>start the game with as much weapon skills as you inted, as you will also get a free weapon
>grind the fuck out of the initial island for gold and skills
>try to kite the dragon on Emerald Island if possible
>don't be afraid to restart the initial island if you feel your party is fucked up or you invested in bad shit

[Anonymous No.6554962]

>>6544131
Fun fact: David Mullich was also the producer of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

[Anonymous No.6554970]

>>6544150
Yeah but come now, did anyone ever not do every dungeon for extra loot and XP?

[Anonymous No.6555013]

Which one is the most useless HOMM3 hero?

[Anonymous No.6555020]

>>6554958
>>try to kite the dragon on Emerald Island if possible
You do this by accepting Malwick's offer (also gives another quest later) for the fireball wand/kiting the dragonflies into town to kill him and then passing the wand amongst your party members in turn based combat until the last one is active, then go into real time to dodge the dragon attack and repeat until he's dead
>i guess you can do bows too
>if you want to be really lame you can save and reload before looting to get whatever artifact/relic you want

[Anonymous No.6555021]

>>6555013
One of the Alchemists or someone from Inferno

[Anonymous No.6555064]

>>6555013
I'm going to say Josephine. Alchemist, starts with mysticism and sorcery, golem specialist, starts with stone golems that'll just slow her down.

[Anonymous No.6555072]

>>6555064
But golems get +1 speed from her
>myst and sorc is two wasted slots tho lol

[Anonymous No.6555076]

>>6555013
Gelu

[Anonymous No.6555081]

New thread >>6555079

[Anonymous No.6555083]

>>6555076
Gelu is based even though I alwas thought it was a girl
Sharpshooters are OP as fuck

[Anonymous No.6555096]

>>6555083
Gelu ruined everything
You can try to blame Kilgore but he was just a retarded illiterate barbarian and not a magical mulatto

[Anonymous No.6555361]

>>6555013
Piquedram.

[Anonymous No.6555443]

So do enemies respawn in main MM6-8 games?

[Anonymous No.6556152]

>reached bump limit
Now this is what a HoMM/MM thread should be.

[Anonymous No.6556437]

>>6555013
>Story-wise
Gelu. He was entrusted with the Armageddon's Blade and fucking blew it.
>Gameplay-wise
Everyone who has Eagle Eye specialty obviously, which is a lot of heroes. Why devs chose to make it one of the most common specialties I will never understand.

[Anonymous No.6556442]

>>6555072
>Golems +1 speed
Not enough to make them viable for the main hero imho. I just keep them in the town in case there's a siege.

[Anonymous No.6557629]

>>6555013
Ingham maybe.
Eagle Eye is bad long term, but it isn't that useless.