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Personally I use a 3DS. It handles everything 16-bit or below perfectly and it can run quite a few N64 and PS1 games.

>> No.6517963
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SNES including SuperFX games work fine.

>> No.6517964
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6517964

Gambatte (You can set these to native res BTW.)

>> No.6517965

I use a PSP Go.

>> No.6517967
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It can run DS and GBA games natively without a flashcard (off the SD). The OP post is using gpSP.

>> No.6517968

>>6517963
>SuperFX games work fine
>Tons of frameskipping, graphical glitches and input lag
Bubble2k’s Snes9x port is garbage and should only be used by O3DS users.

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Then of course it runs 3DS games too.
>>6517965
I have one of those. It's not bad but other than PS1 the emulation is better on 3DS.

>> No.6517970

Fucking disgusting, at least use the integer scale mode jesus christ

>> No.6517972

>>6517969
>the emulation is better on n3DS or n2ds
Fixed it for you.

>> No.6517973

I'm thinking of buying a GPD win max

>> No.6517975

>>6517970
>I like a tiny image
Okay.

>> No.6517976

>>6517968
Works fine. Yoshi's Island runs at 60 fps on n3DS. Stunt Race FX runs full speed with one frameskip.
>>6517970
Maybe if I want to play a postage stamp size game.
>>6517972
Are those not 3DS'? Also that's what I took a picture of.

>> No.6517985

>>6517976
You have n2ds, the last released revision of 3ds. 3ds, 2ds and 3ds xl has shit cpus, they can't emulate stuff psp emulated years ago like neogeo pocket color, cps1 or neogeo. "new" models have beefier cpus, they can do emulation much better.

>> No.6517990

>>6517960
The Switch just as soon as I hack it.

>> No.6517994

>>6517976
>Yoshi’s Island runs full speed
Lol no. It drops frames all the time, and the intro screen is fucked.

>> No.6517995

>>6517960
installed daedalus on my n2ds but it's kinda of shit atm, crashes on pokemon stadium and Glover while a lot of games lag. though its pretty new so I have high hopes it'll be as good as the PSP version

>> No.6517996

>>6517995
The PSP version can barely run Mario 64 decently.

>> No.6517998

>>6517996
I dont have a PSP or vita so I dont know firsthand but I thought it ran games at "close to or even full speed on most games"

>> No.6518001

>>6517960
There's nothing quite like a modded switch at the moment

>> No.6518002

>>6517985
Yes I know all that. The n3DS is still a 3DS.
>>6517990
Actually same. I'm waiting for a softmod.
>>6517994
I've beat the entire game on my n2DS. No it doesn't. Disable auto SRAM saving and set the render mode to the second option.

>> No.6518003

>>6517998
PSP? Lol no.

>> No.6518004

>>6518002
>The n3DS is still a 3DS.
Not really

>> No.6518005

>>6518002
But a 3DS isn't a "new" model, so you can't say emulation on 3DS is better. You might mislead people that are reading the thread.

>> No.6518012

>>6518004
The thing called "New 3DS" isn't a 3DS. OK.
>>6518005
Maybe they should do an ounce of research considering they're going to install CFW.

>> No.6518014

>>6518012
>The thing called "New 3DS" isn't a 3DS
It is not when emulation is concerened. Two completely different CPUs.

>> No.6518015

>>6518012
Right, CFW will magically install more horse power to old ass 3DS models. Retard.

>> No.6518021

>>6518002
>Actually same. I'm waiting for a softmod.
Ditto on the softmod. I've been waiting for a sufficiently powerful enough handheld to be able to do gens 2-5 more or less perfectly, not asking much there, but all the other options always have some awful emulations catches.

>> No.6518027

>>6518002
I have too. Yes, it does. I disabled auto SRAM saving you dumb faggot. The render mode doesn’t change how choppily the game runs. Compare it to a VC inject of the GBA version and tell me the difference isn’t night and day.

>> No.6518043

>>6518014
It's still a 3DS. You can be a pedantic retard all day if you want.
>>6518015
No shit that's not what I said. If they're going to be installing CFW surely they could take five seconds to look up the difference between the old and new models. It's not my job to hold your hand retard.
>>6518021
The 3DS can do that. (Even the old models.)
Use Gambatte for GB(C), gpSP or AGB_FIRM for GBA, and nds-bootstrap for DS.
>>6518027
>The render mode doesn’t change how choppily the game runs.
Did you have your 3DS set to old clocks? You seem stupid enough to make that mistake.
>The render mode doesn’t change how choppily the game runs.
No shit. It fixes the graphical glitches you yourself mentioned.

>> No.6518051

>>6518043
Snes9x doesn’t default to the O3DS clockspeed, retard.
>fixes the graphical glitches
If by “fix” you mean completely removes the effects that were bugging out, then sure, it fixes them. The title screen, no matter what rendering mode you use, will never display correctly.

>> No.6518053

>>6518043
>The 3DS can do that. (Even the old models.)
>Use Gambatte for GB(C), gpSP or AGB_FIRM for GBA, and nds-bootstrap for DS.
Good to know and appreciated, but I don't have a 3DS, never have. Just haven't had the money for every little thing. Maybe I can find a good one for a decent price?

>> No.6518054

>>6518043
>3DS
>Can run 5th gen perfectly
Go away poorfag. 5th gen is shit on all 3DS models.

>> No.6518057

>>6518053
Don’t listen to him. He’s a certifiable idiot.
5th gen is a dumpster fire even on N3DS.

>> No.6518059

>>6518054
>Go away poorfag. 5th gen is shit on all 3DS models.
I'm the other anon he's talking to. Exactly what is the issue? If it's technical and doesn't effect the game I assure you I don't care.

>> No.6518064

>>6518059
N64 barely even works, the emulator is more a proof of concept. And most PS1 games don’t run full speed.

>> No.6518065

>>6518057
>5th gen is a dumpster fire even on N3DS.
Like Wii trying to emulate most N64 games bad?
Help me Hacked Switchobi, you're my only hope.
Really, the Switch is a powerful console, when docked anyway.

>> No.6518067

>>6518059
more than half the games crash the emulator

>> No.6518068

>>6518064
Fug

>> No.6518076

>>6518065
Exactly as bad. The 3DS is good for everything up to 4th gen and its native GBA support. Sadly if you want good 5th gen emulation you’re going to need a hacked Switch or GPD Win 2.
The Vita can do PS1 considerably better but it’s not perfect, and the N64 support is just as bad.

>> No.6518080

>>6517998
PSP cant even play super mario world dude

>> No.6518082

>>6518076
Thank goodness someone hacked those severs then because from what I hear N64 emulation is taking giant steps forward out of a total coincidence. ;)
I thought there was some softmod for the Switch, but I guess not.

>> No.6518086

>>6518080
Didn't realize that was released for the n64

>> No.6518087

>>6518080
Hello, 2007.

>> No.6518090

>>6518086
If it can't even run a super nintendo game what chance does it have at 64 you stupid fuck

>> No.6518091

>>6518076
>>6518080
Those are both great to know. Someone on youtube who usually knows what they're talking about always kind of seemed like he didn't care if some of his emulations were fucked up a bit. I care, though. Thank you. Saved me some money because looking at both.

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>>6517994
59.9fps

>> No.6518094

>>6518087
I wish it was 2007.

>> No.6518095

>>6518093
Show intro

>> No.6518097

>>6518090
if I shat out an emulator on my computer that couldn't run any super nintendo games does that mean it has no chance of n64 emulation?

>> No.6518098
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>>6518094
Not me, 2005 was way comfier.
For some reason I loved Castlevania III then and was insanely good at it. Skill lost, though.

>> No.6518102

>>6518091
Yeah, some people just have low standards. It’s why you still see the PSP being recommend these days.

>> No.6518103

>>6518097
PSP emulation hasn't improved since it came out because it was surpassed by better devices

>> No.6518104
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>>6518051
Looks fixed to me.

>> No.6518106

>>6518097
Oh my what an embarrassing post.

>> No.6518108

>>6518102
>ghetto gaming
Not even once.

>> No.6518109

>>6518093
>One scene, no movement, no enemies
Even walking shows the scrolling isn’t perfectly smooth. Bubble2k’s Snes9x port uses a lot of shortcuts to hit that “60fps” mark.

>> No.6518114

>>6518067
>>6518064
NDS-BOOTSTRAP isn't an emulator retards. It's running in TWL_FIRM (DSi Mode) and it runs just like a flashcard.

>> No.6518116

>>6518114
No one is talking about DS, mouthbreather.

>> No.6518117

>>6517960
Stop using the stretched resolution mode you dumb fuck
>>6517963
Yeah a version SNES9x from 2002 with awful framepacing is great.
>>6517976
Yoshi is all kinds of broken, have you ever played it on a real SNES or even a decent emulator?

Fucking hell i hate people like this, don’t make claims about “great emulation” or any other topic for that matter when you don’t have the first idea what the fuck you’re talking about, the *only* handheld console you’ll get decent SNES emulation on is Switch

>> No.6518119

>>6518116
Gen 5 is DS. Holy shit you guys are retarded.
>>6518109
Ignored the other one that proves you wrong too. Fag. >>6518104

>> No.6518125

>>6518117
>Yeah a version SNES9x from 2002 with awful framepacing is great.
That pic is using Snes9x 2005 Plus.

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6518128

>>6518119
>Gen 5 is DS

>> No.6518130

>>6518125
The only emulator that can run SuperFX games CLOSE to full speed on 3DS is bubble’s emulator, which is based on 2002 with an upgraded sound core.

>> No.6518134

>>6518128
See
>>6518076

>> No.6518136

>>6518119
Oh, you’re using RetroArch. The explains a few things. Now show a video of the title screen and first level running full speed. I don’t feel like digging my N3DS out and updating to the latest version of RA.

>> No.6518138

>>6518134
Why did you link my post faggot? Nothing I said supports your claim that DS is gen 5.

>> No.6518141

>>6518136
No that main menu screenshot and first level is from Bubble's Snes9x. The image that's running Super Mario RPG is Snes9x 2005 Plus.

>> No.6518142

>>6518136
I’ve run 1.8.8, it’s still just as broken. No one is really still working on 3DS emulation at this point, especially when the Switch is so much more capable. That PCSXR Unai renderer was neat though, some basic sprite based RPGs are playable

>> No.6518146

>>6518138
Miss click because there's too many mouth breathers in the thread.

>> No.6518147

>>6518141
2005 Plus lags like crazy with SMRPG, why are you outright lying about this shit

>> No.6518150

>>6518102
it's marcus the nig from the commercials, still trying to sell PSPs after all these years

>> No.6518152

>>6518142
They fixed the gpSP core (it used to crash on 3DS) and you can fix the screen tearing by setting the frame delay to 1. They're adding CitraGL (OpenGL) support now.
>>6518147
Because that is what that picture is.

>> No.6518153

>>6518141
Lol bullshit. You used one of the RA Snes9x cores for the title screen. Bubble’s Snes9x port hasn’t been updated in two years and the title screen is broken in all three rendering modes. Post a video or fuck off.

>> No.6518154
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>>6518080
It runs this pretty fine believe it or not. F-zero is constantly between 30 to 45 fps in game. Both launch titles. Heavy mode 7 fucks the emulator up is the conclusion.

>> No.6518156

Does anyone know how to get rid of sound stutter in Retroarch's PSX cores (on mobile)? My phone runs N64 and PS1 games just fine, it's just that PS1 games have some weird sound stutter all the time. Disabling vsync fixes that but makes the game run at like 15 fps which is just unplayable honestly.

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>>6518153
Fucking kill yourself already.

>> No.6518159

>>6518157
That’s not a video fag. You can take stills of the title screen in between the glitching of the rainbow effect on the Yoshi’s Island font. Show it in motion or fuck off.

>> No.6518164

>>6518157
Why are you lying about these emulators you strange cunt

>> No.6518168

>>6517968
I’ve had no issues with it and have beaten Yoshis Island and StarFox with it multiple times.

>> No.6518170

I wonder if the developers ever thought grown men would autistically and angrily argue about their games for children

>> No.6518171

>>6518168
>My standards are moderately low
Read you loud and clear, bud.

>> No.6518172

>>6518168
It may well be acceptable to plenty of people, but it’s unquestionably full of visual bugs and broken framepacing (“60fps” is a half truth here)

>> No.6518180

>>6518172
>>6518171
Ok if you think so. I’m sorry you’re so angry other handhelds have better emulators than the PSP.

>> No.6518183

>>6518180
I’ve never owned a PSP, I’m white. If you don’t mind shit emulation more power to you, but keep your shit standards to yourself please.

>> No.6518186

>>6518180
I don’t emulate on PSP. Nice strawman, though.

>> No.6518196

>>6518183
>>6518186
I don’t know if shitposting on an armenian evangelion anonymous message board helps with your autism or not anon but I hope it’s working for you

>> No.6518198

>>6518196
I’ve never watched Evangelion and the Armenians deserved what they got

>> No.6518202

>>6518198
>Armenians deserved what they got
Based.

>> No.6518203

>>6518196
I could have sworn we were here to discuss basket weaving and not babby’s first 2deep4u anime.

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>> No.6518239

not retro but what DS games should i get? i just got a 3DS and have never played any DS games

>> No.6518267

>>6518239
I almost purchased a New 2DS XL but realized it had no games I want.

>> No.6518284

>>6518239
those 3 castlevanias and atlus made some good games for the system.

>> No.6518334

>>6517960
hacked vita and and a natty 2ds

>> No.6518347
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6518347

3D element on screen. Still 60FPS.

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6518359

>>6518347
>mode7
>3d

>> No.6518369
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BTW. Runs great in RetroArch too.

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60FPS in RetroArch with a 3D object on screen.

>> No.6518391

>>6518387
What core?

>> No.6518409

>>6518359
Mode 7 is the mode where the background is drawn flat and rotated around. That is rendered by the SuperFX chip. It's 3D polygons.
>>6518391
Yoshi's Island is running in the SNES9x 2002 core.

>> No.6518437

The resolution on the 3ds is just a little too small to display anything at 2x size, and at 1x everything looks tiny. PSP has the same problem, so I'm thinking of getting a Vita just for this reason.

>> No.6518458

>>6518437
Yeah that's fair. 240p content looks fine with integer scaling but GB/GBC is either blurry or postage stamp size.

>> No.6518649

>>6518437
You realize it’s literally a 240p screen? It’s the perfect vertical resolution for retro games, zero scaling needed. That being said it’s a bit too weak in the hardware department to really shine.

The Switch at 720p allows for a nice 3x scale, my preference is to make every third line a scanline, at that pixel density it reminds me a lot of how the 3DS screen looks but just bigger, and with a hell of a lot more powerful specs. Switch might be weak compared to home console but it shits all over the 3DS.

>> No.6518674

>>6517960
>Perfectly
lol, just like the psp. Total shit.

>> No.6518675

>>6518012
>The thing called "New 3DS" isn't a 3DS. OK.
wut

>> No.6518676

>>6518164
Because like psp, chink handhelds, Switch and similar, they need to feel like their poor choices and wasted time are not poor choices and wasted time.
When a $50 android phone totally blows all of the above devices away with no effort, you would feel pretty retarded using a 3ds.

>> No.6518680

>>6518676
>When a $50 android phone totally blows all of the above devices away

5/10 got me to respond.

>> No.6518716

>>6518680
He's right you know.

>> No.6518729

I use my phone and a telescopic controller that clips to the sides. I don't see the point in buying a dedicated handheld when nearly everyone has a phone that does way better.

>> No.6518730
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>>6517960
They just recently started shooting out tons of android devices so I'm going to use that rather than some faggy hard to set up pi soc situation. I'm neet so not yet, but I'm going to get a retroid probably. 4:3 screen and an android computer *licks lips* with no satellite watching me. I like it. The buttons are retarded bu tit has bluetooth anyway. Pi's once made are too expensive for how hard they are to set up. So android it is, sadly. But, the retroid has no touchscreen and is 4:3 so it won't FEEL like one, and no sat. watching me. I am happy with that. Well, I don't have it yet but I think it will work fine for my needs.

>> No.6518745

>>6518676
>a Switch is less powerful than an Android
Lay off the dope for at least a day.

>> No.6518750

>>6518730
Aren't the retroid handhelds really weak?

>> No.6518754

I wrote about my Vita experiences in another thread, you can see that here: >>6517316

Before the situation was bad enough that I was seriously considering buying one of the newer Chinese handhelds. Now I'm happy with only having a Vita. I don't really want to emulate anything beyond PSX on a handheld. If I can it's a nice bonus. The library of Vita/PSP games is good. The PSX emulation is great. GBA works. 16 bit and below is all fine. The OLED screen is fucking fantastic and probably blows all of that other crap out of the water.

>> No.6518758

>>6518750
Screen size: 3.5 inch 640*480 IPS
Apps CPU: 4x Cortex-A7
Max CPU Frenquency: 1.3GHz
CPU bit: 32-bit
GPU Type: Arm Mali GPU
Max Memory Frenquency: 533MHz
Storage Type: eMMC
Memory: 512MB LPDDR2/3 1066MHz
Graphics: ARM Mali400-MP2 500MHz
Display: 640x480 60fps
Connectivity: Wi-Fi bgn/Bluetooth 4.0
Touch screen support: No
Max GPU Frenquency: 500MHz
Battery: 4000m which could play 4 hours.

How much does an emulator really need though?

>>6518745
Androids are designed to let you use them as a linux computer pretty much. They're thus versatile. Power might not mean what you think it means.

>> No.6518764

For my non portable emulation I like using those Amlogic based Android TV boxes. Instead of running Android on them I run EmuELEC to play games. I ordered a new TV for my bedroom and I already have a s912 based box ready to go for that purpose. I'm planning to make a script that will sync game saves to and from my vita using FTP that I can run on the TV box.

>> No.6518797

>>6518764
But why? Doesn't android already have fine emulators?

The syncing sounds practical though. I hate having to copy and past things over and over while chaining extensions and all.

>> No.6518801

>>6518797
Android has added overhead. Most emulators would run fine despite that but I'd rather not have a bunch of stupid shit running while I'm playing games, phoning home to google and doing god knows what. Besides that the most practical reason is support for USB Bluetooth dongles. I tend to buy the cheapest boxes, setting my budget around $30. These lack built in Bluetooth but a Chinese made "CSR 4.0" dongle can be had for $1-2. Using EmuELEC you get proper support for the dongle, PS3 Dualshock 3 controllers, etc... When I emulated on Android in the past I needed to have an actual proper controller without Sony's proprietary nonsense and Bluetooth built into the device I was using which at the time was a Nexus Player.

>> No.6518881

>>6518758
>How much does an emulator really need though?
Probably a lot more than the specs on that if you want accuracy.

>> No.6518982

>>6518758
>Power might not mean what you think it means.
Oh I know, but compatibility is important and also everyone who teaches Linux is a fucking asshole who can't teach for shit and has zero patience, plus all online tutorials suck. And it's compromised anyway, all of it. I'm better served stacking the CPU power and maxing out my RAM.

tl;dr I don't give a shit.

>> No.6519000

>>6518982
When it comes to using Linux for emulators you don't really need to be taught though. That stuff is all designed for tech illiterate retards to be able to set it up with minimum effort. Watching a youtube video is about as far as you would need to go to learn it.

>> No.6519030

Why not just use the native 3DS GBA/SNES emulators nintendo made via injections?
>snes9x2002 core
Yeah what OP doesn't mention is the poor sound emulation that comes from the 2002 core lol.

Also I'm starting to think chinkshit is superior these days, my RG350m runs SNES better than both my Vita and 3DS. Vita has such a beautiful screen but certain things play like shit, having to sacrifice good sound or needing lots of frameskip for superfx games. Personally I hate the ergonomics of clamshell handhelds so I prefer the 350 over the 3DS for SNES anyday. Also phones are dogshit to play on, miss me with that input delay shitty tacked on controller clip crap.

>> No.6519039

>>6519030
The official SNES VC doesn’t support special chip games. Yoshi’s Island and the like are incompatible. Which is a shame, because the non-VC options for SNES emulation on 3DS are pretty subpar.

>> No.6519049

>>6519039
Ah I see.
I like my 3DS and hacked it, but I still prefer my Vita and chink devices more.

>> No.6519073

>>6519000
>When it comes to using Linux for emulators you don't really need to be taught though. That stuff is all designed for tech illiterate retards to be able to set it up with minimum effort. Watching a youtube video is about as far as you would need to go to learn it.
Appropriate digits for your lies.

>> No.6519092

>>6519073
As if learning to use win32diskimager and load roms onto your SD card is an insurmountable technical hurdle. You have multiple options for the second part. You could install something on Windows that can access a Linux file system and load it directly onto the card. You could SSH into the device over wifi and load it up with roms that way. Not as fast but easier especially if you just want to put a few roms on it at a time. Or you could even find premade disk images with all the roms if you look around. It takes very little effort as long as you don't want to do anything really crazy.

>> No.6519105

all this basic bitch taste

>> No.6519727

>>6518754
GBA only works with the horribly inaccurate gPSP though, no? Not to mention even that isn’t full speed on some games. I wouldn’t call GBA emulation good until mGBA gets a dynarec on it, which at this rate is never,

>> No.6519735

>>6518758
>Androids are designed to let you use them as a linux computer pretty much
Jesus, you’re one of those r/PCMASTERRACE people who just look at big number = better specs aren’t you? Android is perhaps the single worst operating system for emulation (maybe iOS is worse) but retards like yourself will continue shilling it until the end of time. As I’ve said in this dumpster fire of a thread multiple times now, shell out and get a Switch if you’re not poor, otherwise your mobile emulator setup *will* be heavily compromised. I’m not even much of a fan if the Switch as its own console, it’s got a library if not shit, but goddamn is it a godsend for the barren wasteland of decent handheld emulation.

>> No.6519740

>>6519735
*library of hot shit

>> No.6519810

Vita for everything.

>> No.6519828

>>6519810
Only correct answer
>inb4 MUH SNES INACCURACY
Choke on nigger dicks.

>> No.6519843

>>6517960
I should hack my 3ds but there's too much I care about on there I don't want to fuck it up. I still just use a PSP which is fine because I play a lot more Genesis than Snes.

>> No.6519871

>>6519843
underage or just tech illiterate?

>> No.6519976

>>6519843
Use bannerbomb3 plus unsafe mode to hack it. Takes like 20mins and it's easy.

>> No.6520007

>>6519727
mGBA dynarec is vaporware. I don't really care about accuracy. If I did I would play on my PC or better yet bring out the original hardware. I own many GBAs and a flash cart but it's not in the same country as me right now. I didn't bring my consoles because I planned on staying for 3 months and it turned into 3 years.

>> No.6520063
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6520063

I like the 3ds in big part for its emulation/retrocompatibility but man, this shit is shameful.

>> No.6520109

>>6519871
Old and lazy lol.

>>6519976
It's my wife who mostly uses the 3ds now anyways. Maybe I'll hack my switch when that's a thing but for now psp is fine when I want genesis and stuff. There's little on snes I wish that I didn't play to death already

>> No.6520129

>>6520063
Why? All you fags piled on me for pedantic wording issues.

>> No.6520158

>>6517963
>>6517960
>3DS
that's clearly a 2DSXL

>> No.6520163

>>6520129
>outright lies about performance and compatibility
>wording issues
okay

>> No.6520195

>>6519092
Lying is bad, you know.

>> No.6520212

>>6519828
>I'm okay with shit performance so you should be too!
retard

>> No.6520314

>>6518076
Vita N64 emulation has vastly improved.

>> No.6520516

>>6517960
new 2ds, but I only emulate hand held games on it. retro console games I emulate on my Wii and play on a CRT

>> No.6520637

>>6518881
Not really. Maybe your emulators are very new and made for win10 64 bit computers by zoomers or something but mine are not.

My old 1.4 ghz 512 ram android did fine several years ago with many emulators, though I don't recall how n64 did as I mostly played gba games on it.

>>6518982
Linux is hard to install software from the tar as they are trying to hook you into their network of cultists. Android you just execute the tar with no online access and it ought to work fine in contrast.

It's more hermit, and yes that is ironic due to what google is with that all seeing eye, than linux computers. These devices I like because they have no sat. access. I'd prefer no bluetooth nor wifi too but oh well. Hopefully it won't turn on while I'm in the woods broadcasting my area. If it did I doubt it'd get that far.

But emulators, unless it's gen 5+, they don't need gobs of resources. They just don't, or didn't assuming that you people are using newer emulators.

>>6519735
Not really, I just know what computers are. Androids have a fuck ton of people developing for them as it's basically just porting linux to android's arm stuff. In current year it's already done. On top of that they have decent hardware specs to the point where they render stuff like raspberry pi's moot even if pi's were cheaper, of which they are not.

>>6519828
If something can't even do snes then it's not worth considering.

>>6520516
>>6518076
And the ds is even more shit than psp, or so I hear. The ram on the 2ds/3ds was fucking low as shit too, there's no way it's good.


How can something with win95 level's of ram likely do anything? Just how hard are you people hacking these things?

"128 mb ram"

I don't even want to see one of these 'new' devices in my presence. I may vomit.

>> No.6520641

>>6518087
>even paying attention to the Internet hardly at all past 07

It all died famicom.

>>6518094
Indeed.

>>6518098
We all had an agreement on this. It's 2007+ that everything got awful. Going backwards is fair but the point of 07 is "it's as new as is safe".

>> No.6520642

>>6520637
>Linux is hard to install software from the tar as they are trying to hook you into their network of cultists
Exactly. I'm no seeing many upsides.

>> No.6520645

>>6520641
>We all had an agreement on this. It's 2007+ that everything got awful. Going backwards is fair but the point of 07 is "it's as new as is safe".
I thought 2006 was the year anons generally settled, but at any rate, I said 2005 was comfier, not the year that things when to shit.

tl;dr we both agree on both points and we both have some form of autism but it's ok.

>> No.6520653

>>6520637
Based actual informed anon.
I'm sick of every retard who says "just get a psp/vita/n3ds bruh, they're perfect for emulation!" when the psp is an outdated piece of shit, the vita has no devs who care to optimize stuff like SNES properly, and 3DS is a crapshoot as a whole being worse than the vita for emulation.

You're actually better off with a phone or chinese handheld. The only portable console that is reliable for emulation is the switch, and I'd argue that it hardly counts as truly pocket "portable" considering how bulky it is.

>> No.6520659

>>6520637
>But emulators, unless it's gen 5+, they don't need gobs of resources. They just don't, or didn't assuming that you people are using newer emulators.
Uh yeah. If you don't have a decent processor with enough RAM you're not going to be able to run Rogue Squadron I, II, or Rebel Strike (III).

Who do you think is on there bitching that they can't find a device that can't hack 4th or third generations? lol

>> No.6520661

>>6520642
Use lakka plus some light linux like lubuntu. That's what I do. Lubuntu comes with a bitorrent on it already, a decent firefox, and when lakka is 64 bit it can do n64 emulation, though I don't know how often this new distro glitches.

It's only issue is needing network access to move the psx bios in, for some faggy reason. I hate zoomerware so much.

>>6520645
Big Bang Theory is 07. Iphone is 07. And other bad things happened. Every normalfaggot got online past 07 to the point it hit critical mass. The internet was many sites, not monopolized to hell from the normalfagging. Anime sites had no ads, it's just way different. Flea markets died and money raped the internet really really hard.

>> No.6520670

>>6520661
>Use lakka plus some light linux like lubuntu. That's what I do. Lubuntu comes with a bitorrent on it already, a decent firefox, and when lakka is 64 bit it can do n64 emulation, though I don't know how often this new distro glitches.
>It's only issue is needing network access to move the psx bios in, for some faggy reason. I hate zoomerware so much.
That's all good to know, but why do that when I can do all that now? The RAM I save and CPU cycles saved I will not use, I promise you.
Unless I want to edit a video, but I'm not going to do that and play a game on the same machine anyway.

>> No.6520671

>>6520659
>liking star wars games

Anon I...

>>6520653
Yes, people are normalfaggots that are all happy over a brand. Consoles should be banned is my take.

>> No.6520672

>>6520661
>Big Bang Theory is 07. Iphone is 07.
Sold. 2007 it is.

>> No.6520684

>>6520670
The reason is microsoft is more likely to report you to the police if the police were to pay them for your information. Same thing with jewgle, of whom already work for the state. Androids are evil, so is microsoft with it's lack of privacy, so.... yeah. Linux they try to get away from it. I like the retroid because it's not a phone but smaller than a tablet. Then again I don't even own one and use a normal phone right now with no sim card in it. It still has sat. access of which pisses me off. Amber alerts and emergency calls can happen, meaning they could hax my phone anytime they want and know where I am all of the time. So I never would want to buy a tablet, too big for holding in the hand, but have before to put it on a table in front of me, and basically who puts buttons on some tablet? They're too big. Break easy due to size.

>>6520672
Also cpu's past 07 have backdoors in them so the cia can hax you from afar, and cars got chipped too to stop you from running around and to also watch you.

circa 07 is 1984's critical mass hitting.

>> No.6520732

>>6520671
>Consoles should be banned is my take.
You were doing so well and then cringe.
Unless you're referring to the blm bullshit on home screens, then based.

>> No.6520749

>>6520732
>blm bullshit on home screens
What is that?

>> No.6520758

>>6520749
If you play Call of Duty on your Söybox, it says "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on the home screen, every time. And it cannot be removed, as yet.
Modern gaming is officially cucked.

>> No.6520767

>>6520758
I see. Thankfully I don't play CoD. Crisis averted.

>> No.6520780

>>6520767
Yeah me too. If my real NES or even my non-Internet connected Wii ever starts spouting politics I'm going for the hammer.

>> No.6521169

>>6520661
>It's only issue is needing network access to move the psx bios in
Install something on your PC that can access a Linux file system and move it in that way.

>> No.6521419

>>6517960
vita is better than a n3ds, the only thing people could argue is about a minority of snes games that can't cap the 60fps but most of the library runs at fullspeed even the special chip games. vita has a better screen, controls, battery, functions, homebrews, game ports, on overall you can play more retro games on a vita than a n3ds with more stability and comfort, i could even argue that the vita library is better than the 3ds library but that's subjective, and i have them both btw.

>> No.6521520

>>6521419
He never asked which was better but I agree with you.

>> No.6521728

>>6517967
>not playing GBA games natively as VC injects
>using twilightshit over a flashcart for DS games
Absolutely retarded post

>> No.6522142

>>6520653
>the vita has no devs who care to optimize stuff
lol, vita-homebrew exploded in recent months, especially re: optimizing and graphics.

>> No.6522236

>>6522142
>exploded
I'd hardly call one dev making n64 slightly less shit "exploding" anon. Compare it to the switch scene which is absolutely booming in comparison.
If people actually cared about the Vita we'd have proper SNES accuracy by now.

>> No.6522284
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6522284

When you hold Start or Select before launching a DS game on a 3DS, the game will be displayed in its original resolution. Doing so on a XL model will make the screen about the same size of an original DS, so I have this question: if I did this with GBC/GBA games (which is possible) would it be the same size as an actual GBC/GBA? If anyone could test that, that would be really nice.

>> No.6522302

>>6522284
The image would be ever so slightly larger than on an actual GB, but I’m talking -very- slightly. For all intents and purposes they’re the same size.

>> No.6522309

>>6522302
*an actual GBA
GB/GBC games at 1:1 on the XLs are noticeably smaller. It’s not to the point of being unplayable, but the extreme window boxing makes me wish RA on 3DS supported overlays.

>> No.6522330

>>6522302
>>6522309
Thanks fren. I think GB/GBC games can be played without holding Start/Select, but GBA just looks blurry and pixelated, so I was wondering how small they were when compared to an actual GBA.

>> No.6522335

>>6522284
It's not the "same size". It's the same resolution.

>> No.6522346

>>6522335
>the game will be displayed in its original resolution
I know that. What I asked was if the game (when displayed in its original resolution) will have the same screen size as the original hardware.

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>>6517960
nice but don't bother with PS1 on N3DS

>> No.6522359
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6522359

best way to play GBA natively

>> No.6522364
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6522364

>>6522359
the other best way

>> No.6522398

>>6522352
why? I've tried a few games and aside from some reverberation in the audio they play fine. you arent using bin/cue files are you?

>> No.6522490

>>6522309
RA on 3DS don't support overlays? Damn.

>> No.6522495

>>6522398
Can it play Bloody Roar 2 or Tekken 3 full speed? I heard those games pushes emulators on low power hardwares.

>> No.6522528

>>6522495
just tried a round of tekken 3, it's definitely not full speed but it's not "awful." probably like 3/4 speed with pretty good audio. it might run better if I fiddled with the settings more but I cant be bothered

>> No.6522531

>>6522528
I see. It's not for people who mainly wants PS1 emulation then.

>> No.6522541

>>6522531
PSP/Vita has that market cornered

>> No.6522565

>>6522284
I made some calculations
The XL screen is 10.84cm x 6.02cm (400 × 240 resolution)
The GBA screen is 6.12cm x 4.08cm (240×160 res)
Because the height of the 3ds and width of the gba are both 240px, we can assume the image on the XL will be just a little bit smaller than a real gba screen. But at least it's bigger than a GBA micro!

>> No.6522685

>>6522565
I see! Thank you very much! On DS mode, is about the same size of an actual DS (like >>6522284 pic), but on GBA mode it looked a tad smaller. Thanks again, fren.

>> No.6522930

>>6518156
you using beetle psx cores? try changing CPU Dynarec to Max Performance on the options. if that doesnt solve it, you might have run-ahead enabled, disable that because somehow it causes weird stuttering issues with PSX cores on my phone, try if it works out for you. if that still doesnt solve your problem, buy a new phone or just play on your laptop/PC.

>> No.6523410 [DELETED] 

Who is that jabroni below talking to?

>> No.6523696

>>6522930
>CPU Dynarec
I've tried to look for that option and could it be that this one only exists in Beetle PSX HW? Since iOS only seems to have normal Beetle PSX and there this option doesn't exist. I feel like the iOS core is just fucked in general, since the game runs just fine, at 60fps, and I can even fast-forward with it still running great. N64 games also run well. I doubt it's the phone's fault, although that one is soon 5 years old, so it could just be that I overestimate the power of these things. I only used my phone for portable emulation anyway. If I were to get really serious about it, I'd probably buy the OneGX thingy or GPD Win 3 whenever those come out, just hope the build quality is good as in it doesn't break after 3 years.

>> No.6523715

>>6522565
That’s wrong. Compare the documented PPI and we can see the GBA’s is slightly higher, meaning a 1:1 image on both consoles will be larger on the 3DS. Albeit not by much.

>> No.6523717

>>6522528
>Not full speed
>Not awful

>> No.6524551 [DELETED] 

my phone, or I would if I didn't have other things I prefer when not home with my PC which does the emulations and such better

>> No.6524641

>>6521728
I don't understand why nobody has made an "injector" for Nintendo DS games given the documentation of nds-bootstrap says launching it from TwilightMenu is not required. but yeah at least mGBA doesn't leave the unused screen on-slightly

>> No.6526067

>>6518239
inazuma eleven

>> No.6526549

>>6518239
The World Ends With You and Ghost Trick are really good. There's a lot more worth playing though, it's got a pretty good library including some really good retro ports/remakes.

>> No.6526750

RG350M and PSVita, GBA and PSX run great for me on both devices

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6527934

>>6517960
Would you recommend getting N3DS XL to use it for emulation?
I have PSP 3000 that I use it to run PSX and it does so very well, But it struggles with certain SNES games.
I was thinking getting N3DS XL would be a decent SNES emulator, as well as opening the library of DS/DSi/3DS games.
How's the device as a whole?
How hard/complicated hacking it?
Flash cart is no longer needed?
It does support playing DS games right?
How should i pay for used N3DS XL? Anything I should watch out when buying?

>> No.6527941

>>6527934
For playing DS games you'll want to get a DS flash cart. They are very cheap. Compatibility is better that way.

>> No.6527952
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6527952

>>6527934
This thread has motivated me to try and see what I can do on the 3DS once again. NES is piss easy of course, same with GB/C, GBA is native, things get funky with SNES and PSX. PSX is simpler because there’s only one real option, PCSX ReARMed, and it runs a few more simplistic sprite based games alright. I’ve been playing through Persona 2 on it, pic related, it’s not perfect but it runs full speed the vast majority of the time. and it’s very playable. However, do keep in mind a majority of games are still unplayable on this.

SNES is a clusterfuck, too many competing options and I’m still not sure any of them are *good*. There’s VC injects using Canoe, which is a mixed bag because it doesn’t support any enhancement chips, any ROMs over a certain size (4MB or 6MB, I forget), and needs per game patches for a lot of games to even work properly. SNES9x for Old 3DS is also wonky, it takes a lot of shortcuts to get to full speed, making a lot of games run with glitches, though I haven’t seen a single game not run at full speed on my new 3DS. However what kills me about this one is a persistent frame pacing issue, the game reports a constant 60fps but every few seconds there’s a very noticeable skip. Might not bother the less scrutinizing but it annoys the fuck out of me. Input lag is also a wonky one here, unlike Canoe. It’s worse in some games than others, Do-Re-Mi Fantasy is basically lag free but fucking Super Mario World feels like molasses. It’s hit or miss overall.

Next is Retroarch, I’ve been messing with SNES9x 2005 Plus, formerly CATSFC Plus, and it’s probably the best experience I’ve had so far. Other than Yoshi’s Island (which is broken on all of these and has a decent GBA port that runs flawlessly) and Mario RPG (probably other SA-1 games by extension) lagging, the ones that run at full speed run *very* nicely. No framepacing issues, no visual glitches I’ve seen, better input lag across the board. 1/2

>> No.6527956

>>6517960
SFN and MD games look great on the 3ds. Enabling 3d even gives neat pseudo-scanlines.

>> No.6527961

>>6527952
2/2 Holding that one back though is the aforementioned performance and a very annoying issue that causes the audio to be slightly distorted. I’m still trying to work out what causes this as it seems to be only through the internal speakers, or at least more prevalent with them. Headphones seem okay, though.

There’s also SNES9x 2002 and 2005 in Retroarch. From what I understand, SNES9x for Old 3DS (aka the bubble2k version) uses 2002 with an improved audio core, and 2005 Plus uses 2005 with an improved audio core. I’ve yet to experiment with the other versions of Retroarch SNES, but 2002 I know has really shit audio so I’ll be skipping that. I’m wondering if 2005 has the same distortion issue as Plus. It will almost certainly have worse audio quality across the board, though. The Old 3DS stand-alone would be great in theory, as it combines the fastest version with the improved audio core, but the lag and framepacing holds it back. It’s also generally less polished than Retroarch, you need to turn off the 3D slider manually and the bottom screen stays illuminated, for example.

If you’re not an audio snob I’d try SNES9x 2005, if you are, have fun with this nightmare of a rabbit hole, or be smarter and just don’t use a 3DS for emulation in the first place. Will note that 2005 Plus *seems* fine with headphones but I didn’t use it for long that way.

>> No.6527981

>>6527952
>Super Mario World feels like molasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cWFLr3UpyM

>> No.6527984
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>>6527956
It’s 2D mode that gives the scanline effect, due to the 800x240 resolution meaning each rendered pixel is represented by two horizontally half size pixels, with a much larger gap between each vertical line. When 3D is disabled, this gives a vaguely similar effect to scanlines on a TV.

>> No.6527987

>>6527981
I have no idea what this monkey is saying, please don’t respond to me with your nonsense.

>> No.6528087
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>>6527984
Small update, did some more testing with Retroarch. SNES9x 2005 Plus is perfectly fine with headphones. It’s a bit scratchy on the speakers, but they’re not great anyway. If you’re the type who finds the speakers acceptable, I doubt you’d notice the issue anyway. Also tried regular 2005, immediately noticed audio issues. In Do-Re-Mi here it wasn’t a quality issue, most of the channels of audio simply weren’t playing at all. I’d avoid that one unless needed for speed on specific games.

>> No.6528191

>>6517968
bubble2k play snes romhacks that the vc won't even boot up. It also runs at 60fps on my $80 slate 2ds.

>> No.6528205

>>6519843
it won't fuck it up. i hacked mine using the same SD i already had all my eshop games, saves and apps on it and lost nothing. it's foolproof. just do it.

>> No.6528221

>>6522309
you just get the original .gb or .gbc file then use the new super ultimate injector to change it to full screen then convert to .cia

>> No.6528229

>>6527934
>>6527941
fuck a flashcart, the year is 2020, grandpa. you install twilight menu++ and run the .nds games from there.

>> No.6528475

>>6528229
>twilight menu
The only nice thing about that is the interface. Other than that, it's super buggy. You'd be better off with a cheap flashcart.

>> No.6528487

>>6527934
>Would you recommend getting N3DS XL to use it for emulation?
Yes, I would. You can inject games to run with the built-in emulators or run the homebrew ones. The snes9x port takes advantage of the N3DS processor.
>How hard/complicated hacking it?
Pretty simple. Following the 3ds.guide it will take you between 15~30 minutes. Reading everything since you're new to the 3DS.
>Flash cart is no longer needed?
Twilight Menu is an alternative, but it's kinda buggy. I recommend one of those cheap flashcarts for better compatibility.

>> No.6528493

>>6518239
Retro Game Challenge, obviously

>> No.6528502

>>6518409
>A two dimensional plane is 3d polygons

Polygon. It's a single texture mapped background. This is like saying DOS Doom is 3d because its first person, it's faux-3d if anything

>> No.6528504

>>6528475
>>6528487
i haven't noticed a single bug in newest twilight release. also you just need to go in the TM menu and overclock and all the games run butter smooth.

>> No.6528507

>>6527952
>>6527981
turn off auto save state ya noobs

>> No.6528845

>>6528504
Maybe it was just me then, but the touch screen wasn't working properly. Drawing a straight line was impossible, as the game would act as if I had "lifted" the stylus during the act. I tested with 3DS games, built-in software, DS flashcard and physical media. Everything worked fine: I just had this problem with TW. Some games also didn't work, so I gave up.

>> No.6528850

>>6518239
The DS has so many good games. One of my favorites is GTA: Chinatown Wars. Sure, it got ported to the PSP with better graphics, but playing on a DS/3DS is better just because of the touch screen.

>> No.6529084

>>6528507
I'm not talking about SRAM saving

>> No.6531130

>>6517960
The Atari Flashback Portable delivers.

>> No.6531432

>>6517960
PSP for PS1 and Genesis / Megadrive games, 3DS for those moments i wanna play SNES games.

>> No.6533308

>>6518159
OP didn't reply to this post... yikes! Confirmed liar!