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6510817 No.6510817 [Reply] [Original]

>not the best selling console
>tiny library, and even smaller subset of that made it to the west
>all the games people love on it had comparable stuff on the other systems in greater quantities
>completely haphazard scrambling leadership
>used carts, which worked inconsistently
>nintendo monopoly lead to carts being absurdly expensive
>games came in shitty boxes that no one has anymore
>games looked like complete ass
>even a lot of 1st party games had subpar gameplay
>bad controller that suffered reliability issues
>the turning point when nintendo became a pigheaded, arrogant, authoritarian state run video game company
and yet
>nobody can shut the fuck up about it
>'revolutionary' system
>symbolizes the 90s itself to most people
>most gamers if asked to name 5th gen games on the spot will start listing n64 ones or get to n64 ones very quickly disproportionately so compared to the libraries of the systems
>n64 prices are through the fucking roof
>the N64 is the console I always see in the wild both as a kid and as an adult, extremely prevalent everywhere compared to both sales figures and other systems of the time

Can someone explain why to me?

>> No.6510818

rent free.

>> No.6510821

>>6510818
this isnt a troll post. sorry if it reads that way. im just curious

>> No.6510823

Based N64, obsessed OP.

>> No.6510825

it has good games that people fondly remember

>> No.6510826

>>6510821
>this isnt a troll post
Allow me to doubt.
Also, what did you mean by "carts, which worked inconsistently"?

>> No.6510828

>>6510826
even as a kid i remember getting frustrated with having to put carts in and out and turn the console on and off and blow on it and do this shit to get my game working

>> No.6510831

>>6510817
It had Mario 64, OoT, and Goldeneye. Even if those were the only 3 games on the console I'm sure peoples memory of it would be just as fond.

>> No.6510835

THE PS1 IS OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY
ID RATHER TAKE A FUCKING SEGA SATURN
I FUCKING HATE N64. IT WAS OS ASS. I WAS A KID AND I COULD TELL. I WAS HAPPY I HAD A PS1 INSTEAD OF A N64.

>> No.6510839

>>6510828
You must have had some hands-me-down carts in very bad conditions. Clean the pins.
N64 carts are very unlikely to have that kind of pin contact problem, though, it was mostly more common on NES, not as much in SNES/Genesis, and definitely almost not a problem on N64. I think you're bullshitting.

>> No.6510841

The nostalgia is the same for your first crappy car. Massively imperfect things that you are forced to enjoy inculcates a sort of Stockholm syndrome. Its also why people romanticize savages and the third world

>> No.6510843

>>6510817
I got duped into buying an N64 back in 1998, because we had a SNES before.
Big mistake. At the time, distribution was terrible in my country, I couldn't trade games with friends because they all had PSX or Saturn and games were more expensive.
Yeah, Super Mario 64 and Zelda OOT were great, but little else was worthy in my opinion.

Now, if that wasn't bad enough, I now can't stand looking at the games for it compared to the 32-bit consoles, my PAL console only supports composhite, and the best games for the system have been ported to DS/3DS or have Virtual Console releases that at least are 480p.

If I could go back in time, I would unironically pick the Saturn and a Game Boy Color instead of an N64.

>> No.6510845

>>6510835
Saturn + N64 are the definitive 5th gen experience.
PS1 is the jack of all trades, master of none.

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>>6510843
>and the best games for the system have been ported to DS/3DS or have Virtual Console releases that at least are 480p.
I wish

>> No.6510860

>>6510817
Carts were far more consistent than disks. disk based games back then still suffered from long loadtimes, becoming unreadable with a moment of carelessness, and required the game system to have a loud motor that would wear out over time because of certain games that abused the hell out of the system if you were unlucky enough to own them.
During the N64, there was little room for video scenes or nice audio, but compression technology advanced rapidly by, and with modern consoles the amount of a game needs to run is seen as less impressive and more as an annoyance since even physical media games require 90 gig patches only because the audio is needlessly uncompressed.

>> No.6510861

>>6510817
I don't understand the fanaticism surrounding this console either. It didn't have a lot of good games. Compared to PS1 the library was tiny and expensive. By the time it came out, P5 pentium was already out for 3 years and cheap, PC gaming was becoming affordable.

It has a bunch of design issues too, and a lot of the games didn't have a good framerate despite having the advantage of cartridge. The controller's center of gravity sucks, it feels like playing an intellivision. Most of the third party games it had were ported to other consoles and PC. It had too many manchild games, Super Smash Bros was one of the cringiest games I've ever played and it created a cancerous fanbase.

Maybe that's the reason N64 succeeded. It's made for children and manchildren. It's full of nostalgia. It brought happiness for the manchild nintendo worshipers, even though it brought disappointment for everyone else.

>>6510849
>manchild game
>best game
Point proven.

>> No.6510864

>>6510839
dude what? n64 basically spawned the blow on it meme

>> No.6510865

>>6510841
>>6510861

plenty of people praise n64 who have no nostalgia

>> No.6510869

>>6510861
Whats wrong with Smash?

>> No.6510871

Someone convince me not to spend $101 on four n64 games

>> No.6510874
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>>6510871
>spend $101 on four n64 games

>> No.6510882

>>6510871
add a couple of bucks and you can have an n64 flashcart instead

>> No.6510883

>>6510874
How is it consooming if the money doesnt go to a big company making cancer?
Also what about $58 for 3?

>> No.6510884

>>6510869
It's a cringy cameo game with a disgusting fanbase.

>>6510874
>>6510871
Back in the 90s, $100 couldn't even buy you 2 n64 games. They were expensive. 50 bucks could get me a dozen of pirated PS1 games.

>> No.6510887

Can someone please convince me not to spend all my student loans on a Tristar 64 + 64DD?
I gotta have this shit man...

>> No.6510889

>>6510861
>>manchild game
You don't like Goemon because it's "manchild"?
Damn, you must be one of the fabled "Mature Gamers". Based, or something.

>> No.6510894

>>6510864
>meme this, meme that
OK zoomer. I doubt you ever held a real N64 cart in your hands.

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>>6510889
Yes I called it a manchild game. What's the matter manchild? Why play that adolescent putrid weeb garbage when you could've played something like pic related instead.

>> No.6510896

>>6510894
What?

>> No.6510898

>>6510884
>It's a cringy cameo game with a disgusting fanbase.
The reason Smash is actually so good is because the whole proof-of-concept development period went by before they even decided it was going to be a Nintendo crossover game. As you probably already know, it was going to be a sentai/tokusatsu-ish game with original characters.
About the fanbase, I agree but then again most if not all fanbases are "cringy". Yes, your favorite game also has a shameful fanbase.

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>>6510895
Damn, based Mature Gamer. I bet you're so mature and so awesome IRL.

>> No.6510908

>>6510895
Desperately attempting to look mature to others just makes you look more childish.

>> No.6510910

>>6510902
Literally looks worse than Saturn games.

>> No.6510912

Are we getting into the N64-hate season again?

>> No.6510916

Why are Sonyfags this obsessed?

>> No.6510918
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>>6510910
Why are Sony fanboys so hateful?
If you have so many games to play in your gargantuan library, then go and play video games. You sony boys are constantly shitposting instead of playing games, or even discussing your own games. All the time obsessed shitposting against N64 or Saturn.

>> No.6510919

>>6510845
I'm kinda with this, but the only time that I'll play my N64 is with friends. Other than that, Saturn all day. That system aged very well once you dig deep into the game library. Of course not everyone will give it a try then troll with hate and Bernie Stolar pics.

>> No.6510926

>>6510919
what fukin games are on saturn?
its like the worst of both worlds. you cant play nintendo games AND everything related to it is expensive as fck

>> No.6510934 [DELETED] 

>>6510902
>fat ugly faggot turns himself into a bug to peek on some underage girls panties
If you think this is funny youre a manchild pedo.

>> No.6510936

>>6510934
ok

>> No.6510937

>>6510934
Underage girls didn't wear that kind of kimono in Edo Japan.
t. actual weeb who knows a bit of history.

>> No.6510943

>>6510869
nothing, and even if you don't care for the gameplay there's nothing "cringy" about it. The word has been so diluted it just means "I don't like it"

>> No.6511059

i hate nintendo so fucking much

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>>6511059
good.

>> No.6511079

>>6510817
it's simple OP: Nintendo 64 was a lot of peoples first console.

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6511081

>>6510817
THE FUCKING MISERABLE CONTROLLER

>> No.6511082

>>6511079
Again. its loved by people who have no nostalgia for it

>> No.6511083

>>6511082
give me ten (10) examples

>> No.6511084

>>6511079
Not even close for me, started with Intellivision. N64 is still on my top 5 systems (NES, Genesis, SNES, Saturn, N64)

>> No.6511085

>>6511081
i never understood these memes. every dumbass youtuber always says
>WTF IS THIS ? HOW DO I USE THIS!?!?
i never had any trouble with it. i just dont fucking get it

>> No.6511090

>>6511084
why

>> No.6511095

>>6511090
They're the systems that got most of my favorite games that I still enjoy today.
I've enjoyed games on PC, Playstation and even 3DO, though.

>> No.6511098

Best console ever made
Cope gaylord

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>>6511085
how big are your hands? can you reach everything or are you that retarded and think its fine to move your hand to another grip? its garbage

>> No.6511103

>>6511095
you'ire an idiot. playstation objectively has better stuff

>> No.6511105

>>6511103
k

>> No.6511106

>>6511102
1. it was fine with my baby kid hands and my adult hands
2. how the fuck is it not fine to move your hand to another grip?
3. how tiny are your hands that you cant claw and use both the analog and dpad at the same time if you really really need to (tip: you dont)

>> No.6511107

>>6511103
>you'ire an idiot.
Kek. This is basically the sonydrone version of "no u dont u idort"

>> No.6511108

>>6511106
1. your a liar.
2. its not fine.
3. fucking clawfag

>> No.6511110

>>6511095
why do you enjoy replaying games so much when you already know everything about them

>> No.6511113

>>6511082
People can have nostalgia for pj64 emulator they downloaded as a 12 year old too.

>> No.6511114

>>6511108
im not lying. why would i lie about this

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6511115

Based

>> No.6511116

>>6511095
I guess you didn't many PC games.

>> No.6511118

>>6511113
Yes i factored that into that statement when I made it and stand by it. Plenty of people with no nostalgia for n64 like it and prefer it.

>> No.6511119

>>6511110
Different reasons, many games I replay I haven't played in many years so I get to re-live most of it.
Another reason is multiplayer.

>> No.6511120

>>6511103
cope

>> No.6511121

>>6511119
Do you find yourself frequently gathering friends to play N64 games?

>> No.6511123

>>6511115
Fuck I wish /vr/ was up to 4th gen only.

>> No.6511129

>>6511121
Used to, but now I play with my kids mostly.
>>6511116
Maybe, but I'm not too big on sim games or FPSs. Games like Goldeneye and Turok are big on N64, but they're not among my favorites, not even close, even tough I'll play some Goldeneye MP no problem, it's not something I'd choose.

>> No.6511136

does the n64 have any rpgs?

>> No.6511138

>>6511136
Like 3 or 4, only 1 is good and it's a very easy RPG. 64 doesn't have much in genre variety.

>> No.6511139

>>6511136
Not many but yeah it has some. Shiren 2 is probably the most favorited in Japan, while Ogre Battle 64 is probably the most favorited in the west.

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>>6511114
either you havent used the controller inthat long and are nostalgic or you're fine playing with garbage

>> No.6511146

>>6511102
Keyboard and mouse is objectively the worst controller. You need like, 10 hands to use that thing.

>> No.6511151

>>6511129
Even if you're not a fan of FPS or sim, PC had a huge and diverse library in the 90s, and most of them didn't get a console port.

Outcast, Prince of Persia 3D, Tomb Raider, Dark Forces 2, Mech Warrior, Crusader, Interstate 76, Baldur's Gate, GTA, Fallout, just to name some of them.

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6511152

>>6511146
This.
Also super nintendo adding 2 buttons and shoulder buttons is insane, you need like 10 fingers in each hand to handle all that.

>> No.6511153

>>6511151
I don't want to play any of those games

>> No.6511157

>>6511151
I understand and I have played most of them. Not a big fan on cinematic platformers like Out of this World or Prince of Persia myself, always was more on the arcade/japanese-style games, hence whey I stick to consoles mostly, but PC is cool too. I love point and click adventure games and those are almost always better on PC.

>> No.6511158

>>6510835
Only correct post. N64 soi coping posters are the worst people of this board. I'd rather have more Fortnite zoomers than manchildren that have been in denial for 25 years.

>> No.6511160

>>6511158
N64 and Saturn > ShovelStation.
Cope harder.

>> No.6511165

>>6511157
PC had plenty of King of Fighter and Street Fighter ports too. I remember playing Megaman X3 and Megaman Legends as well. Indie devs were already flourishing in the 90s and they created countless number of arcade games you usually find in a bootleg compilation CD. N64 didn't even have a lot of classic japanese style arcade games so I don't know why you brought this up.

>> No.6511168

>>6511153
You're a fan of mario party then I guess?

>> No.6511171

>>6511165
I understand, but consoles always had more of japanese/arcade style.
As for N64, that's why it's not the only console I like, I also included Saturn on my top 5.

>> No.6511173

>>6511168
>if you don't like these handful of games I name dropped, you could ONLY like mario party, then.
Anon...

>> No.6511179

>>6511168
No, I'm playing Thunder Force 3 right now and it's a ton of fun.

>> No.6511227

>>6511151
Honestly man the japanese in the 90s really just *got* video games in a way westerners didnt. they really made really fun experiences to enjoy

>> No.6511230

>>6511227
I think you're just a weeb tb'h.

>> No.6511234

>>6511230
nah man not at all

>> No.6511245

>>6511234
You prefer japanese style games for whatever reason. That's japanophilia.

>> No.6511248

>>6511245
uhhh gesundheit doc

>> No.6511252

>>6511245
That's just common sense

>> No.6511276

>>6510835
what psx games dont lookbad with bad sound?

>> No.6511278
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6511278

Imagine owning a console where the only worthwhile game is a bing bing wahoo.

>> No.6511325

>>6511278
based /v/ console warrior

>> No.6511420

i genuinely hate the n64 so much i cant sleep. ever since i was a kid ive been fucke

>> No.6511501

>>6510817
Zoomer here, I was alive when the N64 was relevant but my first console was the gamecube. I recently purchased an N64 along with 4 games as a father’s day present but have had time to try the games myself before I make the drive over this weekend.
Easily my favorite has been DK64. The game is charming and I was able to get used to the controller pretty quickly. Honestly, the only times that I wish there were a second analog stick is when I have to walk across a narrow platform, that shit’s tedious as fuck. I like that the cartridge is a different color from the others too (it was half the reason I bought the game, though needing to buy the expansion pak fucking blowed).
Close second is Perfect Dark (glad for that expansion pak!). I gotta say it, first person shooters need two analog sticks if they’re going to be on a console (of course the best way to play an FPS will be always be with a keyboard and mouse). There’s no way to properly aim while moving, you have to stop and fiddle with the joystick in order to line up shots, it’s like RE4 with down syndrome. My best results came with using a machine gun of some kind and just shooting in the vague direction of the enemies and letting auto-aim do the rest. I like everything else about the game besides the controls. The spycam drone is an interesting idea but the datalink thing is a pointless and unnecessary extra step for unlocking terminals.
The other two games are sports titles I thought he would like; I played them just long enough to make sure they worked.
My conclusion: in an age where Steam and my PS4 like to randomly update various games and make me wait a lot before actually playing them, I do appreciate the N64’s famed lack of loading screens and wait times. The blocky character models aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but honestly they aren’t that distracting, what’s worse to me is the frequent use of fuzzy sprites in lieu of models (mainly for gates and such), those are garish.

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>>6511278
b-b-but O-ocarina!!!! IT CHANGED GAMING!!!!@! f-fuck SONY!!!!!!!!

>> No.6511556 [DELETED] 

>>6511501
>though needing to buy the expansion pak fucking blowed
the game actually came with the pak
funny thing about DK64 is that it only needed the pak because of a programming fuck-up
the game actually wasn't designed to use it, but due to a memory leak, the game crashes after a while, and they ran out of time to fix it, so they were forced to just require the expansion pak instead, which gives the game more memory to leak into. it doesn't fix the problem, but makes it take long enough to crash to not be much of a problem

>> No.6511575

>>6511556
>the game actually came with the pak
In 1999, yes. But I was referring to me, a week ago, when I bought the game on its own (just the cartridge) and discovered it wouldn’t run without the pak. I didn’t even know what this was, I purposefully did not look up much about the game (other than “it is good”) because I wanted to go into it “blind”. Well, I was more so blind-sighted when I was greeted by plain text on a black screen, which for a second I honestly thought was the N64’s version of the BSOD, telling me to put in this piece of plastic I didn’t own yet in order to make the game run.
That crash story is funny. I guess nowadays they’d just patch it after release. So many games in the last five years are released in virtually unplayable states before a patch comes out which fixes them.
What’s the most amount of time I can play DK64 for in one sitting before it crashes? And is it the only N64 game like this?

>> No.6511613

It's the same with the Master System, for an apparentl "nothing console" with "no games", there's at least a new thread about it every couple of days.

>> No.6511663

>>6511575
i deleted my post because in looking for details out of curiosity, since i'd heard it about a long time ago, i found it's possible that the story i know may be a myth
the game did have issues that the pak mitigated though
originally i heard it will run for about 10 hours with the pak before crashing

i don't know of any other N64 game where the pak was introduced to fix a problem like this, generally the pak was used as intended, for enhancements that needed more memory, or just to support fancier games
not many games actually need the pak

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Neat. Another thread where we shit on the N64. These are always fun.

>> No.6511978

>>6511940
how the shit does switch have 1449 games? isn't it only a couple years old?

>> No.6512020

>>6510817
>>games looked like complete ass
>>even a lot of 1st party games had subpar gameplay
>>nobody can shut the fuck up about it
>>6510821
Really contentious points for someone who is "not trolling." If you were just curious, you could have asked this without the bait that ruined this thread. This is just another shitty N64 vs PS1 thread and you're just another manchild who based his identity on his childhood console and never grew out of it. If you actually think this isn't a troll thread, you need to take a break from the internet for a month and learn how people who don't hate each other ask questions.

>> No.6512649

>>6511978
magnets

>> No.6512771 [DELETED] 

>>6511278
>anime tranny

>> No.6512836

>>6512771
So fucking sick of these trannime shitposters

>> No.6512867

>>6512020
Its not a troll thread and i thought it was commonly accepted that n64 looked like ass
most people agree it was very blurry
i dont understand your hostility

>> No.6513042

>>6512020
>ignores all other points to go after the borderline ones
This is twitter tier argument

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>>6512836

>> No.6513060

Stop liking the N64! Now!

>> No.6513128

>>6511146
i got problems with some games on keyboard but man u must suck if u need more hands

>> No.6513135

>>6511171
Whats so goodabt saturn

>> No.6513147

>>6511663
>i don't know of any other N64 game where the pak was introduced to fix a problem like this, generally the pak was used as intended, for enhancements that needed more memory, or just to support fancier games
>not many games actually need the pak
What I meant was, how many N64 games will crash if played for too long in one sitting? I want to let my dad know of any notable examples if and when he decides to get more games for the system after I give it to him.

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>>6513147
i don't know of any other games that will crash just from extended play times, though i wouldn't really recommend running an N64 for extended periods like 10 hours anyway, they can get pretty toasty, especially with the expansion pak, since they make a fair amount of heat, but just have a piece of bent metal for cooling (no fan)

>> No.6513194

>>6510828
This never happen to me
N64 was the best cart especially compared to the nes/snes

Kirby 64 somehow worked when it was slightly rusted

>> No.6513204

>>6510861
I don't get it too
https://www.strawpoll.me/20307786/r

I was shocked to see a majority of people want a mega pack for n64.

>> No.6513207

>>6510895

Had both, beat both, enjoyed both. Part of being an adult is being able to enjoy different things, anon.

>> No.6513214

>>6510910

Wow, what an insecure manboy. Polygons were what made 3D gaming in that era, like it or not.

>> No.6513215

>>6511978
1449 games noone will remember

>> No.6513235

>>6513204
n64 had much higher highs than the ps1 , but ps1 had a lot more highs

>> No.6513241

>>6510861
>Calling people machild on /vr/

>> No.6513251

I agree with OP. The games are basically held together with bubblegum and a lot of hope, and the games are pretty much dated and unplayable Now. Thank god all the best games have gotten an hd remake.

I recently got a playstation classic and man did I miss out.

>> No.6513257

>>6513251
>I recently got a playstation classic and man did I miss out.
Based playstation shill shitting on the 64.

>> No.6513719

>>6510817
Hi David.

>> No.6513723

>>6513257
Not a PS shill (the PS had a ton of fucking mediocre shit games) and the N64 is still fucking worse.
The mid-90s began the downfall of gaming and that generation of consoles should not be in /vr/.

>> No.6514064

>>6513047
An anonymous image board where I can bring fake girls to tears with a few words

>> No.6514121

>>6511663
>i don't know of any other N64 game where the pak was introduced to fix a problem like this, generally the pak was used as intended
This DK64 myth has already been disproven. Keep up to date.

>> No.6514163

>>6511940
>ps1
>ps2
Christ it really was the shovelstation wasn’t it?

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>>6514163

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>>6510818
Faggy cliche posts like yours should get you a weeklong ban, minimum.

>> No.6514259

>>6514179
N64 was the last Nintendo console I owned and I switched to Sony platforms thereafter but keep seething buddy

>> No.6514281

>>6510821
>Post same thread all the time
>not a troll

If you aren’t a troll, than you are insane. Because you do the same thing over and over expecting different results.

>> No.6514287

>>6511136
Super Robot Wars 64

>> No.6514308

>>6514121
Disprove it then

>> No.6514327

>>6514308
Straight from the programmer’s mouth.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/11/feature_donkey_kong_64_devs_on_bugs_boxing_and_20_years_of_the_dk_rap

>> No.6514717

>>6511978
shovelware

>> No.6514819

>>6510831
Goldeneye is overrated

I rather play Metal Gear Solid 64.

>> No.6514825

>>6510902
If Castlevania 64 release in 1996.

>> No.6515810

>>6511102
Confirmed for never actually having used an N64 controller

>> No.6515819

>>6513723
edgy

>> No.6515890

>>6514819
MGS' combat is so fucking garbage and the AI is literally retarded.

>> No.6515979

>>6510817
Nobody in Europe owned one of these, America just has shit taste

>> No.6516165

>>6515979
I mean, if your favorite console is anything past 4th gen, you do have shit taste anyway.
But just to prove you wrong, the guy who has the most extensive coverage of N64 on youtube is a brit guy.

>> No.6516310 [DELETED] 

>>6516165
6th gen literally predates the concept of my existence. i think it predates my parents even meeting.
What do you want me to do?

>> No.6516332

>>6510817
Before people were using numbered generation names, this was "the PS1 generation." N64 was agreed to be for "party games," Mario 64, and the two Zeldas.

Many not-that-great games dot the best-sellers list:
>Yoshi's Story
>Pokemon Stadium
>Donkey Kong 64
>Shadows of the Empire
>Kirby 64

Meanwhile, the PS1 best-sellers are all classics, with a couple exceptions:
>Frogger (actually this is a fun game)
>Croc: Legend of the Gobbos

>> No.6516339

>>6516332
kirby 64 is incredible though

>> No.6516342

>>6515890
I bet you still get alerts man

>> No.6516343

>>6510817
Honestly controllers shouldn't have handles every controller should just be a big brick I mean even the psone controller was just a snes control but with useless handles. I don't get why people wrap their fingers around controller handles as if their fingers were tenticals holding it with a death grip.

>> No.6516345

>>6516332
What's wrong with Yoshi's?

>> No.6516346

>>6516339
I don't think it holds a candle to Kirby's Adventure or Superstar.

>> No.6516348

>>6516343
i was gonna call bullshit but actually handles are bullshit. i just tested it myself with the n64. when im not holding the analog stick i basically just naturally grip it like an snes controller or something. the handles do nothing

>> No.6516350

>>6516345
It's so shallow that it barely qualifies as a platformer. 6/10 as a standalone game, 3/10 as a sequel to Yoshi's Island.

>> No.6516353

>>6516350
>shallow
how? it looks so amazing. it plays so tight

>> No.6516356

>>6516343
Your fingers naturally curl in when you rest your index fingers on the shoulder buttons.

>>6516348
Case in point: you don't use the R button that often in N64 games.

>> No.6516358

>>6516353
You're talking about the N64 game, right? It's a blurry mess because of the hardware's mandatory texture filtering. It's literally made for babies.

>> No.6516361

>>6516358
are you calling me a baby for liking a game? are you serious? how old are you man
Yoshis story is an amazing game. amazing sound amazing visual presentation amazing gameplay. Hell yeah dude Yoshi story.

>> No.6516363

Sony ruined gaming.

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>>6516358
>mandatory texture filtering

>mandatory

>> No.6516370

>>6516363
No it's graphic whores that ruined gaming and with tech getting better and better grapic whores get more and more demanding which means less time for making good games.

>> No.6516371

>>6516346
Honestly I think kirby 64 has a special place that should be expanded on.
Also I think it does what Yoshi's Story wants to do(a nonconfrontational inoffensive fun cute easy romp of a 2d platformer)
its cleaner and simpler looking with better gameplay. kirby himself makes cute noises every now and then without being annoying like the yoshis. and kirby's soundtrack has the merit of not sounding like a broken down circus funhouse during a grateful dead concert

>> No.6516373

>>6516370
n64 is literally the graphic whore console

>> No.6516374

>>6516332
Croc was a croc a shit fuck that game series.

>> No.6516380

>>6514163
Yes they unironicly were because Sony let any fool make games for their consoles but to be fair the wii and ds had a bunch of junk as well.

>> No.6516383

>>6516363
>segas games ended up scattered completely to the winds appearing on different consoles randomly with no rhyme or reason or just outright dying
this is the darkest fucking timeline man. I wish sega did well enough to still make consoles into 6th gen at least. or at the very least make a consistent partner with nintendo or something. instead they're everywhere. if you're a physical collector you just gotta buy every system if you want sega/former sega

>> No.6516384

>>6516383
Well maybe if they'd port their arcade games more I would've bought a dc.

>> No.6516403

>n64 got no jrpgs
>refusal to translate anything at all nearly as bad as sega
This is why your console died :D
the one jrpg type thing -PM- got lauded with praise and yet they were too dumb to even attempt it again or let anyone else attempt it

>> No.6516553 [DELETED] 

>>6516403
JRPGs sell consoles
thats a fact.
if mother 64 & fire emblem 64 game out itd be different

>> No.6516582

>>6516332
Shadows of the Empire is the best N64 game.

>> No.6516615

and they have somehow done it again with the switch

>> No.6516868

>>6516380
The Wii basically funded 3rd party development for the 360 and PS3 for the first few years.

>> No.6517239

It's cute that people bring up the Saturn in threads about the N64. The Saturn was nothing. A hapless joke. With no games and no legacy.

>> No.6517254

>>6516363
I don't think Sony did even though they kinda piss me off. It's modern gamers that ruined gaming. Not just "graphics whores" as the other guy put it. Nothing stops them from making good games with great graphics except the fact that people will buy them regardless. They will pay premium prices to play with slightly better graphics on their gaymen PCs so they can sit around saying dumb shit to their discord friends on voice chat. It's less about appreciating good games and more of an internet based social activity.

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>>6517239
Mistyped legacy

>> No.6517263

>>6516361
You must be at least 18 to post here.

>> No.6517264
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>>6517239

>> No.6517279

>>6516615
Switch is even worse, its just a rebranded off the shelf nvidia tablet with a crappy bluetooth controller attached, and people hail it as nintendo's second coming of christ. It's literally the most low effort console ever in history with the most low effort first party games ever made.

>> No.6517282

>>6510817

I wonder if this is the point where Nintendo decided to start sacrificing graphics when needed - I mean they clearly won the graphics department here and still took an L despite highest quality games. Obviously the cartridge had more to do with it, but this loss could have changed the mindset of graphics emphasis at N

>> No.6517283

>>6517279
they gave up making high-effort consoles after they made the DS and realised they don't need to to make money

>> No.6517284

The cardboard boxes for game cases is legitimately retarded.

>> No.6517301

>>6517282
GCN is still powerful though

>> No.6517304

did the n64 get any fun shmups or something?where are the games?

>> No.6517329

>>6517283
It was always their MO though, "lateral thinking with withered technology." When Nintendo strays from it it's not as lucrative for them. The Wii is widely considered to be a souped up GameCube right? Despite being behind the times when it came out it was wildly successful due to gimmicks and marketing. Same applies to the Switch. They had to justify the existence of their product in an age where parents would just as soon buy their kids an iPad.

>> No.6517336

>>6517301
Relative to its time of release, the N64 is more powerful than the GCN. But the GCN was fuckloads easier to develop for than the N64.

>> No.6517342

>>6517336
Also it had a lot more storage to work with. It got bumped up to the capacity of Dreamcast discs.

>> No.6517351

>>6517329
Switch is weak but modern technology. Wii and Wii U were weak AND old so modern engines couldn't be downscaled. Wii could have been just as cheap but with a more modern weak GPU like the Radeon X300 or X1300 and 128MBs RAM and the Wii U with a Radeon 5000-6000 series DX11 GPU.

Switch is one of the best systems Nintendo has ever made and one of the reasons there are third party games is the relatively modern SoC.

>> No.6517359

>>6517351
They benefited big time from Nvidia trying to make something out of the shield. The tablets didn't do much and the shield TV is a slightly successful niche product. But they did all the work necessary for Nintendo to create the Switch and successfully accomplish what they were trying to do with the Wii U.

>> No.6517365

>>6517351
>Wii and Wii U were weak AND old so modern engines couldn't be downscaled
I've always found this argument sort of bullshit. You can scale down just about any game down to a weaker console, except maybe those which rely on physics.

That cut-down Dead Rising port to Wii was more of a conscious choice to make the game casual than a necessity. Hell, they could have kept every single zombie in just by downgrading the graphics sufficiently, even into pre-rendered zombie sprites if they had to. And Call of Duty 4 did get a straight port onto the Wii eventually.

The only legitimate argument is incompatible graphical formats. It's true that the Wii's GPU used a pixel shader format (TEV) that was incompatible with anything modern. But that argument doesn't apply to the Wii U and its DX10 CPU. Nothing in DX11 is *that* essential. And don't forget, 360/PS3 got plenty of ports of PS4/Xbone games. The PS3 in particular had a GPU so antiquated that it didn't support unified shaders.

>> No.6517376

>>6517351
Nintendo didn't make the switch.

>> No.6517382

>>6517376
By that argument Nintendo didn't make any console since the SNES. SGI designed the N64, ArtX designed the GameCube, ATi designed the Wii (based on ArtX's work), and AMD designed the Wii U.

>> No.6517386

>>6517365
>Hell, they could have kept every single zombie in just by downgrading the graphics sufficiently, even into pre-rendered zombie sprites if they had to.
dude Dynasty warriors could do large waves of enemies at 60fps on a PS2 back in 2000, the wii was not that weak

>> No.6517391

>>6517386
Didn't mean they literally had to do pre-rendered sprites, it was just an example.

>> No.6517405

>>6517391
i don't recall if it was dynasty warriors as well, but there was a ps2 game where you're put up against something like 1,000 enemies, all rendered on screen at once
of course there is some tricks involved, the ps2 can't really handle full detail models with complex ai for all 1,000 of those enemies, but it's not like you need much out of literal zombies
you only actually have maybe 10 enemies closest to you actually directly engaging with you at a time, with the majority just kind of moving like a swarm, and yes, the distant ones are just billboards, though it's really not easy to tell in practice, it does looks impressive

>> No.6517410

>>6517239
>no games
EOP nintoddler cope

>> No.6517425

>>6517410
How can a nintoddler be eop if most of the good n6r games werent translated?
How does someone not knowing japanese even imply eop? Do you even know what eop means

>> No.6518396

>>6516332
>no mention of Rare besides DK
Cringe post

>> No.6518514

>>6510817
ocarina of time and mario 64 are pretty sucessful examples of putting games in 3d and making it play well
ff7 and mgs don't stick out in people's minds as much for that purpose

>> No.6518591

Are there n64 flashcarts with nes capability that arent $200?
This shits so expensive. I could just buy the 64 carts at that point. Its not like the 64 has a huge varied library.

>> No.6518601

>>6517382
Not true. At least N64, Gamecube, and Wii had a different hardware architecture from a PC. Switch is literally just an underclocked Nvidia Shield with a screen and bluetooth controllers with chinese build quality.

>> No.6518607

>>6518591
Why do you need nes capability?

>> No.6518610

>>6510817
For a lot of people in their late 20's/early 30's, the N64 was the main console of their childhood. I can understand why it's so loved. It's like how the SNES was for me.

>> No.6518623

>>6518610
Amiga > snes

>> No.6518632

>>6518623
lol

>> No.6518705

>>6517425
>posting while stoned
>posting while underage

>> No.6518714

>>6518607
To play nes games

>> No.6518725

>>6518632
>3.6 mhz
>128 KB RAM
>no keyboard and programming capability
>expensive game cartridges
>crappy sound chip
>can't copy games and share them with your friends
Yeah PC was always master race.

>> No.6518734

>>6518601
I get what you mean, with the Switch almost being an off-the-shelf product, but I don’t think Nintendo actually designed any of the internal hardware in the likes of the N64 and GameCube even though neither of those were off the shelf. Obviously they designed the cases and the controllers, etc, and would have set strict lists of technical requirements (the N64 *has* to use cartridges, and be sold at this particular price point, etc) but they weren’t made in-house otherwise.

Contrast that to the SNES where Nintendo did I think design the parts in-house though in cooperation with Ricoh.

>> No.6518735

>>6518725
The no programming capability and not being able to copy games and share them with your friends parts weren't exactly true. Piracy and demo scenes went hand in hand. They existed on 16 bit consoles. Copier hardware was expensive but if you wanted lots of games it paid for itself. You still needed a computer if you wanted to learn to code for your console but it was quite active with tools being made and shared.

>> No.6518737

>>6518725
It can't compete with the snes library and you know it, australia.

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>>6518623
>>6518725
based

>> No.6518763

>>6518759
See >>6494442

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>>6518735
Pirated cartridges usually missed the custom chips and sometimes even the battery saving capability. Its not worth it.

>>6518737
>can't play pic related
Snes is trash and you know it.

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>>6518763
cool cherrypicking ya cunt

>> No.6518772

>>6518771
>literally all multiplats better played elsewhere
Top lol.

>> No.6518775

Australia will die thinking about nintendo

>> No.6518779
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It was the first cucksole.

>> No.6518781

>>6518768
Pirated cartridges were only used by third worlders. I see them all the time here in the Philippines. Floppy disk based copiers are what I'm talking about. They were more common than you think. Since this is Asia I do come across them here sometimes. Roms could be obtained from BBSes and games were traded around the world with groups cracking games, most commonly to fix NTSC games to run on PAL machines.

>> No.6518785

>>6518779
You tried this before. You will never have a cute gf like that guy does, instead, you will continue venting your childhood traumas masqueraded as console wars.
Inb4 it's his sister. It's not, face reality. You failed.

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>>6518785
>implying I'm some other retard you're arguing with

>> No.6518804

>>6518779
Why is it always the n64? Also the snes. But always nintendo
I dont get it . what creates these people?

I like the n64 but people like this make me disassociate from any fanbase. I doubt this guy even played anything that wasnt first party
Shouldn't it be the ps1 since more people had it and it had more games?

>> No.6518816

>>6518781
Interesting, but could it write save games on the disks? I heard about that thing but yeah I doubt it could even be found outside the developing countries in asia. It worked sort of like famicom disk system. And I imagine games with custom chips still wouldn't work there.

>> No.6518819

>>6518804
Nintendo makes bright colored all ages games for children. Most people found them fun when they were young, but you would have to be a sheltered manchild to be obsessed by them as an adult.

>> No.6518821

>>6518816
They had internal memory for saves, the size of which is usually much larger than a regular SNES cartridge SRAM so it can fit multiple saves for different games. That's why the most common form of copy protection on SNES was an SRAM size check.

>> No.6518827

>>6510817

games good. bye.

>> No.6518830

>>6518816
People were importing them from Hong Kong and selling them all over Europe and North America. I think DSP was the only custom chip they ever supported, either through pass through or soldering one from a donor cart onto the board. Sometimes pass through support for other chips was claimed but I think it only ever worked if it was the same title making it useless. I think anybody that would have hundreds of dollars to spend on a copier probably wouldn't be too fussed about spending money to buy the big titles with expansion chips.

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>>6518804
The guy isn't even making a "soiface", he's just reacting surprised (if overacted), not posing for a selfie.
I can see that he resembles the classic basedboy face but stop thinking anyone who open their mouth is referencing the meme, you're going to be the autist yourself if you actually start thinking like that.
Also you're right, he probably isn't an "obsessed manchild" like >>6518819 says, and is more just some guy who mentioned his gf he always wanted a N64 as a kid, and she just went and bought him one. The guy will probably fuck around with it for a few weeks and then store it away. Just assumptions, but if he really was an actual obsessed manchild, he'd already own several N64 and a selection of the best games both US and JP.
But hey, he opens his mouth so it must be a good meme for anti-nintendo 64 shitposting, right?

>> No.6518867

>>6518821
So that means they usually failed SRAM checks? Must've had a bunch of compatibility issues then.

>>6518830
They were very expensive indeed I believe. There's also a N64 equivalent called Z64. It only had 30 MB or something RAM so it couldn't play the games made for high capacity cartridges. It was $300 too, more expensive than the console itself. It's not worth it.

>> No.6518874

>>6518867
It was worth it if you really loved playing lots of games. Whenever you find those devices on sale almost always it comes with a massive library of disks. Just imagine the kind of fun you could have with something like that back in 1993. We take it for granted these days because it's so easy to just load every game ever for a console onto one SD card and play it on a cheap flash cart. But there's a very good chance that those same roms you are playing now are the ones that were dumped to floppies and traded around the world via modem using stolen phone cards. That stuff is hopelessly obsolete now but the history behind it really fascinates me.

>> No.6518885

>>6518874
>Just imagine the kind of fun you could have with something like that back in 1993
Or you could just buy an Amiga 500 for a quarter of the price or even less and play countless hours of RPG and sim games.

>> No.6518889

>>6518885
based australia-kun spreging out about amiga on a sunday afternoon

>> No.6518894

>>6518885
Many of the people who owned those things and didn't live in Asia had an Amiga or one of it's competitors on hand too. How do you think they dialed into the BBSes to download games? One of the BBS ads I found in some file was hilarious, it bragged about being console only and said something to the effect of "what, you want to try to play games on your PC? Lame!"

>> No.6518904

>>6518894
Of course asian shemales who could barely read english preferred mindless bing bing wahoos.

>> No.6518959

I was an n64 kid and I remember getting straight up pissed at friends houses waiting for their playstations to load. I liked that about n64.

>> No.6518967

>>6518959
This. I was virtually the only person with an N64 growing up and I genuinely felt sorry for everyone who had a Playstation

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>>6518849
Not the anon your kidsplaining to but things exist before they become memes. That's literally a requirement for something to become a meme.

>> No.6519296

>>6510828
I never once as a kid had a single cart fail in the dozens that I owned/borrowed/rented
Sounds like you are a retard, protip you're not supposed to actually blow in them, it makes them worse

>> No.6519297

Back in 1997, the average PS1 players were men in their 20s-30s while N64 players were 8-14 year olds.
https://www.forbes.com/1997/09/19/feat.html#685750d7dd9a

The nintenyearold manchild meme is real.

>> No.6519310

>>6519297
>Back in 1997, the average PS1 players were men in their 20s-30s while N64 players were 8-14 year olds.
There's no source for this argument in the article though. It's literally conjecture by the author.

>> No.6519320

>>6518959
>>6518967
I had both growing up because my family wasn't poor.

>> No.6519358

>>6519320
My brother had the N64 and I had a Playstation. I also got myself a Saturn for $20 at Funcoland.

>> No.6519592

>>6519310
Seems like the author was basing their data on old articles published in the 90s. One of them made a headline as shown there: mario was more popular than mickey mouse among children.
Besides, the older demographic argument holds true for PS3.
https://www.wired.com/2009/07/playstation-home/

>> No.6519671

kek is this a troll?

"all the games people love on it had comparable stuff on the other systems in greater quantities"

sm64? oot? pretty much the top 2 of any proper goat game list??

Are you literally retarded they even introduced the fucking analog stick with the n64.

All the other consoles like the ps had to grab data from a cd which took ages, hence why only the n64 provided fast-loading realistic 3d worlds

>> No.6519708

>>6519671
SM64 is tomb raider for 8 year olds. OoT is Gothic for fujos. N64 analog was garbage. Nintendo 64 games were almost 3 times as expensive as PS1 games due to the cartridge, and unpirateable. N64 worlds were far from "realistic".

>> No.6519819

>>6510864
Holy zoom

>> No.6519939

>>6519297
>some unnamed faggot allegedly made a unique claim 20+ years ago so that must be fact.
lol. I guess you weren't alive in 97, let alone able to read, let alone reading newspapers/magazines but "tech" writers at non-tech magazines were notorious for knowing nothing about what they were writing about. The fact that that's the only source you can dig up to support your claim practically proves it wrong.

>> No.6519945

>>6519671
When you read a buzzfeed article about 90s gaming once: the post

>> No.6520052

>>6519708
Comparing SM64 to fucking Tomb Raider, lol!

>> No.6520064
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6520064

Genuine question: why is it always Sony fans in these threads?
Same with Saturn threads, there's always Sony fans shitting it up.
If they have so many games to play on their playstations, why aren't they playing them instead of obsessing about other systems that aren't playstation?

>> No.6520089

>>6518904
Better than the awful attempts at platforming and shitty ports of arcade games.

>> No.6520112

>>6520064
Not sure, are there flags I forgot to enable?

>> No.6520127

>>6519708
>N64 analog was garbage.
better than Dualshit's at least

>> No.6520130

>>6520064
Because they are not iconic like Sega and Nintendo.

>> No.6520134

>>6519945
i fucking lived that you mongrel. you're literally retarded and anyone that doesnt aknowledge the n64 as the best console of all time is a dumbass edgy ass zoomer and doesnt deserve basic human rights

>> No.6520140

>>6520127
N64 fags they can't ever heard of another peripherals other than what it comes with ever heard or seen a light gun?

>> No.6520142

>>6520140
Fair, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>> No.6520146

yall should rly watch a video called "the difference between the n64 and the ps1" and you'll start understanding why they are fundamentally different in the way games were made and have different hardware limitations, which is expressed in their games back then. the ps1 had access to more memory because of cds but couldnt acess it as fast. it led to games like ff VII and crash, where everything is divided by levels and layers. the n64 had less memory but could acess it with the blink of an eye, hence why constant flow games like sm64 and oot were possible, which were far ahead of anything in their time and basically defined that a proper 3d game is for decades to come. here I am in 2020 and mario is still swagging on these clunky ass videogame characters with shit controls

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>> No.6520148

>>6520140
How the fuck you gonna play a 3D game with a lightgun, retard

>> No.6520151

>>6520148
He moved the goalpost, anon.

>> No.6520152

noone's making a clickbait post based on the ps1, ever wonder why? this whole post is 4chan retards and accidental n64 praise combined

>> No.6520156

>>6520152
Or maybe because Nintendo and Sega fans aren't obsessed about the PS1.

>> No.6520161

>>6520156
or maybe cause the n64 aged well and they're still having fun with it, unlike how shitty ps1 games look today, with the exception of like crash, their one good game which aged

>> No.6520174

>>6520127
Not at all actually. N64 analog had reliability issues, terrible durability, and wasn't as good as the dual shock. There's a reason all modern consoles use the same potentiometer design as the dual shock analog, even gamecube controller.

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>>6520161
>the n64 aged well

>> No.6520190

>games aging

>> No.6520198

>>6520174
Saturn 3D circle pad came out before dualshock.
Also, while you're right about the reliability issues of the N64 stick, it still has more precision and less dead zones than the dualshock, which I think was what anon was referring to.

>> No.6520223

>>6520198
Technically it was more accurate than the dual shock thanks to its rotary encoder, commonly found in trackball. However it's more complicated and less sturdy than potentiometer. Im not familiar with the saturn analog, but i heard it uses some kind of magnet.

>> No.6520346

>>6520223
>technically i don't know what words mean

>> No.6520414

>>6520198
>it still has more precision
I think this is a meme. Dualshocks got better over time so you can't generalize as just one, the PSOne Dualshock is very different from the original Dualshock. The 64 development manual even instructs developers to target a range of looseness where certain points on the sticks potentiometer will be ignored, I think in the ranges of 65-78, I'd have to check the dev resources I have at home. 64 sticks don't seem particularly more precise. Maybe undamaged sticks are more resistant, early dual shocks are noticeably loose as well. Not to the point where the usable range of the stick isn't all there.

>> No.6520429

>>6520414
I'm basing it on having actually tried to play N64 games with dualshock, gamecbe and 360 controllers. None of them were as precise as using an actual N64 controller.

>> No.6520438

>>6520223
Saturn's hall effect sensors were better than either dualshock or n64.

>> No.6520447

>>6520429
They all need to be configured independently and the only converter that handles this normally is the raphnet one which only works with gamecube.

>> No.6520465

>>6520346
Not an argument.

>>6520429
N64 analog was shaped like a ball held in place by 4 rotary pins. Think of a mouse ball but with limited rotation. It's accurate but primitive and flimsy as a bitch. It's a terrible design. Tbf dual shock is pretty terrible too because it puts strain on the mechanism, but so does n64 analog, probably even worse. Controllers should've used IBM's nipple sticks instead of analog sticks, they dont become lose over time.

>> No.6520474

>>6520438
The problem with most analog sticks isn't the sensors, but the physical strain. Sticks usually become lose, sticky, or inaccurate over time.

>> No.6520629

>>6519708
Those games control like shit compared to sm64 and oot

>> No.6521182

>>6520465
>get btfo
>not an argument
pottery

>> No.6521850 [DELETED] 

reported and saged 3

>> No.6521947

>>6510817
You forgot to mention that the hardware design looks like cheap chinese toy grade shit

>> No.6521971

>nintendo became an authoritarian video game company
Say whatyou will about sony and sega. At least they didnt do the ique player>>6521947

>> No.6522374 [DELETED] 

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever

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>> No.6522397

>>6510817
The reality is that a lot of people who are in their early 20s had one of this pieces of shit when they were little, and as such have no clue how much better PC, PS1 and Saturn all were back then.

Also, calling any console "revolurionary" at any stage is pretty silly, because past 1990, PCs were always more capable, had more games, did more new things and had more available genres.

Also, N64 only "competed" at all because of a handful of first party games and having Rare at that time. Without Mario, Zelda and 007, N64 would have been a total flop and we ALL know it.

>> No.6522419

>>6522397
That's why Nintendo has made it through so many rough patches as a company. If Sega had a killer Sonic game and maybe some other good first party IP ready to go for the Saturn maybe this story would have turned out so much differently. Much fuss is made about the other things they fucked up but they're not the only company that ever released a flop console and Sony didn't need to be as stiff of competition as they were for them.

>> No.6522598

>>6520474
this, even a simple potentiometer is plenty precise, the important parts are how it feels to use and how long it lasts

>> No.6523501 [DELETED] 

bump

>> No.6523504

Why are Sonyggers ignoring this?
>>6520267

>> No.6523510

>>6522397
>Also, calling any console "revolurionary" at any stage is pretty silly, because past 1990, PCs were always more capable, had more games, did more new things and had more available genres.
A lot of people conveniently ignore this, you're right.

>> No.6523524

>>6523504
They didn't, it got a lot of replies in a short time, but the reality is that sonyggers would rather shitpost other consoles threads and not their own, since they don't really have much to discuss as they don't really play video games.

>> No.6523537

>>6522397
>>6523510
But those N64 games were what were copied.

>> No.6524439

>>6511276
Any of the ones people actually play

>> No.6524464

>>6510895
>pal version
Yuropoor detected. Everyone, point and laugh.

>> No.6524468

>>6510887
No. Do what you want, it's your own money and you don't have to ask these Reddit-tier questions for attention on 4chan.

>> No.6524476

>>6510817
I hate the N64 because it was the turning point when Nintendo became the Mario and Zelda show.
Konami defined the NES, Squaresoft defined the SNES, Capcom helped define both. Too bad they and many third-parties almost completely left at this point and they were never the same when they returned.

>> No.6524501

>>6522397
>>6523510
>Also, calling any console "revolurionary" at any stage is pretty silly, because past 1990, PCs were always more capable, had more games, did more new things and had more available genres.
More capable of having boring, obscure, western nerdshit dogshit shovelware with obnoxious control schemes that nobody gives a shit about anymore, which had a wealth of games only in genres which were too fucking boring for actual gamers playing on console. PC was never better during the /vr/ period.
God, I fucking hate how both stupid and arrogant /vr/ pc vegans are. Your platform wasn't decent for literally another 20 years.

>> No.6524661
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6524661

anyone ever play this? Im finding it insanely slow

>> No.6524697

>>6510817
What's the phrase, "something over quantity?" Ah, it's a 'q' word, on the tip of my tongue...

>> No.6524701

>>6524697
Qwality?

>> No.6525056

>>6524697
quinoa

>> No.6525058

>>6524697
quantisation

>> No.6525064

>>6524697
Quirky

>> No.6525542

>>6524501
seethe

>> No.6526640

>>6524697
nintendo?

>> No.6526667

>>6510835
Hating a videogame console

>> No.6527050

>>6526667
a 20 year old one

>> No.6527256

>>6510817
>>all the games people love on it had comparable stuff on the other systems in greater quantities
That's where you're wrong friend. N64 was the four player party machine, no other system delivers on that front like the N64 did except maybe the Wii.
In the end the 64 did well and is remembered because it had good games, so did the PSX and so did the Saturn. Nobody cares about the Jaguar and other crap of that gen as anything but curiosities, because they had no good games (inb4 some piece of shit mentions one (1) good jaguar game and acts like he's debunked my entire post)

>> No.6527323

>>6527256
The original Rayman was on Jaguar.
WHIIIIIRRRR-
SHLPLPLPLPLP
*brap
*walks away

>> No.6527328

>>6527256
i hear the jaguar version of doom is one of the best ports

>> No.6527336

>>6527328
Jaguar Doom doesn't even have music. Even 32X Doom has music (it sounds like shit the first time but you get used to it and it kinda sets its own mood)
Anyways, PSX has a much better port of Jaguar Doom.

>> No.6528209

Zoomers wearing the N64 shirt are so cringe (눈눈)

>> No.6528242

>>6510835
nice warped textures bro
that massive zigzag really sells me on the wall having a straight line

>> No.6529343

>>6515810
i think im happy not playing with garbage

>> No.6529351

>>6510817
Sony consoles sell well because of poor people/third worlders.
N64 is the white man's console, which is why it's so well remembered and celebrated even today.

>> No.6529361

Honestly while the N64 does suck, especially in hindsight, I respect Nintendo for doing what they needed to do to stay alive. The reason why they're still alive and still making hardware and SEGA isn't is because they understood their limits and what they were up against when it came to Sony. Plus, they only needed one failed system (2 if you count VB i guess) to get the point and get their shit together. Like, why try to compete in the same lane as a behemoth company that at the time was the unquestioned leader in multiple electronics manufacturing categories? Nintendo made their own lane and aggressively went after the family demographic because its the only category in which the N64 was the leader and where they were gonna be able to sustain their success long term and guess what, the shit worked, and SEGA got btfo and is now a weekend-at-bernies level animated husk (despite being the much cooler company that advanced video games much further than nintendo did)

>> No.6529362

>>6510817
>>tiny library, and even smaller subset of that made it to the west
stopped reading there
nobody cares how many thousands of ps1 games there were, the average kid owned like 10 games by the end of the generation and even in the era of emulation you've probably barely played any of them. shut off your computer and go do something else, tard

>> No.6529365

>>6529362
i own a play a lot more psx games than n64 games
the n64 has like, 5 really good games, while the psx has more like 20-30
you're right that it doesn't matter that the psx has 3,000 more games, but it does matter that it has more good games

>> No.6529370

>>6529362
>nobody cares how many thousands of ps1 games there were
Lots of people do actually.
>the average kid owned like 10 games
blah blah blah, we also rented games every week back in the 90s. We aren't in the 90s any more. We're in the 20s. Isn't that something? Turns out the one where there's no games and we played all the good ones already doesn't have much long term value or appeal.
>shut off your computer and go do something else
So defensive, we just want to talk about video games. Critique only bothers you when it's about Nintendo, doesn't it?

>> No.6529406

>>6529365
name them? i think you're being a bit unfair to the n64. i could easily claim the same about the saturn because ive never touched a saturn

>> No.6529442

>>6510817
There's nothing on PSX comparable to OOT, Perfect Dark or Jet Force Gemini, Rogue Squadron. Just like the N64 has no answer to Valkyrie Profile or SoTN. Consoles have different strengths.

>> No.6529701

I bought this and couldn't even afford a game for it for another 6 months. I would just look at the box and the console and hold the controller, and I was happy. Then I got OoT for christmas

>> No.6529756

>>6510864
Lmfao is this idiot serious? Look at him. Look at him and laugh.

>> No.6529760

>>6513128
>missing the joke

>> No.6529772

>>6524661
Zoom zoom