/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6485231]

>you will never be able to tell repros vs authentic ever again without opening them
based or cringe?

[Anonymous No.6485260]

>>6485231
Repros are based.

[Anonymous No.6485316]

if they are functionally identical, does it matter (besides out-of-spec electronics)?
if companies won't make new runs, but people can produce them themselves, what's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.6485319]

>>6485231
It didn't matter to me back then and it doesn't now either

[Anonymous No.6485331]

>>6485316
some people see /vr/ as /biz/ and those physical games are just valuable plastic for them.

[Anonymous No.6485342]

>>6485316
It should matter on the price. Especially with all the retarded high prices some people ask. Selling a counterfeit as the original will always be a scam unless you know exactly what you're buying.

[Anonymous No.6485356]

>>6485316
people charging $100+ for a rare ""authentic"" game that's actually a $5 repro

[Anonymous No.6485359]

>>6485342
>>6485331
repros would break price gouging. people shouldn't advertise repros as originals, but with today's maker tools, making carts could be a cottage industry. to be fair, making carts on a small scale would probably entail a price that's similar to original games, but there would be little margin

[Anonymous No.6485360]

>>6485359
You can get repro of nearly any snes game on Ali for around $20 shipped. What you get sent is a cheaply made flash cart with the rom on a gb SD card. They don’t even have to destroy carts anymore

[Anonymous No.6485369]

>>6485356
Well, only buy with buyer protection. If its a fake and you can prove it you should be able to easily get 100% of your money back.

[Anonymous No.6485370]

>>6485316
Filling a collection with inauthentic bootlegs is fucking stupid and something that could only ever happen with videogames.

If repro carts were just reproductions meant to make getting a working copy of the game more easily and cheaper while also CLEARLY being reproductions (as is the case when reproductions come up in pretty much any other hobby), that would be perfectly fine, but trying to pass them off as the real deal is scummy on the sellers part and stupid on the collectors part when it happens with videogames.

[Anonymous No.6485381]

>>6485370
>something that could only ever happen with videogames
See: record collecting
What are repressings?

[Anonymous No.6485384]

>>6485381
>What are repressings?
Repros usually sanctioned by the artist or rights holder and not sold at stupid high scalper prices, retard.

[Anonymous No.6485430]

>>6485384
i think you are just making things up to justify your irrational feelings

[Anonymous No.6485579]

>>6485231
You couldn't tell a well done repro from an original even if you did open it. That's based in that the repro is so good and at the same time cringe because if your ignorance and lack of skills and tools.
I can tell the difference without opening it but that's irrelevant because I don't give a fuck and own everything I could ever want and more. That's based on so many levels.

[Anonymous No.6485606]

>>6485231
If you're a collector, then repros are bad because they symbolize a damaged reputation or authenticity. And besides, no one wants to collect replicas when you can collect the real deal.

If you are a player, then repros may be a problem, purely because they will not always be high-quality, and may be prone to problems that real carts are not. That's dependent on who made your cart though, and unfortunately it may not come to light for years to come.

Overall, I am of the opinion that both originals and replicas are a waste compared to getting a multi-game flash cart that makes all of the carts obsolete. Video games are just data, stored on what was a functional medium for the time and circumstance in which they were needed. The cartridge isn't really the game, it's just the medium by which it was distributed (occasionally it also packed hardware; That is a point I will address separately).

There is value to opening a real box and reading a real manual, but we are to the point that many things no longer need to be the real article to give you the intended experience. We can reproduce manuals digitally and host them online. We can do the same with the games. Our cheap hard disks can hold all the games you could ever play, and even if you wanted 100% of games, it would at this point take only a few extra large drives, and that's because of how large games got once we went to CDs/DVDs/bluray.

I understand the emotional connection, but they're just data containers. They aren't the real games. It's functionally equivalent to a read-only USB stick.

[Anonymous No.6485610]

>>6485579
why would you just go on the internet and lie?

[Anonymous No.6485615]

>>6485381
>doesn't know what a bootleg is
>>6485430
moron

[Anonymous No.6485619]

>>6485606
If your cart had special hardware inside to make it work, then I consider that a separate point. You would need to make that hardware run in the system to make the game work. For that reason, I see those as not matching up to this, simply because repros likely won't match that facet correctly. They are a special case, however, and generally I argue that if a game has non-unique hardware, then there's no reason to obsess over the medium. Functional equivalency is the goal; If you have that, then why bother worrying about what the casing looks like?

[Anonymous No.6485635]

>>6485260
If you can't tell and the game behaves exactly the same, why does it matter? After all it is just an electronic device and plastic.

[Anonymous No.6485643]

>>6485342
>>6485356
>>6485370
Collectors are a plague and should be executed on sight, this is a good thing, fuck you for being obsessed over a fucking piece of plastic with an electronic board, you are the reason prices go up to retarded heights.
So I'm glad this repros are out, the more of you collector fags get scammed, the better.

[Anonymous No.6485648]

>>6485635
ur mums an electronic device and plastic, anon

[Anonymous No.6485650]

>>6485643
>mfw this anon would be a collector if he wasn't profoundly poor

[Julius Caesar did nothing wron(...) No.6485652]

>>6485643
>he thinks collectors are the reason prices go up
Thank God I'm not this stupid. I can see quarantine is treating this guy REALLY well.

[Anonymous No.6485658]

>>6485643
Haha fuck collectors amirite poorfags?? Let's make the chinese rich instead buying something that is REALLY worthless.

[Anonymous No.6485659]

>>6485643
Poorfags tears are the absolute b e s t. It must kill you inside to see people enjoying themselves and buying expensive things with their money.

[Anonymous No.6485665]

>>6485650
>>6485659
No matter what pic you post, you are still wasting money and time in plastic with a sticker sold to you at a premium price by a big corporation laughing at you, you are just as bad as the idiots throwing money on the mini consoles they are selling today just because they are "official", retards by all definition.
I'd rather waste that money on better things.
How sad do you have to be inside your mind, to feel joy over exclusivity over a random piece of plastic? Hahaha omfg.
>>6485658
Both are equally worthless retard, the only thing valuable is the game inside the cartridge. So the only thing I care about is enjoying the game properly as it was intended, if I can do that without spending stupidly, it makes me smarter and you an idiot unless you are insanely rich, which most of you are not, you have to work to get it.
If with an original console and a bootleg I get the same result, the joke is on you, collector faggots.

[Anonymous No.6485671]

>>6485665
>no matter what pic you post
I don't collect video games, it's just obvious where your motivations lie. But, can you answer one question for me? Just how wretchedly poor are you anon, do you wear one of those barrels with straps?

[Anonymous No.6485673]

>>6485671
>Just how wretchedly poor are you anon, do you wear one of those barrels with straps?
I don't know where you think ad hominems will get you anon.

[Anonymous No.6485679]

>>6485673
>I don't know where you think ad hominems will get you anon
right under your skin

[Anonymous No.6485686]

>>6485679
I see, well at least you admitted it.

[Anonymous No.6485693]

>>6485665

[Anonymous No.6485697]

>>6485686
I didn't have to admit anything, I've always been very direct about ridiculing your poverty.

[Anonymous No.6485707]

I always bundle repros with authentic shovel ware when I sell on Craigslist or offer up, collectors snatch it up so quick and think they got a score from a guy who doesn’t know any better.

[Anonymous No.6485712]

>>6485707
That 100% happened.

[Anonymous No.6485721]

>>6485697
I'm sorry you are butthurt I can enjoy just as much to use an Everdrive and your whole existence goes around collecting plastic, that isn't my fault.

I'm 27 and I own my own house I bought, whether you believe it or not, I care very little, I'd rather have that than being a manchild in my mom's basement with a collection of "muh original videogames", as plenty of collectors are.

[Anonymous No.6485734]

>>6485721
I'm not butthurt, I just don't suffer the poor. Why is it so important to you that I'm upset? Could it be that you're the one who's upset?

[Anonymous No.6485735]

>>6485231
Based. I want this market to collapse.

[Anonymous No.6485749]

>>6485635
Most repros are made by random companies in China and have zero (0) quality control. It's not uncommon for the carts to destroy your save data for no reason, if they were even able to save in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6485754]

>>6485231
Based, if you missed the window for collecting this shit then tough luck

[Anonymous No.6485769]

>>6485231

Good, the market should collapse and scalpers should lose their position. Maybe that'll get people to start caring about preserving games instead of hoarding 20-year old plastic cartridges.

[Anonymous No.6485771]

are there any romhack repros worth getting?

[Anonymous No.6485789]

>>6485231
who gives a shit are you buying games so you can play them or so you can masturbate to the idea of owning something 20 years old seriously how fucking retarded are you guys

[Anonymous No.6485790]

>>6485231
>you will never be able to tell repros vs authentic ever again without opening them
Yes I will. The printing and the plastics are never the same as original

[Anonymous No.6485793]

You can usually tell a repro from an authentic release through 3 factors; how the label was cut, how the label was placed, and whether the Nintendo seal is shiny, this last point is hard to tell from pictures.

>>6485231
This looks counterfeit from the label, though the yellow player's choice seal gives it away.

>>6485260
This on the other hand looks legitimate.

[Anonymous No.6485805]

>>6485793
>This on the other hand looks legitimate.
The cartridge looks brand new and the printing on the label is way too dark.

[Anonymous No.6485979]

>>6485665
The games I bought are now worth 3 to 4 times what I originally paid for them. Meanwhile your chink garbage which you bought for $20 isn't even worth a dollar. Who is the stupid one here, really? Keep coping you third-world nigger.

[Anonymous No.6486019]

>>6485671
>>6485693

Y'all rely way too much on strawman arguments.

>>6485979

I won't lie that I benefited from the logic of "my games increased in value" however. Once I saw how much people were paying for legit N64 carts, it was a trivial matter to sell mine off and get a flashcart. I went from owning 30-ish games to owning all N64 games and cleared out some shelves in the process. It's a pretty silly game to buy games purely as investments though. Maybe when they're on discount down the road (like right now you could hoard PS3 games) but making that a big reason why you'd buy games is strange argument given you'd be buying them not for entertainment but for investment. If you can get both then hell, congrats, but frankly this argument is basing itself a bit much on how much money you can get down the road from them.

[Anonymous No.6486045]

>>6485665
>Both are equally worthless retard
Ebay tends to disagree

[Anonymous No.6486105]

>>6485665
this guys would be piss mad for people doing this lol mah autentic damage sticker!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWoVOu1BXbY

[Anonymous No.6486125]

>>6486105
If this third-world spic wants to deface his own game that's his business. I would only have a problem if he tried to sell it as legit, because then it's a scam.

[Anonymous No.6486337]

>>6485771
they're called flashcarts.

[Anonymous No.6486350]

are there "repros"/fakes of disc-based systems without copy-protection, like dreamcast, pce cd(?), megacd(?) etc?

[Anonymous No.6486357]

Repros are based

[Anonymous No.6486359]

>>6486350
yes, there are even bootlegs of games from consoles with copy protection like the saturn that i've seen before.

[Anonymous No.6486374]

>>6485793
The label is so oversaturated it literally looks photoshopped on, anon

[Anonymous No.6486375]

>have a huge collection of systems and games I've amassed from late 80s to early 2000s
Have fun, bros. I'll be having fun, myself.

[Anonymous No.6486430]

>>6485652
They aren't the first reason, but it's often the fact that people are willing to pay the prices that sellers put them up for, therefore maintaning / rising the price

[Anonymous No.6486524]

>>6485610
Why would you go on the internet and underagepost?

[Anonymous No.6486549]

>>6485615
you do use the original batteries in all your carts, rights anon? i mean, they aren't "authentic" otherwise. I mean, the "experience" is totally different

[Anonymous No.6487042]

>tfw have a comfy Clock Tower (EN) and Metal Max (EN) repro with custom case

labels are ugly but I love to play it on original hardware

[Anonymous No.6487119]

>>6485360
They haven't had to destroy carts for a while, they've got molds now.

[Anonymous No.6487194]

>>6485665
lol see first idiot comes in!
>>6486125
How is a scam? the game is original he remove the torn label and make a new one
mah autentic torn label lol this guys!
btw cry more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJChsouvTI

[Anonymous No.6487227]

>>6485615
What the fuck is the difference between a bootleg and a reproduction, exactly?

Besides that, a bootleg is a repress.

[Anonymous No.6487328]

>>6485643
based

[Anonymous No.6487401]

>>6486359
I've only seen repros that are basically cdr's. I want to see ps1 repros badly and would be identical to the real thing. I can imagine it only requires slight tweaking to a pressing process to recreate those black discs.

[Anonymous No.6487445]

>>6487119
hell, you can order your own custom injection molded and vacuum formed parts these days

[Anonymous No.6487472]

Uh-oh, the FRAM doesn't work anymore because I saved too much! But if I replace it, then I can never enjoy the Original Authentic Experience(TM) ever again on my console! Alas!

[Anonymous No.6487510]

>>6485549
>>6487472
false equivalence
replacing a degradable part on an authentic cartridge is not the same as buying a repro cartridge that was slapped together with shitty PCBs, shitty soldering and shitty chips.

[Anonymous No.6487517]

>>6487510
>GTFO
The chips are more money than the company spent on theirs and most repros use donor pcbs and shells.
>Same code, same pcb, same shell, different label and chip.

[Anonymous No.6487528]

>>6487517
>if something is done stupidly and inefficiently it's good and of value
Imagine being this full of cope

[Anonymous No.6487921]

>>6487528
>Doesn't use original it's shit. Uses original it's shit.
Make up your mind!

[Anonymous No.6487984]

>>6487921
>being so new you don;t know how anonymous boards work
>coping about cope

[Anonymous No.6488023]

What does /vr/ think about repro boxes/manuals? Is it best to spend a bunch of money on an authentic but beat up box/manual, or to spend a lower price on ones of brand new quality?

[Anonymous No.6488216]

>>6488023
Judging by how these jerks are, anything after market is total garbage.

[Anonymous No.6488331]

>>6488023
It's best to get fools to spend full price on forgeries

[Anonymous No.6488338]

>>6485231

I can tell them apart easily. If they're in the plastic bin in my closet then they're authentic. If they're somewhere else then they might be fake.

(Either way, if they function correctly, look decent, and last a long time, then they're good enough.)

[Anonymous No.6488349]

>>6485231
If the repros are significantly cheaper than OG games based.

[Anonymous No.6488421]

ITT: collectors get their feeling hurt. keks ensue.

[Anonymous No.6488708]

Imagine not getting an ODE or flash cart and unironically having a soi room full of useless boxes and shovelware lining your walls.

[Anonymous No.6489068]

>>6485635
>>6485316
Imagine buying a Ferrari, except its a fake ferrari that someone sold you for full price. Then you look under the hood and its a really shitty motor, and while you can go the same speed as the real motor, its also bound to break down at any minute.

If he sold it to you and told you its fake, while charging a low price, then sure. but if its said to be authentic and is going for market value, then youd be pissed.

Also if you care about selling it in the future, then it wont be worth as much, but most people dont care about selling their collection

[Anonymous No.6489096]

>>6489068
>shitty motor
>can still somehow go as fast as an Italian supercar
Your analogy is bad and you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.6489215]

PLASTIC AND FR4 FROM 1986 IS SPECIAL, DAMN YOU!!

[Anonymous No.6489353]

>>6485648
Wot if your mum took batteries?

[Anonymous No.6489371]

>>6487401
Memorex used to make them. Only problem is they were memorex.

[Anonymous No.6489394]

>>6489096
its hypothetical, take your meds

[Anonymous No.6489448]

>>6485316
The snes repros are not in spec but they worked fine for me but they are inferior and could damage a console.

>>6485231
If they can make them cheap I see no problem making them identical looking to originals as long as the voltages are correct. They are ment to be played, not for hoarders to try and rip people off. But just consider that n64 should use the correct voltage on the chips but with older consoles the bootlegs use mismatched voltages on the flash roms which puts a bit of extra stress on the chips in the console. Also with flash roms it is possible that it could become corrupted over time compared to mask roms with with have the circuits embedded into the chip.

I did buy a couple of snes repros and was going to give one as a gift but after finding out it could possibly cause damage I couldn't do that. They still played fine on my personal console but it causes damage thats on me.

I have also made replica boxes for snes and that come out just about identical the originals, some people think you should put some kind of sybol or something on the package, stuff that.
I used to get my pictures for the boxes mostly on ebay, if you use pictures people have for box making and try to sell them, then that is scummy.

[Anonymous No.6489662]

>>6489448
>they are inferior and could damage a console.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.6489708]

>>6488421
>ITT: i project and cope
kek

[Anonymous No.6489925]

>>6489448
Thank god i have this saved for every time someone comes with this!
the guy already told is almost impossible to happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prCn4qwI3MY [Embed]

also the guy is not and engineer he is a armchair engineers in the recent interview with retrorgb he clearly says that he didnt study anything!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv4TeyLcSSw&t=264s [Embed]

[Anonymous No.6489940]

I truly could not care as long as the game runs.

[Anonymous No.6489948]

>>6489448
Welcome to /vr/ kiddo and happy 18th birthday because you are 18, right?

[Anonymous No.6490009]

>>6489662
>>6489925
>>6489948

Hey so they won't destroy a console, I didn't know that. I just brought final fantasy repro and then a month later this article comes and I was worried I would ruin my friends console if I gave it to them. I've been using flash carts since the early 2000s and I've only had 1 snes stop working and that was probably because from something else. I haven't use an original nes game since I got the nes powerpak when that came out as well as others at the time. I was even going to make a replica box and make it look all nice.

[Anonymous No.6490314]

>>6489925
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[Anonymous No.6490318]

>>6490314
dude literally has a text file on his computer where he saved a post

[Anonymous No.6490334]

>>6485643
How can you be this mad about something that you can get for free being expensive. I can’t accept the original hardware/experience meme when emulation is perfectly good enough.

[Anonymous No.6490875]

>>6490009
>ohaiguis i'm young dumb and full of this
18+ lurk moar back to le tiktok
You're dishonoring your entire family by shitposting here underage

[Anonymous No.6490882]

>>6485665
Imagine getting this upset over plastic

[Anonymous No.6490901]

>>6485231
http://m64py.sourceforge.net/ take the mupen64pluspill

[Anonymous No.6490950]

The biggest thing you have to worry about are the repros lack of beveled edges on the pcb tearing up the cartridge slot pins. Also their poor contact finishes wearing away.

[Anonymous No.6491019]

>>6486549
>The Cart of Theseus

[Anonymous No.6491152]

>>6485231
Based

I just want to play some games

[Anonymous No.6491738]

>>6485231
Good because it brings down the price and fucks with jewish speculators.

[Anonymous No.6492337]

>>6485643
Not a student of economics are you?

[Anonymous No.6492490]

>>6485643

[Anonymous No.6492495]

>>6485260
>>6485793
>This on the other hand looks legitimate.

Fake as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6492524]

>>6492337
I duno mang. Theres this chick from NY who studied economics and spews the same sort of stupid crazy anon does. There's also this dude who got a nobel prize in economics, spews the same shit and has literally never been right about anything ever. Based on those examples I'd say a student of economics is exactly what anon is.