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So I dug out all of my own consoles and found all of my old PSX games, but the only thing I have to play them on is my old PS2. I've heard a lot of negative feedback about playing PS1 games on a PS2 so should I buy a new PS1 to get the best possible experience or is the PS2 good enough?

>> No.6477920

>>6477907
I never had any issues but if you have a first gen PS3 even better

>> No.6477923

It's fine.
Later PS2 Slim models have worse compatibility with some games due to altered hardware.

>> No.6477960

>>6477907
If you have a fat PS2 from 3XXXX to 5XXXX series and you play from CDs (not from USB/HDD/SMB) you are good to go. There are only about 20 games which glitch or don't work with this setup, neither of which is a major hit or hidden gem.

>> No.6477967

>>6477960
okay, was mostly going to be playing jrpgs on it, bof3/4, ff9, the chrono trigger port i have

>> No.6477978

>>6477967
Early PS2 models had problems with one of FF compilations (4 or 5, don't remember), the graphics would corrupt on save screen. Original PSX jrpgs don't have issues on late fat models.

>> No.6477982

>>6477978
thanks anon, but the CT port i have is the one paired with 4, guess i'll find out lol

>> No.6478000

>>6477982
should be fine. i think the other anon is referring to final fantasy V on ps1. ff4 and ct should be fine. you can also increase the disc speed for ps1 games, making the loading a bit more bearable.

>> No.6478002

>>6477907
The only drastic issue I ever ran across was my PS2 fat not reading certain discs, even though they're in perfect condition. Everything else is a whiny nitpick.

>> No.6478035

The one serious issue I did encounter on PS2 is that Metal Gear Solid could freeze at the end of credits before epilogue phone call. It can be fixed bizarrely by inserting a second controller.

>> No.6478363

>>6478002
load the disc up normally on your fat ps2, then play with your ps2 system upside down (same with some ps1 units) and it might work.

>> No.6479034

>>6478002
dont do this >>6478363
it creates mustard gas

>> No.6479109

>>6478002
Get a new laser in there. They are fairly cheap and easy to replace.

>> No.6479145

PS1 games run identically on PS2. Its not emulation, its real, physical hardware. If you run PS1 games on PS3 its emulation, and its an emulator from over a decade ago. I'd recommend just using a PC emulator if you want to go that route.

>>6478002
This is the same for me. I have completely scratched to shit copies of Shikigami II and Ridge Racer V that only play (and play well) on my fat.

>> No.6479147

>>6479145
It has real hardware, but when it comes to certain games, there are still a few issues that didn't exist on the original PlayStation. It's not a very large amount of them, though.

>> No.6479150

>>6477907
>found all of my old PSX games
>PSX

No.

>> No.6479171

>>6479150
Yes forever and always.

>> No.6479173
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6479173

>>6479150
Why are people so autistic about this?
Sure, it wasn't an official term, but people did use PSX all the time.

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6479520

>>6479173
PSX is an official term though. Problem is, PSX isn't a PS1. It's a PS2 integrated into a video recorder. This was actually the first instance of the Playstation console UI you would see used in the PSP, PS3, Vita, and PS4 but that's besides the point. PSX simply is not PS1, it's a different product that can play PS1 games.

>> No.6479524

>>6479520
Someone needs to make this into a "Did you know...?" gaming and breed the cancer even stronger.

>> No.6479528

>>6479171
Everyone just called it a playstation back then. Then when the ps2 came out, everyone called it the ps1.

>> No.6479534

>>6479520
Everyone knows that, the point is that before THAT psx existed, magazines and such in the 90s referred to the ps1 as the psx. I think it's retarded personally but who gives a shit

>> No.6479551

>>6479173
Nobody gets tired of opening the same can of worms on this site.

>>6479528
The compact PS1 version is actually called a "PSOne".

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>> No.6481424

>>6479568
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.6481472

>>6479173
no, nobody use, just people online to stir up replies and reactions.

>> No.6481758

>>6479147
The issue stems from the fact that the PS2's emotion engine (the GPU) is generating the graphics, ostensibly through emulation of the PS1 GPU. Only the CPU from the PS1 exists in the PS2. this results in a small number of games exhibiting minor graphical glitches, such as symphony of the night.

>> No.6481769

>>6477907
Most PS2 play basically all PS1 games. Only a few games nobody gives any shits about are non compatible. PS2 is fine for Playing PS1 don’t listen to the delusional who say otherwise.

>> No.6481780

>>6479173
I’ve never heard anyone ever call it that before back in the day, everyone called it “the PlayStation” or just “PlayStation” until PS2 came out then it’s was referred to as “PS1”

is psx a European thing?

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6481784

>>6479568
I don’t see an X anywhere.

>> No.6481789

>>6481780
>is psx a European thing?
It's a text thing. Nobody has ever said it out loud. If you do it appears behind you in the mirror, with a blood soaked dualshock and it leans forward, its lid trembling. ta-ta-ta-ta. ta-ta-ta-ta-ta. The laser pick up whirrs and slides down the rail "vrrrrt-" As the lights flicker on, it lets out a noise. The grey monster beckons to you It's PS1 you fuck. Then it disappears.

Or so they say, that's the legend after all.

>> No.6481814

>>6481789
https://www.strawpoll.me/19357418

>> No.6481835

>>6481758
>Only the CPU from the PS1 exists in the PS2.
the very last ps2's omit this as well, i believe

>> No.6481839

>>6481835
They emulate it with an ASIC. That said the compatibility gets worse to the point that some PS2 games which use it as a co-processor get issues.

>> No.6481840

>>6481784
it's the codename for the system, it was used absolutely everywhere except official marketing materials (post-release)
it was the working name before release, it's seen literally everywhere in development tools and many game sources, and even past release it was used by damn near everyone as an abbreviation for the system
note that while it's use was commonly written, it was not common to say it out loud ("playstation" was more common)
"PS" and "PS1" serve the same purpose, but are less common, and seem to be made up out of confusion over why PSX has an X in it (it stood for experimental)

>> No.6481846

>>6481840
>but are less common
The opposite has been true for over 10 years now. PS1 is much more commonly used over PSX, and PSX in time will fall to the wayside as a bit of trivia and a janky DVR in a few decades time.

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6481849

>>6477907
PS3 is a better choice for PS1 games

>> No.6481905

>>6481849
i sure do love re2 randomly freezing and re3 randomly hanging for 10 seconds when picking up an item!

>> No.6481926

>>6481905
disk or psn?
none of those are documented issues

>> No.6481950

>>6481849
>>6481905
>>6481926
*cooks you all to death*
That'll be $400, lads.

>> No.6481962

>>6481814
Mine did not win. :(

>> No.6481978

>>6481950
get a cfw slim

>> No.6482582

>>6481758
>small number of games
m8, check the Japanese compatibility-page, not the one from Sony USA which lacks plenty of games with issues (e.g. star wars phantom menace)
https://www.jp.playstation.com/info/notice/nt_20051020_scph75000.html
of course they just tested Japanese games, but you can be sure there are just as many problematic us- and yuro-games.

>> No.6483350

>>6482582
thanks for the heads up/info anon, didn't realize it was that many

>> No.6483378

>>6481849
If you're a fat JRPG player who can't feel lag

>> No.6484291

why is popstarter so hot or miss for ps1 games on ps2?
it's there a better way to play ps1 games on ps2 without the disc?

>> No.6484304

>>6477920
PS3 slim can play original PS games quite well.

>> No.6484318

>>6482582
Seems like that list is about the Slim versions, besides the first revision of the Slim.

>> No.6484330

>>6477907
Do you not have a PC with CD drive?

>> No.6484362

>>6484304
If you love lag

>> No.6485036

stop being poor, get a proper ps1, no big deal.
if you're in the US you might even get one for free during the looting

>> No.6485225

>>6484362
The slim and super slim aren't any different from fats for PS1

>> No.6485243

>>6484362
There’s lag inherent to all emulation but it’s fairly low compared to other solutions.

>> No.6485528
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6485528

why yes i do use a PSIO with RGB for ps1 games
how could you tell?

>> No.6485554

Had no idea my ps3 slim could play ps1 games, thanks guys

>> No.6485672

how to play ps1 games on ps2

>> No.6485706

You're honestly fine unless you're playing on late slims that use full emulation for ps1 playback, but even then you won't have any issues enjoying them

>> No.6487435

>>6485672
step 1: put a playstation format disc into the disc tray or spindle
step 2: turn on the playstation 2
step 3: ????
step 4: profit

>> No.6487447

>>6481780
Magazines in Europe often had "PSX" on the top of the cover where the list of systems covered was. I also read it often in articles.
PS-X was the codename of the PlayStation, that's where it comes from.

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6487453

>>6481849
*Blocks your path*

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6487454

>>6479150
>>6479568
>>6481784

>> No.6487462

>>6487453
the fox interactive jingle is now playing in your head

>> No.6487498

Who determined what the "good" models/revisions were?

>> No.6487795

>>6487498
i did

>> No.6487850

>>6487498
sony

>> No.6487939

>>6479528
PSX was very common in the UK and on the net, I remember asking jeeves for psx cheats

>> No.6488036

>>6487939
what the fuck does jeeves know? he’s a fuckin asshole

>> No.6488039

>>6477982
>>6477978
It's the one with final fantasy 5 and the menu text just disappears sometimes it's still very playable just not perfect.

>> No.6488041

>>6487454
based

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6489635

>>6487454
Holy fuck, where has this image been all my /vr/ life?

>> No.6491050

>>6487454
Lol gottem

Yeah idk my PS3 plays ps1 and ps2 pretty good, but you need the right model

>> No.6491519

>>6487454
nice shop