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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6464837

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.6472302

=== NEWS ===

[5-26] Pandemonia 2.0 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GKjW1ZGQkViW3MOBDxnyK3Sk41ynpv6S/view

[5-25] The Force Engine was updated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2133742
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

[5-24] Smooth Blood released, its like Smooth Doom but for Blood
https://www.moddb.com/mods/smoothblood

[5-23] Punishment, an episodic replacement for the first Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114613-punishment-an-episode-1-replacement-for-doom/

[5-23] Anon shares some Sandy Peterson videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwV3uwM19EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlSb1esFt0A

[5-22] La Tailor Girl updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=405#p1152235

[5-22] Dark Forces DeHacker updated to v1.3
http://df-21.net/

[5-22] Realm667 repository submissions are on hiatus
https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/17-site-news/2259-repository-submissions-on-hiatus

[5-22] BuildGDX now runs Shadow Warrior as WangGDX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAUGs_3JJA

[5-20] Force Engine introduced, a Jedi Engine replacement for Dark Forces and Outlaws
https://theforceengine.github.io/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114497-the-force-engine-jedi-engine-portreplacement/

[5-20] Doom 64 Morph Sound release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114534-morph-sound-64-enhancement-for-doom-64-ex-retribution-gec-master-edition-and-nightdives-re-release/

[5-20] Universal Gameplay Tweaker released
https://github.com/jekyllgrim/Universal-Gameplay-Tweaker/releases/tag/1.0

[5-19] Sergeirocks100 is hosting a mapping contest for Satanic Infestation
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113234-satanic-infestation-100-open-and-public-domain-iwad-project-current-version-v004-mapping-contest-being-held/?page=14&tab=comments#comment-2131841

=== PREVIOUS ===

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>> No.6472364

>>6472243
Irrelevant, Doom and Doom 2 were advertised to be playable on a 386 computer, and thus the levels had to not bring those computers a complete crawl, which is why maps like Downtown look like they do.

>> No.6472375

>>6472364
386's with MathCo processors anon.

>> No.6472396

>>6472375
What?

>> No.6472406

>>6472396
Back before pentiums were a thing, you had MathCo processors as an addon for the CPU.

without those, games like Falcon Gold would run like a slog.
Same applies to other games.

>> No.6472407

Playthrough video of map16 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TKCob12M9eE

>> No.6472412

>>6472406
That's not the same as just running it with a bare 386 though.

>> No.6472415

>>6472412
https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/m/mathcopr.htm

because it was expensive, and most people had only bare 386's or 486's

>> No.6472432

>>6472406
the only ones buying 386 math co pros where people using productivity software. by 1993 the pentium 1 was out and it was comparatively cheap to buy a minimum 486 system that could run doom.

>> No.6472447

>>6472432
said people also played flight sims, and those needed a lot of CPU power

>> No.6472462

>>6472364
Doom 2 upped the minimum spec to a 486. Probably because of the larger levels and more complex enemy behaviors.

>> No.6472468

>>6472447
yeah I remember those... 10 fps on your pimped out 386.

>> No.6472472

Satanic Infestation just makes me laugh.
"I DON'T LIKE HOW FREEDOOM IS TRYING TO BE MORE ORIGINAL SO IM GOING TO MAKE A FORK OF IT TO MAKE IT LITERALLY JUST BOOTLEG DOOM"/

>> No.6472479

https://youtu.be/unwR8FnBCKA
>aranged differently some of the songs from Marathon would fit halo
Im certain marty never heard a single song from Marathon.

>> No.6472480

>>6472472
Good. I hope he succeeds.

>> No.6472487

>>6472480
Why make a bootleg Doom when people could literally just pirate doom off of github (yes not even joking)

At least freedoom is trying to be more original and have a unique cast of foes, story, etc. We do not need freedoom without any heart or originality.

>> No.6472501
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6472501

I've managed to compile bunch of dev builds on windows even though i'm near illiterate at tech, so i may as well share it. MSYS2 with it's MinGW tools turned out to be plenty useful as it took just a few textual commands to do things. I will be doing updates from time to time, anons may write some requests here as i frequent /vr/
Things done as for now are: crispy doom and heretic, prboom umapinfo, quakespasm spiked and vulkan quakespasm. All inside down the corresponding links and all should be working (i think so)
https://mega.nz/folder/UfQE3KZR#cU-qylDoY1LCrBrTo6wzMg Doom
https://mega.nz/folder/APIjkSLZ#ojRdVY038Kd49kDNNQXJrA Quake
https://mega.nz/folder/APIjkSLZ#ojRdVY038Kd49kDNNQXJrA Build engine
https://mega.nz/folder/NSAlQaZC#jE9K9dUSY70jLVO_gN8F0Q Soundfonts
https://mega.nz/folder/9gAQGCAA#PF6tz-nWTAclug4_1KUVTA Thief

>> No.6472515

>>6472501
>prboom umapinfo
What commit did you compile it on?
https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus

Depending on if it's from the last couple weeks, it also includes the fix anon was mentioning a few threads ago with the armor color depending on armor type, not amount.

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>>6472515
>>6472501
I mean this in the StatusBar/HUD menu, btw

>> No.6472539

How do I make a good-looking cave? So far I never managed that.

>> No.6472543

>>6472539
TNT Revilution had some good caves, you could take a look at those.

>> No.6472556

>>6472501
Bookmarked, shared, liked, retweeted, subscribed, pledged, followed, reblogged, linked, UNF'd.

>> No.6472562

>>6472539
Plenty of rock formations. Take a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXRBpIW-JM

>> No.6472567

>>6472515
Like with the rest of sources i did copy of latest snapshots, so prboom has that fix

>> No.6472578

>>6472487
>Why make a bootleg Doom when people could literally just pirate doom off of github (yes not even joking)
What do you mean? You can technically compile the engine yourself, but you still need the assets (iwad).

>> No.6472584
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6472584

Turok developer come back to meeeee. I wish I saved those screenshots

>> No.6472586
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>>6472567
>>6472529
>>6472515
>>6472501
This greatly pleases my autism.

>> No.6472590

>>6472578
No. I don't mean the engine.
https://github.com/dgeng/iwad

>> No.6472594
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6472594

Real chad HUD

>> No.6472598

>>6472590
Thaaaaat's fucking funny.

>> No.6472602
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6472602

Oculus Quest arrived just the day after QuestZDoom was realeased, and it feels like a dream come true.

Visiting the wads i played and BE there is staggering. And the voxel weapon mods keep the retro feeling just right.

But i realized a couple of things
-my aim is not nearly as good as I thought it was
-doomguy can into fast paced combat, but i cant.

Hell is intense.

>> No.6472668
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6472668

How the fuck Do I filter bot filled servers out of the browser in Quake 3? If I wanted to fight bots Id play singleplayer. Also why is it i see a bunch of servers where human players are all just spectators and they only have like 1 bot in the arena?

>> No.6472673

>>6472668
Sarge was so cool he deserved a better game as a main protag than fucking arena.

>> No.6472678

>>6472594
Gonna link this to anyone planning on playing Marathon 1 nowadays with A1
http://simplici7y.com/items/marathon-classic-hud

>> No.6472687
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6472687

Choose your waifu

>> No.6472696

DooM?
i CooM

>> No.6472714

>>6472673
>Sarge was so cool
He was just an old guy with a cigar, that was his entire character, what was cool about him

>> No.6472715

>>6472687
I pick crash

>> No.6472717

>>6472687
The one on the right is not retro.

>> No.6472721

>the virgin civvie
>the chad rottking
https://youtu.be/HJcf0aOwmiA

>> No.6472728

Any good maps to play with Treasure Tech?

>> No.6472734

>>6472728
Super mayhem 17 or wait until the official mapset is out

>> No.6472738

>>6472375
>>6472406
>no math co-processor
>sad

>> No.6472741

>>6472721
It was so satisfying once I finally learned the proper distancing to consistently play punch-out with them boners. Makes fighting them even more fun than before

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>> No.6472770

any suggestions? >>6471236

>> No.6472784
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>>6472594
>chad HUD
It looks like one of those Tiger LCD games lmao

>> No.6472796
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6472796

>>6472784
Stfu anime bitch.

>> No.6472802

>>6472770
Rekkr?

>> No.6472804

>>6472784
Why does she not have a nose? How the fuck does she smell BAKA!?

>> No.6472809

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odeGFoFuu_k

>> No.6472812
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6472812

>>6472784
Bitches leave

>> No.6472814

>>6472784
Based Satania

>> No.6472850

>>6472784
An anime girl doesn't make your opinion more valid you fucking retarded idiot

>> No.6472853

ANNON WHU DIDNET OYOU BEAT ROtT YET???

>> No.6472859

>>6472853
B O O T Y P L S

>> No.6472860

>>6472853
No good source port.

>> No.6472862

>>6472860
You could probably try ROTTEX but it's a little janky atm

>> No.6472878

>>6472721
Best god damn Doom video there is.
>youtube
...and it barely gets any attention.

>> No.6472883
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6472883

>>6472784
Remember the good old days when you fuckers posted stuff like this? What went so wrong?

>> No.6472886

>>6472721
>those on screen comments
10/10

>> No.6472914

>>6472687
I choose the bandicoot
no homo

>> No.6472928

>>6472914
>I choose the bandicoot
W O A H that was funny, kek

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6472934

>>6472883
>desu
>good old days

>> No.6472958

>>6472878
Its ok, its a true classic in the hearts of real doom fans

>> No.6472963
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6472963

I fucking hate this game

>> No.6472968

>>6472963
>3x20
Huh???

>> No.6472978

Man i like the ambient sound engine in Marathon but it wouldnt have killed em to add some music in the levels. Especially when they had psykosonik helping them. https://youtu.be/T_MBPVC2tMM

>> No.6472984

Can't wait for 360 emulation to get good so we can play the superior version of Durandal on PC.

>> No.6472987

What's the lore in Marathon like, anyway?

For the longest time I figured it was literally just Doom on Mac, in that it was just run around really fast and haha gun go bang bang

>> No.6472997

>>6472987
Its insanely lore heavy. It starts with generic "oh noes teh aliens!" And ends with nightmares, metaphysics, understanding identity, fate, destiny all that http://marathon.bungie.org/story/ take a peak!

>> No.6473018

>>6472963
Someone should make a Hexen mod where every single wall is a switch.

>> No.6473045
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6473045

I will say thar Marathon 1 and 2 are pretty straightforward in terms of story with some sprinklings of philosophy like in pic related. Infinity is where the writer fucking goes all out.

>> No.6473089

How's BlooM (the doom-blood crossover)?

>> No.6473110

>>6472584
Why not just search on desuarchive?

>> No.6473124

>>6473110
because im a lazy bum and the thought of searching for hours makes me sad.

>> No.6473136

How do I get chex quest and high noon drifter to play nice with one another? when I started playing it, I discovered the chaingun (or 'rapid zorcher') doesn't get converted properly to the Sierra M-12. Don't know about other pickup weapons, didn't get far enough in. Keys also aren't showing up properly either.

>> No.6473139

Does anyone have that old ass contra doom mod that was made by an anon here ages ago? Not Contra Doom by Beed28, there was one before that where the weapon had a funny little screen on it.

>> No.6473146

Fuck Decino. He is just a coat tail rider of people like civ11e and GGman. Except he doesn't have the charisma or effort to make actual videos so he just makes the same autistic videos on the same game.

>> No.6473152

>>6473146
All those people have different content/formats than each other.

>> No.6473153

>>6473146
At least Decino's cock is huge.

>> No.6473156

>>6473146
None of them are alike at all.ggman makes reviews, civvie makes highly edited comedic playthroughs. Decino just breaks down mechanics.

>> No.6473158

>>6473146
Weak as fuck bait m8, decino actually talks about the tech and code, Civvie makes entertaining edited lets plays essentially and Gman is a faggot.

>> No.6473159

>>6473146
How the fuck do people find shillman watchable, anyway? He ends every sentence like he's asking a question or sometheeng???? Or he's just spewing whatever stupid meme he saw on social media that day
I hope Beth at least paid him well for calling Doom Eternal "one of the best FPSes ever made". I'd know I'd want a fat check from Todd himself if I was forced to say that.

>> No.6473160

>>6473146
That's some stanky bait. Gross.

>> No.6473186

>>6472472
Hey there IvanDobrovski

>> No.6473192

>>6472934
I'd gladly have desu over Reddit/Twitter spamming shibe or 4chan spamming wojacks.

>> No.6473197
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>>6472301
>Doom Eternal allows you to play the classic DOOM games on the Fortress of Doom's computer
I wonder what Doomguy thinks of the fact that the nuDoom universe has video games that actually depict his adventures in the classic universe.

>> No.6473209

>>6472714
You're talking as if all the other characters were super heavy on the lore.

>> No.6473221

>>6473018
Someone should make a Hexen campaign that relies on something other than finding 9 hidden switches

>> No.6473242

>>6472687
None of them are the waifu for me unfortunately, my heart belongs to the Quake 2 computer, every time I hear that monotone voice say those two simple words, it just makes my heart skip a beat.

>> No.6473245
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6473245

>>6472687
You picked the wrong Quake girl.

>> No.6473260

>>6473197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmhrKegm3p0

>> No.6473285

>>6473242
computer
updated

>> No.6473290
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Durandals the fucking coolest

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>>6472301
In case any linux-friends care, I want to share this bash script I wrote for myself as a PR/GLBoom+ launcher. It can be used interactively or through arguments only.

https://pastebin.com/D6yM5dDA

The idea is that it auto-applies sprite fixes and dssecret, as well as optional DEH patches and perk's DoomSFX. It also has a list of wads that it recognizes for which it applies the correct complevel, IWAD, and wad-specific fixes. If you play a WAD that's not recognized, it just asks you what cl and iwad to use. It also integrates demo playing/recording and passes any extra arguments directly to glboom. It also copies the final launch command to the clipboard in case you want to retry a demo recording right away after interactive mode

Keep in mind you should tell it where to find your pr/glboom binary in the first couple of lines. It should detect any wads in your DOOMWADPATH environment variable, or failing that, inside ~/.prboom-plus. Or just in the current directory.

It might not be terribly useful to anyone except myself, but I thought I'd share anyway, on the off chance that someone likes it. It should work just as well for Mac-friends. Don't know how much tinkering it would need for Windows-friends. If you feel like it, try to break it and let me know if you find anything wrong so I can fix it!

>> No.6473307

What's the advantage of PR/GLBoom+ over crispy?

>> No.6473310

>>6473307
You can play Boom-compatible maps in the former. You can't on the latter. You can make the former render the game at higher resolutions. You can't on the latter, just up to double-native resolution (+widescreen recently). Those are the main things that come to mind.

>> No.6473465

>>6473307
PrBoom supports boom mapping format, and MBF deh/bex extensions.
Wads like Community Chests 2-4, Whispers of Satan, Speed of Doom, Resurgence, Valiant, Sunlust, Ancient Aliens, and Eviternity are unplayable in Crispy.

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>>6473245
>>6472687
>>6472715
>>6472914
>>6473242
You're ALL wrong.

>> No.6473487

>>6473465
Huh, Community Chest 1 doesn't require Boom? In the doom wiki page for it it says to the right that it's "Boom-compatible" but in the article proper it says it's for limit-removing. So which one is it?

>> No.6473494

>>6473310
>>6473465
Does having boom compatibility somehow detracts from vanilla accuracy? Is there any reason to use crispy over it, then?

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cute

>> No.6473501
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6473501

>>6473473
Both Hunter and Lucy are perfect in their own ways. One is 6'6" of sheer feminine muscle and bronze cleavage, the perfect Adonis-with-tits given a lightning gun and a nasty attitude, able to backflip with every jump and wanting nothing more than to crush every Sorg skull beneath the heel of her enormous metal boots. The other is a wobbling, cellulite-speckled lardo with an ass I want to fucking suffocate under and her own brand of Southern-fried justice to dish out, if she'd stop hitting on the other combatants. Totally opposite, extreme ends of the body spectrum. Man, where were all these people bitching about lack of body positivity back in '99?

>> No.6473505

>>6473494
No anon, I think you're misunderstanding.

You can use PR/GLBoom+ to play Doom/Doom2 vanilla and limit-removing maps in the correct compatibility setting and be completely accurate, just like Crispy.

You can also use PR/GLBoom+ to play Doom/Doom2 Boom and MBF format maps in the correct compatibility setting and be completely accurate. This is the part that Crispy can't do, Crispy only does vanilla and limit-removing.

The most commonly used -complevel arguments used with PR/GLBoom+ are the following:
>-complevel 2 for Doom 2
>-complevel 3 for The Ultimate Doom
>-complevel 4 for Final Doom
>-complevel 9 for Boom
>-complevel 11 for MBF

There's complevels from 0 to 17, but the ones listed above are ones you'll use 99% of the time. The others would be very special cases that you'll probably never encounter.

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>>6473501
What if... they body swapped?

>> No.6473514

>>6473505
>and be completely accurate, just like Crispy.
But that's exactly what I'm asking. If it can be as accurate then what's the point of crispy? I'm just wondering if it has anything over PR/GLBoom+.

>> No.6473518

>>6473496
Treasure tech is cute in general. Lots of love went into every design

>> No.6473520

>>6473514
Some people like Crispy's quality of life features, for example sprite brightmaps (you can see demons' red eyes glowing in the dark, etc), randomly flipped corpses, among other things in the "Crispiness" menu. It has a lot of nice details that people enjoy.

The currently active fork of prboom apparently has plans to incorporate many of these quality of life/neat details into prboom, but that hasn't happened yet.

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Anons I...I think I'm slowly getting into speedrunning Doom WADs

Send help, I don't know if I want to get sucked down into that rabbit hole

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>>6473508
My enjoyment of fat Hunter would possibly be overridden by my fear/disgust of thin/muscular Lucy.

>> No.6473546

>>6473487
CC1 was limit removing.

>> No.6473549
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>>6473530
Maturbate to Sandy and all will be ok.

>> No.6473552

>>6473546
Then why does it say this in the TXT file?
>Advanced engine needed : Boom/PrBoom or ZDoom

>> No.6473558
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>> No.6473565

Ultima Underworld died for this.

>> No.6473581

>>6473558
At least raze is not java.

>> No.6473587

>>6473552
I think back then (2003), people didn't explicitly use the term "limit removing" yet. It recommended Boom because it removed vanilla limits. Maps were still made in vanilla format, as a requirement for the project was to not use any source port features.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/173755
>*No Boom specials and tags please.

>> No.6473594

>MAP27 of Scythe
>Erik makes you fight 4 cyberdemons with mandatory partial invisibility at the very end

What a cruel bastard. I love it.

What other WADs pull dick moves like this? Where it's obviously a dick move but you can't get mad at it if you die because it's still 100% on you for not dodging gud.

>> No.6473602

>>6473581
Damn Java, you only get hundreds of FPS on cradle to grave rather than thousands!

>> No.6473604

>>6473587
Thank you for clarifying anon

>> No.6473608

>>6473473
is that pit hair?

>> No.6473613
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>>6473473
FUPA Queen

>> No.6473635

>>6473613
I'd let her queen me, if you catch my drift.

>> No.6473653

>>6473604
Though funnily enough, as a side effect of some of them using boom for testing, there are some rare bugs in regards to certain triggers, due to boom having changed behaviour. For example, while Map01 is finishable in crispy, the green armour bridge doesn't correctly go up.

>> No.6473654

>>6473520
Boom-compatible/MBF-compatible Crispy with OpenGL option would be God-tier

>> No.6473656

>>6473654
I mean, you're basically describing what the goal of the current prboom fork is. Crispy's author is working on the same fork.

>> No.6473663

>>6473594
>it's still 100% on you for not dodging gud
The partial invis adds randomness to their attacks so one rocket could be leading you and you run right into it. Or the three cyberdemons could split up, one of them walking into the wall, instead of all three staying in the center of the room. I had both of these happen to me while 100%-ing this map. You could just skip the cyberdemons, but you could also just skip the entire level and beat it in ~12 seconds using the speedrun skip

>> No.6473665

>>6473656
Which fork is this? I thought Graf had the only fork of PrBoom still in active development
> https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus

>> No.6473668

>>6473665
That's the fork I'm talking about. You can see that Fabian (Crispy guy) is also working on it in the commit log.

>> No.6473672

>>6473663
Oh I know. And the only way to prevail against that randomness is raw reflexes. If you get a rocket leading you and you fail to adjust course before smacking into it. Or at least it feels that way. I don't actually know how humanly possible it is to have such insane reflexes to save yourself from RNG. I haven't done UVMax speedruns of the level or anything so I don't know how bullshit it can get. I do know the UVSpeed skip you're talking about though

>> No.6473679

>>6473668
Oh, ty. I haven't looked at that thing in a while, I just saved the bookmark. I also don't know how to into github

>> No.6473690

>>6473672
The rocket travels at about 50 mph, and you're going about 30-40 while strafe-running, so dodging a perfectly-led rocket is beyond most humans. The only way to prevail against that randomness is to grind until you get a good run

>> No.6473694 [DELETED] 

>>6472687
Crash was Doomguy's military instructor, which means that she's older than him and most likely a milf.

>> No.6473705 [DELETED] 
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I've been of my meds for a couple of days, then I took them and went to bed and had some sort of weird altered mind experience, so I tried to use it to get some ideas for Doom mapping. This is the result.

>> No.6473707

>>6473694
Thirties is 'milf' status now? I doubt she has any kids, look at those goddamn abs.

>> No.6473713

>>6473705
A tech panel set 8 units in the wall is really the result of mind-altering drugs? Seems pretty standard to me.

>> No.6473729 [DELETED] 

>>6473713
What can I say, it was pretty lame experience.

>> No.6473776

>>6473707
>those aren't abs, they're each individual fetuses forming inside her 6 wombs

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got bored

>> No.6473786

>>6473707
>Thirties is 'milf' status now
Always has been. Around mid 30s to be more precise. Why? Probably because people on 4chan tends to lean on the younger side so mid 30s seems rather old.

>> No.6473859

>>6473705
Mate, I go to toilet and take a shit to come up with more creative things.

>> No.6473903 [DELETED] 

>>6473784
Go home and be a family man.

>> No.6473948
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>download that one SC-55 soundfont and VirtualMIDISynth
>try to use it
>get this error
Wat do? Using this version specifically, don't know if there's a newer one
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/86422-so-i-updated-my-roland-sound-canvas-soundfont/

>> No.6473963 [DELETED] 

>>6473948
Patch93's is outdated. And if you're going out of your way to use VirtualMIDISynth, install the Roland emulator/Sound Canvas VA instead.

>> No.6473967

>>6473948
That's because it doesn't support sfpack, you need to decompress it to sf2. Patch93's is outdated anyways. And if you're going out of your way to use VirtualMIDISynth, install the Roland emulator/Sound Canvas VA instead.

>> No.6473969

>>6473948
Looks to be the wrong format, should be an .sf2 file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8-CgvC-As
There, the one from this video is better anyway.

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>>6473948
You need to unpack the SFPack archive with the SFPack application. Yes, really.
http://www.personalcopy.com/sfpack.htm

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>>6473967
>>6473969
Thanks, that new one sounds great. Drowns out the sound effects at its default volume but VirtualMIDISynth lets you lower that so it's perfect.

>> No.6474068

>Sunlust Map15
Goddamn this was a brutal map.

>> No.6474086

>>6473245
Those hips and thighs holy shit my dick my very male member

>> No.6474313

What is alt-fire on tommy gun in Blood good for? Is it just for people who didn't have mouse to turn around fast enough?

>> No.6474317 [DELETED] 

>>6474313
They probably couldn't come up with anything better and decided to make something that looks cool, usefulness be damned.

>> No.6474340

>>6472784
Based.

>> No.6474402

>>6472302
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68667

Eternal Slayer, a new 3rd person melee mod.

>> No.6474403

>>6473565
Good.

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>>6474402

>> No.6474427
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Aah ahh, uuuh!

>> No.6474449

>>6473565
For what?

>> No.6474476

>>6474402
Not true 3D person. Slayer is just a HUD element.
So when it looks like a fireball goes past the slayer's right and into the screen, you still get hit, and the enemies very visibly attack not the slayer, but the camera.

There was one actual 3D person mod inspired in parts by Max Payne or some such, "Dark hunter" or something like that.

>> No.6474496

>>6474476
You can play it in Chasecam, which is *actually* 3D

>> No.6474519

>>6472501
That's great but your link for quake is wrong, please fix

>> No.6474525

>>6474496
I don't think that would solve the problem.

>> No.6474532

>>6473784
>finances
>research to unlock weapons
>crew
>permadeath for crew so extract your badly wounded guys or lose them
>stats
>stat increases between levels based on performance
>wounded people need to recover in the sickbay
>enemies keep getting stronger
>limited bonus for non-lethal enemy extraction
>base management?
Tricky but it could work.

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>>6474525
Yes, it does. The only problem I have with the mod is that chasecam isn't on by default, enabling fake 3D by default.

>> No.6474556
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>hm
>I want this part of the level to require an archvile jump but I don't know how to convey it
>oh wait I got it

>> No.6474558

>>6473501
Completely agree. Lucy is just as desirable as Hunter

>> No.6474561

>>6472302
Wrath Update 2+ Big Box
https://youtu.be/VmJc5ReteFQ

>> No.6474562

>>6474556
I love that snake cult looking helmet.

>> No.6474572

>>6474556
What wad is this?

>> No.6474573 [DELETED] 

>tfw love Marisa's work
>tfw he's mentally ill communist who has now been pumped full of estrogen

How many lives is this trend gonna destroy?

>> No.6474575

What are some great mapsets for Treasure Tech? Just played through Super Mayhem 17 with it and want more.

>> No.6474576

>>6474573
...what?

>> No.6474579

Does anyone remember a gameplay mod from around 2014~15 where you played in third person as some dude in all black, and the gameplay was based around dodging and bullet time? I believe there were some rpg elements too.

>> No.6474581

>>6474572
Eternal

>> No.6474582

>>6474573
She's a linux witch too and I love her. Would cuddle with.

>> No.6474597

>>6474579
Found it. It's called Black Warrior if anyone's curious. Seems abandoned though. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?style=12&?f=43&t=53545

>> No.6474603 [DELETED] 

>>6474582
>she
>witch

You're exhibiting the linguistic symptoms of communist delusion. Seek help.

>> No.6474608

>>6474603
what? the fuck are you on about? go back to /x/

>> No.6474609

>>6474573
Narcissism and delusion is as enduring as mankind itself.

And even if we got to a transhuman period where you could actually choose, it would not matter at that point, there will probably be fags that identify as main sequence stars.

>> No.6474610

>>6474603
Whatever you say. More of that femcock for me then.

>>6474576
>>6474608
Marisa is a tranny doom modder that posts here from time to time about her current projects. She has a trip too.

>> No.6474616

>>6474610
Cool but nobody cares if a modder is a tranny you fucking loser

>> No.6474618 [DELETED] 

>>6474603
>>6474573
I am mentally ill communist myself but my communist satanic bible says literally nothing about pumping retards full of estrogen until they kill themselves and I do not approve such actions.

>>6474610
>her
You're exhibiting the linguistic symptoms of globalist delusion. Seek help.

>> No.6474619

>>6474616
...woops, i thought you were the same anon as >>6474603 , I didn't read thoroughly enough, woops

>> No.6474625

Remember when we had janitors on this board?

>> No.6474626

>>6474625
Me neither.

>> No.6474629

>>6474608
It's /pol/, not /x/.

>> No.6474630
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>>6474572
Eternal DOOM, a.k.a. "how do we make these switch hunts more obtuse than Hexen?"
It's pretty great aesthetically at points though

>> No.6474632

>>6474629
Nah, this is more /v/, coming into video game threads and bitching about stupid shit in an attempt to derail the thread.
He succeeded.

>> No.6474635

>>6473473
>tfw I'm a chubby chaser and find her somewhat attractive

>> No.6474636

>>6474625
There was the one guy who squatted in the threads but he said he wasn't actually a mod and was using a borrowed account. So now hes gone and thats why some very specific trolls can post with impunity now.

>> No.6474640 [DELETED] 

>>6474625
Yeah, once they banned me ten or twelve times in the row.
>I ban this bad troll for 15 hours
>oh no he came back a minute later and bragging about evading his ban
>better ban him for 16 hours that time
Literally unable to learn.

>> No.6474641

>>6474427
"USA!"

>> No.6474645

>>6474640
>get banned
>ban evade
>announce ban evasion and further pursue off topic posting
Dumb ESL poster.

>> No.6474653 [DELETED] 

>>6474645
That's how you deal with these people, lowly scum should know their place. Even the fact that they are literally named "janitors" does not goes through their thick heads, they still think they have some power. I could just evade ban and keep quiet, but I want the fact that they are powerless to do anything to sink in.

>> No.6474657

>>6474653
So (you)'re admitting you're part of the problem. A shitposting addict.

>> No.6474663

>>6474653
You're not much better getting such a power trip from just ban evading.

>> No.6474670 [DELETED] 

The fact people here prefer to shitpost and have off topic discussions proves how outdated doom and retro fpses are. It's time to move on.

>> No.6474673

>>6474630
>TeamTNT does switch hunts
At least they were self-aware. Eternal is such a fitting name.

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>>6474670
Move on to what, exactly?

>> No.6474680

The fact some retards here come to shitpost and have off topic discussions in a thread dedicated to retro fpses proves how useless those people are. It's time to move on and do something more useful.

>> No.6474682 [DELETED] 

>>6474657
>>6474663
Ah poop, I was typing a lengthy rebuttal and I accidentally lost it and don't feel like typing it again, so I will just announce that you both are retards and I banged ur mums.

>> No.6474687

>>6474680
>>v

>> No.6474691

>>6474687
FUCK I FUCKED IT UP

>> No.6474693

Is water rising properly a Marathon 2/infinity thing? Im playing cryptic passage and they try to do it but its just the floor rising so you cant swim. Does flood zone in duke3d have water rising? I cant remember

>> No.6474696

>>6474682
You're not even that committed to your shitposting habits then. You're pathetic.

>> No.6474698

>>6474693
Not sure if it counts but Half-Life can do that sort of thing

>> No.6474701

>>6474561
This looks so... meh.

>> No.6474702

>>6474682
Ah poop, I was typing a lengthy rebuttal and I accidentally lost it and don't feel like typing it again, so I will just announce that you are a superretard and I banged ur dad too.

>> No.6474703

>>6474402
Ah yes the dude whose made the same mod 3 times now

>> No.6474705

>>6474703
2.
The first ninja doom became the 3D Ninja Doom mod

>> No.6474707

>>6474698
Youre right im dumb i should have specified more in the earlier doom era

>> No.6474708 [DELETED] 

>>6474696
You're not in position to call me pathetic because you're a faggot, you're mum is whore, yor dad is dickgirl and your first GF was your pedo uncle.

>>6474702
And you suck man penis.

>>6474693
>Does flood zone in duke3d have water rising? I cant remember
Yes it did. Or maybe lowering. Definitely had water level changing.

>> No.6474715

>>6474545
Is there any Chasecam mod that has a horizontal offset setting? ZCChasecam and ZK-Chase don't have such option.

>> No.6474717
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>>6472301
New WRATH: Aeon of Ruin update released, founder's edition big box and release dates announced.

https://youtu.be/VmJc5ReteFQ

Patch notes: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1000410/discussions/0/1740010344359092915/

>> No.6474719

>>6474635
That makes at least two of us, although I'd remove 'somewhat.'

>> No.6474724

>>6474715
Personally i just use the vanilla GZDoom chase key

>> No.6474725

>>6474717
>15 levels in a finished game

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Why did quake mp have to die? I just wanna frag.

>> No.6474735

>>6474653
You know that most people on this website hate you and people like you, right?

>> No.6474736

>>6474730
people moved on to TF2

>> No.6474737 [DELETED] 

>>6474735
Impossible. I am one of the most adored people right there.

>> No.6474738

>>6474736
I think most TF2 players are on Open Fortress now, so TF2 is only a quarter full now.

>> No.6474739
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>>6474725
The levels are kinda huge. I've been playing the new one for almost an hour and I haven't even been exploring. The three previous to this are about 30-45 minutes long.

>> No.6474742 [DELETED] 

I wonder if it would be possible for Shithesda to give original Dooms a Super Mario Maker treatment? I'm not talking about something like SnapMap, but an actual level editor where you can upload and download maps.

>> No.6474743

>>6474725
aren't they big levels, and in hubs?

>> No.6474750
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>>6474736
But I dont want to plat tf2, I wanna play Quake DAMNIT!

>> No.6474751

>>6474739
The game looks cool but like Ion Fury it has no bite.
Maybe I am just jaded.

Or maybe not I liked amid evil.

>> No.6474752

>>6474735
Very possible. I am one of the biggest faggots right there.

>> No.6474759

>>6474738
You're either a loony or really bad at estimating numbers.

>> No.6474762

>>6472914
no woah-mo?

>> No.6474763

>>6474738
not retro but holy FUCK Open Fortress is so good, Im surprised but very thankful that it wasn't dead on arrival like most MP source mods

>>6474750
Open Fortress has Quake styled bhop. It's a lil weird feeling at first, but you easily get used it real quick, and it's super fun

>> No.6474769

>>6474763
How weird feeling? I'd expect it to be identical given Source is still running Q1 movement code and supports proper bunny hopping out of the box unless the devs specifically change it (eg TF2 not having buffered jump inputs and having bhoppings speed gain severely reduced early in the game's life).

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>>6472987
>>6472997
Marathon is completely batshit insane and nearly incomprehensible, and I love it for that. Being led around by higher powers that know what's going on and refuse to tell you why they're throwing you into horrifying situations is part of the fun.

>> No.6474772

>>6474763
I can't even get the mod to install. Tortoisesvn just hangs for a long time before eventually failing saying the request timed out.

>> No.6474776

>>6474717
>patch notes says "Increased the responsiveness of player movement"
I wonder what that entails? I haven't played it with the patch yet, but hopefully that means bhopping/strafejumping or whatever it technically has feels better.

>> No.6474779

>>6474763
Does Open Fortress have grenades?

>> No.6474781

>>6474751
IMO looks better than Ion Fury.

>> No.6474782

>>6474781
Sure.

But I love how Ion Fury looks and even plays. Shame about everything else.

>> No.6474783

>>6474675
hell

>> No.6474784

>>6474730
I don't believe you.

>> No.6474786

>>6474769
Idk at first it felt like it was a little harder to accelerate at first. It's still kind of like that, but you get used it it. Plus jumping up sloped areas feels a little clunky. I think overall it's more based on airstrafing to gain speed than Q1. That or my airstrafing skills are somewhat rusty.

>>6474772
I think that's just because the SVN is down for some reason, happened to me when I tried updating it to the latest version. I'd suggest joining the official Discord server to keep up to date with it in case there's news of an SVN outage or update in general.

>> No.6474787

>>6474779
There's throwing dynamite

>> No.6474793

>>6472602
You'll get used to it with time, gotta get your VR legs as they say. Same guy ported quake, quake 2, and hl to quest, worth your time to check them out (quake online works but have fun trying to compete with kbm players).

>> No.6474805

>>6474770
Just the background on the security officer is cool as fuck
>not a heroic man who rose the ranks or a dutiful soldier
>just a soldiers corpse they stuffed with implants to make him strong
>so strong in fact theyre kind are considered WMDs
>ends up going insane and remembering the memories of the dead soldier they used to make him
>no alliegance just constantly being used and abused turning on former allies at just because a comptuer terminal told him to
>stuffed with ancient alien tech just to survive timeline hopping

>> No.6474815

Since people were talking about her a while ago, Marisa's new gameplay mod looks fun as hell. She's playtesting it on twitch and it looks like some insane fun.

>> No.6474818

Am I the only one who gets hungry when I chainsaw a caco?

>> No.6474819

>>6474815
>playing anything made by whores
What a simp

>> No.6474823
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>>6472997
>It starts with generic "oh noes teh aliens!"
That's actually a cool way to start. You do run the risk of giving the impression that it's just gonna be "teh aliens" by having that right off the bat, but if done right you can really fuck with the expectations of the player by building off of that and making some deep shit that makes them think "oh shit it's not just 'teh aliums' any more," which I'd assume Marathon does anyway. I always thought the idea of taking generic tropes in fiction and building a world and making actual lore around that was a neat idea, kind of like The Venture Bros. how it started as a parody of the boy adventurer cartoon trope, and eventually started doing this parody of super villians and bad guys by having the Guild of Calamitous Intent and the OSI have actual rules and regulations with how good guys and bad guys fight. Obviously that's more so done for comedic purposes, but the idea of super villians having their own organization and actual rules on how to fight good guys is both hilariously ironic but also really fascinating to see play out.

>> No.6474824

>>6474782
But if IF looks good and plays good, what's the problem with it?

>> No.6474829
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>"Some of the AI in the sidekicks was flawed but if you took the time to learn how they work and react, then they're great. Daikatana is not a bad game, it just became a victim of hype. How could it have lived up to the hype, to Doom and Quake? I wanted to make an FPS for FPS experts and maybe we could've not thrown tiny flying enemies at the player in the first level but that was misunderstood by reviewers who didn't give the game a chance."
-John Romero

Is he right?

>> No.6474830

>>6474824

It has no identity.

>> No.6474831

>>6474818
When I punch a Pain Elemental actually. Just wanna grab that big meatball.

>> No.6474835

>>6474829
No. The game is potentially unwinnable if your sidekick decides to never unstick themselves from a ladder

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>>6474829
Did you know Romero confirmed that the hole on the back of the Cacos is an asshole? Also that little black dot in the Imp's crotch in it's dead sprite is indeed an asshole. He said blame Kevin Cloud, not him.

I know that is unrelated but I heard him answer that in a Q&A recently and this reminded me of it.

>> No.6474839

Why do people hate so much on Daikatana but defend Quake 2? Am I out of the loop for some dumb meme?

>> No.6474840

>>6474829
He'll say anything to sell a product or get out of trouble.

>> No.6474843

>>6474823
Well in Marathon the Pfhor (the main evil alien race) are the central part and outside of it are other world building things happening. Also Marathon doesnt just treat them as mindless monsters. In 2 and infinity you visit areas occupied by the Pfhor and you read terminals made by high ranking officals that let you in on their politics a bit. Theyre a highly militaristic but very bureaucratic race of slavers that take honor and duty very seriously. But in infinity its mainly all about defeating a lovecraftian chaos god

>> No.6474848
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6474848

>>6474840
Why does King Romero make you seeth so much?

>> No.6474849

>>6474837
Do Cacos have two assholes then? There's two holes back there.

>> No.6474851

>>6474849
Cacussy

>> No.6474852 [DELETED] 

>>6474839
Quake 2 may be boring and uninspired, but it actually works, unlike Daikatana.

>> No.6474853

>>6474829
Isn't that a pretty old quote?
Anyway, the game shipped with a lot of bugs, and the first level is really not very appealing or fun, even if overall, Dai-Katana is mostly an ok game (assuming you patch out all the bugs), with all the hype and delay (for the time), I fail to see how else it would be received. An "ok" product with a lot of problems out the gate will not be better received for being hyped.

The way the AI works (or frankly, just doesn't), is one of the game's big flaws, there's no getting around it.

>> No.6474854

>>6474849
I think so yes. One for liquid waste and one for solid perhaps. The guy just asked "Is that hole on the back of the Cacodemon..." and Romero answer "Oh, yep! Yep, that where he poops. The little black square between the Imps legs too. Sorry Kevin Cloud did that, not me!"

>> No.6474856

>>6474851
Pls no

>> No.6474858

>>6474839
When was Dai-Katana ever widely well regarded? Where? Some people dislike Quake 2 a lot, but a lot of it is forced memes too.

>> No.6474859

>>6474853
It's from the late 2000s

>> No.6474861

>>6474859
So like 2008 or 2009? That's pretty long ago, and not all that many years after Dai-Katana fell on its face.

>> No.6474862

>>6474848
No seething. He's just been damaged beyond repair. Much like any other sudden success person.

>> No.6474863

Did id ever have any ideas for female demons in Doom? Or was it always male demons in all instances? I haven't read the Doom Bible or Masters of Doom or anything like that, so I don't know if they thought of some female demon that got scrapped.

>> No.6474864

>>6474861
I am fairly sure he still holds the same opinion, in every interview I have seen even the ones where he is gray, he basically makes excuses for Daikatana, acknowledges the AI was bad in the companions but still defends the game as a whole and says he is proud of it. He always apologized profusely for the ad of course as well.

>> No.6474867

>>6474824
Doesn't have much substance, some levels feel like vehicles for gag signs & memes.

>> No.6474868

>>6474858
GBC Daikatana isn't bad at all.

>> No.6474870

>>6474862
SIGIL proved he's still got it and was pretty based
>>6474863
Never, no. Closest thing to that is Tom Hall using digitized actors (people around the office) of both male and female versions of the enemies in Rise of the Triad, but that feature was scrapped due to memory requirements of the system that randomly chose which sprite to use and was when he was at Apogee anyway

>> No.6474871

>>6474864
Well, yeah, but that's not he same as the quote presented here, where he makes excuses for the AI itself, when the AI was one of the problems. I can see why he defends it too, not just because the effort put into it (however much incorrect effort was part of it), but because the game has good sides to it, and isn't without merit.

>> No.6474872

>>6474868
Isn't that a completely different game which was outsourced?

>> No.6474874

>>6474871
Honestly it comes off like he doesn't want to tear down or shit on whoever coded that AI because he always sort of dances around it. When pressed he will say it was bad AI but he will also say if you learn how to play with them they can be fun

>> No.6474876

>>6474862
>He's just been damaged beyond repair
I don't agree with that.

>>6474870
Sigil if anything cements that one of his best talents has been making levels.

>> No.6474879

>>6474872
Yep. Romero said he wanted it to be like Link's Awakening and that was about all the guidance he gave

>> No.6474886

>>6474829
Very false. Its not even a decent game like say Sin or Kingpin.

>> No.6474893

>>6474863
The mancubus is canonically female.

>> No.6474894

>>6474870
Not like a mapper is going to forget how to map.

>> No.6474895

By the way to the people who haven't played Kingpin yet please play Kingpin thanks

>> No.6474896

>>6474895
It surely has a certain charm. I wanted more in that weird dieselpunk universe. Ugly but with personality.

>> No.6474898

>>6474893
Prove it.

>> No.6474903

>>6474893
>MANcubus, taking from the real word succubus
>female
He's supposed to be a male prostitute in Hell.

>> No.6474908

>>6474903
Okay maybe not in Doom 2 but it was a cut Doom 3 monster https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1007281808646594563

>> No.6474920 [DELETED] 

Well what do you know, I got banned until June 27th. And yet I am still somehow posting. Even worse, my dear jannie friend, after you ban me again, this time probably until June 28th, I will evade ban once again but this time I will not announce it. And you won't be able to do a thing about it. How does it makes you feel? You don't need to answer, I just want to plant seeds of doubt in your soul.

Oh, by the way, if any of you have compassion for him, know that he banned me for ban evasion, not for my flagrant shitposting. He doesn't gives two flying fucks about keeping this thread clean, all he cares about is threats to his imaginary power.

>> No.6474926

>>6474908
Maybe the leaked E3 demo has a model hidden away.
>pictured: Doom2 mancubus
Oh. Just journos having a laugh.

>> No.6474929

>>6474920
Can I suck you massive cock?

>> No.6474935

>>6474929
Probably will have to wait until June 29th. And it's pretty small, actually.

>> No.6474943

>>6474717
>february 2021
>$30 for 15 levels
3DR can fuck off. Ion Fury was already pretty damn expensive for what it was.

>> No.6474950

>>6474920
Are you the guy who always shits on HL?

>> No.6474951

>>6474717
Sometimes I wish 3DR stayed dead. This is just embarrassing.

>> No.6474960

>>6474950
Eww, no. I may be a shitposter, but I have standards.

>> No.6474965

>>6474950
No, he posted some repulsive photo of a furry dinosaur ass

>> No.6474971

>>6474965
Also not me. Though the ass itself wasn't that repulsive, real problem was what it was attached to.

>> No.6474976

>>6473197
I wonder if Doom 3 ever had such an easter egg?

>> No.6474985

>>6474971
sorlag is fine

>> No.6474992

Anyone played the new System Shock demo that just dropped yet?

>> No.6474995

>>6474976
Just Super Turkey Puncher

>> No.6475000

>>6474992
Is it available for non-paypigs?

>> No.6475010

Can Quake 1.5 be made to work on Quakespasm?

>> No.6475017
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>>6473197
That's something I've thought about in fiction before rhetorically: if the work in question takes place in a time/location where the medium it's presented in (books, movies, video games etc) exists, is it possible that the exact same work of fiction that details all of the events in the story exists in that story's universe? Like how there's a Double Dragon arcade cabinet in the Double Dragon movie?

And if it's a live action movie that takes place in a universe where real life actors could possibly exist, do the actors that play the movie's characters also exist in this universe as well? For example if there's actually a Keanu Reeves in the universe of The Matrix, or if Jim Carrey also exists in the universe of the Ace Ventura movies. Really it's just junk food for thought though, if anything.

Pic related, btw

>> No.6475019
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6475019

>>6475010
can i cook pizza in my freezer?

>> No.6475026

>>6475000
Nice trips, but I don't think so.

Video of the demo that went up about an hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV-8cdOXubM

>> No.6475027

>>6474985
Sorlag a cute!

>> No.6475046
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6475046

>>6475000
>what if there was an indie game dev that took their passion and career for making games really seriously and deeply cared about their work and making sure it can be enjoyed by all, but every time they put up a demo on their patreon or something they kept findomming the people who supported them by making them feel like they had small dicks cus they paid money for their demo
that would unironically make me laugh

>> No.6475049

>>6475019
Technically you can, you can unplug the fridge, defrost the freezer and put a hot plate inside. It won't be a good pizza and you most likely ruin the freezer, but it can be done.

>> No.6475060

What's the 100 gecs of doom wads? Want to try something different.

>> No.6475070

>>6475060
Wow.wad or Gothic99

>> No.6475083

>>6475046
>>6474992
>make a demo for the game to show it off to public so that they give you money and buy the game
>only available to those who already paid, thus defeating its purpose

>> No.6475084

>>6475083
It just means they are not confident.

>> No.6475089

>>6475027
I want to hug her!

>> No.6475091

>>6475026
Looks pretty terrible

>>6475010
>>6475019
>>6475049
Didn't the guy promised to release it on 'spasm at some point and then forgot about it?

>> No.6475096

>>6475089
Yes! Cuddle with sorlag to keep her warm!!

>> No.6475106

>>6475026
my eyes holy shit

>> No.6475108

There needs to exist a SCUMMVM, but for FPS games

>> No.6475110

>>6475000
It's on GOG and Steam so I think so? I don't know if you had to pay already to play it

>> No.6475115

>>6475108
Give it 2 decades and Graf will have made something like that.

>> No.6475116

>>6475108
That's a retarded idea.

>> No.6475121

>>6475026
SS2 in dark engine looks much more aesthetic than this.

I love the cyberpunk in SS2, and the clean textures. Playing the game again with new clean texture mods is ultra comfy.

>> No.6475132

>>6475121
Yeah ss2 looked pleasent, this is an assault on the senses

>> No.6475138

>>6475096
FUCK Sorlag to keep her warm.

>> No.6475141
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6475141

>>6474626

>> No.6475149

>>6474829
No. That's total damage control. "Flawed" is a huge understatement. And there's nothing to "misunderstand" about a terrible first impression.

>> No.6475173

whats's a good vanilla megawad? (besides the ones everyone has played like memento mori)

>> No.6475180

>>6475173
God fucking damn it name the ones youve played people

>> No.6475186

>>6475173
1 Monster Megawad (but it's actually boom compatible, JOKES ON YOU)

>> No.6475223

>>6472594
love when the hud takes up more space than the game and displays three (3) pieces of useful information

>> No.6475229

>>6472963
"alright guys, what did people like about Doom/Heretic?"

"definitely running around an empty level over and over for 20 mins looking for a small switch in a dark corner"

"and we'll call it Hexen"

>> No.6475240
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6475240

Here's your monthly "Play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II"

>> No.6475352
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6475352

>>6475229

>> No.6475375

>>6475352
The problem with your post though is that >>6475229 is actually right.

>> No.6475387

>>6475352
I just want to say that I really love that image, and it makes me giggle every time someone posts it.

>> No.6475395

>>6475387
Save it, my friend! It's all yours.

>> No.6475427
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6475427

Unsure if this is the proper thread, but I want to play some Thief FMs, and I cannot get FM Select to work.

I've installed TFix 1.27. Whenever FM Select asks about creating an archive folder, I pick one that is not FMs, but I always get the error "Failed to create the temp/cache directory 'FMs/.fmsel.cache'."

No idea what to do.

>> No.6475446

>>6475375
>game: "A door has opened on x level"
>players: "WTF what am i supposed to do??"
Almost any time you press a switch in Hexen it tells you what it did. Its not that confusing

>> No.6475451

>>6475229
Hexlet detected

>>6475387
Made that one, like a square peg in a round hole

>> No.6475463

>>6475446
>You have solved one half of the puzzle.
>You have solved 5 quarters of the puzzle.
>You have solved one 96th of the puzzle.

>> No.6475485

>>6475446
I wish the goals were a bit more "diverse" (I hate that word). What about finding and bringing different artifacts somewhere(to complete a mechanism or activate something) or finding and killing a specific monster...anything but flipping a dozen switches on 5 different maps.

>> No.6475513

>>6475485
Thats a fair point. The scripting system in Hexen is pretty extensive, there are a lot of possibilities for creative puzzles.
Hexen 2 has more interesting puzzles (practically no switch hunting) but many people find it equally confusing if not moreso.

>> No.6475525

>>6475427
I knew how but I forget, wait around for a thief thread or start one and I am sure an anon will help.

>> No.6475553

>>6475427
some user rights thing maybe? try moving the whole folder around or creating the cache folder yourself. could be antivirus too (fmsel works from a dll)

>> No.6475567

>>6474738
Open Fortress is cool but when I check it it has a few hundred people playing at best, TF2 is always in the tens of thousands of players.

>> No.6475568
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6475568

Is blacked out missing texture something that modern ports do or was it always like this? I thought it's supposed to produce different kind of fuckery.

>> No.6475569

>>6474715
"Advanced" chasecam I wrote for LTG, but standalone: https://marisakirisa.me/tmp/chasecam_m.pk3

Still needs improvement, but works. I just need to wrestle Graf for that P_AimCamera scriptification.

>> No.6475573

>>6475568
Hall of mirror effect? Nah, that's in the original due to how things were originally rendered.

>> No.6475576

>>6475568
that's a fucked up linedef most likely

>> No.6475579

>>6475573
No the Tutti-Fruity Effect

>> No.6475583
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6475583

of course they send xaser's finest to come gank me

>> No.6475585

>>6475583
Why is there a tower this tall?

>> No.6475589

>>6475583
What the hell is this?

>> No.6475590

>>6474561
So uh... where is this new level? I wandered around the hub for over 5 min and didnt see it anywhere

>> No.6475591

>>6475576
It's a linedef with missing upper texture, that's all. I was just curious if it was always handled like this.

>> No.6475618

>>6475579
Same for that

>> No.6475623

>>6474895
I loved it as a kid but I'm afraid of revisiting it and finding out it's a lot worse than I remember. I think that was the first time I saw the ability to purchase upgrades for weapons in a FPS, and IIRC it even changed the model, I thought that was very cool.

>> No.6475628
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6475628

i wouldn't alarm you but i think it's has you in it's sight.

>>6475585
>Why is there a tower this tall?
russians are imaginative.

>>6475589
colorful hell is full of shit like this

>> No.6475631
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6475631

>>6474717
So is that like, 15 levels total or 15 levels in addition to however many levels are in the EA version up to that point?

>> No.6475632

Is there any reason why having a sector of negative height (Floor higher than ceiling) is bad?

>> No.6475671

>>6475632
Probably won't render correctly. Probably won't be able to traverse it.

>> No.6475680

>>6475671
It's not supposed to be traversable. It's supposed to be a very tall patform that lowers and lowers for a long time until it opens a pit where you can drop and exit the level - I don't want players to be able to instantly run for exit during the final confrontation. Seems to be working fine but I wonder about possible issues.

>> No.6475687

>>6475583
Thats one spooky caco

>> No.6475697

>>6475680
I guess just try it out in various situations and see what happens.

>> No.6475702

>>6475628
oh look, it's the sphere of exsanguination

>> No.6475708

>>6475240
BASED

>> No.6475718
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6475718

>>6474863
Doom 64 was supposed to have a new demon (also theorized to have been a new design for the Arch-vile) that looked like a Giger inspired woman humanoid but it was scrapped.

>> No.6475730

Playthrough video of map17 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EuHUFjP8eto

>> No.6475753

>>6475585
Not a bad megawad idea. Big fat tower. Get to the top!
Going Up

>> No.6475767

>>6475753
Is it possible to draw skyline in such a way that it would actually look like you are getting higher and higher?

>> No.6475783

>>6475718
>"Give me a hug, mortal"

>> No.6475790

>>6475783
I don't want to.

>> No.6475791

>>6475783
I would.

>> No.6475808
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6475808

>>6475718
>>6475783

>> No.6475829

>>6475173
Akeldama is getting close to an idgames release.

>> No.6475834

Doom 2 > System Shock

>> No.6475848

>>6475834
can i get a "hell yeah brother"

>> No.6475852

What is your favourite fast-paced fun music and what is your favourite spooky atmospheric music from Doom?

>> No.6475859

>>6475783
yes, mistress

>> No.6475874

>>6472301
Doom, Doom 2 Heretic or Hexen, but in most levels you have different missions which change the course of the game as you either succeed or fail them.

>> No.6475919
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6475919

>Angery

>> No.6475930

>>6475767
Anything is possible with trickery.

>> No.6475957

>>6475919
Try it with RetroShader

>> No.6475981

>>6474630
>More obtuse than Hexen
Eh, I think Hexen was still worse about it. The hub system makes it incredibly easy to lose track of things, IMO.
I'd also argue that only a handful of maps in Eternal Doom were actually Hexen tier with the switch hunting. Some were more inline with the kind of puzzles found in TNT and Icarus, in that they were more contained within the area. And plenty of levels were simply nothing more than just requiring secrets for progression.

>> No.6475991

>>6475783
no way korax

>> No.6476019

>>6475783
no more hugs, will

>> No.6476021

>>6475957
>blurshit
no thanks

>> No.6476037

>>6476019
YOU OWE ME, MORTAL

>> No.6476041

>>6475783
O-Ok.....

>> No.6476072
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6476072

>>6475783

>> No.6476152
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6476152

>>6472301
What are your absolute favorite meme/cheesy/just plain good transcribed MIDIs that put a smile on your face?

Trying to gather a full WAD's worth of them so I can load it when I feel like fucking around. Got these 14 so far.

>> No.6476162

>>6474839
compare and contrast the first levels of both. In Quake 2 you get a shotgun almost immediately, gibbing cyborgs and drones while Hiro is in a swamp fighting pests. Both have great music tho

>> No.6476194

>>6476152
SMaNS is ultra memeworthy
Bring Me to Life is pretty good but kind of cheesy
Danger zone is cheesy
Night of Fire is excellent
Here's another good one, unfortunately it's 24 minutes long (because it's echoes, duh) http://www.sortmusic.com/_p/pink-floyd-midi-file,tiEchoes,len.html
KoD has some good originals namely "Fight to the End" http://www.angelfire.com/punk4/knightriderofdoom/midis/KoD-Fight_to_the_end.mid

>> No.6476247
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6476247

So I need help with something that maybe one of you guys would be willing to help me on

Working away from home so all I have is my phone, I am really wanting to listen to this interview with Romero at work tonight (Like two hours long) but I cannot find any site that will actually rip the audio to mp3, it just gives an error. I know it's asking a lot but if one of you lads would be willing to do it and put it up here for me that would be awesome. Gotta sleep for a few hours before work and don't have time to fuck with it anymore

https://youtu.be/cDQ2tqyp8KE

Sorry to ask such boomer ass shit boys

>> No.6476275

>>6476247
Does it have to be mp3 or is any audio format fine?

>> No.6476291

>>6476275
Anything I can play on my android phone, yeah

>> No.6476305

I will say though even if i shit on the dude making the third person melee mods for doom i think its a neat idea. I like the idea of DMC but doom the thing is the enemies would have to be changed significantly

>> No.6476309
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6476309

>>6476247
sure anon no problem, here you go
https://mega.nz/file/a8U3jI5C#Jynoa70t0qW-xUoMfePuBi2-RlpuExm43gu9BoU_g_U

For the future, this thing can do exactly what you wanted
https://youtube-dl.org/
I just copypasted the URL there and it gave me the audio real quick

>> No.6476337

>>6476247
>>6476291
A tad too late, but if you don't want to bother with mega here it is: https://files.catbox.moe/77vvpy.mp3

>> No.6476351
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6476351

still no good angled Doom Eternal Plasma Rifle sprite

>> No.6476450

>>6476351
then fuckin make one

>> No.6476472
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6476472

>>6476450

>> No.6476487

What are some good reasons to not finish a megawad?

>> No.6476494

>>6476487
"I don't feel like playing this anymore."

>> No.6476505

>>6476487
When you've reached a point where you are not enjoying it. Simple as that.

>> No.6476512

>>6476487
slaughtershit

>> No.6476514

>>6476487
When ADHD kicks in and forces you to do something else and never return to it.

>> No.6476572

>>6476351
There's one in zdoom forums' general sprite thread, but it's the microwave beam version and there's only two sprites

>> No.6476614

>>6476512
get filtered

>> No.6476635

>>6476614
Maybe the creator should learn how to make engaging maps

>> No.6476643

>>6476635
They did. You just got filtered.

>> No.6476649

>>6476487
When it stops treating me like a baby, and becomes too much for little ol' me :(

>> No.6476684
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6476684

Guys I can't believe it, I was playing Doom and I just reached E1M7, and there's so many enemies >.< There's almost 200! I didn't remember Doom being so slaughter!! What happened, why couldn't they just be reasonable and keep E1M1 enemy counts? This is absurd!

>> No.6476727

Should a novice mapper concentrate on making maps for Doom 1 first, and then move on to Doom 2?

Or should you start with all the options your disposal?

>> No.6476730

>>6476684
>slaughtershit means high enemy count
Based retard

>> No.6476751

>>6476730
Slaughter is when I die in a map. I don't like dying. I'm good at game. If I die, map is bad.

>> No.6476752

>>6476649
>over 30
>video games
>treated like a baby
There's a problem here.

>> No.6476754

>>6476751
Yes.

>> No.6476760

>>6474863
>>6474870
>>6474893
>>6475718
Are you guys all forgetting that the Spider Mastermind is canonically a she? It says so in the manual. It's why people call her spider momma.

>> No.6476793

>>6476727
you can make garbage fights with both, but it's easier to make fun fights with doom 2, so go doom 2
if you want doom 1's textures, there's a pack on realm667 for that, but it might be zdoom-only (if it uses TX_START/TX_END or TEXTURES, it's zdoom-only)

>> No.6476798

>>6476793
>zdoom-only
nah, I'll pass, but thanks for the heads-up

>> No.6476904

>>6476798
I said it might be
having checked, it isn't

>> No.6476914
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6476914

How come you fuckers never told me about Experiencing Nirvana? This is an excellent shitpost WAD.

While most of the maps focus on shitpost gimmicks, I like that MAP17 just indulges to the highest degree and just puts 164,662 zambies in a big-ass room. It absolutely dwarves Holy Hell Revealed's ~42,000, or Okuplok's measly ~23,000. Are there any other high-enemy-count (above 20k) WADs out there?

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6476942

>>6476309
>>6476337
Just got up to get ready to head out and checked back, thank you lads! You made my night.

Also I will bookmark that one, I must've tried 5 or 6 and they all gave me some weird error

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>>6475569
neat. this woulda made testing sprite rotations a lot easier.

>> No.6477176

>>6476760
Oh fuck you're right, I completely forgot about Spiderdemon. Kinda goes to show how bad of a boss she is.

>> No.6477184
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6477184

If Pistol Start is the TRUE WAY TO PLAY DOOM™
why does E3M1 has a secret with the Rocket Launcher available onlly after you practically finished it?

>> No.6477218

>>6476798
You realize you can just extract Doom's textures and put them into 2, right?

>> No.6477263

>>6477184
Because secrets are fun, and also because levels can be balanced with both pistol start and continuous play in mind.

>> No.6477270

>>6477184
Believe it or not, Doom has the ability to both play pistol start and play continuously. And balancing maps around making both valid playstyles is actually very common.

>> No.6477272

>>6477184
You always pistol start when you begin a new episode. It's just an extra challenge, which can be fun sometimes, especially for the first game. They wanted to make sure each level was at least completable from a pistol start, since if you restart a level rather than loading a save, you lose everything.

>> No.6477292

>>6477184
Thing is, it's very hard to not design map for pistol starts. When you are testing your levels during editing, you always pistol-starting.

>> No.6477304

>>6477184
On the other hand, how do you explain Spider Mastermind being a pushover for BFG if you were supposed to bring it from the previous levels.

>> No.6477305
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6477305

Does Arcane Dimensions have a story? I don't mind if it doesn't, but it'd be nice to have even just the excuse of gathering the runs to stop Quake with all the flavor text therein.

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6477306

>>6468443
Witchaven definitely has potential, now that melee mechanics has come a long way since the 90's.

>> No.6477319

>>6477304
big exposed fleshy brain goes hurrr

>> No.6477320

>>6477304
> implying she isn't a pushover with the plasma that the map gives you

>> No.6477326

>>6477320
You can't one-shot her with plasma. It's been a while since I played Doom 1 though, gonna need to re-play it at some point.

>> No.6477327

>>6477304
Even without the BFG, the mastermind is a pushover. Level has blue armour and a plasma rifle, and going the left route for ammo will pretty much guarantee the mastermind to infight with the cacos or baron.

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6477329

I just found out there's a way to re-draw player arrow with vectors.
Is there any sort of graphic software that allows to easily do that
Or convert lines into coords ZDoom can use?

>> No.6477353

>>6477326
Plasma won't one-shot, but its the second most effective weapon in the game against the bosses.
Tower of Babel isn't too hard, either. But it at least forced you to use rockets on the Cyber if you pistol started, which had the potential to be dangerous thanks to all the roaming lost souls

>> No.6477361

>>6477353
Arent rockets one of the less useful options for the cyberdemon? I heard they do less damage.

>> No.6477369

>>6477361
>>6477353
BOSS monsters (Both mastermind and cybie) are immune to radial explosions, so only direct hit of the rocket deals damage to them (20-160), which is 128 less than if they did

>> No.6477405

What code present in a mod can prevent EasyKey/CheatKey vector maparrows from being drawn at all? Apparently Final Doomer does that and I can't find a way to cancel that effect - re-establishing Maparrows in MAPINFO does not work.

>> No.6477478

>>6477326
Doesn't she get perma flinched by the continuous fire?

>> No.6477494

>>6477184
A small addition to justify continuous play.

>> No.6477523

>>6477184
The fact that pistol starting is only really possible with cheats/console commands indicates that no, pistol start is not the proper way to play. It was meant to be a punishment for dying, but it's an awkward holdover from the past, which is irrelevant in the era of freely saved games, and also doesn't quite make sense - if player is doing poorly, making the same challenge harder is not a sensible response.

Nowadays pistol starting is treated as an extra challenge players do for fun and balance is getting more tight.

>> No.6477526

Talking about pistol starts, why didn't Romero rework his old maps to be pistol start friendly?

>> No.6477559

>>6477526
Because it's not an intended way to play and he didn't gave a fuck about elitist snob bitches?

>> No.6477570

>>6477184
Because it's in fact designed to be playable both ways.

>> No.6477573

>>6477405
Anyone?

>> No.6477576

>>6477305
It doesn't, as far as I know, but I guess just assume that you're gathering the runes because it's better that you do it than that Shub-Niggurath or her associates do.

>> No.6477585

How in the fuck do i run this mappack with Yamagi Quake 2? Everything i've tried doesn't seem to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkeTc4pf5q0

>> No.6477597

>>6477585
Use Single Quake Launcher brainlet

>> No.6477606

>>6477597
Thanks anon i wish i knew about this earlier
Now i can frag in peace without using my peanut brain

>> No.6477630

>>6477526
His old maps are pistol start friendly, though?

>> No.6477638

>>6477361
This is true, and exactly why I think Tower of Babel at least tried to be a challenge.

>> No.6477653

>>6477523
>if player is doing poorly, making the same challenge harder is not a sensible response.
I more like to see it as keeping powerful items such as Rocket/Cell weapons, Green/Blue Armor, and/or Backpacks as a reward for playing well.

>> No.6477659

>>6475632
It's not bad. Never had any issue caused by it even in vanilla levels.

>> No.6477661

>>6475173
Kama Sutra

>> No.6477674

>>6477184
Pistol starting wasn't the "intended" way to play. Levels were designed that way so you couldn't possibly get stuck on a bad save and need to restart an episode.

>> No.6477702

is gzdoom too resource intensive? i try just getting mods that run with zdoom because the former feels 'laggy' and heats my computer,unless older versions of gzdoom are fine?

>> No.6477719

>>6477702
IIRC framerate is uncapped by default, meaning your computer will strain to output as many frames as physically possible. Fluctuations between 500 fps and 1000fps can be perceived as lag.

It may also be that your computer only supports very old OpenGL versions, in which case you should try using LZDoom instead of GZDoom. (it uses an older GZDoom renderer version but is otherwise much more up to date). Do try to cap the framerate to your monitors refresh rate first though.

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>>6477719
sorry for the dumb question but how does one change the framecap in newer GZdoom?

>> No.6477736

>>6474519
>>6472501
Too much late but here you go https://mega.nz/folder/xSxilKjB#u3FV2WgfZJm25y0757pMOg

>>6475173
Crimson canyon, but it only consist of 12 levels or somewhat close to that

>> No.6477739 [DELETED] 

>>6477726
cl_capfps 60 through console, button ~

>> No.6477747

>>6477726
vid_maxfps 60 through console, button ~

>> No.6477750

>>6477739
>>6477747
WHICH ONE IS IT

>> No.6477761

>>6477750
vid_maxfps

>> No.6477808

>>6477750
cl_capfps only receives 0 or 1 as values and is only intended for proper framerate capping right to the game timer i.e. making it vanilla 35fps as it was originally in 1993

>> No.6477864

>>6477526
...Huh?
Are you stupid or somethin'?
All of Romero's maps were designed with pistol starts in mind

>> No.6477868

>>6477559
Anon are you dumb?

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>>6477750
much obliged

>> No.6477884

>>6475590
Upper zone, it's snowy

>> No.6477892

>>6474823
basically the first few levels of marathon have the ship's AI telling you how to fight the aliens, pretty basic
what the game does not tell you is the other AIs that were supposedly destroyed are still online; one has gone insane and the other has defected to the aliens; the insane one has plans - big plans, and you're going to help him whether you like it or not

>> No.6477894

>people complain wrath will only have 15 levels
But isnt each level huge? Like on average 400 enemies or something? That doesnt seem too bad

>> No.6477897

>>6474851
OwO

>> No.6477901

>>6475115
[NO]

>> No.6477905

>>6476487
transgalactic chaingun snipers

>> No.6477912

Can Graf be stopped or is it only a matter of time until he takes over?

>> No.6477917

How do I protect monsters hiding in the pits from the infinite tall explosions? Do I need to make distance to the next wall >= blast radius or having a floor in the way would suffice?

>> No.6477932

>>6477912
What do you even mean by this anon. You make him sound like some sort of supervillain. He's just a german programmer whose online persona is a cartoon chicken.

>> No.6477943

>>6477932
He took over Doom and is in the process of taking over Build games now. What's next? Can we even stop him?

>> No.6477946

>>6477943
Is Graf forcing you at gunpoint to play GZDoom and Raze and whatever else? You know you can just, you know, use other source ports

>> No.6477947
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6477947

does anyone know if "r_novis 1" affects enemy behavior in Q1?
is there a way to check?

>> No.6477948

Is it just me or does the Fava Beans WAD (the E1 replacement from 94) really suck?

Even its E1M1 leaves a bad taste in the mouth

>> No.6477953

>>6477947
>r_novis 1
It's a renderer option
It has no capability of affecting enemy logic since rendering and monster logic are completely separate and don't interact in any way

>> No.6477956

>>6477943
What graf is doing is giving people what they want better than any other engine showrunner in the community. (shoutout to the SRB2 devs though, they're doing some cool shit even if it's not for Doom per se)

>> No.6477963

>>6477948
Nah, it's pretty good, and especially impressive for '95. I'd say it has the same quality as the og KDID episode.

>> No.6477981

>>6477702
>resource intensive
You'll be fine as long as your rig can do Vulkan. Everyone is in trouble without it. Runs like shit without a ton of tweaking and tinkering and even then it jitters and gets wonky.

>> No.6477985

>>6477953
that's what I thought, but is it safe to assume line of sight checks don't depend on this at all?

>> No.6477995

>>6477956
>What graf is doing is giving people what they want
"the filters I personally like should be on by default"
"optimization is pointless, just get a better computer to play a source port of a 30 year old game"
"resolution options should be removed"
"time to take a massive dump on the fonts and force it on the users"
"I see your mod recommends using an earlier version that isn't fucking garbage, gzdoom is my perfect masterpiece the newest version is always the best version, time to delete your forum posts :)"
"[NO]"

>> No.6477996

>>6477946
>>6477956
See? This is the kind of response is the problem I'm talking about. It's all normalized. He's doing whatever he wants and no one takes issue with.

I guess it's too late now.

>> No.6478003

>>6477996
It stems from complacency and a lack of options. You want to play the latest mods? Fuck you, play the newst versions of GZDoom and you better have a high end rig or prepare to eat shit.

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>>6477905
ERGHH EHHH

>> No.6478024

>>6477943
>He took over Doom
I remember well the day he retroactively deleted everything Boom and Vanilla, and forced us all to play with Brutal Doom.

>> No.6478026

>>6477996
What is it that you want to hear?

>> No.6478029

>>6477996
>>6478003
I don't understand what it is that you want
You know that Crispy, PR/GLBoom+, Zandro, ZDoom and all those exist still right? You can just play those. Do you want to start you own source port for gameplay mods with blackjack and hookers whose mission statement will be: don't have texture filtering on by default?

>> No.6478034

>>6477985
Sight checks are independeent of renderer either

>> No.6478036

>>6478029
He wants everything to run everything with the help of magic.

>> No.6478037

>>6478029
Like I said, the problem is newer mods are using the latest and fanciest versions of GZdoom, you can't run it? You're outta luck with those mods.

>> No.6478042

Here's an idea for a universally useful mod, for any code wizzard willing to try:

Some visual effect to be applied universally to any harmful floor, regardless of its texture.
My idea initially - make upward going "evaporating" particles, with either color or density being an indicator of just how much hurtful the floor is.
IDK if it is possible to match a particle color to the main color of the texture that is not dependent on a databas e of textures.
Optionally - add popping "boiling" bubbles (from Heretic/Hexen lava with recolors) to the surface of known liquids if said liquid is damaging.
Another option - apply some sort of special easily identifiable glow to the texture? I'm not sure on how well that will work/look.

>> No.6478046

>>6478037
Okay so don't play the mods for the source port you don't like? Or go beg the mod author to magically make their ZScript mod work without ZScript? Or play mods made with DeHacked? Or go make your own source port with blackjack and hookers with your own version of ZScript and convince your favorite modders to use it instead?

This is like some console wars shit

>> No.6478049

>>6478042
All of this already exists.

>> No.6478050

>>6478049
Where?
Link or didn't happen.

>> No.6478053

>>6478050
You do it. I don't need that. Doomworld and ZDoom forums.

>> No.6478054

>>6478046
You're not getting this, anon. Some people can't run newer versions of GZDoom, and they're locked out from playing stuff like Golden Souls 3 and Treasure Tech.
The Devs aren't about to back down from using the latest bells and whistles either, most of that shit is too conveinent for them.
You're getting awfully defensive and snippy over all this, settle down.

And I'm already answering this problem in my own way, I make my mods compatible with older versions of GZDoom and Zandronum, and it's a pain in the ass, but it's worth it at the end of the day, because more people can run my shit.

>> No.6478058

>>6478037
Well, yes? The codebase keeps developing, and newer mods keep taking advantages of new features and concepts which weren't possible to do in the past.
That's just how it is, why is that bad?

>> No.6478060

>>6478054
>Defensive
Anon I have no horse in this race, I play WADs in GLBoom+ and just look over at the freak show happening at the other side of the fence for a laugh sometimes

Convince more modders to make stuff for older GZDoom or Zandro, then. You just kind of answered your own question.

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>>6478054
Kegan, is that you?

>> No.6478064

>>6478053
its not there
an universal mod that applies
special visual effect
to any harmful floor
doesen't exist
which is why I ask
do you have reading
comprehension
issues?
there, ill separate
it into bitesize
portions you can
understand

>> No.6478069

>>6478054
>You're getting awfully defensive and snippy
Something like this comes up at least once per month. If anything it's frustrating and tiresome. You'll just have to do something about it yourself.

>> No.6478070

>>6478034
alright thanks

>> No.6478071

Is the 'wrath of chronos' mod for hexen too complicated to use or i am just a brainlet? most stuff i use is 'modify weapons/map/enemies' not a skill system

>> No.6478072

>>6478054
>Some people can't run newer versions of GZDoom, and they're locked out from playing stuff like Golden Souls 3 and Treasure Tech.
Some people couldn't run Quake because they didn't have a good enough computer. I'm sorry, but that's just development.

If you want it, there's LZDoom.

>> No.6478073

>>6478060
That's not gonna happen, I've spoke with a few of those guys, and they're not about to drop the more powerful engine features. It just sucks when I hear about people who can't play new mods because of their hardware.

>>6478061
Am I that readable?

>> No.6478074

>>6478064
>I WANT EVERYTHING IN ONE PACKAGE
Well you're not getting it.

>> No.6478079

>>6478072
Aren't they slowly but surely updating LZDoom to keep up with GZDoom's stuff? I can't recall, if that's the case, then it's not all bad, it means people toasters just have to wait longer to play newer mods, but they eventually get that option.

>> No.6478080

>>6478073
So why not use your clout and name recognition to go to ZDoom forums and convince everyone that Graf should focus more on optimization for lower end hardware

>> No.6478084

>>6478080
I don't have that much influence, anon. Gameplay modders are small fry in the grand scheme of things. Besides, I don't like the idea that a person has to have some kinda stupid internet big boy points to be listened to.

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>>6478073
Well, if it's really you, you're the only modder I know who posts in this here thread and also makes Zandro-compatible mods.

>> No.6478091

>>6478074
no I want at least something in whatever package

>> No.6478097

>>6478085
There's gotta be someone else too.
Right?

>> No.6478101

>manual prologue to Marathon revealed Durandal is rampant.
Kinda weird in game its more of a reveal

>> No.6478104

>>6478073
You're taking a big risk coming out of your anonimity like that, Kegan. What if someone snitches on you and sends screencaps to graf of you talking shit

You know there's petty people like that

>> No.6478105

>>6478091
It's something like 10 years worth of posts and I don't remember what all of those projects are called. But it does exist. Like I said. Dig and you'll find all of it, if the links aren't dead by now.

>> No.6478112

>>6478104
It's not even shit-talking, anon. It just sucks to see the engine's requirements go up so much. I understand that's the nature of the beast but it always bums me out to see people get locked outta shit.
Besides, even if it did happen, I'd just fess up and say "Yeah, I don't like how much this engine is pushing hardware, but I know that's just how it is."

It's one of the reasons why I'm ready to be done with doom modding, and one of the reasons why I'm pushing so hard to finish my stuff up and be done with it, so I can move on. Though this is getting way too much into stupid community talk and not about doom. I don't like that either.

>> No.6478115

>>6478112
and besides, LZDoom exists, and there are modders that try to keep the compatibility for that.

>> No.6478116

>>6478105
I already looked
your memory fails you

>> No.6478119

>>6478115
retard question,whats the difference of gzdoom and lzdoom?

>> No.6478123

>>6478119
Lzdoom runs on a earlier version of Opengl that gzdoom used to run on, it was made for people who have older hardware that didn't support Opengl 3.3

>> No.6478127

>>6478123
ahh so its a inbetween gzdoom and zdoom? sounds perfect for me in that case

>> No.6478132

>>6478127
It has it's own liberties just to make it a little bit to stand out like having a new difficulty setting, but outside of that i don't think it has anything else, from what i've seen.

>> No.6478137

>>6478112
Actually you know what? Fuck it, fuck Graf. He's a stupid fucking piece of shit. Send him a screencap, I don't care.

>> No.6478140

>>6478116
Nope. Some of those things are baked into graphics overhaul mods, some are standalone, some are tech demos that someone else decided to improve on and so on. I'm not saying it'll be an easy job.

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>>6478137
That's not very nice of you anon to just pretend to be me.

>> No.6478146

>>6478137
Hi sarias.

>> No.6478151
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6478151

What would the gaming landscape be like if Serious Sam came out in 1998?

>> No.6478160

>>6477894
You can fit the entirety of quake's episode 1 in their latest level. People compaining that it has only 15 levels are fucking retarded.

>> No.6478162

>>6478141
Kegan here, this isn't me, I did say that.

>> No.6478163

>>6478151
Cancelled Sam/Duke crossover. Thanks, Randy.

>> No.6478167

>>6478162
>>6478141
>>6478137
>>6478054
>>6478073
Will the real Kegan please stand up
please stand up
please stand up

>> No.6478168

>>6478167
I don't know who is Kegan but I'm pretty sure I am him.

>> No.6478169

>>6478151
The same? Half Life had a bigger impact

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>>6478167
Can any kegan tell me what color is this shirt?

>> No.6478172

>>6478167
I'm Spartacus!

>> No.6478173

>>6478167
It's me and I said Graf is a ratfuck motherfucker rotten son of a bitch.

>> No.6478175

>>6478169
>>6478151
I don't think it had any impact, in the big picture. It did inspire some crappy copycats such as Poonisher, but that's it.

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>>6478167
Hello.

>>6478171
yellow?

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6478185

>>6478175
Kegan was never here to begin with.

>> No.6478186

>>6478171
it's fireblue

>> No.6478190

Misquote. Guess I'll die now.

>> No.6478194

>>6478183
thats wrong
it's lightiest green i had in paint.net
so yeah hi kegan, how is that SMG of yours going?

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6478197

>>6478194
God dammit. Fine I guess. I've got all of the tedious shit of making the barrels pop out and animate, I'm putting them in game right now.

>> No.6478198

Just want to say that Kegan is a stupid motherfucker and GZDoom is fantastic.

>> No.6478207

GZDoom is complete garbage.

>> No.6478213

>>6478104
I really don't think Graf cares about what Kegan thinks.

>> No.6478216

I just want to say Graf is very handsome, that is all

>> No.6478224

Have you guys heard of a mod called Brutal Doom? It's pretty cool lol

>> No.6478227

I want a earth defence force game with retro fps playable characters.

>> No.6478232

I'm gonna sue Bethesda for stealing all my ideas in Doom 2016

>> No.6478234

>metropolitan cities in Texas don't have random arrows in the ground telling people where they need to go

Seriously, what the fuck is with that?

>> No.6478238

>>6478183
that looks terrible

>> No.6478240

>>6478213
Lilith debacle proves that Graf can get his knickers in twist over the littlest things. And I don't think he will be happy about the fact that prominent member of modding community was talking shit about his work on anonymous imageboard.

>> No.6478241

>>6478238
Good thing you've got another 3 classes to choose from, or you could just play another mod.

>> No.6478242

>>6478234
>>6478224
>>6478207
SHUT THE FUCK UP

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6478245

>>6478207
>Our initial appraisal of the Atari Jaguar was "nice system, but Atari probably can't make it a success". But when I got the technical documentation of the Jag, I was VERY impressed. This is the system I want to see become an industry standard!

>> No.6478246

>>6478241
I meant that stupid triangle effect
looks very out of place

>> No.6478248

>>6478246
What else would you prepose for a set of three orbiting projectiles that block shit?

>> No.6478251

>>6478245
Was he wrong? Wolfenstein 3D on the Jaguar is based

>> No.6478253

>Track is called "Into Sandy's City"
>Doesn't play over any city map
Explain this, eggheads.

>> No.6478259

And 64-bit (or whatever the Jag really is) did become the standard. John, you son of a bitch.

>> No.6478260

>>6478253
Well for one, you're not considering my definition of what a city is.

>> No.6478267

>>6478253
>track is called "Between levels"
>it is played on MAP04

>> No.6478270

>>6478253
Sandy actually chose the level orders, at least in Doom. Not sure if that included which music was used on which map but I assume Bobby wrote it based on the Sandy's "city" maps in progress and it was put on a different map later for whatever reason

>> No.6478274

I have no strong opinions on Graf one way or the other.

>> No.6478275

So I recently beat System Shock 1 for the first time, and beat 2 a second time. I fell in love with the first one but didn't enjoy the second as much as my first time, I think my biggest grip with it is everything that comes after the Command Deck, while the first one is consistently good all around (except maybe the final boss in cyberspace).

And I I feel dumb for not liking the SS1 soundtrack at first, that menu theme is probably the only bad one because the rest is fucking amazing and sets the mood really well for the game.

>> No.6478279

>>6478260
Yes, Sandy. Cities ARE pits full of demons. Very astute.

>> No.6478280

>>6478275
SS2 was not supposed to be a System Shock game. They just kind of slapped Shodan on it near release and called it a day.

>> No.6478281

>>6478267
>Track is called "Nobody told me about Id"
>Bobby Prince was well aware of Id Software

>> No.6478286

>>6478248
I meant the ones that appear when shot connects with the monster

>> No.6478289

>>6478279
social commentary

>> No.6478290
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6478290

You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt, a flood of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect. I feel both disappointment and flattery these thoughts would originate from another player who has demonstrated one of a kind talent and has accomplished the impossible, yet is apparently immune from judgement owing to their reputation, do not think your words hold more credibility just because of who you are, being more well known and what you have accomplished in breaking world records and setting ones never previously accomplished, such as with TNT and Plutonia Nightmare.

>> No.6478293

>>6478286
You're the first person I've had who doesn't like the hitsparks.

>> No.6478295

>>6478290
lol

>> No.6478298

>>6478280
Yeah I read about that after beating the game, Shodan and how they link this game to the first one feels shoehorned in.

>> No.6478308

>>6478275
>my biggest grip with it is everything that comes after the Command Deck
would things make more sense if I told you that Command, Ops and Rickenbacker were made by Irrational, while the rest of the levels were by Looking Glass?
as for the SS1 soundtrack, there's at least one straight rip from NIN in there, so that's that

>> No.6478309
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6478309

I heard you guys were talking shit. Like I wouldn't find out.

>> No.6478314

>>6478308
>as for the SS1 soundtrack, there's at least one straight rip from NIN in there, so that's that
so there's at least one shite track?

>> No.6478320

Who's the modder who added the gold tiny revenants to their mod if it was run with brutal doom? Was it Terminus?

>> No.6478321

>>6478308
This cover cranks up the NIN sound https://youtu.be/5cmBjQ7JQkk

>> No.6478325

>>6478320
Yep. With Demonsteele.

>> No.6478326

>>6478308
>would things make more sense if I told you that Command, Ops and Rickenbacker were made by Irrational, while the rest of the levels were by Looking Glass?
Okay that would basically solve the puzzle of how we went from SS2 level design to Bioshock1 level design. And yeah I said after Command but that level shares more design elements with body of the Many and cyberspace than the rest.

Also I never listened to NIN so I couldn't tell which track or tracks were ripped, but I assume those tracks aren't the main theme, cyberspace and security right?

>> No.6478327

>>6478314
>Talking shit about Pretty Hate Machine
Cringe

>> No.6478328

>>6478325
Were you upset about that, Marcos

>> No.6478331

>>6478321
see now this is the shit I would like to hear in the remake instead of what's there now

>> No.6478342
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>>6478293
The ones now are too big and distracting
IMO several white-yellow "scratches" (something like picrelated) or actual particles accelerating diagonally downwards at high speed while fading outy would be much better
take a look at how Metal Slug and Megaman Zero did this for examples

>> No.6478349

>>6478342
I'll consider it. I got a lot of other work to do first.

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>> No.6478360

>>6478293
I wouldn't go as far as to say it looks terrible, it doesn't, but it does feel a bit out of place.

>> No.6478367

>>6478071
Yeah I find it a bit bloated with all the extra abilities and levelling up. If you want a Hexen gameplay mod you can try Walpurgis.

>> No.6478369

>>6478360
Guess that's the problem with wanting to try something different. I'll look into making a different hitspark later.

>> No.6478376

https://youtu.be/JSCeXY7sB6M

Kinda wanting to make some more videos like this, but I'm wondering if there's a better method on another source port. I'm using the viddump option from prboom and then just changing the camera mode and moving quickly to a good position. Is there a way to pause demo playback somewhere else?

>> No.6478378

>>6478369
The idea is good, honestly. But I guess it's way too big and distracting? I think if it was smaller it'd work better.

>> No.6478405

>>6478097
Me.
But I suck at releasing things.
So I will never be relevant. ._,

>> No.6478425

>>6478085
If I'm working with Decorate, it's technically Zandybam compat, right?

>> No.6478428

>>6475631
15 levels total (3 hubs x 5 levels per hub)

>> No.6478439

>>6478308
>would things make more sense if I told you that Command, Ops and Rickenbacker were made by Irrational, while the rest of the levels were by Looking Glass?
Sauce on this? I want be sure I'm pointing the right fingers at the people who made the Rick a clusterfuck and the dumb keycard hunt in Ops.

>> No.6478440

>>6478425
Not quite. There are some DECORATE functions that aren't available in Zandronum.

>> No.6478442

>>6478425
Not every DECORATE feature is supported by Zandro.

>> No.6478443

>>6478425
Very much not. Final Doomer and DoomRLA are both Decorate, yet they both don't work with Zandro.

>> No.6478456

>>6475919
What is this??

>> No.6478460

>>6478112
It's not fun when people are locked out of playing mods made for a specific engine, but let's look at the facts: GZdoom is heavier than other sourceports, but anyone with a computer made in the last decade can run it.

If you can't run the version of OpenGL that new Gzdoom uses, it means that your hardware is so old that it's basically a miracle it can run anything at all.

>> No.6478462
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>>6478439
pic related. I left out engineering, apparently.
of note is Josh Randall not being listed under audio despite being the most memorable thing about it, so I wouldn't take these credits as gospel truth either

a bonus fact: iirc the Shodan sequence was done by Levine personally, source is LGS podcast series I think

>> No.6478470

>>6478309
what the fuck was his problem?

>> No.6478484

>>6473301
Cool! Thanks anon.

>> No.6478509
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>>6477996
>He's doing whatever he wants
Oh no, someone's doing whatever they want with open source code?! Oh, won't somebody please stop this heinous evildoer!

>> No.6478517
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I swear this had a remake already

>> No.6478520
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>>6478378
Smaller I can do, how's that? I need to add one extra frame of these completely disintegrating too. Also got the ramping fire rate implemented for the SMG, now I just need to decide if I want it to be hitscan or projectile.

>> No.6478524

>>6478517
It's prolly a rerelase of the original game.

>> No.6478530

>>6478517
>>6478524
The remake ended on a cliffhanger, so who knows.

>> No.6478542

>>6478484
If you end up using it, please let me know if you have problems with it or if it breaks somehow. It was also kind of an exercise in bash scripting for me so there's probably a lot of improvements to be made.

Or even if there are any features you'd like that are missing

>> No.6478545

>>6478520
I think it would look better if every hit the arrow pointed at a different direction at random. Otherwise it looks asymmetric.

>> No.6478558

>>6478517
I'd bet it's a nightdive port since kaiser was working on one.

>> No.6478564

>>6478545
It is random, actually. I just got shit dicerolls there.

>> No.6478567

>>6478440
>>6478442
>>6478443
What the fuck? Why is it so fucking behind?

>> No.6478574
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6478574

The other day I had a pretty bad idea, and now I realized this bad idea and recorded it.

>> No.6478601

>>6478574
brainlet here, how do you do this
and how would you do the same thing but with HoM walls instead?

>> No.6478602

>>6478517
>>6478558
ROTTEX becoming official seems the most likely.

>> No.6478609
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>>6478601
>brainlet here, how do you do this
Soild wall surrpunded by sky-ceiling low sector. It can also be improved somewhat by having high floor on sky-ceiling sector.
>and how would you do the same thing but with HoM walls instead?
Not sure. With something untextured probably. Crispy Doom seems to just black out if it can't do deep water.

>> No.6478617

>>6478602
Oh god yes

>> No.6478628

>>6478617
Considering they have the source code already, it should probably work out pretty well. Wouldn't mind having it on console either, if only to get the Japanese to try it, they would probably like it for how weird and arcade heavy it is.

>> No.6478630

>>6478567
probably has something to do with it being made with multiplayer in mind
having constant updates and nightlies might fuck up some popular mods, and if people are using different versions of the port, then there'd be major issues trying to connect to anything

but then again, 3.0, the last major update, came out almost three years ago, so maybe it wouldn't hurt to have some more releases

>> No.6478635

>>6478630
Hasn't Decorate been basically complete for like 5 years now or so?

>> No.6478636

>>6478517
Oh fuck yes I hope they do an official remaster of the original, all the source ports suck.

Fuck anything to do with the janky as fuck remake.

>> No.6478639

>>6478517
Does George Broussard still run Apogee/3D Realms? I know Pitchford bought the Duke franchise but he didn't buy the whole company did he?

>> No.6478641

>>6478639
Broussard left a long time ago. Scott Miller runs things.

>> No.6478643

>>6478639
3DR the original company died. This new company is just Frederick Schreiber using the 3DR name.

>> No.6478645

>>6478641
Did he sell his part of the company to Miller or just retire or something?

>> No.6478652

>>6478641
That's probably for the better.

>> No.6478656

>>6478635
I'd assume so, since the Big New Thing™ for GZD is ZScript
I don't keep up with Zandro development, so I don't know too much about the process
they probably have their own niche community drama that looks stupid on the outside

>> No.6478672

>>6478656
They inherited all of Skulltag's baggage, except for Rachael.

>> No.6478684

>>6478520
That's much better.

>> No.6478708

>>6478672
I know that Z& is just a continuation of Skulltag, but it still feels different somehow.

>> No.6478717

>>6478672
What's the deal between ZDaemon and Z& anyway? Any drama there or did each of them just do their own thing?

And by Rachael do you mean the Zdoom forums webmaster or someone else?

>> No.6478723

>>6478708
skulltag added a bunch of new enemies, items, and modes that spruced up the game
even if it was unofficial, it still felt like team arena or UT in a way: a multiplayer expansion pack to a popular game
the content isn’t included with zandronum for copyright reasons, but it can still be downloaded and used in a server
problem is, almost no server uses it, so all you’ll be getting is whodunit/8bdm/lca

also, skulltag is a much cooler name

>> No.6478732

>>6478717
The one.

>> No.6478749

>>6478723
The new weapons and monsters in Skulltag were a little bit dubious desu (mostly just palette swaps with more health and doing more damage), but it had lots of good levels ready to go for multiplayer, which was the real high quality content it had to offer.

Zandronum should definitely catch up to the complete Decorate codebase if anything (at least for the close future), and then set sights on some good levels to package with the port, levels which are well suited to respective base game modes.

>> No.6478753

>>6478749
>Zandronum should definitely catch up
Isn't the project dead?

Or is someone actually forking it and picking up the development, like Graf and company are doing with PRBoom+ ?

>> No.6478771

>>6478717
ZDaemon was forked off of ZDoom when there was no Decorate yet, hence no mod support.
Skulltag was made to rectify that - a ZDoom with client-server multiplayer AND mods. Then it's lead dev left, and Zandronum was made to succeed it.

>>6478753
It's not dead, but porting ZScript support over all the changes Z& itself made is not as simple and the people working on it now just couldn't care less about it so the progres on that front is slow.

>> No.6478785

>>6478520
Is this the nailgun? It looked better with the oscillating barrels.

>> No.6478787

>>6478785
It's not gonna be a nailgun when I'm done. I hated that old sprite and how it worked.

>> No.6478794

>>6478717
The two ports focused more on different things
ZDaemon went for competitive matches while Z& went towards mods

>> No.6478797

>ZDaemon is closed source because muh security through obscurity
>Windows-only

into the trash it goes

>> No.6478819

>>6478797
I thought the closed-sourceness was for some sort of anticheat thing
But yeah, it's a strange idea to make an online port and only have it work on Windows, even stranger to allow servers on Linux but not the actual program. Well, at least there's Odamex

>> No.6478821

Playthrough video of map18 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li4eJsCqZhM

>> No.6478823

>>6478172
No, I'M Spartacus!

>> No.6478834

>>6478819
Odamex? Ah, you mean ghost town.

>> No.6478843

>>6478834
Hey man, if decino can get hundreds of players into one of its servers, I can hope that it isn't abandoned.

>> No.6478850

Dimensions of the Past and its instant death traps can go fuck themselves.

>> No.6478868

Speaking of death traps, is telefragging a stack of barrels the best way to make a linedef of death that isn't on MAP30 where telefragging player is enabled?

>> No.6478889

>>6478819
>closed-sourceness was for some sort of anticheat thing
Exactly, that is what I'm talking about with "security through obscurity". They claim they can make it safer if the code is closed, but this is not actually the case. You can have anti-cheat without making the code closed source.

>> No.6478912

>>6478636
the only thing fuckable in the remake is Lorelei Ni

>> No.6478919
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Based, Randy.

>> No.6478921

>>6478919
I hate cops, but fuck, the tweet is so cringe just because it's Randy.

>> No.6478925

>>6478919
Cool twitter cap, you should take it to /v/ instead

>> No.6478931

>>6478921
Cringe post.

>> No.6478937

Someone reuploaded Juggernaut on Moddb
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/juggernautthe-new-story-for-quake-ii

>> No.6478941

>>6478919
Someone should make a mod that replaces all enemies with Randy

>> No.6478948

>>6478919
>dude ACAB now buy my thing fellow tweeters
>World Tour
>Cyanide and Happiness OC
he'll never learn, we'll always yearn (for Duke)

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>>6478941
https://www.moddb.com/mods/randy-pitchfork

>> No.6479021

https://youtu.be/hAh2fUo9W3M
Gameplay mod when?

>> No.6479023

How rare is the clipping bug where doomguy turns into a ghost? I've been playing alien vendetta and it's happened to me twice.

>> No.6479042

>>6479021
>entire weapon set is energy weapons

>> No.6479073

>>6479042
Ha. Best hope you don't discover what a Rebel Moon is, anon.

>> No.6479084

>>6478275
kys

>> No.6479094

>>6479021
You’re one of two people on this site I’ve ever seen mention Clutch
I wonder if there are any MIDI renditions of theirs

>> No.6479097

>>6479084
based fuck ss1fags.

>> No.6479118
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>>6479094
That means there's at least three of us, then.
>HUD facepic replacement

>> No.6479120

>>6479094
Ive been a clutch fan since i was a young lad. Im always glad to find more clutch fans. One of the last true rock bands

>> No.6479121

>>6479097
Based? Based on what?

>> No.6479130

>>6479094
>>6479120
I've only ever known Clutch for Electric Worry cus of L4D2.
I still have no idea what that name even means

>> No.6479136

>>6479130
Clutch lyics are just weird as fuck

>> No.6479140

>>6479130
For me it was Impetus in one of the THPS games. Heard it again years later when replaying the series and went "holy shit, it's that band!" Electric Worry is definitely popular though, I also remember it from the L4D commercial.

>>6479136
They make great map names, though.

>> No.6479146

>>6478037
Good thing most mapsets don't require GZDoom at all.

>> No.6479148

>>6479140
Clutchs popularity is so weird. Theyve been in huge things like L4D2 and The Walking Dead but theyve never exploded.

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>>6479146
Thank god for that. If a map requires (G)ZDoom I usually just skip it

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>> No.6479283

Jesus fuck doom eternal is boring.

>> No.6479287

>>6479283
So why are you playing it? You were surely warned multiple times that they're terrible puzzle WADs

>> No.6479374

>>6479287
>DUDE I CAN'T FIND THE EXIT IN 15 MINUTES IT'S A PUZZLE KEYCARD HUNT WAD LOL LMAO
go back to your slaughtermaps you spatialet faggot

>> No.6479381
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6479381

So is this it? have we found the spectrum of Doom players?

On one end
>"the slaughter fags" - fighting is everything
- can dodge cyberdemon rockets like they're nothing
- die of boredom if they haven't killed a demon in 2 seconds

And on the other
> "the puzzle fags" - exploration is everything
- will power through a 2 hour map solving switch puzzles that make hexen look like child's play
- panic if they see anything more powerful than a pinkie

with everyone else at varying degrees in the middle?

>> No.6479386

>>6479381
I like shooting guys and puzzles but I dont like shooting too many guys and I dont want uncharted the wad

>> No.6479389

>>6479386
So yes, you're smack in the middle of the spectrum

I think may be onto something here

>> No.6479398

>>6479381
i like quake

>> No.6479403

>>6479381
If you look at it purely from this perspective of two facets of the game, yes

>> No.6479405

is there no way to bind two weapons to the same key in prboom? in crispy doom if I have the ssg and I press 3 it equips it, and if I press it while the ssg is out I equip the sg.

>> No.6479425

>>6479381
I just want to look at pretty pictures and Doom has a lot of those, surprisingly enough.

>> No.6479428

>>6479405
Uuuh, that happens by default in PRB anon. There's an option that says "hotkeys double for weapons" or something like that

>> No.6479430

>>6479405
uh, it works the same way in prboom.

>> No.6479434

>>6479428
>>6479430
>uh
uh yourselves fags

>> No.6479452

>>6479428
>>6479430
uhh I'm a retard. disregard.

>> No.6479456

>>6479452
uh, no problem anon

>> No.6479460

>>6479434
uh, breaker one nine we got a jimmy left shoe on the turnpike

>> No.6479467

>>6479460
uh, Ill have an imp-burger with extra pickles and onions, large archie fries and uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh a large caco-cola

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>>6472302

DBP24 trailer released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4rmaWofQP4

>> No.6479495

>>6479467
I'll take a double triple BOSSy deluxe, on a map, four by four straferunning style, extra sectors with a shimmy and a squeeze, light fatso grease, make it die, burn it, and let it frag.

>> No.6479505

>>6479475
>0:15
Is that the map that joe-ilya made for udino?

>> No.6479527
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6479527

>>6479505

Yup. Retextured and tweaked a bit. He's a spazz sometimes but he doesn't mean anything by it (usually).

>> No.6479562
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6479562

Hey it's Screenshot Saturday, I think. So here's the progress on the map. Circular arena that was demanded a few days ago will be there soon. Brown area on the right is still in the works, as is the white hallway on the bottom right.

I still fucking hate elevators.

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6479575

My map looks incomprehensible in builder.

>>6479562
What's wrong with the elevators?

>> No.6479582

>>6479575
i hate mapping them, that's all.

>> No.6479590

>>6479582
But elevators are really easy to map?

>> No.6479624

New thread
>>6479618
>>6479618
>>6479618

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