/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.644774]

Any holy grail games you just dislike?
this is mine. I bought this ten years ago because it got hyped as fuck and jesus, this is one of the most boring games I have ever touched. I played it. For a good bit and I kept waiting for it to pick up but nah...

[Anonymous No.644808]

>>644774

It has the single best storyline I've ever seen in a game. The graphics are good. The characters are likable. The music is great.

However, the gameplay can grow old. It takes about 90s to complete and, eventually, I just want to move on and do something else. I've played it numerous times, beginning in 2001, and I've only ever completed it twice.

[Anonymous No.644821]

>>644808

Also, if I had to pick one video game character to be "mai waifu," it would be Meredia.

[Anonymous No.644868]

I honestly just don't like RTS/TBS games at all. Sometimes I forget, and I'll try and play FFT or Front Mission or something. Then I remember that this shit is boring and I go play something I actually enjoy.

I still tell everyone I love Tactics so that they think I'm cool

[OP No.644929]

>>644868
Same here.
Everytime I've tried. I'm like "Alright time to get cozy and play some...oh yeah..." and turn it back off. I WISH I liked it I really really do.

[Anonymous No.644991]

>>644774
I had kind of the same feeling out of the march of the black queen, shit was boring as hell.

[Anonymous No.645226]

>>644774

I love this fucking game, so much. I have like 4 or 5 complete files, 50-80 hours each. I've never played anything else where the battles felt truly as large scale as this, but still holding on to individuality of the characters.

It can be pretty damn slow and unengaging, but I think that's a big part of it. You're playing as the general of an army. It's all about set-up, you shouldn't have precise control over every little skirmish.

I mean, yeah, you have to be pretty autistic to enjoy just sitting in the menu and setting up your battalion for an hour at a time between battles. It's a totally unique game though, and to me it's better than any TRPG.

[Anonymous No.645237]

>>645226
I agree, I liked it much more than any regular turn based strategy RPG.

Too bad the Battle series won't be expanded upon and refined. People just like their turn based strategy too much.

[Anonymous No.645246]

>>644774
Almost every over priced RPG is this for me

[Anonymous No.645285]

>>645226
It gets to the point that my ranks are mostly zombies and I turn it off.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>644774
You uh...looking to sell it? I'm emulating and would love to have the real thing but holy shit this thing is cah-razy on ebay.

[Anonymous No.645352]

You're probably playing it wrong, OP.

Did you create 3 units of 2 dragons + a rare unit leader? The game isn't boring when you're leading a dragon legion and slaying everything that moves.

[Anonymous No.645363]

>>645285
45 bucks a cart is crazy? For a game that was barely in stores?

[Anonymous No.645365]

>>645352
>The game isn't boring when you make it so easy that you kill everything

[Anonymous No.645378]

>>645363
I'm not him, but I think collectors and not-collectors have very different levels of what they're willing to pay for old video games.

[Anonymous No.645397]

>>645285
Op, here.
You know what? I just might. Lord knows I'm not playing it and I'm not a collector really. I know there's someone out there that would actually ENJOY owning this so maybe I will.

I've got to dig it out of wherever I've got it stored though so I might not even find it

[Anonymous No.645429]

hate it

[Anonymous No.645440]

>>645429
FFT is a holy grail? It had a shitload of GH copies made in the early '00s

[Anonymous No.645474]

I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.645502]

>>645474

[Anonymous No.645504]

I guess it's dead horse beating but the Mother series.
I don't find them charming at all and since even the fans say that there isn't any other reason to play them...

[Anonymous No.645508]

>>645474
I simply cannot squeeze an ounce of enjoyment from Baulder's Gate.

[Anonymous No.645525]

>>645474
You know,I just started playing this again and I just don't find it appealing anymore. I used to enjoy it but now I feel like the interface is fighting me more than the anything in this game.

[Anonymous No.645523]

>>644774
I loved this game when I was younger. Would spend like 4+ hours a day playing it for weeks until I beat it.

But I am an adult now and don't have that child-autism that many of us possess when we are younger. I tried playing it again a few years ago and turned it off during the first battle.

[Anonymous No.645524]

>>645237

That's ok. I don't really have the attention span for it these days either way. I'm happy with it occupying the little corner of history that it does.

>>645285

Yeah zombies are garbage...you should always revive everyone before you finish the level.

TBH I think it's the sort of game that's better if you use a FAQ. Maybe not for the battles, but to outline what all the classes are, what the monsters are, where the rare items are, etc. It's most fun when you get the rare/unique classes. Not to mention the terribly obscure factor that decides which ending you get.

[Anonymous No.645536]

>>645440
I'm sure they mean a game that's generally accepted as an amazing game that everyone should enjoy..

Not rare.

[OP No.645546]

>>645536
Yeah maybe Sacred Cow or something rather than Holy Grail

[Anonymous No.645572]

>>645429
I wouldn't say I hated it, but I think it's pretty overrated. and it has the most convoluted, boring, incomprehensible mess of a story in any vidya I've ever played

[Anonymous No.645578]

>>645572
You should try playing Breath of Fire 2. The official English translation is a complete mess

[Anonymous No.645581]

>>645572
That's because the story is recycled from the Ogre series (as in the OP) that its based on. Ogre games all have convoluted and incredibly boring and uncreative stories.

[Anonymous No.645616]

>>645525
>interface
It's... not good. The inventory especially is just terrible, and they did little to fix it in the sequel. Scroll through everything you have to find one item, ammo splits differently depending on type, # cap is at 999 for some reason, 0's look like 8's, wtf

Great game though. My main complaint with it is how small it actually is. There isn't a whole lot to do, really.

[Anonymous No.645684]

>>645578
I have, and loved it.

[Anonymous No.645962]

>>645581
>Warring nations, back stabbing, alliance changing
>Ancient evil has awakened and nothing before mattered.

[Anonymous No.646006]

Fire Emblem IV, I really love the series but I just don't like this game one bit, the maps are way too fucking big, the story really isn't that interesting and the game is pathetically easy to break by the second gen.

I wouldn't say I hate, I just don't particularly understand the praise.

[Anonymous No.646450]

This. I don't understand how anybody squeezes enjoyment out of it. It's like a gimped JRPG meets gimped rail shooter. Got through the second CD and then I just stopped it.

[Anonymous No.646458]

>>644774
OB64 is by no means a holy grail. What the hell are you talking about? Only the original Ogre Battle is actually respected. OB64 was made without Yasumi Matsuno's involvement, and, although it's a nice game, nobody cares about it all that much.

[Anonymous No.646469]

>>646458
I believe that OB64 was much better received in general than the SNES original.

[Anonymous No.646474]

>>646450
Panzer Dragoon Anything is just abysmal as far as i'm concerned

[Anonymous No.646484]

Final fantasy 7. The random encounters just bug the hell out of me, along with the extremely repetitive music. I can understand why people love the game though.

[Anonymous No.646486]

>>646450
How the plebeian mind works.. I will never know or understand.

Shame it wasn't more like CoD with dragons, yes?

[Anonymous No.646489]

Metroid. All of them.

[Anonymous No.646492]

[Anonymous No.646501]

>>646486
>A-am I trolling yet?

>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.646505]

>>646486
>>>/v/
Funnny that you mention it, since PDS was more CoD-like than most JRPGs. So, you know, you can just fuck off.

[Anonymous No.646510]

>>646450
It's was a stunning RPGS at the time, with many features which are still unique today. The flying sections I think still work well, but the on foot sections don't. Like many 90's 3D games, time has not been kind.

[Anonymous No.646545]

>>646510
It feels way too shallow and substanceless for an RPG. It might be unique, but it doesn't seem to do its thing very well. The flight sections would be more enjoyable if only you didn't have to face random encounters every 5 seconds and had anywhere to fly to, other than the tightly gripping linear canyons and small "open" fields where again there's little of interest outside of the obvious main path.

[Anonymous No.646998]

FYI, anons, if you play it with an emulator you can use your mouse as the cursor. It makes the game a bit better.

I still hate chasing down the fleeing enemy unit though.

[Anonymous No.648837]

>>646492
you posting this kinda bugs me as it was a game that really kept me playing.

[Anonymous No.648847]

>>646469
That is untrue. OB is consedered one of the best games ever in Moonland, while nobody even mentions OB64.

[Anonymous No.648858]

>>646492
why!?

[Anonymous No.648927]

>>648858

I just find the whole thing boring. The game world is ugly and uninviting, and feels like a chore to explore. The story and characters not very engaging either (Majora's Mask is better in that regard). I also like to post it in threads like this semi-trollishly, because I think it might be the most overrated game ever.

[Anonymous No.648961]

>>648927
>The game world is ugly and uninviting, and feels like a chore to explore.

it really isn't. so sad you didn't like it.

[Anonymous No.648993]

>>648961
This is the part where you two have to accept that what you are facing is a difference in opinion and stop before the thread turns to shit.

[Anonymous No.648996]

Earthbound/Mother 3. Both of them don't feel like games to me, they feel like books. Which is fine, but I don't really care for the story, either. And the battle system is tedious and boring, even with Mother 3's music gimmick.

It's weird though, because I adore Earthbound Zero (Mother, whatever you want to call it). Battle system is still tedious and boring, though.

[Anonymous No.649031]

>>648961
>so sad you didn't like it.

You don't have to tell me. I was super hyped for that game. Big fan of the first two. Never played the third, because I didn't have a Super Nintendo, but I always thought it looked like the greatest game ever. Played through OoT, and then kind of forgot about it until everyone started raving about how it's the best game of all time. Considered playing through it again, but realized there is nothing about that game I find particularly enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.649084]

>>648996
>Earthbound/Mother 3. Both of them don't feel like games to me, they feel like books. Which is fine, but I don't really care for the story, either. And the battle system is tedious and boring, even with Mother 3's music gimmick.
That's something you could say about a lot of JRPGs though.

[Anonymous No.649090]

[Anonymous No.649091]

Chrono Trigger.
I love JRPG's more than life itself but for some reason I just couldn't get into it.

[Anonymous No.649092]

>>649031
You're not the only one, if that makes you feel any better. Zelda just doesn't translate well to 3d.

[Anonymous No.649110]

>>646492
>Am I fitting in yet?

[Anonymous No.649120]

>>649084
True, but most of the other JRPGs I like have a more engaging battle system or a story that doesn't feel so...constrained? I'm not sure how to put it.

[Anonymous No.649123]

>>649110
>not accepting others' opinions
get out

[Anonymous No.649132]

>>649110
Fitting in with who?

[Anonymous No.649134]

>>649092
>Zelda doesn't translate well to 3D
>It's the same as it's always been, just with polygons now.

[Anonymous No.649142]

>>649110

Wait, what? Are you saying I'm claiming to not like OoT to fit in? Or that I shouldn't say I dislike the game because then I won't fit in?

[Anonymous No.649143]

>>649091
I've never made it more than 5 hours into CT. I was so hyped for it when it came out. Spent hours looking at the same magazine articles about it, over and over, just waiting. The characters and plot just don't compell me at all.

[Anonymous No.649153]

>>645474
Same here. First Fallout i played was Fallout 3. Felt like such a chore to explore and talk and do all these things i didnt give a shit about. Then I hear how much better the first two were so I got those, but its just too much time wasting on exploring/talking and all that. I just dont care anymore. When I was younger id play rpgs all day and one summer i think i did nothing but play Star Control 2. Maybe im just getting old, i dont have the time to invest in these sort of games

[Anonymous No.649163]

>>649134
Exactly. They could have kept it 2d so the controls wouldn't blow if they weren't going to change anything.

[Anonymous No.649167]

>>649142
He's upset someone doesn't like his favorite game.

[Anonymous No.649170]

I love how /vr/ is a bunch of aging faggots that aren't into certain kinds of games anymore due to being jaded, just like me.

[Anonymous No.649172]

>>649170
I love how you're projecting REALLY hard.

[Anonymous No.649186]

>>648993
calm your tits, asshat. we are not /v/.

[Anonymous No.649184]

>>649170
Being jaded=/=games being jaded.

[Anonymous No.649198]

>>648847
>OB is consedered one of the best games ever in Moonland
Then why is it so sluggish, boring and its mechanics so fundamentally flawed?

[Anonymous No.649218]

>>649198
You're wrong, but that's not the point. We were talking about reception, not quality of gamplay. Ogre Battle (SNES) is considered amazing, Ogre Batle 64 not so much.

[Anonymous No.649392]

>>645508

this. same goes for neverwinter nights.

[Anonymous No.649402]

>>645508
>>649392

I'm really fighting with myself at this points so I don't throw insults at you

[Anonymous No.651728]

>>644774
You are wrong and a piece of shit for disliking this game. Please promptly end your life and remove your failure and taint from the human collective.

[Anonymous No.651851]

>>651728
You should calm down.

[Anonymous No.651946]

>>651728

3edgy5me

[Anonymous No.652026]

>>646006
You just have shit taste in games.

[Anonymous No.652028]

>>652026
Nope; just differing opinions.

[Anonymous No.652035]

>>651728

[Anonymous No.652036]

>>652026

and you make shit posts.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.652043]

Not really a holy grail but it seems to be highly loved here and I haven't been enjoying it that much.

[Anonymous No.652058]

>>646489
Even the Prime games?!?!?!??!

[Anonymous No.652148]

>>652058
I can't stand the Prime games. Loved the old ones and imported the game along with a Freeloader disc, but gameplay changes made me abandon the thing after few hours of play due to being such a huge disappointment.

Maybe I misjudged the game? I've been thinking of going back and trying it out again for years, because Wind Waker also pissed me off enough that I didn't touch it for five years after release, and it turned out to be fun in the end.

[Anonymous No.652537]

>>651728
>/v/ being /v/

[Anonymous No.652551]

Mario Land 2

I had some fun with it on certain levels but I finished it in 2 hours because it was depressingly easy and a lot of the levels felt bland to me

[Anonymous No.652560]

>>652551
I agree. it's really average.

[Anonymous No.652587]

>people talk of it like it's the second coming of Christ

No. Just no. This game is NOT good. People try to act like it's so original but I just could NOT play through more than two levels without wanting to take a nap.

Let's hope System Shock 2 lives up to the hype. It's kinda failing...

[Anonymous No.652592]

>>652587
what didn't you like about it?

[Anonymous No.652594]

>>645474
I personally hate random encounters. Over years it grew into some obsession, now I can't play it, because there will be random encounters.

[Anonymous No.652598]

>>652592
Just how slow it feels. I don't know. My first FPS was DOOM, and I grew up reading about this in gaming magazines, thinking it would be so cool to play this. But after my first time my high expectations were dashed.

[Anonymous No.652608]

>>644774
Zelda series

They are good games, but beside minish cap, I don't like them.

[Anonymous No.652615]

>>652587
Yeah, I kinda agree with this. After playing for the first 3/4 hours of each I'm enjoying Invisible War a lot more. It may have more technical issues, but feels better ... Structured? I think that's the right word. It feels like i'm playing through a story, rather than a sequence of events.
I dunno, I should probably play a bit further, but it's really boring so far.

[Anonymous No.652620]

>>652615
>After playing for the first 3/4 hours of each I'm enjoying Invisible War a lot more.
I've identified your problem: you're clinically insane. Seek help.

[Anonymous No.652626]

>>652587
>No. Just no. This game is NOT good.

this should be good.

> something vague about the game being boring.

that's what i thought.

[Anonymous No.652630]

>>652626
some people don't like the same things as you man

[Anonymous No.652636]

>>652626
I'm guessing you didn't read the OP's post. Also...
>opinions

[Anonymous No.652652]

>>652630

obviously. and he could have said he didn't like it and that would be fine. but he said "No. Just no. This game is NOT good." as if those of us who think it is are dead wrong. and that would be fine too if he had some substantial criticism. instead it was, like i said, something vague about the game being boring.

[Anonymous No.652665]

>>652620
I was expecting this. But IW seems to be the more entertaining game so far.
I'm going to play the original a bit more, but it just feels really slow and dull. The crap voice acting doesn't seem to be helping much either.

[Anonymous No.652678]

>>652652
>as if those of us who think it is are dead wrong
Well you inferred that from what I said. I just didn't like how SLOW it felt. Felt like the first level took me a half-hour just to get into the building. Add a finicky inventory system and I just got tired of putting up with it.

Please don't go into /v/-mode and tell me all the reasons why I'm wrong. It's just the way I feel about the game...

[Anonymous No.652693]

>>652598
It's not supposed to be a fast paced game. No stealth game ever has been fast paced.

[Anonymous No.652705]

>>652678
>Well you inferred that from what I said.

how could it possibly be taken any other way? i don't care if you like the game or not, it was the way you said it i reacted to.

[Anonymous No.652709]

>>652693
So it's supposed to be a stealth game? The way the tutorial made it out to be, you could either:
>stealth
>guns blazing
>hack

[Anonymous No.652713]

>>652709
Kind of, yeah. Part of the appeal of the game is that you can play it in the style you want to. But stealth pretty much is what the game does best.

[Anonymous No.652718]

>>652705
Fair enough. It still doesn't change my opinion.

[Anonymous No.652725]

>>652709
you can do the other stuff but the game rewards stealth more than the other 2

[Anonymous No.652739]

>>652709
You can but enemies aren't going to pick up in their numbers or difficulty until later on the the game.
I disagree with that anon that it's a stealth based game, that's just one of the ways you can enjoy the game. If you're looking for action you may like it better when you have to infiltrate entire bases filled with soldiers, super soliders, giant mechs and the like.

[Anonymous No.652764]

>>646492
I never played it as a kid (I had a playstation) so it never hooked me, I've tried it on emulators but having played later zelda games in the series before it nothing really stood out for me. It was like I'd already played the game but with better graphics.

[Anonymous No.652776]

Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Planetscape, those type of games.

I'll never say they're bad games, but I can't get into them.

[Anonymous No.652804]

>>652776

i love rpgs, but the typical fantasy (bg, nn) setting/stories doesn't interest me much. planescape is much more original though. i like that one.

[Anonymous No.652826]

>>652804
I like an RPG here and there too but it's something about those games. I mean, I'll sit down and get ready to play them but the moment I hear the opening dialog/cinematic I go "oh, it's Dungeons and Dragons again. Okay." and lose interest quickly. Plus getting lost is easy as hell.

Planetscape was interesting. It was a lot to process all in an hour and it probably the one I was prepared to play the longest. In the end, I just couldn't get into exploring it.

[Anonymous No.652840]

This piece of shit right here. I tried, I really did. I even finished it and never did I understand why rpg fans like this one. Was it the fact that you can make your own weapons? I don't know, maybe it was just me. I grew up playing Commodore and later on PC games so that was not such a big deal for me, but I can understand it was on the consoles.

It sure as hell was not the story or the characters which were boring as all hell.

[Anonymous No.652851]

[Anonymous No.652856]

>>652851
>Quest 64
>holy grail

[Anonymous No.652886]

>>652840
I think it was both the crafting system and the battle system. The way it handled the whole "timed hits" aka QTE approach was pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.652898]

>>652840
This otherwise amazing game's main problem is that one can play it wrong and still finish it.

Have you used long chains to inflict damage? If you ever used repeated chains (i.e., not a single chain per boss), you've been playing it wrong.

It's a game about micromanagement. It's one of the best of it's kind. Too bad you can finish it without ever knowing.

[Anonymous No.653189]

>>651851
You should calm down. Clearly I was very calm and articulate.

[Anonymous No.654278]

>>652840
>Calling VS a pos.
I don't usually get angry on /vr/ but you just got me close to trading.

[Anonymous No.654280]

>>654278
Raging*

[Anonymous No.654331]

Zelda OoT - I was impressed but I was not entertained. That game is so much more boring than every game before or after it, I kind of get why it's loved loved though. It didn't really offend it's just SOooOO "meh"

Earthbound - Don't like the art style, not charmed by the characters and not entertained by the story. I feel like an alien who cannot relate to other humans when people talk about it being so great because I just CANNOT see it.