/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6440853]

This is the worst Megoomi Tansei

[Anonymous No.6441438]

Never played it, why?

[Anonymous No.6441521]

What makes it so bad compared to the first two Shin MegaTen games?

[Anonymous No.6441546]

>>6440853
Nah, Ronde is the worst.

[Anonymous No.6441570]

>>6440853
It's still an okay game. I tried to warn you fuckers that when the translation finally came out you would be let down.

[Anonymous No.6441574]

>>6440853
Great movie with Malcom McDowell though.

[Anonymous No.6441595]

>>6441570
Isn't this game just proto-Persona?

[Anonymous No.6441596]

>>6441595
As in it starred a bunch of high school kids.

[Anonymous No.6441614]

>>6441595
Very, very slightly. In terms of gameplay, characters do get persona-esque abilities, but only by dying, and it's a huge pain in the ass that you have virtually no control over. The game has 4 different "routes," but they basically just dictate how many dungeons you play: additionally, some of the dungeons are just painfully tedious, such as the one where you have to keep walking back and forth from the entrance and the deepest part for hours.

It's an ambitious and interesting game, but ultimately if you don't LOVE it and replay it 3 extra times, you're gonna see maybe 30% of what it has to offer.

[Anonymous No.6442265]

>>6441595
>>6441596
Tamaki from SMT if appears in persona 1 and 2 as well, so it's kinda connected in that way. The Kuzunoha detective agency also appears in Persona 2 which I guess ties it to devil summoner?

[Anonymous No.6442424]

Kyuuyaku is based though

[Anonymous No.6442435]

>>6441595
Persona is proto-Persona. This is just a smaller scale SMT.

[Anonymous No.6442452]

[Anonymous No.6443453]

[Anonymous No.6443458]

>>6440853
I don't know how I was able to beat both games on KMT and both SMT 1 and 2 but for some reason couldn't be assed to beat SMT If...

[Anonymous No.6443853]

>>6441546
Oh man i completely forget about that one
>>6441438
It has the worst dungeon on the series

[Anonymous No.6443895]

>first-person dungeons
gas the whole series pre-Nocturne

[Anonymous No.6443902]

>>6443895
Fuck off zoomer

[Anonymous No.6443918]

>>6443895
Fuck off zoomer.

[Anonymous No.6443946]

>>6443918
>>6443902
>Zoomer
this one is straight up shit taste, first person dungeon crawler still exist.
stop parroting -oomer at everything like a stupid nigger.

[Anonymous No.6443959]

>>6443895
SMT 2 is actually the best SMT game though.

[Anonymous No.6444039]

>>6443946
>he doesn't think zoomers overwhelmingly shit on first person dungeon crawlers
The only reason you would have to be mad at "shut the fuck up zoomer" is if you are one, to which I say shut the fuck up zoomer.

[Anonymous No.6444164]

>>6444039
nice argument retard, just keep using zoomer,coomer,boomer for everything.
>>he doesn't think zoomers overwhelmingly shit on first person dungeon crawlers
yes, i dont think so, persona has 2 modern first person dungeon crawlers, strange journey got a remaster and dont forget all those etrian odyssey games.

[Anonymous No.6444462]

>>6444164
t. zoomer

[Anonymous No.6444468]

>>6440853
That's not Strange Journey.

[Anonymous No.6444617]

>>6444468

[Anonymous No.6444638]

>>6444164
Yes those hugely popular games that easily break a whole 1000 copies sold and are definitely not considered niche beyond niche. Shut the fuck up zoomer.

[Anonymous No.6444639]

>>6440853
That's because it's a Persona game.

[Anonymous No.6444686]

>>6443895
shut the fuck up retard

[Anonymous No.6444751]

This is the best Mayguhmee Toonsay

[Anonymous No.6444831]

>>6444638
yes, all those series full of sequels and remasters never sells, i think atlus have a fetish for losing money.

[Anonymous No.6444840]

>>6443902

im in my 30s and first person dungeon crawlers are before my time.

[Anonymous No.6444881]

>>6440853
I've played the PSX version of this game and here's what I have to say that's positive about it. I like how there's no world map and the game is a bunch of interconnected dungeons with the school acting as the hub world. In a high budget game that probably would've been expanded upon but oh well, it has a nice charm to it. Also, when you die you don't actually lose progress since dying is a part of progression tied with Guardians. You can never can lose saved progress unless you quit the game without saving, in essence, dying doesn't send you back to your last save but rather the beginning of a dungeon, you just have to make sure you've gotten enough experience to receive a more powerful guardian before dying otherwise you'll get demoted. It's an interesting mechanic. Other than that, it's pretty standard dungeon crawling affair, Soul Hackers for me perfected the classic SMT dungeon crawling formula by having cool interesting dungeons and layouts.
Also the "routes" in this game are pretty meaningless, Reiko is your best bet if you want to experience all of what the game has to offer, then there's also the Akira mode or whatever.

[Anonymous No.6445634]

>>6444751
agree
>>6444840
fuck off

[Anonymous No.6448029]

>>6441546
with majin tensei

[Anonymous No.6448039]

>>6443895
I think you mean gas all Atlus games post-Nocturne

[Anonymous No.6448042]

>>6441546
Nope

[Anonymous No.6448043]

>>6444881
not with Shinji?

[Anonymous No.6448085]

>>6443895
zoomer, return from whence you came

[Anonymous No.6448362]

>>6440853
It's weird to see this as it's based on a 1960s film that was actually shot at the public school I went to

[Anonymous No.6448415]

>>6444881
It's a good system in theory but in practice I never got to the point in the game where I could properly utilize it. Sure I can always keep playing but when I'm dying early game and both of my characters just become Mudmen with -5 levels of stats and shit magic I'm just going to reset instead of trying to claw my way out of a hole. I'm sure there's some good middle ground where it isn't Dragon Quest/Pokemon babby crutch and SMT just reset bro.

[Anonymous No.6448441]

>>6443959
I actually really liked SMT1 but haven't been able to get into SMT2. The setting just seems so alien compared to the first and I keep forgetting the passcodes I need.
I'm super early game though and I think I'm at a point where I just need to grind a little for demons to feel competent.

[Anonymous No.6448476]

>>6448441
If you want an easy way to completely and utterly break the game...fusing with humans in the mix lets you bypass the level limit. You can abuse this quite easy with the gaian guys in that one tunnel / sewer system

[Anonymous No.6448489]

>>6448043
Charlie's is better than Yumi's by virtue of not being a gimped version of Reiko's but the different path you go on isn't really much more interesting. You get the best ending with Reiko's though I would prefer if Reiko just kicked Hazama's ass and didn't stay behind with him.

>>6448415
I'll agree with that. The first time I played the game I didn't realize what happened when I had died pretty early on and was running around with mud men, when I had figured out I was getting fucked over I reset. I guess it does kinda defeat the purpose of not losing progress when you die if you're getting fucked in the long term when it's far more easy to reload to a previous point

[Anonymous No.6448498]

>>6448476
Yeah, I know about that trick but I'm not far enough to use it yet. I guess it really is like SMT1 in that the early game is a bit rough but once you have the tools to break it it's easy.
Might try booting it up to put in the time it needs. I'm in the mood for some SMT and I don't really want to go back to if.

[Anonymous No.6448508]

>>6448498
Actually SMT 2, while not hard, does have some challenge in it. So that's not really surprising.
You can't just break the game with zio spam

[Anonymous No.6448534]

>>6448508
Zio wasn't as bad a Charm bullets. I Charmed the final boss on the second turn and he never broke out of it just giving me the fight for free.

[Anonymous No.6450071]

>>6442265
Yeah, the Persona series takes place after SMT if with Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers somewhere around the first two games. The real question is what's going on with the Raidou games since they hint at SMT1 happening in the future as well as Devil Summoner

[Anonymous No.6450078]

>>6443895
Strange Journey is still post-Nocturne. The only game where first person dungeons are truly hell is Persona 1 since it's got absurd mazes instead of anything resembling something comprehensible

[Anonymous No.6451443]

>>6450078
SJ is a game about fetch quests and grinding forma so you can craft weapons that you should really probably just be earning via exploration and hard battles or even just by purchasing them with money, all topped off with one of the worst OSTs I've ever heard in a game.

[Anonymous No.6451473]

>>6451443
>one of the worst OSTs
at first was kinda strange but it grown on me and not i really like it.
i find it nice when they try new things, its probably the most unique OST of all SMTs.

[Anonymous No.6451476]

>>6451473
*now i really like it

[Anonymous No.6451491]

>>6451473
I don't mind that they went somewhere weird with it, but the tracks all sound exactly the same, so I just got sick of it.

[Anonymous No.6451520]

I'm so spoilt by Press Turn that I can't go back.

[Anonymous No.6451851]

>>6451443
>>6451491
You two are worse than this >>6443895 guy. I don't feel safe knowing that two morons who can't appreciate SJ's incredible OST are breathing the same air as me. Go to hell.

[Anonymous No.6452090]

>>6444751
I’m at the part where you get to repeat the same hallway until you get the astronomy questions right. World map music is great though. Dumped all my starting skill points into magic for my MC. THANKS FOR LETTING ME DO THAT, GAME

[Anonymous No.6452105]

>>6451443
>play SJ
>hm, music is okay, it’s not Persona 3 or anything but-
>first battle starts, Fear of God kicks in
>my poor handheld can barely contain the raw power of the greatest battle song ever written
>my voice deepens seven octaves
>my PS3 suddenly has games
>the room starts shaking
>Mastema appears in my room and kills himself
>my entire house levitates seven feet in the air
Yeah it’s pretty good. Fear of God is actually really we’ll made, memes aside, it’s the perfect length that any battles inconsequential enough to skip end during the buildup of the song, and the DUN DUN DUNNNNNN (Dun duun dun dun) part kicks it during what’s usually the second or third turn, meaning the battle’s serious and worthy of the grand part of the song.

[Anonymous No.6452243]

>>6440853
no me

[Anonymous No.6452467]

>>6452090
It's not a complete waste since you do need some magic to equip the Masakado armor.

[Anonymous No.6453371]

>>6440853
Pathetic attempt at bait? Up your ass.

[Anonymous No.6453898]

>>6443902
>>6443918
>>6448085
keep on seething, faggots. First person dungeons suck and you don't have to be a zoomer to realize that. Only obnoxious megatenfags defend that trash.

[Anonymous No.6454395]

>>6453898
Go play fortnite or something