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Anonymous Mon May 18 06:29:15 2020 No.6440584 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw sega never ported sonic cd to the saturn

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 06:30:13 2020 No.6440585 >>6440584 It would have stank of desperation. Is there anything more sickeningly desperate than porting shit from your previous console?

Anonymous Mon May 18 06:34:42 2020 No.6440593
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Yeah it would have been nice to have it on Sonic Jam, but at least we got the better quality intro and ending FMVs on it.
The fate of Sonic CD was that the only proper version is still the original 1993 release.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 06:36:06 2020 No.6440597 >>6440584 Japan doesn't care about sonic, they had their sakura wars and danmakus.

Anonymous Mon May 18 06:41:48 2020 No.6440614

>>6440597
And the Saturn failed everywhere outside of Japan due to the lack of a proper Sonic game. Porting Sonic CD could have helped buy some time during the development of Sonic Xtreme since it was a game a lot of players missed out on. Would have been a pretty short development cycle too considering that the versions of the 3 main games on Sonic Jam were actual ports of the original source code rather than just emulated versions.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 06:43:04 2020 No.6440616 >>6440593 >Yeah it would have been nice to have it on Sonic Jam It would have needed a second disc in that case since the Mega CD version only has like 50Mb to spare on the CD.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 08:07:49 2020 No.6440724 >>6440584 I guess they took pity on us and figured night was punishment enough

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 10:14:27 2020 No.6440930 >>6440724 Imagine not liking the exotic timeless classic that is NiGHTS into dreams...

Anonymous Mon May 18 10:15:13 2020 No.6440931

>>6440585
Considering the amount of people that probably passed on the SEGA CD and 32x, it could've worked as a budget release to hold people over. No idea why they didnt wait until the Saturn to make Knuckles Chaotix when Sonic 3D Blast got an enhanced port with special stages.

Anonymous Mon May 18 10:25:43 2020 No.6440957

>>6440931
Perhaps as a budget release yes - considering the lack of distinct lack of Sonic titles on Saturn it may not have been a bad idea but porting over titles to a successor console of games that had just come out a few short years before would've stunk of desperation as the other anon said and would not have been a good look. "Look at Sega! They gotta put a Sega CD game out on the Saturn because they have no gaems"

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 10:31:26 2020 No.6440969 >>6440593 >The fate of Sonic CD was that the only proper version is still the original 1993 release. What's wrong with the Sonic Gems Collection port?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 10:36:19 2020 No.6440984 >>6440969 It's the inferior 1996 windows port, not the Sega CD original

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 10:52:04 2020 No.6441027 >>6440969 doesn't that one have the gay US music?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 10:53:23 2020 No.6441031 >>6440930 >Imagine not liking Superman 64 for the DC...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 11:00:35 2020 No.6441048 >>6440957 It would have been more like when Nintendo ported games made for the Wii U to the Switch though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 11:01:50 2020 No.6441051 >>6441027 >Spencer Chadsen >gay music

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 11:02:38 2020 No.6441052 >>6441048 Well the Wii U was such an unabashed failure that I don't think people thought ill of them of putting some of those games people missed onto the Switch

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 11:03:24 2020 No.6441056 >>6441052 Just like the Megadrive addons then.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 11:25:26 2020 No.6441110 >>6440584 Or they could've just made Saturn backwards compatible, but I guess Bernie didn't want to create a scenario where people were playing the badwrongfun 2D games on his system.

Anonymous Mon May 18 11:33:39 2020 No.6441136

>>6440616
Hmm, I wonder. It wouldn't really be the same actual game though, since Sonic Jam were ports. They still had some space after porting all the main 4 games, since they did Sonic World and added dozens of videos, not to mention the high quality scans of manuals and also dozens of high quality images.
Maybe with some sacrifices, like compressed audio, and cutting off some of the video/image gallery, they could have fitted Sonic CD in there, not sure. But then if they had to sacrifice too much, to the point of having to take Sonic World out, then yeah I just prefer Sonic Jam the way it is now.
It's kind of neat when you think that you can have the full classic Sonic experience in 2 CDs, Sonic Jam on Saturn, and Sonic CD on Sega CD.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 12:02:29 2020 No.6441205 >>6441110 No they couldn’t have, the Saturn was already retardedly complicated enough without introducing bc for a system with totally different hardware specs

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 23:26:01 2020 No.6442978 Best zones?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 18 23:46:34 2020 No.6442996 >>6440584 WHERE IS THE CAKE EGGMAN

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 04:11:13 2020 No.6443413 >>6440584 They could have call it Sonic Saturn: >Includes Deleted Zone 2 >Enhanced 2D Saturn Graphics >Faster Gameplay >Tails and Knuckles are playable

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 04:22:33 2020 No.6443437 >>6443413 Yeah, it could have been great.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 04:24:30 2020 No.6443440 >>6441136 Sonic Jam was made quite late in the Saturn's lifetime, porting Sonic CD is one of the first things they should have made for the console.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:34:53 2020 No.6444417 >>6440957 yes it's good they let their console prospects continue to die rather than port their most popular game over and potentially be ridiculed online with no games memes 25 years in the future

Anonymous Tue May 19 13:38:11 2020 No.6444430
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What's done is done, what is there to gain from crying about "what if"s?
Let's be happy that Sonic Jam exists as it is, the best Sonic compilation, and that after all, KEGA Fusion is a great emulator.

Anonymous Tue May 19 13:41:01 2020 No.6444438

>>6443413
>>6443437
Sega failed because they were too incompetent, not due to it being fated or some shit. They took every opportunity they were ever given and promptly pissed it down the drain. There were plenty of ways to salvage the Saturn, including this awesome little "What-if?" in this very thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:43:30 2020 No.6444443 >>6444438 Let's be honest man, Sonic CD on Saturn wouldn't have "saved" it. Sega was doomed the moment Sony decided to enter the market.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:44:51 2020 No.6444447 >>6444438 I still can't believe SEGA let Sonic Team work on NiGHTS and Burning Rangers over one Sonic game when the IP was growing super popular in the west.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 13:48:25 2020 No.6444456 >>6444443 >Let's be honest man, Sonic CD on Saturn wouldn't have "saved" it. >Sega was doomed the moment Sony decided to enter the market. There are different values of winning and losing. It isn't a binary state.

Anonymous Tue May 19 13:53:21 2020 No.6444472

>>6444447
The Sonic vs Mario rivalry was still strong, and any Sonic 3D game wouldn't have been able to look good compared to SM64.
Another thing, while the Sonic popularity was going strong, it kind of reached a limit with Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles. From 1991 to 1994, Sega kept shooting new Sonic games. The main games were all great, but the spinoffs were so-so. Unless they managed to do some really incredibly 3D platforming Sonic that trumped Super Mario 64 (unlikely), there was no way another Sonic game that wasn't that good would have grabbed people's attention in the 5th gen days.
Nights was a right move, it was a unique game with unique art style that positioned the Saturn as a dreamy and surreal console, it gave it a personality that I think worked back in the day. Zoomers love to rewrite history and mark Nights as a failed experiment, but it was actually well acclaimed.
The Saturn's ill fate has less to do with what Sonic Team could come up with, and more to do with the fact Sega couldn't compete with the market share that Sony ate.

Anonymous Tue May 19 13:54:49 2020 No.6444474

>>6444456
I agree, I don't even consider Saturn a loser, it's still one of the Big Three of 5th gen after all.
But in the long run, Sega had to step out because they couldn't adapt to the new fierce competition Sony brought to the table.
Sega could survive in a world against Nintendo, another company that also was only centered on video games. But against juggernauts like Sony or Microsoft, the rules changed.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 16:08:08 2020 No.6444981 >>6440584 Just play it on a Gamecube faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 16:13:46 2020 No.6444993 >>6444474 No, Sega could've survived. But not with all the dysfunctional management fuckups. It wouldn't have been easy, but I firmly believe it was doable.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 16:46:05 2020 No.6445116 >>6444474 >it's still one of the Big Three of 5th gen after all You're acting as if there were any other noteworthy consoles. Who the hell unironically gave a shit about the 3DO or the fucking Atari Jaguar?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 17:08:03 2020 No.6445179 >>6445116 I never even even heard of either until I got internet access a few years after they were discontinued.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:25:50 2020 No.6445767 >>6440930 it's easy if you try

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 20:32:07 2020 No.6445780 >>6441031 >>6445767 t. weren't alive in 1996

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 23:17:14 2020 No.6446181 File: 23 KB, 500x333, projecting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6445780

>>	Anonymous Tue May 19 23:19:54 2020 No.6446189 >>6446181 Lazy, and not an argument. You weren't alive in 1996.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 00:50:05 2020 No.6446434 >>6446189 >b-b-but zoomers. lol Back to le reddit kiddo

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 00:53:20 2020 No.6446442 >>6446434 After you go back to tiktok, zoom zoom. You weren't alive back in 1996, fact.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 00:57:47 2020 No.6446449 >>6446442 Okay, you caught me: I'm actually a time-traveling Minoan from roughly 1474 BCE your calendar. I'm here to ask about licensing your Unicode implementation of Linear B for the Queen's daily spinning-wheel proclamations.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 20 07:20:52 2020 No.6447102 >>6446442 >cringe Dear God that's cringe. Someone call the kids mommy. Ze's pissing in the ball pit again.

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