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642692 No.642692 [Reply] [Original]

So I recently got over my fear of using Dosbox thanks in part to D-Fend Reloaded and I'm looking for some recommendations since all I've really been playing so far is Dreamwed, X-Com: Enemy Unknown, and Sam & Max Hit The Road

>> No.642698

>fear of using Dosbox

Why?

>> No.642705

>>642692
There's a few good infographic pictures with dos games on them in /vr/, I don't have them though.

What kind of games do you like?

>> No.642723

Basically any LucasArts, Sierra, Microprose, or Origin stuff.

Caution: Stick to >1990 games if you're too pleb to handle CGA/EGA graphics

>> No.642726
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642726

Pretty much everything worth playing.

>inb4 the staples

>> No.642729

>fear of using Dosbox

what the fuck

>> No.642730

>>642698
Long story short, I tried to get "Mario Is Missing" to work on my old Windows 98 computer by launching it in MS-DOS mode. Ended up royally fucking up the computer and had to get it repaired. It's mostly the command prompt that puts me off

>>642705
Action RPGs, Strategy RPGs, and Shooters. I also don't mind platformers (Jazz Jackrabbit) and point and click adventures (Alone In The Dark), but they're not my favorite

>> No.642734
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>>642692
Cannon Fodder, Syndicate, Syndicate Wars, Hi-Octane (pic related).

>> No.642740

>>642726
>Pretty much everything worth playing

...in the opinion of one tripfag

>> No.642743

>>642730
Well shooters are what I can help with for sure.

Build engine games: Blood, Duke nukem 3d, Shadow warrior, Redneck Rampage (all of these are on gog.com for cheap)

Doom 1 & 2, Wolfenstein 3d, Blake stone, Heretic and Hexen series

>> No.642753

>>642698
Plain DOSbox without a frontend is kinda poopie. D-Fend turns it into a dream of user-friendliness

>> No.642757

>>642743
Since I loathe FPSes and racing games, I can't help with that. I like adventures, platformers/arcade, and strategy mostly.

>> No.642759

>>642753
I see no problems in just typing cd whatever. DOS is pretty cool but I guess if you never used it it can be weird.

>> No.642769

Chex Quest.

>> No.642770

>>642757
Strategy.. hmm

Simcity 2k

And for rpg's ultima underworld is pretty cool

I'm specifically listing off games you can get from gog or steam. These are from my own personal collection.

>> No.642778

>>642753
Not OP but I tried all sorts of front ends. Is this one any good?

>>642759
I just make shortcuts. Still, I like the idea of using a front-end for DosBox. Makes it a little nicer.

>> No.642776

>>642759
If you haven't used it, you have no business on a retro games board

>> No.642781

And nobody mention Alley Cat. Too plebian.

>> No.642782

>>642726
>no monster bash
>no tony and friends
That list in invalid.

>> No.642789

>>642778
I can't say that I've ever used a front end prior to using D-Fend Reloaded, but I like it.

>> No.642793

How can DOS be so scary as to require a frontend? Maybe to Apple users but to actual people?

>> No.642804
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>>642793
Even back in the day, there were plenty of front ends.

Basically that if you were a neckbeard, the command prompt was just fine, but if you were just hired to do the company payroll in Lotus 123...you know.

>> No.642805

Prince of Persia 2, that game was ahead of it's time, had so much secret stuff. Still surprises me

>> No.642820

>>642692
>wanting to use that shit instead of glorious Amiga Master Race

>> No.642824

>>642759
I did grow up with prompt-based interfaces (C64 and DOS), and I'm very glad we have alternatives now.

>I see no problems in just typing cd whatever.
That's not all there is to it. That's just how you start games. Configuring them and managing different setup profiles is much more convenient with a good frontend.

>> No.642840

>>642778
>Not OP but I tried all sorts of front ends. Is this one any good?
Best one I've come across so far. Not perfect, though. Things like re-mapping the keyboard still have to be done the archaic way.

>> No.642838

>>642824
This, I was dead set on using dosbox in the beginning through commands and whatnot, but seriously D-Fend is just too useful to ignore in my opinion.

You can easily configure all aspects of your dosbox games through a decent GUI. Has some extra utilities such as creating ISO's.

And it again provides an easy way to cycle through your library as well.

>> No.642847

>>642789
Well, might as well give it a shot. I didn't really like the other front-ends I tried.

>>642793
I guess some people might see it and get scared even though it really isn't hard but I don't see anything wrong with a front-end. If we can afford a better looking comfortable alternative then why not?

>>642840
Downloading now.

>> No.642858

>>642820
Go to bed, Yurop

>> No.642852

>>642824
Dammit, why did C64 files have 16 characters+spaces while PCs couldn't do that until Windows 95.

SCHLRPT.TXT
FUK_YOU.DOC
XMASLIST.DOC
DSKCOPY.EXE

>> No.642856

>>642820
I'll get around to snagging a copy of Amiga Forever sometime soon, trust me. That system alone makes me moist as hell

>> No.642863

>>642847
To me it's just weight off my shoulders because my Dos games collection is building up fast.

The past few months I've been purchasing quite a number of games off ebay and I've come to find that D-Fend just makes the whole process of managing my ever growing library that much more manageable, which is pretty much its purpose.

It's the only dosbox frontend I've used so far.

>> No.642871

>>642863
Would you mind taking a shot of your collection? I don't collect games myself but I am curious.

>> No.642879
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>>642759
Well I grew up in the very early 90's around a computer nut of a father, but I really haven't had much experience using dos fluently

I've currently got a well worn copy of "Dos For Dummies" that I'm reading, so command prompt shouldn't be a problem for much longer

>> No.642882

>>642871
Well not all of them are in D-Fend is the thing, some I haven't had to bother with since GOG makes it easy.

But what I might do soon is at least provide shortcuts to those games through D-Fend for more organization

>>642743
This is me, a few of these were steam, a few from gog

The games I most recently bought: Witchaven 1, Witchaven 2, Nam, WW2GI, and for those I definitely used D-Fend.

>> No.642925

>>642882
I thought you meant physical copies but alright.

>> No.642948

>>642925
The ones I mentioned from E-Bay yes, they are hard copies

>> No.642972

Best Dosbox version is Dosbox SVN from this site:
http://ykhwong.x-y.net/

It has a menu bar where you can set most settings and launch programs, and it can emulate glide (3dfx) and the MT-32.

>> No.642975
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642975

Okay so I gave D-fend a shot and this is pretty nice. I don't know if I'll use it over shortcuts but it might be nicer.

>> No.642994

http://www.bestoldgames.net/eng/rpg.php


take a look at this site, OP and others.
they have other genres as well.

betrayal at krondor is a mustplay of course.

>> No.643061

>>642879
>Be 12
>My mom got a Dos for Dummies book
>I say "well that will work for you, you're a dummy." playfully
>acts like a cunt to me the rest of the day
Dumb bitch never even opened the book. I love those dummy books.

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643168

Just installed all this shit and I have no idea what's going on. Tried to do "mount c c:\games\Sam & Max" which is where I extracted the .zip to, but it says I can't do it in "Secure Mode"

What am I doing wrong, I just want to play Sam & Max again.

>> No.643173

>>642726
got a larger image of that? I don't want eye-cancer

>> No.643205

For anyone looking for a good collection of DOS games and a little something extra:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?f90ca995xwt3lkp

You're welcome.

>> No.643203

>>642757
complete Ultima 7 and maybe 8

>> No.643231

>>643168
did you type exactly what you wrote or

mount c "c:\games\Sam & Max"

?

dos is picky about spaces and weird characters in directory/file names. put quotation marks around the windows directory path while mounting or rename the Sam & Max directory SAMMAX or something

>> No.643252

>>643168
>>643231

actually after reading the rest of your post and the thread, i have no idea what to tell you. i just responded off the cuff because i just run dosbox without a frontend. didn't notice this was a dosbox frontend thread.

have fun, i guess

>> No.643280
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643280

>>643231
Tried all of that, still says "this operation is not permitted in secure mode", but I don't know how to run it in any other mode. This is what the game's folder looks like.

>> No.643285
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>>642692
>So I recently got over my fear of using Dosbox

>> No.643298
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643298

>>643285

>fear of using Dosbox

>> No.643316

>>643280

ok. which frontend in this thread did you download

>> No.643329

>>643280

actually yaknow what just go download ScummVM and play it with that instead

>> No.643348

>>643329
Yeah I'm gonna. Thanks for trying though, guys.

>> No.643387

>>643285
>>643298
This, seriously, how can you fear Dosbox OP? It's like a computer inside a computer you can even run malware and stuff and it won't hurt your pc as long as you mount a directory which is not the root of your drive.

>> No.643407

>>643387
He probably meant that he fears using it because he assumed getting it up and running was more difficult than it really is. It's understandable if he isn't tech savy to assume something like that and now he knows better after actually giving it a shot.

>> No.643454

>>643407
Well, that makes sense, but he's still using a frontend, real men don't do that. You got to grow up with command prompts if you want deserve using a PC. That's my view on it. There is nothing worse than people bothering computers because MUH FACEBOOK then they end blaming consumer PCs being slow and Macs being ultra-lightning fast because you chose to install all the crappy adware you are presented with. And also for the "user friendly it just werks" interface.

OP didn't even have a problem with non-friendliness now that I read into it. He fucked up on a real DOS machine (W98 MS-DOS mode is still technically DOS), but as I mentioned, DosBox doesn't hurt your PC, there's a Readme explaining why.

>> No.643469

>>643454
Using a frontend is fine as long as he likes it.

>> No.643523

>>643205
>and a little something extra
Naked pictures of you?
I'm not downloading it until you give me some pics.

>> No.643545
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643545

Sup.

>> No.643546

>>643454
>real men don't do that
Real men don't bother with computers at all, because they're too busy giving wedgies to nerds like you.

>> No.643552
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643552

>>643523
Here is more or less what's in it, though it's been a while since I've updated that pack, so a few games and applications shown in the picture aren't included.

>> No.643558

>>643552
so no naked pictures?

>> No.643560
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643560

Quest for Glory, OP. To this day, I've yet to play a game that blends RPG and classic Adventure gameplay elements as seamlessly.
>>642769
muh nigga, you made me nostalgia.

>> No.643586
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>>643560
CHARACTER CLASS MOTHERFUCKER, WHICH ONE ARE YOU?

>> No.643590
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643590

>>643545

>> No.643598
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>>643586
Fighter is the best class in every game, prove me wrong.

>> No.643601

>>643590
That's perfect.

>> No.643624
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>>643586
>Not posting superior VGA version

It's like you hate technological progress

>> No.643635

>>643624
I tend to like EGA games more because they feel more obligated at driving a cartoony feel than an overly realistic "handmade paint" one.

>> No.643651

>fear of dosbox

>mount c d:\gaem
>c:
>gaem
that was hard...


anyway, there too many great dos games it's hard to make a comprehensive list from it , but assuming you're >>642757 here are some strategy games for you:

x-com apocalypse
jagged alliance
c&c: tiberian dawn
panzer general, fantasy gereral (+ other 5 star general games)
civilization 1/2
colonization
war wind 1/2
warcraft 1/2
dune 2
spellcross
battle isle
Z
steel panthers
syndicate
master of magic
master of orion 1/2

>> No.643657

>>643173

I can't upload it due to file limit. Here's a link. http://information2share.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/list-of-worthwhile-dos-games.jpg

>> No.643665
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643665

>>643624
>the remake
>superior

The remake casualized the game with easy-mode fighting, escape-all-monsters-bycranking-up-gamespeed exploits, and as >>643635 so aptly put it, tryhard supercrazy 256-color megarealistic immersive experience awesomegraphics. It was the CoD: MW2 of adventure games.

>>>/v/

>> No.643705

>>643665
>easy-mode fighting
what are the differences exactly? (I haven't played either game yet but I always wanted to)

>> No.643814

>>643624
>talking about technological progress on a retro game board

>> No.644017

>>643705
>I always wanted to
What's stopping you? It's like a 10-20 mb download on most abandonware sites for a copy of the old version, the remade version isn't much bigger.

Anyway, the essence of combat is the same, but there's an optional point-n-click interface in the VGA version which adds a tiny bit of depth to the combat (option to "slash" for higher damage but lower accuracy, or "thrust" for higher speed/accuracy but lower damage), on top of looking prettier and easier to tell when an enemy is attacking, so it's worth it to try and dodge/parry.

>> No.644051

>>643545
I still say "Not gonna happen" to people

>> No.644089

>>643598
Only if it's a magic based fighter.

>> No.644135

>>643598
I can't.

>> No.644131

>>643285
>>643298
>>643387
>>643407
>>643454
>>643651
See
>>642730

>> No.644265

>>643651
>master of orion 1/2
Fucking seconded, MOO1 has been monopolizing my dosbox usage for a LONG time.

>> No.646556

Commander Keen series
Carmageddon 2: Carpocaylpse Now
Descent//Descent 2
Doom//Doom 2: Hell on Earth
Duke Nukem
Hocus Pocus
Jazz Jackrabbit
Lemmings
One Must Fall: 2097
Rayman
Star Wars: Dark Forces
Quake
Theme Park
Wolfenstein 3D

>> No.646664

>>642730
You must be literally retarded.

>> No.646901

>>642726

wait... are you saying that those are all worth playing, or that those are the only dos games worth playing? cus if it's the latter, you seriously need to gtfo.

>> No.646915

>>642692
i have no mouth and i must scream

fucking awesome story

>> No.646946

>>642726

nice to see strife on the list. a cool shooter that seems largely overlooked.

>> No.646968
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646968

>>642692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXo2011YRo

>> No.646994
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646994

I just built an MS-DOS Computer out of spare parts and I find this thread interesting. I was about to ask about dos games before I seen this thread.

Pic related, its my new Dos system. I am working with a $0 budget thus the lego case and no floppy drive. System specs wise it would actually make a better Windows 95 system but whatever.

>> No.647001

>>646994
Gotta love Lego cases.

>> No.647023

>>647001
Yeah I just wish I had more flat pieces, if I did I would probably build a full ATX Tower but this works. The hard drive is actually held together with legos so its a bit complex to avoid having the hard drive touch the mother board. Obviously the PSU is outside the case too. Again because of the lack of flat pieces but I guess thats not really a bad thing cause I can use whatever PSU I want.

I am enjoying some Commander Keen on it with a old fat CRT.

>> No.647046

>>647023
It's very interesting, though I am a little curious as to why build such a machine to begin with, with how easy emulating either DOS games or Windows 95 machine is.

>> No.647104

>>642856
>script writer kibe

r u really Kibe-kun?

>> No.647141

>>647046

Well, I suppose its the same reason why people here hate to emulate the snes or playstation. It gives an authentic experience and you cannot perfectly emulate the sounds a true PC speaker makes.

Plus I am unemployed and bored if you wanna know the truth. LOL

>> No.647168

>>647141
Fair enough. Good luck with building the rest of it.

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>>642793
I am not afraid of DOS in its raw form but I love Norton commander.

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>>647220
>NC
>not M602

>> No.648883

>>643280
could someone tell me why there aren't an .exe file in this image?

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>> No.648982

>>648952

I think I just nostalgia-jizzed into my pants.

>> No.648995

>>642726
That's a typical /v/ list of games, not a list of games worth playing and sure as fuck not a list of 'pretty much everything' worth playing.

>> No.649006

>>648952
I suppose you could use DOS on a CRT TV... but why would you?

>> No.649010

>>649006
Uh, that's closer to a CRT monitor than a TV.

>> No.649027

>>649010
It's 'CRT pixel' filter, not a very good one at that. Though it's resolution is larger.

>> No.649038

>>642692

Apogee games and Epic Megagames games. There were no better DOS game companies.

You gotta play Jazz Jackrabbit.
Epic Pinball is arguably the greatest pinball game made for the PC.
ZZT is lots of fun.
Traffic Department 2192 has great writing for a DOS game, and is largely overlooked.

Oh, and can't forget Commander Keen.

>> No.649045

>>649027
Well to be fair, it's impossible to improve it at that resolution.

>> No.649079

>>649038
You're pretty good at listing games that people don't have to play.
Jazz kind of sucks, especially the first one.
Epic pinball... is pinball. We'll leave it at that.
ZZT is, the best of all the games you listed.

Apogee did publish Commander Keen, but it was an id game.

>> No.649082

>>648952
thank you! I had alot of those games when I was young, but had forgotten their names

>> No.649102
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>>649038
I beg to differ?

>> No.649107

>>649079
Woah, woah, woah.

Jazz sucks? What fucking planet do you live on?

It's quite possibly the greatest PC platformer ever made.
The gameplay was awesome and had perfect difficulty.
The levels were varied and interesting.
The music was incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POMqbGEJ54g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEZEjQ4xYlA

And you might not like pinball, but you have to admit Epic Pinball was a great PC pinball game. Again, it had lots of varied & interesting pinball machines to play, awesome music (one of Epic's strong points), and ran smooth as silk on 386 machines with full-color VGA graphics.

>> No.649112

>>649102
>I beg to differ?

i don't know, do you?

>> No.649114

>>649107
I fucking love Jazz Jackrabbit 2. Also, the soundtrack for both games were made by the same guy who did Deus Ex's and they are amazing.

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649124

>>649102
>not creepnight.

>> No.649130

>>649114
Well, the guy (the main one, at least) who did Deus Ex's OST was Alexander Brandon.

He did part of JJ2's soundtrack, but didn't do Jazz Jackrabbit 1.

Jazz Jackrabbit 1's soundtrack was made by Robert Allen, who also did some of the music for Tyrian 2000, Epic Pinball, and TD2192.

>> No.649148

>>649107
>It's quite possibly the greatest PC platformer ever made.
Not even by a long shot, in fact you could throw a dart at a board of all the PC platformers and pretty much have something like a 75% chance of hitting a better game outright. If you wanted an Epic platformer that didn't suck as much dong you could have at least gone with Jill for fucks sake.
Jazz had horrid physics and the gameplay was dong and the music was a mix of terrible to okay songs.

> but you have to admit Epic Pinball was a great PC pinball game.
I don't have to. Also like I said, pinball.
Who gives a shit.

>> No.649183

>>649079
>Apogee did publish Commander Keen, but it was an id game.
So what?
>Jazz kind of sucks
My childhood says you suck. Back then, it wasn't Sonic for me, it was Jazz. And Jazz rocked.

>> No.649196

The Tome Rebellion's one of those games I'd like to play one day.

And that list? It's missing The Realms of Haunting.

>> No.649204

JAck Jazzrabit is basically a playable Sonic the Hedgehog. I really don't see how anyone could have a problem with that game.

>> No.649225

>>649183
>Back then, it wasn't Sonic for me, it was Jazz. And Jazz rocked.
No. Back then it wasn't sonic for you, it was jazz, and jazz sucked. But you loved that shitty game blindly.

>> No.649276

>>648952
where did you download the games in your games folder? I'm having a hard time finding them

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649284

>>649148
>not liking pinball games

>> No.649281

>>649276
see
>>643205

>> No.649286

>>643552
Why do you have Doom shareware?

>> No.649297

>>649286
It's the first one I downloaded, so it's just kinda there.

>> No.649590

>>649281
danke

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650073

Maybe a weird question, but how do you guys organize your DOS games folders? I'm getting kind of tired of wanting to fire up dosbox and then looking at this and having to run a couple of the games before I remember what the hell they are. I'm thinking by genre.

>> No.650103

>>649284
Well shit, nostalgia for a PC game, never thought I'd see the day.

>> No.650258

>> 650073
I wouldn't bother, there are a bunch of DOS games that use hardcoded paths (the port of turrican comes to mind), you're bound to run into trouble sooner or later.

>> No.650884

>>650073
I organize my directories by game name.

>> No.650995

>>646968
Man it sucks how many good 2.5D FPSes came out in the 90s but were ignored/forgotten for being "DOOM clones"

>> No.651905

>>642692
>Sam & Max Hit The Road
Lucasarts games actually work much better on ScummVM. It even fixes bugs in some of them.

>> No.652206

>>650073
like any other game, throw in the root of my drive

that said, i don't really keep most of the games (new or old) that i don't play a lot, so i always delete and redownload what i want.

>> No.652226

>>650073
Like every other game, in a separate properly named folder + direct launch shortcuts with custom image in steam.

>> No.652293

>>650884
>>652206
>>652226

okay, thanks for the input. i kind of enjoy the dosbox ritual at this point so i probably won't be doing custom shortcuts or anything like that. guess i'll go with my first instinct and organize it by genre or write up a txt to cross-reference.

>>652206
yeah, the shot i provided there was post trimming; i probably deleted 30 games i thought i would never play. the remaining ones are on my dos backlog.

>> No.652343

>>651905
"Work much better" is an hyperbole. There is just one small or two fixed by ScummVM but they're trivial stuff which rarely happened on the original game. But then again they haven't fixed stuff like the shaking speed, actor directions etc. since the very beginning.

Speaking of Sam&Max, ScummVM doesn't yet support Sam&Max OPL3 driver and defaults the OPL2 one. You're better off using DOSBox for it if you want the FM sound.

>> No.652489

>>643168
Why not use scumm vm?

>> No.652707

>>649284
Man, that shit has the worst pinball physics in any game I've played.