/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6406734]

Why does this console in all its incarnations have such abysmal build quality? I own three and all of them have trouble reading discs and the disc assembly is loud as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6406741]

Sony's build quality went downhill in the late 90s and with this thing they thought they were building a literal babby's toy
Also, just grease the poor thing, lubrication doesn't last forever nigga

[Anonymous No.6406765]

>>6406734
the one I have has nichicon capacitors from the factory and works flawlessly. Should have gotten a 5500.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6406771]

It was made cheap so it could be sold cheap. Walking out on stage after Saturn's ill-conceived launch stunt and just knocking $100 off like "fine". You can STILL buy brand new replacement drive mechanisms - not just lasers but while drive mechanisms - for like $20. Who cares if they only last a year or two?

[Anonymous No.6406773]

>>6406771
>Who cares if they only last a year or two?
is this sarcasm

[Anonymous No.6406796]

My friend gave me his extra one after I gave him my old Gamecube. I was really excited to own one of these finally, but sadly, it stopped working right after I got it for no reason I could figure out at all, so I reluctantly gave it back to him (and he flaked out on getting it fixed and getting it back to me, unfortunately). I knew a bunch of people who either smoked or were in households that did, and most of these people owned a PS1, so perhaps there's some correlation. I got to play and beat Arc the Lad on another friend's loaned PS1 a few years later, so it worked out a bit.

[Anonymous No.6406802]

>>6406734
Just turn the console upside down bro.

[Anonymous No.6406805]

>>6406802
I literally have to.

[Anonymous No.6406823]

>>6406796
He had two so he didn't lend you the other one after the first one died on you? Sounds like a shite friend

[Anonymous No.6406824]

>>6406734
because its a normiefag-tier piece of shovelware shit released by a TV company in late 1994.

[Anonymous No.6406941]

>>6406805
Stop being stupid. These consoles are now 20 to 25 years old. Like any hardware, maintenance is required. Buy some sewing machine oil (or any other sort of dry lube for mechanical purposes), and look up videos on youtube regarding lubrication of the laser assembly rail. It's easy as shit. You can fix all three of your ps1s in about half hour.

[Anonymous No.6407063]

>>6406941
My Sega CD, CDROM2, Saturn, and DC have no problem reading discs.

[Anonymous No.6407072]

>>6406734
>Abysmal build quality
A piece of consumer electronics built to a price failing after a quarter of a century doesn't make it 'abysmal', anon. Early 360s were abysmal, they were failing practically as soon as they left the factory. A PS1's unmaintained laser sled finally giving out this long after production is expected, not surprising.

[Anonymous No.6407078]

>>6407072
Except people have been doing >>6406802 since the 90s.

[Anonymous No.6407092]

>>6406823
I think it was at his dad's house in another state or something. Perhaps he's just a little austistic or just a little shy personality-wise. Kind of an asymmetric friendship, especially now since he permanently lives in a seperate state and might have gotten married, too. Haven't talked to him in four years or so. Thanks for reading my blaeg.

[Anonymous No.6407110]

>>6406734
>in all its incarnations
Never had a early model where you need to turn it upside down for it to work, but I have a dozen of later grey boxes and PSOnes. What are some problems with these later models?

[Anonymous No.6407124]

>>6407110
None. Everything past the gpu revision is solid.

[Anonymous No.6407148]

>>6407124
Some of the early machine have the unreliable lasers but an improved GPU

[Anonymous No.6407149]

>>6407124
Neat. It falls inline with my experience, especially PSOnes are great.

[Anonymous No.6407274]

>>6407072
To be fair my 75xx PSX had its laser assembly replaced two or more times when it was still newish, it was always a bit of a weak spot.

[Anonymous No.6407280]

>>6406734
Shhhh, you are supposed to be like ZOMG BEST CONSOLE EVAER

[Anonymous No.6407281]

The PS1 was no different from anything else in that the early revisions when they were still figuring the thing out were the most troublesome. Never buy the first revision of any technology item since in essence you're signing up to be the manufacturer's unpaid test monkey.

[Anonymous No.6407286]

>>6407281
first version of n64 and saturn were perfect though

[Anonymous No.6407578]

>>6407286
They weren't, same for the snes.

[Anonymous No.6407615]

>>6407078
Yeah, but that's because of a specific design fault that was corrected on all later models. Ever wonder why the laser assembly is on the left of the earliest PS1s, but on the right on everything later until the PSone? It's to put more distance between it and the PSU, since it was heat causing that problem to begin with.
Anybody planning on using a first generation PS1 in 2020 should be aware of that, no different to YLOD mitigation on a fat PS3. It sucks, but I wouldn't write off the entire system family's quality because of it.
>>6407274
Yeah, it's hardly perfect. Hell, I'm in the process of waiting for a cable to arrive so I can swap a parts PSone's disc drive into my 5502. They're supposed to be by far the most reliable these days, between having 5+ years less wear on them and being the latest revision.

[Anonymous No.6407620]

>>6407578
Yeah the SHVC SNES is the one that the CPU self-destructs. Later revision SNESes almost never have that issue, it's always SHVC models.

[Anonymous No.6407639]

>>6406734
>Why does this console in all its incarnations have such abysmal build quality?
only the 1000 series & 5500 series had issues, the 7500 series & 9000 series are tanks
>I own three and all of them have trouble reading discs
these are are all reaching the age where the lasers are dying, lasers just die over time, nothing you can do about that even if you take care of them
>and the disc assembly is loud
happens with age, it needs greasing

[Anonymous No.6407648]

>hear about people never having a working PS1 since there's always problems
>still using the same 75xx model I got as a teen with burnt discs with no reading issues, still on original laser
Never gonna sell this thing, since apparently I got one of the few magical invincible PS1's ever made.

[Anonymous No.6407649]

The early Famicoms (mainly the Rev A-C chipsets) were flaky too, but they'd ironed out the bugs by the time of the US NES launch.

[Anonymous No.6407659]

>>6407648
Everything from the 7500 models on are super reliable. Only thing that might give out is the disc assembly but even if it does, it's just a drag and drop replacement from a donor unit or a $20 chink replacement from ebay away.

[Anonymous No.6407660]

>>6407620
It's unfortunate that the problem is cpu death. Not somethijg easily replaceable. Also does anyone notice how dirty the cartridge slot gets?

[Anonymous No.6407662]

>>6407648
same I’ve never opened my 7501 or had to do anything with it, works like it did since day one, had it since 98 and zero issues

[Anonymous No.6407667]

>>6407662
Not all of us have that luxury unfortunately. I take care of my stuff, but I'm a zoomer that doesn't exactly have systems from back in the day and buying used is an absolute crapshoot. Might end up with something fine, might end up with a nightmare.
As long as you're comfortable ordering parts and holding a soldering iron it's well within the realm of home repair 99% of the time, though.

[Anonymous No.6407670]

>>6407660
SLike I said, the Famicom was given a teething period in Japan for the first two years before they committed it to international sales which gave them time to fix bugs and improve reliability. The SNES was launched internationally right out of the gate when they were still learning how to manufacture them.

[Anonymous No.6407682]

C64Cs are pretty bombproof, the only thing that seems to go wrong with them is the RAM being eaten by Satan's power supply but those early breadbins from 82-83 had awful reliability.