PC98 appreciation thread

[Anonymous No.6400039]

I'm too young to have ever used a PC98, but I see these graphics and there's something magical about their aesthetic.

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[Anonymous No.6400057]

>>6400039
It's because we're looking at creme de la creme of those games' visuals, one painting per thousand. Sure, the entire catalogue has produced enough incredible visuals, but on average PC88/PC98 games looked like absolute shit.
But the best stuff was legit amazing, yeah.

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>>6400057
True, I have some shitty ones saved

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[Anonymous No.6400068]

I can read Japanese and I like the general aesthetic of the platform, but I couldn't find any decent games. It's all either shitty porn games or inferior ports of console/arcade games. Powerdolls seemed somewhat intersting, but I'd rayher play the newer installments from the 00's.

[Anonymous No.6400072]

>>6400068
Just like most Western point-and-clicks, they're mostly pretty bad.

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[Anonymous No.6400102]

>>6400068
>or inferior ports of console/arcade games
What ports of console or arcade games have you played on PC98?

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[Anonymous No.6400128]

>>6400068
PC-98 is awesome if you're into srpgs or simulation games. There are also some decent rpgs on it. But its action games are mostly shitty, even if there are some exceptions (Night Slave, Rusty...)
If you like srpgs, try the Metajo and Last Guardian series, Ryuuki Denshou, CRW, Tuned Heart, and even L-EST and the first two Lakers games if you don't mind about the porn. Dragon Knight IV is nice too.

[Anonymous No.6400137]

Are there any great-looking PC-98 games which aren't a visual novel game? It seems like you either get one or the other.

[Anonymous No.6400152]

>>6400137
>It seems like you either get one or the other.
Most of the time you get NEITHER.

[Anonymous No.6400154]

Are we spamming PC88/98 and MSX shit?

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>>6400039
> I'm too not Japanese to have ever used a PC98
FTFY.

>>6400057
I think even the average ones look pretty good, so I must disagree with you here.

>>6400062
Hey, what's wrong with Nooch?

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[Anonymous No.6400219]

It takes a legitimately skilled artist to pain something so evocating with, like, 8 colours and at such a resolution.
The common mistake is, though, to arrtibute this to hardware limitations. No, you ignoramuses. These artists were great despite, not due to hardware. None of those masters would pixel-paint today. They would create magnificent full-clour, high-resolution artworks.

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>>6400240
Aesthetic wankery aside, the original is jsut better painted, more detailed, better shaded. There are three more characters on the fucking background. It's just better in every way possible.

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>>6400260
I'm SO outperforming you in terms of image spam.

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[Anonymous No.6400269]

>>6400202
>>6400219

It was a massive step up in quality when devs started using 16 colours (256k available IIRC) in 1990-1991.

The 8-colour palette had a smaller set of available colours and they were almost all garish (think CGA). The dithering in those often hurts my eyes.

[Anonymous No.6400270]

My ultimate ambition is to make those fuckers in the "comfy" thread choke on this.

[Anonymous No.6400275]

>>6400269
>The dithering in those often hurts my eyes.
At risk of sounding like a hardware wanker, dithering looks much better on a bad old crt. It really looks like an additional colour.

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>>6400250
Based Isaku

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[Anonymous No.6400359]

Do you think anyone would buy a game with these graphics nowadays?

[Anonymous No.6400364]

>>6400359
They DO buy games with these aesthetics left and righ. Just last week there was a humongous sale/promotion of such adventure games. I played a few and they sucked tremendous dick. One started with an extended quote from the bible so I ALT+F4'd right away. There's most definitely, indisputably a market for these. If anything, it's getting oversaturated.

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>>6400364
Interesting. That was on Steam?

This isn't PC98, but I like the old Macintosh visual style of "Return of the Obra Dinn"

[Anonymous No.6400391]

Some Hydlide up in this bitch.

[Anonymous No.6400396]

Do you think anyone would buy a game inspired by Alice in Wonderland nowadays?

[Anonymous No.6400398]

The writing in this game is on a level of its own.

[Anonymous No.6400401]

>>6400386
Yeah, it was a digital exposition of indie adventure games with pixel-painted aesthetics. Many were very obviously inspired by MSX and PC98 shit specifically. They all had playable demos, so I played a bunch. They all sucked, but the visuals were great.

Obra Dinn is genius stuff. Completely unique 3d graphics that look like Apple I wireframes come to life and top-quality adventure gameplay on top. Rare stuff. Pic unrelated.

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>>6400359
VA-11 HALL-A was pretty successful.

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>>6400462
Yeah, that too.
Was it any good, by the way?

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[Anonymous No.6400502]

Alright, that seems to be it. I got this stuff from some tumblr blog years ago. Skipped the ones with nudity, of which there are galore, many at the same level of quality. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.6400526]

>>6400467
I haven't played it myself yet. General reception seems to be very positive though.

[Anonymous No.6400531]

>>6400526
Everyone says that, lol. I wonder if anyone's even played it or if it's just the devs spreading rumours about how amazing it is. The game always makes me curious... but not curious enough to go and play it.

[Anonymous No.6400550]

>>6400039
PC98 was peak aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.6400645]

>>6400550
As posted above, most of it was actually horrid garbo. We're just savouring the best of the best (visually), the top 1% of stuff across PC88, PC98, MSX and MSX2's entire libraries.

[Anonymous No.6400674]

>>6400645
Stop tainting NEC threads with MSX garbage.

[Anonymous No.6400686]

>>6400275
sauce?

[Anonymous No.6400696]

There's one image I really like how it looks, it's a woman in a wedding looking at her reflection in a mirror. It just feels so warm and happy.

[Anonymous No.6400758]

>>6400686
No clue, but more improtantly, you really don't need to know the source. It's overwhelmingly likely a Japanese-only adventure game that is absolute garbage, man.

[Anonymous No.6400763]

>>6400674
Go to hell!

[Anonymous No.6400764]

>>6400686
Cal III

[Anonymous No.6400775]

>>6400645
Compared to the IBM PC (and even most home computers of the era), the PC98 still has far more quality releases.

[Anonymous No.6400802]

>>6400137
Honestly, none come to mind.

[Anonymous No.6400847]

>>6400764
Thanks

[Anonymous No.6400913]

Reminder that the fall of PC98 is why OC gaming died in Japan

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>>6400927
Wasn't the Viper series meant to be a parody of all the VN tropes of the era?

[Anonymous No.6401081]

To me, the PC-98 is a Touhou machine, and nothing else.

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[Anonymous No.6401838]

>>6400696
This one?

[Anonymous No.6401860]

I heavily associate these with going to maximumhentai and spamming the Random gallery button
Not to bring up the elephant in the room or anything

[Anonymous No.6401871]

>>6401057
>Viper
>parody
I remember one is a parody of Friday the 13th.

[Anonymous No.6402019]

>>6400467
i've played it, i enjoyed it, not really much in the way of gameplay, but the story is interesting

[Anonymous No.6402032]

>>6400491
what did they do to you, lampy?

[Anonymous No.6402059]

>>6402032
The horror...

[Anonymous No.6402340]

>>6400391
Its funny how the Genesis port ends up looking uglier despite the extra colors.

[Anonymous No.6402571]

>>6401838
Nah, found it. This one.

[Anonymous No.6403461]

>>6402571
Which game is that from? Looks vaguely like the ending of some fantasy game to me.

[Anonymous No.6403515]

>>6403461
Harlem Blade. I found it when I was looking for information on the Lakers.

[Anonymous No.6403518]

>>6400039
Did anyone in the West even have these back then?

[Anonymous No.6403674]

>>6403518
Nope, westerners were jacking off to CGA adventure games and equally shitty home computer adaptations at the time.

[Anonymous No.6403813]

>>6400396
2011 isn't exactly nowadays but alice: madness returns is generally well regarded despite not selling very well. plus the original americans mcgees alice but that's nearly retro.

[Anonymous No.6403837]

>>6400176
now that is amazeballs /m/ art.

[Anonymous No.6403845]

>>6400219
The average artist in Japan is far better the average artist anywhere apart from France, due to the amount of jobs in creative industry and a culture of self publishing, where art scfhools in frane due to have real high standards for their artists.

[Anonymous No.6403857]

>>6400275
Depends if it was made for RGB first as as Arcade games.

[Anonymous No.6403856]

>>6403845
Is it though? I think there's much more work done so we simply end up getting more quality due to sheer increase in quantity. Why the fuck would a Japanese artist be better than a German or Dutch artist on average?

[Anonymous No.6403860]

>>6403856
Better because it's more profitable to be an artist in japan.

[Anonymous No.6403867]

>>6403845
>The average artist in Japan is far better the average artist anywhere
Are you shitting me?

[Anonymous No.6403871]

>>6403860
In other words, there may be more good artists in absolute numbers, but on average specifically they're quite likely much worse.

[Anonymous No.6403872]

>>6403837
I'm afraid it's not a mecha but a crashed aircraft of some sort.

The game is called Will no dengon, by the way.

[Anonymous No.6403979]

>>6403867
Kanon's art may not be anatomically correct, but it's cute, which is precisely the intent. It's definitely not a style everyone will appreciate, but Itaru Hinoue's art became very popular for a reason.

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>>6400050
I think the main difference is that while both images technically have same level of detail, on the left one those same detail are sharper and more distinct, easier to make out, and that makes it appear more detailed in comparison.

[Anonymous No.6404032]

>>6403871
There just as many western artists, as the eastern ones, however western artists have much less incentive to go pro and thus remain at amateur level.
Thanks to doujin circles and comiket being a thing (as well as a starting point for 95% of mangakas) japaneese artists have much more incentive to improve, and have a whole well developed industry they can get a job in with their skills.
Western amateur artists however have very little incentive to improve - thanks to furry/porn ebthusiasts that are ready to pay to anyone who can pander to their specific fetishes, many artists simply see no need to. As a result, good western art is few and far between.

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>>6404032
In the age of crowdfunding all of that is obsolete and has been obsolete for quite a while.

[Anonymous No.6404049]

>>6403860
It hardly is. Animators are paid something like $10k average yearly in Jap. Of course directors and coordination is paid a bit more. However animating hundreds of hours for a single season of some Anime should alone be worth more. The nips NEED second hand sales to come close to US animation salaries.
Also worth noting some of the best paid Seiyu make 500-700k a year. With averages for even lower end at $70k. $70k is what some high level directors pull.
What am I getting at? There are too many Jap artists so you get paid less since everyone wants to manga/anime over there.

[Anonymous No.6404086]

>>6400531
I completed it. The cocktail mixing business gets pretty old pretty quickly but the characters are solid, the dialogue is surprisingly funny in places, and there are lots of little internet culture/4chan references here and there. It was far more limited in scope than I was expecting, though - it's been a while now, but I'd guess there were half a dozen backgrounds total - which made the price feel a little bit cheeky, especially since I'd just got 2064: Read Only Memories free on PSN, which has an order of magnitude more art in it and is much closer to something like Snatcher or Policenauts in scale.

Unfortunately with 2064:ROM I loved the cyberpunk pixel art but it really crams the LGBTQ gender politics stuff into almost every last character, I'm a live and let live kind of guy but that game was a step too far for me.

[Anonymous No.6404429]

>>6400068
Powerdolls and A-Train was enough to sell me on playing PC-98. There's a lot of interesting titles if you dig a bit though; lots of 4X games, SRPGs and the like that are legit fun. And luckily because you can read you won't have the problem that no translator cares about that shit in the least. Just look through the refuge database by genre and you'll stumble upon some things.

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>>6404086
Alright, thanks. Doesn't sound like that much of a recommendation though, huh.

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>>6403857
It's not about RGB, dumbass. All PC-88/PC-98 games were obviously made for RGB. It's the soft, coarse shadow mask monitors used back then that made dithering work better than it does on a modern LCD.

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>>6404049
he means on average.

and he means an artist, not an animator.

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>>6405425
Looks like some Megaman Legends shit.

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>>6400243
Sauce?

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>>6400128
Phalanx and Genocide are both decent.

[Anonymous No.6405593]

>>6400243
Feels like it's missing frames. And considering this is the PC98 we're talking about, that says something.

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>>6405431
>when you editing pixels and the aliasing fucks up in PS and you can't see what you're editing
>the sheer technique in skill in the dithering
>feel like you're scribbling over hieroglyphs

>>6405438
bruh...

[Anonymous No.6405686]

Man, PC98 was SO heckin cool and aesthetic!!!

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>>6405594
forearms made of taffy

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>>6405686
>"Ah! I'm being dragged to the feces corner"
What did they mean by this?

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>>6400068
You're just making that up. There are very few arcade ports and mainly in specific genres like quiz or puzzle or games that were ported in the early 80s. It never got ports of games like Street Fighter 2.
Consoles weren't relevant as an original platform at all. Meanwhile PC98 served as the original platform for a large amount of console games.
The thing where PC98 saw the most games ported from is overseas computers like the IBM PC. And those are occasionally the best versions due to the higher resolution.

[Anonymous No.6405827]

>>6400137
Dragon Half, maybe?

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>>6400068
I'm interested in all those games of Anime series, like Ah! Megami-Sama, Slayers, Dragon Half, and others
But it's still only in japanese...

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>>6405832
What's your excuse?

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>>6405792
It is delicious forearms you must eat

[Anonymous No.6406280]

>>6400068
PC88 unironically has better games. It's a shame westerners only care about much dithered p98 porn though.

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>>6405395
AFAIK 2D artists in japan are very well paid, but since 3D art are a lot more cheaper and faster to commission, they don't get that much work.

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>>6405827
That does look quite nice, thanks.

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>>6405832
If you're interested in games like that it pays off to learn japanese my dude. Just spend half an hour a day on vocab and grammar until you can play simple RPGs, then do that until you can read more text-heavy games.

[Anonymous No.6407713]

>>6406280
No one wants to play shitty Ys clones

[Anonymous No.6407720]

>>6406818
Look up Rusty as well, a Castlevania clone, but a good one.

[Anonymous No.6407758]

>>6403872
By japanese definition it still mecha

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>>6407720
Cheers, I'll give that a go.

[Anonymous No.6407841]

>>6407720
Oh it has an English translation too, even better. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.6407916]

>>6400359
yes but most of the time these "indie devs" (18 year old with unreal engine or unity on his college laptop) making garbage pixelshit because muh retro boom

[Anonymous No.6407992]

>>6405832
Anyone got some Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu?

[Anonymous No.6409963]

What do you guys think about Azusa 999? It has an English translation now. I liked the plot.

[Anonymous No.6410145]

>>6409963
Pretty cool and original. Loved the translator's efforts to provide cultural contex notes, too.

[Anonymous No.6410179]

I want to impregnate every girl in this thread. Literally why is this art so perfect and why does it seem to be lost these days?

[Anonymous No.6410263]

Are there guides out there to get all cgs in Lakers III ? I only managed to get Natsune so far.

[Anonymous No.6410317]

>>6410263
The art book has a chart and guide, but the art book is also in Japanese.

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>>6410179
this one too >>6405686

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>>6407713
Better than shitty VMs with bad anatomy.

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>>6410263
E-hentai?

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>>6410449
t. someone who jacked off to Lara Croft during his entire childhood

[Anonymous No.6410506]

>>6410317
Thanks anon, I've found it on e-hentai. I read a little japanese and should be fine if I use a little bit of machine translation to fill in the gaps. Maybe I'll upload something on gamesfaq to help fellow eops afterwards.

[Anonymous No.6410617]

>>6410263
Why would you need CG of any character other than best girl?

[Anonymous No.6410791]

>>6410617
Sense of acomplishment, anon.
You get Natsune the second day, and the only way to miss the scene is to turn her out on purpose. It's almost too easy.
Other girls are harder to get (Chiyaki, Reika and guest character Mikami need more requirements) or come way after.

[Anonymous No.6411593]

>>6410617
They're all good girls. Not everyone goes for Sailor Jupiter.

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>>6411613
It's not only dither anime screenshots.

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>>6411613
Those looks like ships from Homeworld.

[Anonymous No.6412061]

>>6411890
LoGH is a bit older than that game, but it did receive a none retro title that looks like Homeworld.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf57myMJKyg

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>>6405836
You are my excuse

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>>6400039
It seems like the peak shmup system desu.

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>>6405438
Viper

>>6405593
It is

[Anonymous No.6413161]

>>6400408
Hする

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>>6413161
does anyone know of an isekai eroge/VN where MC is sent to some kind of fantasy world, and pretty much fucks each girl of every scene?

it's not dragon knight that's for sure. i only remember it was translated to chineses for DOS.

[Anonymous No.6413256]

>>6413202
Can you be more precise?
Quintia Road 2 might be an option. But you can try to look through the list of Chinese localized games to see if you recognize it.
https://vndb.org/r?q=&fil=lang-zh.olang-ja.plat-dos

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>>6413202
Cal ?

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>>6413161
I must say I really hate those old adventure games that had 10+ actions available in the menu at all times, despite being irrelevant in most scenes.

It's wonderful that you can 吸う a たばこ in some critical scene of the game, but... the rest of the time it's a worthless joke option.

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>>6413280
And you have to exhaust all options to progress. And you have to issue a command multiple times until you actually get results.
Multiple choice with fewer but meaningful options is far superior.

[Anonymous No.6414134]

So, I'm at the beginning of chapter 4 in Lakers III. I love the pacing of the fights so far, but they're quite easy compared to the previous instalment. Plus the equipement management is way easier (parts don't get broken, some setups are total overkill) and even Yayoi and Yuka have some overpowered moves and can chain-kill 3 or 4 ennemies in a single action.
They really pushed the dating simulation in this one, and you've got a lot of various events to witness. As far as H-scenes go, the guide helped a lot, so I just have Reika, Yuka and another guest character remaining.
The art is globally better, but the chara design went a big step back for Reika and Yayoi. The monsters look great.
I still am more fond of the second game, but overall it's a fun ride.

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>>6413256
>>6413265
can't remember the name at all. i only remember the grills had smooth censored pussies and pubic hair that matches their hair color.

[Anonymous No.6414518]

>>6414476
my bad. no pussy hair. it was Quintia Road. somehow found relevent screenshots while looking through similar games that got chinese translated.

girls not as hot as my nostalgia remembered. but i thought the rance-tier dialog was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.6415720]

>>6409963
Is this game actually a translation?
I'm a few minutes in and I'm really getting the vibe this is a modern game and someone just made this elaborate backstory about and old forgotten game from the 90s

[Anonymous No.6415757]

>>6415720
Yes, and the best part of it is that the writer was only 19 at the time of release.

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>>6404049
>>It hardly is. Animators are paid something like $10k average yearly in Jap.
Is that even a living wage in Japan?

[Anonymous No.6415805]

>>6415757
What I mean is the backstory is bullshit and this is actually some guy that released a pc-98 game in 2020 and is trying to pass it off as a romhack of an old 90s game
Just a hunch really, didn't dig into it, but a simple google comes with up nothing for the game besides his page

[Anonymous No.6415818]

>>6415805
https://obskyr.io/azusa999/companion/#foreword
http://web.archive.org/web/20070204113621/http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/digifami/conpark/zyusyou/1997_10.html

[Anonymous No.6415829]

>>6415818
Well there goes my paranoid delusions
Thanks anon-kun

[Anonymous No.6415871]

>>6400364
>One started with an extended quote from the bible so I ALT+F4'd right away
Yikes. Have an upboat, m'lady

[Anonymous No.6415915]

>>6414134
In what way do you feel the character designs regressed on Reiko and Yayoi?

[Anonymous No.6415927]

>>6415915
They look more childish. Yayoi the most.

[Anonymous No.6416275]

>>6415927
I get where you're coming from on that. It probably is the glasses that help that too, making her seem all the more wide-eyed and "cutesy".

[Anonymous No.6416297]

>>6416275
Her combat CG still makes her look more mature, so it makes that choice still puzzling for me (BTW Reika looks great in combat too)

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>>6416297
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[Anonymous No.6416426]

Any suggestion for another nice anime t-rpg ? I've completed both Metajo games, Tuned Heart and almost finished the whole Lakers series. I don't mind about adult content, but not really care either. I do like a bit of challenge, and if the game has nice fm tunes, it's always a welcome addition.

[Anonymous No.6416427]

>>6416419
>>6416324
Based

[Anonymous No.6417596]

>>6416426
Give CRW a try if you haven't already. Not super long, but there is a decent challenge to it. English patch exists too

[Anonymous No.6418169]

>>6417596
CRW?

[Anonymous No.6418183]

>>6416426
DK4

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>>6418169
https://refuge.tokyo/pc9801/pc98/02006.html

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>>6417596
>>6418183
Thanks, I'll check them

[Anonymous No.6418889]

>>6400039
>tfw Jesus 2 fucking sucks
How did they make such a bad follow-up to such a good game bros

[Anonymous No.6421251]

>>6418183
DK4 is hard.
The remake is easy though because you can replay the mission to grind your characters.

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>>6400120
source?

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