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Doom, the way it was meant to be played.

>> No.6398012

Not the way it was meant to be played, but still a decent port. The map feature is great.
People love to pretend to hate it, but there's way worse ports out there.

>> No.6398029

>>6397994
I remember renting this as a kid before fully grasping the concept of ports and being disappointed that it was just a crappier version of the PC game.

>> No.6398273

>>6397994
It was cool that it was released on the SNES, but there are much better ways to play it.

>> No.6398302

>>6398012
Well, it's pretty rough, but there's worse ports indeed, and it's incredibly impressive. Consider that with the X-Band modem, it also had online multiplayer, which is incredibly ahead of its time.

>>6398029
It was pretty damn cool if you already had a SNES.

>> No.6398324

>>6397994
Might be too ambitious for its own good but it's still cool as fuck and I'm glad I have a copy. It's the first-ever console FPS with online multiplayer too.

>> No.6398336

Would have been cool if another dev took a crack at an fps with the SFX2. The only other game that comes close is probably Vortex, but that wasn't exactly fps. Maybe sonething with less gritty visuals than Doom.

>> No.6398650

>>6398302
>It was pretty damn cool if you already had a SNES.

Wasn't it super expensive though?

>> No.6398673

>>6397994
>run into a wall
>get stuck
Garbage

>> No.6398969

>>6398336
Didn't Wolfenstein 3D also use SFX2? It was the one of the worst wolfenstein ports of all time though. Playable but not very good framerate and so much censorship all over the place. The inclusion of ammo capacity increasing backpacks and new weapons is pretty good, but the Jaguar and 3DO had that too, better play the Jaguar version.

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>Indeed, while the PC version is the undoubtedly superior version of the game, there's a certain je nai se quoi to the Super NES version that makes it oddly attractive to me, so my vote would have to go to the Super NES version, hands down.

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This version could be played online.

>> No.6399215

my family was too poor to have a PC so this was how I first experienced Doom. I especially liked episode 3. my brother and I would take turns seeing how far we could get.

>> No.6400067

>>6398969
>Didn't Wolfenstein 3D also use SFX2

haha, no. it just used Mode7 scaling.

>> No.6400350

>>6397994
Other than a collectors piece or a memento from your childhood/youth, there is little to no reason to play this port of Doom. Doom can run on a modern toaster now without any flaws, and also has a decent amount of excellent console ports on modern consoles. This version was inferior to the PC version by far and you only bought it back then because your parents didn't have 2k to drop on a home PC that could play it.

>> No.6400360

>>6397994
fuck that, i'll play it how i want to

>> No.6400361
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>>6397994
>Doom, the way it was meant to be played.

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Doom, the way it was meant to be played.

>> No.6400404

>>6400361
Doom RPG was really fucking good.

>> No.6400646

>>6398650
I paid I think $70 cdn for it in march 1996 when I got it for my birthday, it was like $90 on release
I enjoyed it at least, played through the whole thing on nightmare difficulty and all

>> No.6400680

>>6399065
John is a bit of a puff, but he doesn't do shit that stupid. He appreciates ports for what they are, but will always prefer the better way to play.

Now if you want to lambast his obsession with expensive CRTs, that may be reasonable, but I have to admit, the motion blur on flat panels is starting to get to me, and it really annoys me how anything not at the panels native resolution looks like shit, so much so that if you put it next to a panel that's 10 years older but native 1080p or even 720p, it looks way better, and even sharper at times.

>> No.6400706

>>6397994
PC<PS1<GBA<SNES<Atari Jaguar<Sega 32x

I mean I guess PS1 could be considered different games due to the differences but still.

>> No.6400738 [DELETED] 

>>6400706
I know you're memeing, but Jaguar has the best console port of Doom because of its unique lighting. Jaguar rendered colors in a different way, causing the shading to look and giving a more atmospheric feel.

>> No.6400745

>>6400706
I know you're memeing, but Jaguar has the best console port of Doom because of its unique lighting. Jaguar rendered colors in a different way, causing the shading to look amplified and giving more atmospheric visuals. The framerate still sucks compared to the PS1 port though.

>> No.6401867

>>6397994
It was the first version I stumbled upon it in ZSNES back in 2002.
Not great to play now but, like Saturn Quake, I can imagine it being awesome for someone who had a console back then and no access to a capable computer.

>> No.6401873

>>6400706
This but PS1 ahead of PC. Other than not allowing saving anytime and being a bit dark, I like the PS1 version over every version because of the colored lighting and awesome soundtrack.

>> No.6401929

>>6400680
Kind of like The Mayan Adventures and literally every multiplatform Japanese game, right?

>> No.6402621

The framerate on the SNES port is awful. It's really impressive from a technical perspective but any modern source port on PC is a much more fun way to play the game.

>> No.6402636

>>6398012
This
It's a decent way for the handful of people that wanted Doom but didn't have PCs to play.

>> No.6402678

>>6397994

>Worst input lag of any officially released game on a console.

>> No.6402683 [DELETED] 

>>6397994
Is this how hard Nitnecels are coping now?

lmaonomods

>> No.6402697

>>6400361
ngl I fucking loved DoomRPG, for all it got wrong.

>> No.6402725

Wanna know what's better than playing Doom on a Super Nintendo?
Playing Doom on a PAL Super Nintendo.

>> No.6402732

>>6402697
What did it get wrong? I really enjoyed it but then I never really played Ultima or CRPGs like that.

>> No.6402737

>>6402732
Do you want me to kick your ass?

>> No.6402787

>>6402737
Is that a quote from it or something? Sorry it's been ~15 years.

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>>6400382
Impressive
>>6400404
>>6402697
Fuck yeah, I am playing through it and Doom II RPG right now on my android phone using a Java emulator. It actually works really well, on screen keypad of course but its not bad.

I am really digging both, I was aware of them back in the day but didn't have a phone that would play it or didn't want to spend the 2.99 or whatever it used to cost, it wasn't free I remember that. I love the little further glimpses into the Doom lore/universe it and Wolfenstein RPG give, even its not canon. It is official though and Carmack wrote the engine.

>> No.6403950

>>6398012
>People love to pretend to hate it,
You're thinking of the 32X port. People suck off the SNES port way more than it deserves because LE NINTENDO XD SUCH GAMER LOLOL fucking /v/edditors.....

>> No.6403957

>>6403950
I literally have never seen anyone suck off Doom on SNES or even speak positively of it beyond "Its impressive that got it to run at all", what kind of freaks do you know? Or did you just make that up?

>> No.6403958 [DELETED] 

>>6403957
You're the one making shit up /v/edditor. Big whoop you like an okay port GET THE FUCK OVER IT fuck. So sick of hearing about LE SNES DOOM SO OOOO GOOD XD fucking SHUT UP! Every god damned day with you fags it's like BLABLABLABLABLA that's you BLABLABLABLABLA NEVER SHUTTING THE FUCK UP BLABLABLABLABLABLABLA SHUT UP I'M SICK OF IT BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLA

>> No.6403959

>>6403958
What the fuck are you doing? I don't even like Doom on SNES

>> No.6403962

>>6400361
>THAT 5G FAST THO

>> No.6403964

>>6403958
>an okay port
But it's dogshit.

>> No.6404171

>>6403887

What would be a good way to play the doom/wolf3d rpgs? I'm not above buying an old top of the line symbian OS phone off ebay.
I guess something with a keyboard and square screen?

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>> No.6405741

>>6405727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKaUa5hqFKE

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>>6404171
I use my Android phone to play them, using an app called J2ME Loader. Those games are just on a single java file and you just load it in and play. Here is what it looks like on my phone with virtual touchscreen keypad.

All of the iD RPGs, Doom RPG, Doom II RPG, Wolfenstein RPG and Orcs and Elves 1 and 2 are all found in this archive:
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Playing it on Android or PC is exactly like using an emulator to run a rom. Not sure about actually buying an old phone and putting it on there, I am sure they keypad would be nice but I can't deal with those tiny shitty screens, J2ME allows you to play in a much bigger screen than originally possible with these games.

>> No.6406540

>>6405727
This gif is really just to make purists seethe. I'm not one myself, and even this looks like shit to me

>> No.6406549

>>6403950
You seem obsessed anon, lay off the console wars and /v/.

>> No.6406674

It's how I played doom for most of my childhood. I had a family computer but I just had the snes version of doom for some reason.

Ran like ass and the visuals are so fucking bad you can hardly tell what's going on at times, but it's technically pretty impressive. I'm still kind of good at it when I dicked around with it in an emulator a while ago lmao.

>> No.6406920

>>6405741
It's Brutal Doom (or one of its many variants/derivatives), with a shader that makes all sprites and textures warp and jiggle constantly.

Someone actually just came up with an algorithm in ZScript which lets you warp/deform the actual level geometry in realtime, which you could probably pile onto that mess to make the level constantly twist back and forth, and then the Nausea Machine is complete.
Actually, switch out Brutal Doom for Extreme Weapons Pack and then it's complete.

>> No.6406925

>>6403950
>he still thinks SEGA won the console wars
Pathetic

>> No.6406926

>>6397994
>It's the first-ever console FPS with online multiplayer too.
no it isn't

>> No.6407307

>>6406926
Then what is?

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>>6403958
Here comes the airplane!

>> No.6409328

>>6397994
that's a nice looking cart

>> No.6411637

>>6398969
The Wolf3D port was done in 3 weeks by people who had never programmed for the SNES before because the contractor didn't do their job.

>> No.6411645

>>6397994
Isn't this port actually made by just one programmer?

>> No.6411657

>>6411637
One of those people were programming prodigy John Carmack, he used this port as a test-bed for Binary Space Partitioning, a rendering concept previously never ever applied to videogames before, and which would be the fundamental reason Doom, and later Quake, could get as good performance as they did out of machines of their times, while many other 3D games without such optimization, or with less efficient optimization, couldn't.

>> No.6411714

>>6399065
John did nothing wrong, Doom running remotely well on SNES is a really cool novelty.