/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6379579]

What's the best Dragon Ball retro game? And why is it Super Saiya Densetsu?

[Anonymous No.6379631]

>>6379579
Dragon Ball games didn't start getting good until like 2002 or 3

[Anonymous No.6379638]

>>6379631
What makes you say that?
Most of my favorite retro DB games are from retro eras.
Non-retro I mostly only like DB Advanced and FighterZ, with BT3 being a fun game but away from being among my faves.
5th gen had some of the weakest DB games, true, but 6th, 7th and 8th gen have the most concentration of bad ones.

[kuuhaku No.6379638,1]

the best dragon ball game to date is dragon ball shin butouden for sega saturn is used even on the EVO events there is no match for that one.
>>6379631
zoom zoom
you are saying those one button and press as crazy buttons which only a few used because the younger had advantage pathetic.

[Anonymous No.6379724]

Legendary Super Warriors. Densetsu is shit.

[Anonymous No.6379829]

The nes games are the best. They never got any English release but there are translation patches on RDHN.

[Anonymous No.6379842]

>>6379829
Isn't Super Saiya Densetsu on SNES a 16-bit remake of DBZ 1 and 2 on Famicom?

[Anonymous No.6380097]

>>6379579

[Anonymous No.6380436]

>>6379842
It's worse than the nes versions.

[Anonymous No.6380809]

>>6379579
You misspelled The Legend, but don't worry, OP. I know what you meant.

[Anonymous No.6380827]

>>6379579
Hyper Dimension is the best /vr/ DBZ game because it's got advanced enough controls for many replays while not too complicated to learn, it looks really good for a SNES game and it's fun doing all these moves without them taking forever unlike the 16 bit butoden games.

newer dragonball games like Advanced Adventure on GBA and FighterZ are even better but those aren't retro.

[Anonymous No.6381367]

>>6379579
What was with gamers in the 90s loving Dragon Ball Z so much? I remember half the fan art in issues of EGM and Gamepro would be nothing but DBZ.

[Anonymous No.6381370]

>>6380809
This game looks really fun. Saturn version seems to be the best one too.

[Anonymous No.6381393]

What the fuck does Densetsu even means, and why do japs keep putting it in all their games.
Mario Densetsu
Seiken Densetsu
The Legend of Densetsu
Fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.6381403]

>>6381393
It's a pun word, but it's hard to translate in other languages. Close translation would be "filthy gaijin eop is stupid", but it's a lot more nuanced and subtle really

[Anonymous No.6382820]

>>6381393
>The Legend of Densetsu
The Legend of Legend? Wat.

[Anonymous No.6382828]

>>6379631
Dragon Ball games were never good.
The anime too for that matter.

[Anonymous No.6382834]

>>6382828
I disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ep4UVDNKs4

[Anonymous No.6382843]

>>6379579
Hyper Dimension is the best retro Dragon Ball game.

[Anonymous No.6382846]

>>6380809
>>6381370
Yes and yes! I used to hate this game at first because I had it on PSX and it's slow on that version. Then I watched the comparison video and it made a huge difference. Dbz legends (Saturn) for the win on this thread.

[Anonymous No.6382864]

>>6382828
>guy who doesn't like DB doesn't like DB games
color me surprised.
But nah, Super Butoden 2 and 3 are good fighting games with unique mechanics, I liked Butoden 2 even before watching the anime.

[Anonymous No.6383249]

>>6380827
FighterZ is good fanservice but I find it a total chore to play for some reason. It somehow manages to feel simultaneously monotonous and tailored to the tastes of a preteen with ADHD. Hyper Dimension is good, though. It's probably my favorite.

[Anonymous No.6383258]

>>6382846
>>6380809
I was convinced no one ever played this stateside. I own it and I have mentioned it to confused looks. Probably my most liked /vr/ dbz game

As for retro consoles, ps2 and DBZ BT3.

[Anonymous No.6383275]

I've only played the SNES game they gave out for free on the Switch. I don't speak weaboo so don't know how to control and haven't googled it so I can't even get past the demo and think it sucks.

[Anonymous No.6383472]

>>6383275
Git gud, faggot.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588290-dragon-ball-z-super-butouden/faqs/13528

[Anonymous No.6383507]

>>6381367
Not only gamers, a lot of people were in love with Dragonball Z because of many reasons, not in the least because of the action scenes and how much people looked up to characters like Goku and Vegeta. There's also the fact that anime in general wasn't as globally popular as it is nowadays unless you lived in countries like France where they got most of the shows that aired in Japan soon after they were released, it wasn't till the turn of the millennium when things really started to pick up for most other countries like the USA.

In hindsight there's probably a lot more interesting anime and manga franchises and honestly I prefer the early part of Dragonball over Z because since Z it feels less like an adventure with fantastical twists and more like the same high stakes, higher power level and 'goku saves the day after being taken out temporarily and the other guys failing at beating the big baddie' spiel it basically became starting with the piccolo arc and intensified with the saiyan saga and later. That being said, it's still fun to mess with the games because most people don't really play the games for the story anymore but more because of playing with this or that character and kick someone else's ass with it. I think RPGs can work well with DB(Z) but there's a reason why the fighting games with the brand are more popular.

[Anonymous No.6385686]

>>6383275
>>6383472
which game was free on switch? Butoden 1 instead of 2?

[Anonymous No.6385732]

>>6383507
>>6381367
We take DB (and anime in general) for granted now. Kids nowadays watch anime like we watched Tom & Jerry as kids, but back in the 90s, seeing something like Dragon Ball to a kid was super strange, badass and intriguing.
For a lot of people, the first contact with the franchise was through seeing something related to DBZ, and not the original Dragon Ball. So you'd see all these weird ass characters changing their hair color, flying around very quickly and fighting at insane speed, throwing hadou-kens at each other like it's nothing.
It was surreal to later watch the original DB and see how Goku actually evolved and learned all those things.
When you actually "reset" your brain and try to look at Dragon Ball as if it was something completely new to you, you can notice it's special. At least it happened to me, I was the biggest fan as a kid, then when it became too popular, my hipster side made me get sick of it.
Then one day I remember watching it on TV, and somehow my mind made a soft-reset, and I appreciated it for what it was, instead of my usual cynic "ugh, dragon ball...", and I fell in love with it again.

[Anonymous No.6385784]

>>6380809
I remember playing and finish it on the ps1 as a kid. Is the saturn version that good?

[Anonymous No.6385794]

>>6380809
Legends has the advantage of having 0 competition, all the other 5th gen DBZ games were atrocious, which is fucking weird considering the 4th gen games ranged all from decent to great. Hell, Hyper Dimension was released during 5th gen era, and it was miles better than either Shin Butoden or Ultimate Battle 22.
That said, Legends is also good because of its awesome presentation. Good sprite work, great music, and the gameplay, while weird, is also super unique and actually mimmicks the DBZ aerial battles very well, even if at the end of the day it's a bit shallow and repetitive.
Still, I love Legends, I also played it on PS1 back in the day but I've been wanting to try it on Saturn for a while now, one of these days.

[Anonymous No.6385809]

>>6385732
>Kids nowadays watch anime like we watched Tom & Jerry as kids

Are you sure? I think that happened in the early 2000's when anime was popular, but nowadays anime is absolute shit and has a bad reputation of being shit for losers not to mentions anime is no longer being dubbed or aired on TV.

[Anonymous No.6385834]

>>6385809
I think the anime backlash has more to do with the whole "weeaboo" strawman, but people still watch anime a lot, it's no longer a niche thing. In turn, it lose "cool points", of course.
I wouldn't take dubs/TV airing into account since TV in general is on its way out. Kids watch anime online.

[Anonymous No.6385837]

>>6385809
>has a bad reputation of being shit for losers
It's always been that way zoomer.
>not to mentions anime is no longer being dubbed or aired on TV.
Nigger what? Adult Swim still airs dubbed anime.

[Anonymous No.6385841]

>>6385834
>In turn, it lose "cool points", of course.
Anime was never cool.

[Anonymous No.6385858]

>>6385837
>>6385841
I mean, entertainment in general that isn't sports was always considered "for losers". Even people who are too much into books or movies are considered losers.
Of course anime is no exception, but in the 90s, anime was seen as very edgy, alternative, and cool. That's because most people's first exposure to anime were things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and weird ass 80s OVAs with lots of gore and mature themes/imagery.
So, for a while, anime or "japanimation" was considered edge-cutting in the west, and it wasn't popular enough to have backlash (other than older comics/star trek nerds seething that this weird japanese animation was taking over interest at comic cons with younger people).
It wasn't until anime in the west settled in the 2000s that it started to get an actual backlash, and eventually the word "weeaboo" appeared, mutating from wapanese.
Think of it this way: back then, the original "weeaboos" (ie, people who "want to be japanese", or who have an obsession with japanese culture) were mostly martial artists like Steven Seagal, not comic/animation lovers.

[Anonymous No.6385869]

>>6385858
The difference iis that anime was actually good in those times, nowadays 100% of anime is weebshit escapism and crappy, poorly writeen shonens, so it deserves all the backlash it gets

[Anonymous No.6385874]

>>6385869
I'm sure someone will post that one "anime then, anime now" showing that both eras had cute girls.
But I somewhat agree with you, the anime industry has become a lot more stagnant - then again, you can say the same about every industry out there.
The jump from traditional cel animation to digital didn't help, either.
But there's still interesting anime coming out if you really look out for it. There's a lot of good stuff from the 2000s and 2010s, but yeah I prefer 80s or 90s myself. Most of my favorites are from those times.

[Anonymous No.6385883]

>>6385858
>Of course anime is no exception, but in the 90s, anime was seen as very edgy, alternative, and cool.
No, that's just how it seemed and how it was marketed to nerds and shiftless 90s twentysomethings who were basically predisposed to enjoy it in some capacity. Here's the rundown
>Watch anime in the 80s (if you knew it was Japanese at all)
>WHY U WATCHIN THEM ZIPPERHEAD CARTOONS REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR BOY
>Watch anime in the 90s
>Ewwww, aren't those the tentacle rape cartoons are you a pervert!?
>Watch anime in the 00s
>LOL LIKE POKEYMAN AND YUU-GEE-OH WHAT ARE YOU FIVE?
>Watch anime from 2010s to now
>WEEEEEEEEEEEEEB!
Anime was always the domain of nerds, autists, and teenagers with emotional problems. The off-chance that Chad THundercock watched Akira once was not an indication of anime actually being cool. And when it did have a surge of brief mainstream popularity in the US, that was due to channels like Cartoon Network taking a chance on it as well as a bunch of kids reaching early adolescence and having a smidgen of disposable income from their parents to buy it. Even then the main base of anime watchers in America was always dominated by nerds, many of whom would go on to work at US anime distributors like CPM, ADV, and Funimation.

[Anonymous No.6385885]

>>6385869
>nowadays 100% of anime is weebshit escapism and crappy, poorly writeen shonens, so it deserves all the backlash it gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCkJ5lGPqFs

[Anonymous No.6385886]

>>6385869
>>6385874
Don't mind if I do. Here's you niggers from 25 years ago
>nowadays 100% of anime is weebshit escapism and crappy, poorly writeen shonens
All entertainment is escapism, and shonenshit was always poorly animated. No, being hand drawn doesn't mean something is well animated.

>But there's still interesting anime coming out if you really look out for it.
Just like in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.6385887]

>>6385886

[Anonymous No.6385889]

>>6385887

[Anonymous No.6385892]

>>6385889
And one more. This shithole needs a multi-image upload function.

[Anonymous No.6385896]

>>6385883
You're not wrong entirely, I do agree that anime (or entertainment in general) isn't "cool", but the fact anime was still niche made the backlash non-existant.
>WHY U WATCHIN THEM ZIPPERHEAD CARTOONS REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR BOY
This only really applies to burgers, but even then, people obsessed with pearl harbor were either older people, or rednecks. The average suburban boy didn't care about WWII.
>Ewwww, aren't those the tentacle rape cartoons are you a pervert!?
This also didn't happen. Again, anime was too niche, people in general didn't even know these weird chinese cartoons were called "anime", much less they'd know that there was tentacle rape hentai.
>LOL LIKE POKEYMAN AND YUU-GEE-OH WHAT ARE YOU FIVE?
This did happen, but this is already the 2000s, anime was starting to get mainstream in USA.
All I'm saying is that, within people who enjoyed comics and animation already, anime was seen as alternative and cool, and many alternative kind of people also liked anime, because again, it was an obscure thing and seemed very edgy, so it had a sort of "cool" status, not in a mainstream way.
The actual backlash started when anime became mainstream enough to get attention from people who would not usually be into animation.
The most backlash you'd see back then was "what's this cartoon? it's weird", but there was no pre-conceptions about it, it was still too new/unknown.

[Anonymous No.6385907]

>>6385886
kek, you can always go back to usenet and find inane shit. It's true that shitposting always existed.
But remember, only a very small handful of people had access to the internet in 1996.

[Anonymous No.6385926]

>>6385896
>The average suburban boy didn't care about WWII.
Yes, but if your suburban did, that likely meant no anime for you.
>This also didn't happen
Yeah, it did zoomer. Stuff like Legend of the Overfiend and Ninja Scroll caused parental controversies, especially in Canada and the UK, where in the latter you had companies like Manga UK having to make all sorts of cuts to the OVAs they put out so it could be approved by the BBFC. La Blue Girl in particular has outright banned when Manga UK tried to put it out uncut. And in America while nothing got outright banned it was still pervasive enough that you had video rental stores putting PARENTAL ADVISORY stickers on even the most chaste anime titles they would stock. It wasn't until Pokemon and Disney releasing Ghibli movies that anime's image in English speaking territories began to soften up.
>This did happen, but this is already the 2000s, anime was starting to get mainstream in USA.
And that was only because of Cartoon Network and the demographic of anime watchers in the US suddenly getting an influx of much younger viewers.
>within people who enjoyed comics and animation already, anime was seen as alternative and cool,
And those people were not all considered "cool". Alternative, maybe, but certainly not cool and generally seen as maladjusted and basically permavirginal.
>it was an obscure thing and seemed very edgy, so it had a sort of "cool" status
And again, it was only "cool" to people who really weren't fucking "cool" in the slightest. Pic related was late Steve Pearl, the moderator of rec.art.anime in the 90s. Tell me with a straight face this guy is "cool"
>The most backlash you'd see back then was "what's this cartoon? it's weird", but there was no pre-conceptions about it,
The was the best reaction you could hope for. It was that, or either LOL UR WATCHIN PORNO TOONS or LOL UR WATCHING KIDS SHOWS.

[Anonymous No.6385943]

>>6385926
>Yeah, it did zoomer.
I'm 35. But yeah I'm not from USA or Canada so you obviously know more about how stuff went over there.
In Europe, anime was a lot more normal (and it caught on earlier), and I don't really remember the backlash you're talking about, but...
>ideo rental stores putting PARENTAL ADVISORY stickers on even the most chaste anime titles they would stock
This supports my view on anime in the 90s being considered edgy. That doesn't mean people in the 90s in general were aware of tentacle porn. Nowadays even normalfags are aware of hentai and tentacle porn thanks to memes and the internet, but back then, parents were just concerned about violent cartoons, japanese or not. Maybe there was some extra concern because it was a foreign product/different culture, but again, it's parents we're talking about. If parents are afraid of something, it's automatically "cool".
>Pic related was late Steve Pearl, the moderator of rec.art.anime in the 90s. Tell me with a straight face this guy is "cool"
First of all, if you read between lines, you'd see I still am saying that comics or animation are, in the eyes of most people, "for losers", but I do think that during the 90s, anime was still niche enough to bypass a lot of backlash (that later received), and was seen as cool by even some non-nerd types of people, but to be fair, that still happens nowadays. You have rappers and rockstars who like anime, but since they're famous/successful, they get away with it, and are even cool for it.
The main difference, IMO, is that back then, concepts like "weeaboo" didn't exist. That alone made anime get a LOT less backlash than it does nowadays.
>It was that, or either LOL UR WATCHIN PORNO TOONS or LOL UR WATCHING KIDS SHOWS.
Fair enough, but the backlash wasn't because it was specifically japanese animation, it was because you were watching animation.

[Anonymous No.6385995]

>>6385886
I'm the guy you were replying to, and I read all your shit, which I found interesting, but, are you sure moeshit and fanservice-heavy shit isn't popular in Japan? We're talking about the same country where there are anime idols. and moeshit/fanservice decay has greatly influenced the videogame media, especially RPGs (the only good thing that comes out of modern RPG's is literally porn, just look at what happened to fire emblem). btw, are you also sure there are actually decent animes coming out these days, or is it that westerners have shit taste and all the anime they talk about tends to be shit? I find it strange that there hasn't been a single anime as good as the best ones from the 80's and 90's since decades ago, and mainstream anime is clearly absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.6386009]

>>6385995
>are you sure moeshit and fanservice-heavy shit isn't popular in Japan?
It's profitable niche that keeps the lights and bills paid for some studios. No it isn't mainstream in Japan but it has an audience.
>are you also sure there are actually decent animes coming out these days,
I'm not watching anything from the last few seasons, but look for yourself. You'll find at least one decent thing you may enjoy. Remember it was few years ago we got shit like Goblin Slayer which people bitched about for being antisemitic.
>I find it strange that there hasn't been a single anime as good as the five animes from the 80's and 90's I only watched once decades ago
ftfy
>mainstream anime is clearly absolute shit.
Anything mainstream from any era is fucking trash. Stop posting like a nigger and go watch anime yourself. Better yet, go watch all the anime from the 70, 80s, and 90s you haven't seen and still say it's all great. Don't bitch when your brain is turned to mush from toyetic super robot shows meant for 8 year olds.

[Anonymous No.6386074]

>>6382864
I grew up with my Uncle sending me bootleg PS1 games (He worked in Hong Kong) and I had a modded system so I could play imports.

My 1st DBZ game was pic related, and 7 year old me LOVED that game. Looking back, the game is fucking horse shit

[Anonymous No.6386105]

>>6386074
Yeah the 5th gen DBZ games were mostly pretty garbage outside of Legends.

[Anonymous No.6387684]

>>6379579
It's obviously the game that magazine cover is promoting: DBZ Super Butoden 2

[Anonymous No.6387741]

>>6385886
that entire rant from 1996 was typed out by a faggot

[Anonymous No.6387810]

>>6379829
That one looks pretty cool, the earlier game Dragon Ball: Daimaō Fukkatsu is fun with the card battle and adventure elements. I suppose the game I just mentioned is the best retro dbz game.
>>6386009
>super robot shows
Those anime were the best ones.

[Anonymous No.6388115]

In terms of storytelling and alternate scenarios, my favorites are the Gokuden games.
Gameplay is just RPG battles (with some deep customization but ultimately very broken), but I just like replaying these games to go through the story, love the presentation, it's like reading the manga in visual novel form, sort of.

[Anonymous No.6388162]

>>6380097
That actually looks really good for a gameboy color game

[Anonymous No.6388170]

>>6388162
Say what you will about the primitive/simple graphics, but Super Saiya Densetsu is still a classic.
Probably it's better to play the original Famicom ones, but it will always have a special place in my heart for being the very first translated ROM I ever played, in the year 2000.

[Anonymous No.6390080]

>>6379631
The SFC fighting games were not bad.

[Anonymous No.6390660]

>>6380809
Okay, I actually just got a copy of this but haven't figured out how to play it yet. Looking for a good guide online.

Anyway, fav retro DBZ game is definitely Legend of the Super Saiyan for RPGs, but Botouden 2 for fighting games.

[Anonymous No.6390713]

>>6390660
I haven't played in a while, but as I remember, most of the gameplay can be summed up as just pressing up on the control pad to get to your target/enemy (and pressing down to go further away from it), then mash the attack button. There's a bar at the bottom of the screen, once it fills up, you will be able to throw an special attack, I think it does this automatically IIRC. This is the only way to defeat enemies, just punching them with normal attacks won't really take any HP from them, only special attacks.
On missions where there's more than 1 enemy (like against the androids), you will be able to toggle between enemies to select which one you want to attack.

[Anonymous No.6390825]

>>6390713
This is one I've wanted to play for years, since I was a kid. Looking forward to digging into it, thanks!

[Anonymous No.6393461]

Butoden 3 is the best.
Story mode fags need not apply.

[Anonymous No.6394302]

>>6385858
>>6385883
>>6385896
>>6385926
>>6385943
In Europe we had lots of it since the 80's, hell, some of us worked directly with them to produce it.

[Anonymous No.6394380]

>>6394302
Wait, Star Street was animated in Japan?
I remember reading about Star Street being sort of censored in USA, and only released in VHS format, not broadcasted on TV. Not sure what the problem was, though. Maybe the fact some of them weren't wearing any pants.
Cancer-chan was my waifu!
I also have fond memories of some other euro-japanese productions, like Willy Fog, Dogtanian, and Once Upon a Time

[Anonymous No.6394431]

>>6382828
Dragon Ball was a masterpiece.
Not that I used the past.

[Anonymous No.6394437]

>>6382828
>>6382828
Dragon Ball was a masterpiece.
Note that I used the past.

[Anonymous No.6394502]

>>6394437
I really only consider the canon DB to be the original 42 volumes of the manga.
For Super, I see it as filler stuff with blessings by Toriyama, but it's not really DB anymore if Toriyama isn't doing the manga.
That said, I enjoyed Super for what it was, really liked the Zamasu saga (mostly because of Trunks), and was super hooked on the multiverse tournament. But yeah, I take Super in the same way I take the old TV filler and movies. Which sometimes was great. I still love the early DBZ filler episodes, they were high quality in terms of art and animation, and they have a particular comfy atmosphere.
My main problem with Super's atmosphere was the same as with most other modern anime, the digitalization of animation is a bit sterile compared to old traditional cel animation with hand painted backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.6394615]

>>6394502
I couldn't say it any better, brother.

[Anonymous No.6396175]

>>6394380
Yes

[Anonymous No.6396240]

>>6394302
The comics of Boes and Dommel are incredible and I recommend any comic fan to try them out, I'm sure they're available in english somewhere.
Also what's that show beneath Boes and Wiki the Viking? I don't remember that one.

[Anonymous No.6396250]

>>6379829
I weirdly enjoy those NES games, though you need to cheese or grind the fuck out of them.

[Anonymous No.6396257]

>>6394502
Yeah it still takes time to get used to the more modern look of the BoG movie and Super. The new Brolly movie is incredibly well written and has an amazing pace. Also, every main character just shined in that movie and everyone felt like characters instead of the same old spiel they always did with the dragonball movies before BoG. Not that those movies couldn't be fun to watch, I mean they usually had great fighting scenes but the plot was very hit and miss (especially the first brolly movie god I think my head hurt because of the stupid story).

As for early filler, I think that in most of the original DB it felt more like they added more to the world building, something I really love about the first part of dragonball and that slowly faded away since the start of Z. The filler episodes with Gohan travelling around was fun too, I should rewatch them sometime later.

Haven't checked the Super manga yet but I heard that the Moro arc had some surprising twists.

[Anonymous No.6397708]

>>6396257
Early DBZ had some good filler. The Gohan stuff was pretty good, especially love the episode with the robot, and the episode where Gohan learns about life and death, his baby dino friends gets eaten by the big dino... when Gohan finds out, he starts crying, but then he wipes out the tears, and gives a sort of badass smile. Then in the next episode, he's the one chasing the big dinosaur, eating his tail, which was in the manga, so they blended actual manga parts with filler in a very neat way. It develops Gohan's character, while in the manga it just jumps from gohan still being a crybaby, to gohan already being badass.
I actually still haven't watched the Broly movie or read the Super manga. Good to know it's worth watching, I will definitely check them out.
I thought BoG and RoF movies were so-so. BoG was good only for introducing Beerus, and RoF felt kind of unnecessary really.
I think the main problem is also that they adapted those 2 movies and made them into Super arcs, so I got really bored of those. Also, my main issue is with RoF, it kind of ruined the inclusion of Freeza on the multiverse tournament arc. If RoF never happened, having Freeza back would have been incredibly hype, but coming after RoF, it's more like "oh it's freeza again".

[Anonymous No.6398612]

>>6379579
I've been playing a translated ROM of this lately. I like it, but I have little clue what the fuck I'm doing. Does this game have timed hits or not? Because there are times where it seems that the AI will just get an extra attack for no reason.

[Anonymous No.6399407]

>>6385784
It's certainly a faster and cleaner looking than the PS1 version.

>>6390660
Try:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/saturn/574103-dragon-ball-z-idainaru-dragon-ball-densetsu/faqs/23410

[Anonymous No.6399643]

>>6396240
Mrs. Pepper Pot

[Anonymous No.6401712]

Best are DBZ II and DBZ III on Famicom, and DBZ 2 and DBZ 3 on Super Famicom.

[Anonymous No.6401778]

>>6397708
Most of it amount to nothing because Toei gotta still stood by Toriyama's rules!, and let's not forget that the filler in DBZ also got pretty damn bad, garlick jr saga anyone?

[Anonymous No.6401786]

>>6401778
I mean, obviously filler is still filler, but some of it is really good.
Yeah, there is also really bad filler, with cheap production values and silly plots. Some of these silly filler episodes are still legendary though (like the one where Goku and Piccolo get the driving license, which is actually based on an illustration Toriyama did), but then yeah, there's just bad filler like the Garlick Jr mini arc. At least the Garlick Jr movie has really good animation.
But I honestly really enjoy these early DBZ filler episodes, good animation, good art direction, and plot is fun too. The Gohan episodes were more adventure-oriented reminiscent of original DB, also that episode where Goku dances tango with the snake princess, pure gold.

[Anonymous No.6401787]

>>6397708
Seeing so much of what Gohan goes through makes Piccolo all the more relatable, too, since you can fathom he's seeing all the same things from afar. Makes his sacrifice all the more impactful.

[Anonymous No.6402010]

>>6393461
it played very nicely. it just sucks there were only like 4 characters that weren't ssj.
id play the fuck out of a MK Trilogy treatment of the Butodens and Bu Yu Retsuden.

[Anonymous No.6403186]

>>6385907
I remember one from the eighties saying that Transformers was boring trite that will be forgotten forever. Also people talking about how outdated Zelda 1 is and Adventure on Atari was better.

[Anonymous No.6403908]

>>6402010
>id play the fuck out of a MK Trilogy treatment of the Butodens and Bu Yu Retsuden.
Same here.
Butoden 3 plays the best, but I don't like how certain characters got nerfed, and how doing the jump+qcd kick move would result in you bouncing off the other character instead of being able to stay close and keep connecting hits, that was much better implemented in Butoden 2, but Butoden 3 has a much seamless ground/sky transition and is better balanced toward certain things (like you can't spam regular energy-ha while flying).
Shin Butoden on Saturn could have been that dream game we want, with Butoden 2/3 gameplay, and a big ass roster, but alas, they made an awful game.

[Anonymous No.6404602]

>try to play butoden 2 online
>get absolutely wrecked by japanese guys
d-domo arigato

[Anonymous No.6405821]

The Game Boy games are underrated

[Anonymous No.6408048]

>>6404602
get good

[Anonymous No.6409360]

The PC Engine game is interesting.
Did anyone play the Bandai Playdia "games"?

[Anonymous No.6410879]

the only one I played was DRagon Ball GT Final Bout and I never wanted to play another dragon ball game again.
Did I miss out?

[Anonymous No.6411862]

>>6388115
Sad that Bandai never continued this series. This could've replaced Budokai 0.5 aka Final Bout

[Anonymous No.6411870]

>>6411862
It really is a shame, we only got up to the end of the Namek saga. No androids, no Cell, no Boo.
>This could've replaced Budokai 0.5 aka Final Bout
Well, dunno if it would have been a replacement because Super Gokuden games aren't fighting games, more like VN/RPG games, but they could have used the budget for doing a Gokuden 3 instead of shit like Ultimate Battle 22.
Final Bout is atrocious, but at least it has some sort of justification for being the very first DB 3D fighting game.

[Anonymous No.6411940]

>>6379579
This game was pure kino

[Anonymous No.6412282]

>>6411940
Not retro

[Anonymous No.6414092]

>>6410879
>Did I miss out?
oh boy, yes you did.
go play the butoden games and hyper dimension

[Anonymous No.6414150]

>>6412282
It is.

[Anonymous No.6414157]

>>6414150
GBA is not /vr/ anon, released after the year 1999, but what do you think of the Game Boy DBZ games?

[Anonymous No.6414319]

>>6380097
>now I am become super saiyan, the destroyer of Freeza.

[Anonymous No.6414827]

>>6414157
>released after the year 1999
so was legendary super warriors. is that also not retro?

[Anonymous No.6414830]

>>6414827
Referring to the system the game runs on, anon.

[Anonymous No.6416357]

>>6414157
these GB games are kinoe

[Anonymous No.6416824]

>>6411940
This game was fucking awful dude did you even play it?

[Anonymous No.6417653]

The NES game is kind of underrated

[Anonymous No.6417874]

I have no idea how to play this game. I go into training and the computer does crazy shit like super dashes and instant knockdowns but I suck at it and am pulling off little two-frame punches.

[Anonymous No.6417882]

>>6417874
I think in VS mode, you can access the moveset list... otherwise, check them online.
Butoden 1 is pretty comfy in terms of graphics and music, as usual with these games, but they REALLY improved the gameplay on the sequels.

[Anonymous No.6418152]

>>6411940
NO it fucking wasn't. LOG II and Buu's Fury maybe, but the first was trash.
>>6412282
Shut up.

[Anonymous No.6418260]

>>6417653
Which NES game? That infamous game that was called dragon power or the card battle RPG's that were based on the first sagas of DBZ?

[Anonymous No.6418910]

>>6417874
I remember playing what appeared to be a bootleg of this game with 8 bit graphics. The gameplay was unbearably slow paced and floaty, and I generally despised it.

However I remember this unintentionally hilarious moment involving Goku’s fatality esque win animation where he chucks a small genki dama into the background. I happened to be fighting Kid Gohan on Kame Island the first time I triggered it.

Having just finished several uneventful matches prior, I was initially quite surprised when Goku began to slowly rise off the ground with the dama in hand. My sense of foreboding quickly turned into elation as the resulting explosion engulfed the entire island. The screen then fades to black just as the blast reaches its apex, implying the almost certain demise of Goku’s friends/family.

Oh how I laughed and laughed. I’d appreciate it if anyone could tell me what version of the game that was. I’d love to have a gif or webm of that priceless moment.

[Anonymous No.6419142]

>>6379579
Hyper Dimension, Legends on Saturn, or Dragon Ball Z 2 Super Battle on Arcade.

[Anonymous No.6419875]

>>6379579
literally any of those dragon ball be games. dB 3 Goku Den, Saiyan densetsu, gekishin frieza, super Saiyan densetsu and ressen are all fucking amazing. and legacy of Goku 1-3 are pretty good too but they're not really retro

[Anonymous No.6419878]

>>6397708
Battle of the Gods movie is good and worth watching if sorta cheesy, Resurrection of F is kinda retarded but worth watching, avoid the anime retellings of these movies. The rest of the anime arcs of Super are kinda like guilty pleasures, I can't lie they are pretty shit in many ways. The Super manga is a bit better, I actually think the Zamasu arc in the manga is close to being legitimately great. Broly movie is the best DB material we've had since the the OG series ended. The Moro manga arc is interesting but sort of a retread of previous plot beats.

[Anonymous No.6419885]

>>6379724
that one is god like

[Anonymous No.6420043]

>>6385858
>unexpected fool
Weeaboo/wannabes = originally 4chan joke

[Anonymous No.6420047]

>>6412282
>>6414157
Who care douchebag

[Anonymous No.6420051]

>>6385869
>>6385809
t. ugly above clown

[Anonymous No.6420053]

>>6385869
You deserve to kys

[Anonymous No.6420057]

>>6385943
Weeaboo is just term for people smoke weed n bong.

[Anonymous No.6420068]

>>6420043
Yeah, weeaboo was filter for wapanese, the word itself took from a web comic in a different context.
Doesn't change the fact that "weeaboo" caught on. In the end, yes, the thought of anime fans being weirdos is not new, and as I said, the same happens with people who get in any nerdy hobby, like comic fans or video game fans. It's just anime was still niche or semi-niche during the 90s, and was still definitely a novelty for american audiences, other than boomers who watched Astro Boy, Kimba and Iron Man 28 back in the 60s, or Speed Racer in the 70s, Mazinger, Heidi and Robotech in the 80s, but in the 90s it all exploded with Akira (well, late 80s, but still), GITS, DBZ and Evangelion, among many many others.
What weeaboo did in the end was just give people who don't like anime/like to troll anime fans a funny word to make fun of them. In the end, a filter that was intended to stop shitposting became a widespread general meme.
And yeah probably most kids who use "weeb" nowadays probably don't even know it's originally weeaboo, or why is it used. Even though googling know your meme isn't hard, most probably don't care about meme origins.

[Anonymous No.6420079]

>>6420068
Yet as being honest. Sinoaboo (China bootlicker) are the very terrible.

[Anonymous No.6420650]

>>6420043
it was the wordfilter for wapanese, since moot was sick of people posting it
pretty sure there's still a banner that includes the word wapanese

[Anonymous No.6421698]

Pic related is the obvious answer, but Hyper Dimension is underrated

[Anonymous No.6423105]

>>6421698
based super chadtoden 2

[Anonymous No.6425279]

>>6379724
If you're going to cheat, you might as well post the actual best GBA game.
Although 2 was the better installment and game.

[Anonymous No.6425947]

>>6425279
the game of the post you replied to is a Game Boy Color game.