/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6379226]

>Funamizu: We knew we wanted to go in this direction, graphically speaking, from the very beginning. We increased the efficiency of our coloring workflow with Darkstalkers, and thanks to that, we were able to free up extra manpower which we spent on more animation frames for the characters.

http://shmuplations.com/vampire/

[Anonymous No.6379234]

I don't get why this series isn't more well-regarded. It's the foundation of pretty much every Capcom fighter after SF2, as well as influencing the genre as a whole.

[Anonymous No.6379240]

Why did they put World of Darkness branding on VSav though? And then they called it Darkstalkers 3 for the home release. Did White Wolf sue over the name Vampire and this was the settlement? Did they ever even use it in America?

[Anonymous No.6379246]

>>6379240
According to someone that used to work for White Wolf, they successfully argued that their target audience is weeb-y enough that the Japanese name would become common knowledge no matter what, so it should count. Supposedly, the judge bought it and the brand deal was part of their settlement.

Of course, this story was told by a psychotic tranny that's even too weird for an SJW company like nuWW, so this might all be delusions from a broken mind.

[Anonymous No.6379254]

>>6379240
>Did White Wolf sue over the name Vampire and this was the settlement?
Not so much suing, but it was indeed likely the case that Capcom really wanted to use the name "World of Darkness" for some reason, and found that it had already been trademarked, so they licensed it from White Wolf. Note that that the first Darkstalkers game, whose title was simply "Vampire" in Japan, had to have a Tezuka Productions copyright notice, simply because, again, Capcom really wanted to use the name "Vampire", but it had already been trademarked.

[Anonymous No.6379258]

>>6379246
>a psychotic tranny that's even too weird for an SJW company like nuWW
Hill or Veeres?

[Anonymous No.6379274]

>>6379258
That was oddly quick. No idea.

[Anonymous No.6379284]

>>6379234
I think it's pretty highly regarded among enthusiasts. It just didn't have as much of a cultural impact as the big guns like Street Fighter. Personally, Vampire Savior is one of those games that rises to the level of "perfect" to me. That game feels like it was given to us from beings in another dimension.

[Anonymous No.6379302]

>>6379284
I wouldn't really even say that. Even among hardcore fighting game players, there is no shortage of people who shit all over Darkstalkers.

[Anonymous No.6379312]

>>6379302
You think so? Guess I haven't met them. Ah well, DS kicks ass. You and I both know it.

[Anonymous No.6379320]

>>6379226
I remember stories of James Goddard suggesting the design be based around the Universal monster movies. Even opened their eyes to the concept of a succubus over just a generic female vampire. Pretty much it was Capcom USA doing most the legwork in planning the games.

[Anonymous No.6379332]

As a followup to the coloring thing from the OP: Something that Akiman has stated off the record is that the entire cel-shading idea possibly came from higher-ups seeing unfinished sprites during the development of previous games (like pic related) and liking the way they looked.

[Anonymous No.6379337]

>>6379320
Not James Goddard, Alex Jimenez. Different guy, but still a Capcom USA employee. He also came up with all the characters' names.

[Anonymous No.6379359]

>>6379337
Whoops, you're right ... I remember now. Names are not my strong suit. Goddard was the DeeJay guy ...

[Anonymous No.6379362]

Another thing about the switch to cel shading that Akiman has talked about is that it was a hurdle that helped the artists step up their skills. The lack of shading meant that you couldn't just polish a turd, you had to have very solid fundamentals. He was even initially against the entire idea because he wasn't sure that everyone at Capcom had the necessary skill to pull it off. But in the end they did, and that's how Capcom's fighting game sprites came to be known as some of the best pixel art of the 90s.

[Anonymous No.6379363]

>There was an Invisible Man too. The only thing the player would see would be his gloves floating there. It was another one where we wouldn’t need to draw many graphics…
This would honestly be pretty dope. Maybe not as the default view of the character, but as a darkforce for an invisible man this would be cool.

[Anonymous No.6379364]

>>6379258
I think it must have been Veeres. I remember a minor shitstorm in /wodg/ when Hill was still the Changeling: the Lost developer and was complaining about how fighting games are for man-babies, so why would she know a deep cut like the lawsuit story?

[Anonymous No.6379560]

Perfection

[Anonymous No.6379646]

>>6379226
Reading about the rejected characters is pretty funny. It's amusing to think that even the animators of Darkstalkers, the game with some of the most fluid and detailed animation in the genre, were ready to cheap out and make some dumb, easy to animate character.

[Anonymous No.6379954]

>>6379320
Based collection, but no CPS2 boards?

[Anonymous No.6380046]

>>6379226
They spent so much time making darkstalkers feel different, that in the end it didnt feek right. And the weird ass music sucks balls too. They should have settled for a danny elfman type of style instead.

[Anonymous No.6380052]

>>6379226 (OP) #
They spent so much time making darkstalkers feel different, that in the end it didnt feel right. And the weird ass music sucks balls too. They should have settled for a danny elfman type of style instead.

[Anonymous No.6380392]

>>6380052
How? Everything that was different about it later ended up in Marvel VS Capcom and such. But no one ever criticizes those.

[Anonymous No.6380790]

>>6379254
>Note that that the first Darkstalkers game, whose title was simply "Vampire" in Japan
Stop repeating shit you see on wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.6380837]

>>6380790
>doesn't understand the difference between a title and a subtitle

[Anonymous No.6381058]

>>6380790
That makes it worse. If their games are titled Vampire: The So-And-So that's an even stronger case for White Wolf.

[Anonymous No.6381062]

>>6379364
Turns out both those fuckers have twitters. I asked Veeres and ""she"" says it was """her."""

[Anonymous No.6381071]

>>6379226
I'm not a big darkstalkers enthusiast even though I love the idea because I have never played it, but watching it through the internet it looks like a really good looking game. Wished capcom didn't convert to 3D and the ugly designs but it was a right step in marketing, sadly.

[Anonymous No.6381263]

>can only play the ps2 collection on easiest difficulty so the AI isn't total fucking bullshit
>blurry as FUCK
fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.6383007]

>>6381263
Are you people really having this much issue with the CPU in arcade mode?
Are you playing the first or second game? Because Vampire Savior's arcade mode is fairly easy.

[Anonymous No.6383015]

>>6383007
first

[Anonymous No.6383360]

>SEX
>CATS

[Anonymous No.6383373]

>>6379560
Shit port

[Anonymous No.6383389]

>>6383360
I think there's a "Y" there if you squint hard enough, so it's probably supposed to be "Sexy Cat's." Also the cat on the sign has a different outfit, it's a tuxedo in this sketch when it's a cheongsam in the finished game.

[Anonymous No.6383392]

>>6379234
I don't know either. lack of advertising maybe. I'm sure they could make a new modern title and with the right marketing behind it would turn out to be a hit

[Anonymous No.6385232]

>>6383007
Does the AI default to hardest difficulty or something in the collection? Because otherwise you’re right that the default arcade CPU is easy

[Anonymous No.6385282]

>>6383373
Why?

[Anonymous No.6385293]

>>6383373
No.

[Anonymous No.6387251]

Not gonna let a Darkstalkers thread die.

[Anonymous No.6387531]

>>6383360
God I wanna fuck a cat

[Anonymous No.6387664]

>>6383373
>>6385282 here
Still awaiting for your explanation on why you think it's a shit port. It's probably one of the best arcade ports I've ever played.

[Anonymous No.6389991]

>>6387251
The hero we deserve.

[Anonymous No.6390548]

>>6379954
I would love to have those, but they are really expensive. Even the superguns are really costly. I just have to settle for home ports and emulation until I win the lottery and have the room to have an arcade cabinet around.

[Anonymous No.6390762]

>>6383373
still waiting for your explanation.

[Anonymous No.6390778]

Soul

[Anonymous No.6390783]

>>6390778
What's coming out of Lilith's mouth?

[Anonymous No.6390787]

>>6390783
Nevermind, just realized it was her other wing.
Morrigan's bat-heart seems to be coming out of her mouth, so I assumed something else would come out of Lilith's mouth too.
Felicia's tongue is cute!

[Anonymous No.6390828]

>>6390787
Lilith is a downgrade of Morrigan in expressiveness. Good thing she has some fun moves.

[Anonymous No.6390832]

>>6390828
She has a lot of great animations.
Pic related never fails to make me diamonds.

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>>6390969
>>6390949
It looks like Lord Raptor's stung sprites are an edit of his burn one.

[Anonymous No.6393469]

>>6383373
Still waiting for your explanation, broski.