/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6378314]

ignoring the downgrade in gameplay, was panic on funkotron any good?

[Anonymous No.6378320]

maybe

[Anonymous No.6378324]

>>6378320
maybe?

[Anonymous No.6378326]

>>6378314
It's decent. There's some fun exploration in getting through the levels and finding secrets. It feels really slow and tedious sometimes though.

[Anonymous No.6378329]

I wouldn’t say it was a downgrade. I don’t know why people harp on this. They’re two different genres. If anything, I feel like TJ&E1 as a roguelike gets fairly stale without any real combat or progression systems, while 2 has pretty good secrets and oddities for a side scrolling platformer.

[Anonymous No.6378353]

I rented toe jam and earl in 1992. It didnt make sense i remember wandering around and never figured out the point.

Mom was out of town we rented total recall and had little Caesars as well.!

[Anonymous No.6378369]

>>6378329
at the very least the game could've had a run button that wasn't tied to limited powerups

[Anonymous No.6379671]

>>6378314
tj2 is a great game. it is best played as a 2-player co-op. otherwise you won't see all of the jokes and gags.

[Anonymous No.6379803]

>>6378314

TJ&E2 always seemed like a great game, but.. wtf was I supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.6380501]

>>6379803
the game tells you at the beginning 1 of 3

[Anonymous No.6380503]

>>6379803
2 of 3

[Anonymous No.6380507]

>>6379803
3 of 3
also check 'em

[Anonymous No.6380524]

>>6378324
maybe

[Anonymous No.6380558]

>>6378314
>downgrade in gameplay

Considering the Gameplay in the first game was already pretty sparse, it was a bad decision that reeks of having been made by some suit at the publisher who just saw the popularity of platformers and thought it would be a waste of 'franchise potential' if they didn't try to jump on that bandwagon.

[Anonymous No.6380979]

I like it more than the first game. There's a reason Sega forced the devs to make another side-scrolling platformer - shit worked well.

[Anonymous No.6381020]

>>6378314
How is a genre change a downgrade? Sweet topicfrie d

[Anonymous No.6382539]

>>6381020

Well back in the day some people were annoyed that they dropped the only thing that actually made them stand out.
sooooooooooo many other platformers, so few rogue collecathons.

[Anonymous No.6382958]

>>6380524
maybe

[Anonymous No.6383069]

>>6378314
It’s a good game. It just gets shit because it’s not more like the first one.

[Anonymous No.6383110]

Grew up with 2 but 1 as a kid was really something special. 1 also make for a better coop game than 2 which at the time with my brother was a major factor as the options were to either play together or take turns. Both are great games but 1 was more special at the time due to the larger range of freedom it gives your buddy.

I do respect 2 for making easy mode unwinnable. If you beat easy mode (not even half of the game) it tell you to quit being a pussy and play the full (normal) game instead. Even then the normal game have multiple endings depending if you found all of the secret items or not. Toejam & Earl 2 I felt was one of the few games that didn't insult me just for being a kid at the time and took it players seriously. Of course nowadays accessibility is a thing people like to debate about and I don't want to open that can of worms personally but if you get the best ending of Toejam & Earl 2 then it is only because you mastered everything the game could offer to you. The game respect the time and effort you put in. The only "accessibility option" I can recall is limited powerful items that you gotta find in the first place and unlocking perma super jars which is a pain in the ass in of itself that require mastering a minigame thing that arguably harder than the base game itself if your timing is shit.

[Anonymous No.6383161]

While I respect what the sequel tried to be, I can't help but wish we'd have gotten the original intended game instead.
the one that resembled the first game in style and with the whole humans on funkotron story.

[Anonymous No.6383339]

I bought TJ&E the day it came out, my copy had a fucking fruit roll up inside. Anyone else have that happen back then?

[Anonymous No.6384795]

>>6378314
Thoughts on the newest game?

[Anonymous No.6385603]

>>6382539
Wow it's almost like platformers sold more than roguelikes on console. What could have been added to a T&E roguelike sequel anyhow? The first game really nailed it

[Anonymous No.6386958]

>>6385603
>What could have been added to a T&E roguelike sequel anyhow?

I'd be willing to guess they'd have tried adding houses like in the final map shown in >>6383161
And maybe allow you to go inside them and talk to people? they probably would have used the same story of humans holding on to the spacecraft and running amuck on Funkotron. maybe allowing for portals to reach hidden smaller maps containing secrets and all that stuff.

[Anonymous No.6386986]

The original game had a hot tub with naked girls. You can't make a sequel and NOT include that again.

[Anonymous No.6387027]

I have a thing for this game because a childhood buddy of mine always brings this up when talking about retro games. It was way too wacky, but until emulators were a thing, I didn't even know there was a Toejam & Earl game before this one.

[Anonymous No.6387193]

>>6386958
I dig the enthusiasm, but isn't the whole point of PoF centered on rounding up humans in jars because they're all invasive unreasonable pricks? Wouldn't that sour the whole "interacting with them" angle?

More to the point, wasn't combat a last resort in T&E for situations that required it? I can't imagine catching peeps in jars would feel as snappy as the twin stick shooters it would inevitably be compared to. The whole game engine would need an overhaul. Not that I'm entirely opposed to that notion, jus'sayin'.

[Anonymous No.6387248]

>>6387193

No I mean, a rogue like version of the platform game, so a map with alien houses on it with people like peabody to talk to.
as to the human catching part, I guess the roles would have been turned around. and instead of humans being dangerous you'd have to catch them instead.

Not sure how that would have worked, the first game does show that you can sneak up to Santa so.. maybe they'd have come up with various ways to catch the humans.

Someone should really ask them on Twitter or something, like "what was the original plan?"

[Anonymous No.6387396]

>>6378320
>>6378324
>>6380524
>>6382958
But... maybe..not?

[Anonymous No.6389986]

>>6387396
Possibly?

[Anonymous No.6390087]

>>6378329
Toejam and Earl was so much fun with a friend though

[Anonymous No.6391152]

>>6387396
perhaps

[Anonymous No.6391182]

>>6391152
Could be

[Anonymous No.6391559]

>>6379671
Co-op is only fun until you get to the bounce pads. Its unplayable at that point.

[Anonymous No.6391792]

>>6384795
it's fun

[Anonymous No.6392686]

>>6391559
Good point. What I learned after playing online is that you have to designate one player as the lead and the other to follow otherwise it falls apart as you said.

[Anonymous No.6392721]

>>6383339
first result on google

https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?107826-Genesis-Pack-in-Fruit-Roll-Up

[Anonymous No.6392775]

>>6387193
To be fair the new game does a good job designating helpful humans (the D&D geeks, Carrot Guy, Opera Singer, and Gandhi) from enemies.

[Anonymous No.6393331]

>>6392775

And in the original game you just read this in the manual, people tend to forget how helpful manuals used to be.
aaah sneaking up on Santa was such a defining moment.