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>32-bit
>2D
>runs on batteries
>cartridge based system
>ported games from the 4th and 5th gens
Does the original GBA have enough merit to be considered a retro handheld? Janitor, I'm only making a case for this little guy, not the 6th gen consoles.

>> No.6376154

>>6376140

I agree. Minish Cap is rarely brought up in /v/, and its illegal here.

That gem is stuck in purgatory.

>> No.6376163

I really don't know what's so difficult for zoomers to understand about this. /vr/ is 1999 and earlier. That's it. That's what it always was. That's what it will always be. Cut and dry.

>> No.6376168
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>>6376163
This might be hard to believe, but GBC and GBA are 3 years apart in release dates. I'm not disagreeing with you on the rule, but if you're calling GBA a zoomer handheld, then that also applies to the GBC.

>> No.6376169

>>6376140
"Merit" is irrelevant. The cutting line is simple enough to understand op

>> No.6376171

>>6376168
I'm not calling the GBA a zoomer handheld. I'm calling you a zoomer for being unable to read.

>> No.6376173

>>6376168
The zoomerishness doesnt apply to the console, but to the inability to understand an extremely simple and gray area-less principle to this board

>> No.6376176

>>6376171
I respect the rule for 6th gen consoles being early modern machines rather than late retro as some zoomers want to claim. The GBA, on a spec level, is a handheld SNES. I'm coming from a tech angle, not a nostalgiafag angle.

>> No.6376178

>>6376140
>32-bit
>2D
>cartridge based system
>ported games from the 4th and 5th gens
You can say the same for the DS for those things. It can barely do 3D but it was as much a 2D system.
/vr/ is about an era, 1999 and before. Trying to broaden the definition is like saying the industrial revolution is part of the renaissance because both occurred more than 100 years ago.

>> No.6376181

>>6376178
True, but the DS had touch screen and a folding lid. Those are two very distinctive modern features. And while it was mostly 2D early on, 3D caught up with it into the peak of its lifespan. I'm not even including the DSi or 3DS.

>> No.6376184

>>6376178
>False equivalency

>> No.6376186

I guess it depends. If games came out between 2001-2008, some can almost be considered retro. GBA also turns 20 next year, and some of the early GBA titles (i.e: Super Mario Advance, Golden Sun, Bomberman Tournament) turn 20. But no one can consider a GBA game that came out in like 2006/2007 retro yet.

>> No.6376187

>>6376176
Was it released in or before the year 1999? Your answer to this question is the same as your answer to whether it should be allowed here.

>> No.6376193

>rule is generations
>DCfags shitpost endlessly to get DC considered 5.5 gen and not 6th gen like the rest of the world because "ME WANT"
>"THIS TOTALLY WON'T LEAD TO PEOPLE TRYING TO GET MORE 6TH GEN STUFF ALLOWED, STOP TRYING TO ARGUE THAT!"
>today
>The GBA shouldn't be considered 6th gen because reasons
Still waiting on the apology from the DCfags. Still know I'll never see them admit they were wrong.

>> No.6376196

>>6376181
a version of the GBA also had a folding lid

>> No.6376197

>>6376187
Fair enough, that's understandable. Now, if the big round number rule wasn't applied here, would (You) consider it retro? Now I'm simply asking for your personal opinion.

>> No.6376202

>>6376196
Which is why I said original GBA.

>> No.6376203

>>6376193
DC was released in 1999 - thus is within the rules. fucking hell this isn't rocket science people ..

>> No.6376204

>>6376193
I'm a DCfag and I made this thread. I still think 6th gen consoles don't belong here though.

>> No.6376206

>>6376163
Yeah and that's an autistic rule. You know it was made specifically to exclude the PS2 and later because those consoles didn't feel retro in 2014, but in 2020 with the PS5, it will be as many gens behind as PS1 is now. And don't try to tell me PS2 games from 2000 and 2001 and earlier don't have that retro feel.
Besides, it should be a rolling rule based on games and not consoles. If the game is old enough to post on this site, it should be allowed.

>> No.6376210

>>6376196
A version of the SNES can be held within the palm of ones hand.

>> No.6376215

>>6376206
>Besides, it should be a rolling rule based on games and not consoles
But its not.. rules are rules, son. don't like it then tuff

>> No.6376216

>>6376197
"Retro" is arbitrary. Having an opinion on what's retro is meaningless.

>> No.6376218

>>6376210
Its not a version of the Snes. Its a GBA.

>> No.6376219

>>6376140

In due time it will be.

>> No.6376220

>>6376163
>>6376163
You don't have to be a zoomer to enjoy the game boy advance senpai. I'm old enough to remember and enjoy the system. I think it deserves more attention. The only thing that bothers me a bit is all that shovelware from nickelodeon and those awful franchises. But most games were amazing.
I could understand the ps2 not being discussed in here because the thing died very very late.

>> No.6376221

It's 2020, it's about time every system from sixth gen be allowed on /vr/, don't you lads think?

>> No.6376223

>>6376215
No shit sherlock, but I'm not the one defending an autistic rule just because I'm scared of le PS2 boogeyman

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>>6376206
We're talking about the GBA from a technical side, not 6th gen consoles. I don't want to derail the thread with zoomer opportunists, but the rolling time limit argument is not strong enough considering 7th gen games are not retro in form. Making the argument for 6th gen is making the argument for 7th gen down the road.

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>>6376140
Enough

>> No.6376228

>>6376220
What does its ability to be enjoyed have to do with being retro?

>> No.6376230

>>6376223
My point is regardless of how much you shit up this board and moan its not going to change anything. Rules be rules.

>> No.6376231

>>6376181
>touch screen and a folding lid. Those are two very distinctive modern features
Shut the fuck up.

>> No.6376232

>>6376216
So you don't have an opinion? If it's meaningless then you're breaking your conviction to follow the rules because it based on arbitrary standards as you say.

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>>6376140
NO! NOT RETRO!

>> No.6376239

>>6376231
It's true, zoomy. DS can't piggyback on GBA being allowed because they are very different and the game libraries/tech specs of each one speaks for itself.

>> No.6376243

>>6376225
Ok well, with the exception of the original Game Boy, handhelds are always a few gens behind in power, so that doesn't change the fact the GBA is squarely 6th gen. And what would be wrong about discussing Perfect Dark: Zero in 2025 when that game will be 20?

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6376245

>When you realize the GBA is far more retro than emulating 3rd gen on a modern PC with ultrawide OLED along with upscalers and shaders

>> No.6376246

>>6376230
Yeah, hence the no fucking shit, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna bitch about it.

>> No.6376247

>>6376239
If you don't think folding lids and touch screens in 2005 were anything but modern you need to fucking head out.

>> No.6376249

>>6376246
Bitching about rules is against the rules.

>> No.6376253

>>6376243
>Ok well, with the exception of the original Game Boy, handhelds are always a few gens behind in power, so that doesn't change the fact the GBA is squarely 6th gen.
No, because you're comparing GBA to 6th gen. The GBA on its own is retro in form and the games it has. Of course, holding the PS2 next to a PS4 will make it look older, but the PS2 on its own is an early modern console.
>And what would be wrong about discussing Perfect Dark: Zero in 2025 when that game will be 20?
Because, again, you're making the argument for 7th gen being a purely modern console by allowing 6th gen consoles which are early modern. Dreamcast is an exception because it died early and the majority of the library were arcade ports. It was the last of its kind.

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>>6376249

>> No.6376258

>>6376228
Dude, all the games are snes ports, snes sequels, uses retros assets in their sprites, the thing is basically a snes. A lot of niggers in here use modern pc's, emulation devices made in 2015 and they don't get their post erased.

What's the matter with something from 2001? Even the fucking dreamcast made games past those years. Gba is more retro than a lot of the shit in here.

>> No.6376259

>>6376247
Anon...that's what I'm saying. Lids, touch screens, and rechargable batteries from a hardware point are all modern.

>> No.6376261

>>6376178
DS is not a cartridge system. It copies game data to its own RAM instead of addressing ROM chips directly.

>> No.6376260

I do agree that the GBA would thematically fit on the board, but it's probably better not to add anything else to the board. Otherwise we'll get a repeat of the Dreamcast shit and have people begging for the next wave of consoles.

>> No.6376263

>>6376140
>release year 2001
Not retro. On this board the cut off date is December 31st, 1999.

>> No.6376264

>>6376140
Hiro, please hurry up and make the /v2k/ board.

>> No.6376265

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd3vJYdenHKFIlJkh-HR5dAiJ9UtJ4qwp

>> No.6376267

>>6376263
Anon, I get that. But don't be a soulless automaton and actually have an opinion for yourself. I'm asking YOU if you consider it retro.

>> No.6376271

>>6376263
>Not retro. On this board the cut off date is December 31st, 1999.

So is emulation on modern PC's retro? By that definition?

>> No.6376273

>>6376258
Read the sticky faggot. If the console came out after 12/31/99 then it ain't retro here. Don't like it? Leave!

>> No.6376274

>>6376267
I'm of the mindset that this board isn't for "retro games", so much as "games from before the turn of the millennium". Retro is just an easier term to use.

>> No.6376278

>>6376267
do you consider the rules?

>> No.6376280

newfags were a mistake

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>>6376245
Thanks for reminding me. I forgot 3rd gen was also ported. Somehow it even got an official release of DOOM.

>> No.6376282

>>6376271
Yeah, because the game was originally released on console that qualifies. That's why things like Sonic Adventure 2 Battle talk usually doesn't get deleted.

>> No.6376285

>>6376267
This is the board where we discuss video game consoles released in 1999 or earlier, along with the games released for said consoles. Call that retro. Call it what you want. That's what this board is.

>> No.6376287

>>6376278
Yes of course. Now after we agree we get the rules, I'm asking for your personal opinion. Don't answer a question with a question, that's some soft shit.

>> No.6376289

>>6376267
No I don't consider it retro because it can link up with the Gamecube. If we allow the GBA then eventually GBA threads will become stealth Gamecube threads. There's a reason we call it the Gamecube trojan horse.

>>6376271
>emufag
An hero.

>> No.6376290

>>6376259
Nice reading comprehension.

>> No.6376294

>but does it FEEEEL retro?
No. And if it did, that would mean jack shit. La-Mulana feels retro. Cave Story feels retro. What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>> No.6376295

>>6376285
Are you all incapable of having personal thoughts? I'm not asking for the rulebook because I know what the rules are and I understand them. I'm simply asking for your personal opinions. I'll make it easier for you.
https://www.strawpoll.me/19884523

>> No.6376296

>>6376193
Well, Dreamcast was 1998, and allowing it makes it easier to discuss the entire Sega console repertoire in one forum.

>> No.6376297

>>6376295
Perfectly capable. I just recognize that my personal thoughts are irrelevant in these matters.

>> No.6376298

>>6376294
Lmao those games do NOT feel retro. Not even aesthetically.

>> No.6376301

>>6376290
Likewise.

>>6376289
>There's a reason we call it the Gamecube trojan horse.
Fair enough. I finally get something close to a real answer. But, Gamecube zoomers and peripherals aside, on its own as a handheld, would you consider it retro?

>> No.6376302

>>6376295
>personal thoughts
That would make our opinions subjective. We must remain objective. So no GBA is not retro on this board and it never will be.

>> No.6376304

>>6376221
>it's current year
Go back, I don't want this to become the /v/ shithole.

>> No.6376305

>>6376297
Anon, that's what I'm asking though. Your thoughts are relevant to me. I don't need the rules because I know what they are and I respect them. I'm simply getting a feel from this board if the GBA should be an exception. That being said, again, I know the rules.

>> No.6376306

>>6376301
I do not.

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>>6376181
>folding lid
>distinctive modern features
zoom zoom