Infinity Engine Thread

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Infinity Engine Thread Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:19:38 2020 No.6356698 [Reply] [Original]

Men are pathetic edition

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:23:13 2020 No.6356707 First for Viconia and Shar-Teel portraits are the same person.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:26:04 2020 No.6356715 >>6356707 haha so imagine if they kissed right, it would be like black and white twins haha gross

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:26:37 2020 No.6356718 >>6356698 >inb4 thread is sieged by angry incels

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:27:45 2020 No.6356723 >if it bleeds i can kill it >i dont have time to bleed i really like the predator references that come along with shar-teel

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:28:05 2020 No.6356724 >>6356718 flattery will get you nowhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:29:47 2020 No.6356732 Reminder that playing a melee character with anything less than 18/00 str. is literally a bad character and you should reroll it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:31:39 2020 No.6356740 6356732 b8 dont reply

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:34:23 2020 No.6356751 @6356732 If I had a copper for every moron I've run across spouting this, I could buy Baldur's Gate

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:38:35 2020 No.6356760 >>6356732 >anything less than 18/00 str. is literally a bad character This is untrue as 18/91-99 bonus is only slightly inferior (1 thac0, 1 dmg).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:44:57 2020 No.6356771 >>6356698 >Issue a command before Shar-Teel finishes her sentence >"Men are-- OK!" Stunning character development

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:49:45 2020 No.6356780 [DELETED]

>>6356740
>>6356751
This is what I'm talking about. like the guy is making a joke about, you know, the thing that literally happened half an hour ago, and your response is what?
>OH. MY. GOD. THIS IS EMPIRICALLY FACTUALLY A PROVOCATION, DO NOT FALL FOR THIS BAIT ON THE HOOK, IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO MISLEAD, WAKE UP SHEEPLE
This is what the left means when they refuse to speak to you dumb fucking trumptards. You are such humorless dullards it's actually cringey and you fixate on trivialities so much you drive everyone around you insane. Seriously, have some self-awareness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:50:30 2020 No.6356783 wowie zowie another autistic shit flinging general

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:50:49 2020 No.6356785 dont respond

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:53:34 2020 No.6356791 >>6356785 Spectacular, just spectacular, it took you 150 goddamn posts to finally, FINALLY not be a dumb fucking moron. Not so quick on the uptake, huh? Truly amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:53:55 2020 No.6356793 >>6356760 That's a HUGE difference even in the early game

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:56:06 2020 No.6356795 >lol i was merely pretending :) sad

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 11:57:45 2020 No.6356796 >>6356795 Why are trumptards so constricted to the realm of black and white?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 12:16:20 2020 No.6356836 any way to make your own ui mod?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 12:20:13 2020 No.6356838 >>6356783 yeah pls stop bashing each others heads in over subtleties, guys. not everybody has time or wants to put in the effort to be a full-time D&D expert.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 12:30:38 2020 No.6356869 >>6356838 It's hard when your personality type is "piece of shit" and so you perfect your mastefully crafted "art of argument" over the internet for as many gotcha points as possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 12:32:49 2020 No.6356876 >janny deletes my shitpost about 18/00 str retardation LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:15:54 2020 No.6356958 >>6356698 this bitch was a thing before feminazis were a thing, btw this bitch is extremely nifty if you dual class her to a thief.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:26:19 2020 No.6356979

>>6356836
You'll probably have better luck asking on gibberlings3 or spellhod studios forums, but even on the EE I guess it requires some knowledge of BG modding in general.
You can start here
http://www.shsforums.net/topic/36781-comprehensive-ie-modding-tutorial-index/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:28:44 2020 No.6356982 >>6356979 What about beamdog forums

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:33:25 2020 No.6356990 >>6356958 >btw this bitch is extremely nifty if you dual class her to a thief. or you could just use Coran.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:35:06 2020 No.6356994 >>6356982 sure why not

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:36:34 2020 No.6356997 >>6356990 dem early backstabz tho not optimal, she's better as a fighter archer, but fun

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:47:11 2020 No.6357018

Coran is pretty cool, actually.

>>6356718
You literally put her in her place when you meet her, and to get her to join your party.

>>6356793
I don't think it is, it's a nice bonus, sure, but it's not like a Fighter with just 18/50 Strength, 18 Dexterity, and 18 Constitution, won't be hauling ass in melee (or with longbows), assuming he's got his proficiencies, upping that to 18/00 Strength isn't going to tip the scales for any of the battles in the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:50:24 2020 No.6357026 >>6357018 Takes 5 minutes to get 18/00, you may as well get it unless you really want the other stats.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 13:59:43 2020 No.6357041

>>6357026
The other stats add up, such as Charisma, and Intelligence ends up being pretty crucial not just for if dualclassing as a Mage, but for fighting Illithids in the sequel, likewise Wisdom matters for dualclassing as a Cleric or Druid or something.

>>6356958
Nah, those date back to Suffragettes. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:02:49 2020 No.6357053 >>6357041 He's playing a pure fighter with shorty saves. Can't dual-class!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:07:01 2020 No.6357064 >>6357053 If he's got shorty saves then he definitely can live without the tiny bonus from full 18/00 Strength.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:09:06 2020 No.6357071 >>6357064 You sure are bossy, aren't you? Let the individual roll their 18/00.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:10:01 2020 No.6357078 >>6357071 Let the individual roll any Strength stat they want. Please don't write another hundred posts on this tired subject.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:16:36 2020 No.6357104 File: 1.38 MB, 640x480, 1.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gee look I just rolled 18/00, which took me a whopping minute of my time, and so you should totally not do it because it could take hours!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:19:05 2020 No.6357114 >>6357104 what do i do if i want to have 18 charisma, or 18 wisdom if i wanted to dual-class into cleric?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:19:55 2020 No.6357118 >>6357114 Lower your criteria to 91-99.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:21:05 2020 No.6357120 >>6357118 but that would take a long time and i believe to be really not that worth it, 90+ rolls are already hard enough to get and there's a very low chance you'll get an 18/00 strength score along with one such roll

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:24:44 2020 No.6357127

>>6357120
In my opinion, a character you're expecting to play for dozens of hours across the whole series is worth 10-20 minutes of rolling for good stats (doubt it would take that long), but you can always settle for whatever highest sum comes out during the time you're comfortable to dedicate to the process. The store function is there for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:27:19 2020 No.6357135 >>6357104 I get the feeling that rerolling and saving stats is much more generous in EE. Didn't take long for me to get a character with 96 stat points to spend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:28:11 2020 No.6357142 >>6357135 I did it on vanilla, though. No mods.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:28:16 2020 No.6357143

>>6357127
you have a very low chance of getting a 18/00 strength score along with max dex str, dex, con, atleast 15 intelligence so you dont get your brains slurped by mind flayers in bg2, and 18 charisma, it would most certainly not take 10-20, it could take atleast an hour
and you can increase your strength to 19 with the tome of strength anyways so it pretty much does not matter, youll be using ranged weapons most of the time anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:30:07 2020 No.6357150 >>6357142 sure, I know. I guess sometimes you just get lucky like that. Perhaps BG2 stat rolling is harder. Haven't tried EE yet but in BG2 old version it can take a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:33:00 2020 No.6357162 >>6357143 Please re-read the post you responded to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:34:37 2020 No.6357171 >>6357150 I did it 3 times. Took me. >2 minutes >8 minutes >1 minute Doesn't seem to be too bad on average.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:35:26 2020 No.6357172 >haha guys i was just pretending to be retarded, lol, jannies deleted my "shitposts" XD >still stands by his absolutely retarded point zero self-awareness, jesus christ

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:45:50 2020 No.6357202

>>6356997
In the original I always had her do what she loves: in the thick of things with a two handed sword. She had two pips in small swords so throwing daggers were adequate if ranged was really needed. Her poor con is more than made up for by the tankier half of the Shar-Teel/Kagain frontline dream team.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 14:56:26 2020 No.6357226 Seriously don't anyone have anything to say about this fucking game or do we really have to shitpost about 18/00 for another day or two

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:00:55 2020 No.6357238 File: 2.16 MB, 640x480, literally free experience.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6357226 Yes, here's an excellent strategy on how to defeat Ankhegs and rack up some easy XP early on.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:35:47 2020 No.6357318
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>>6357238
Hell yeah brother. I'm not proud of this, but the last time I played through BG1 I took the route of exploring the 40+ outdoor maps the game has to offer and gaining enough XP organically to reach the 161k XP cap by the time I started the TotSC content. What a fucking drag, seriously. Sometimes it seems like everyone else just doesn't get what makes this series so great.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:53:29 2020 No.6357375

>>6357226
I mean, I tried to start a necromancer run and got sick and tired of being party wiped by A wolf. Typical BG experience I guess. Trying not to use the typical Montaron and Xzar team.

>>6357238
I just get a cleric or druid to use Command. Typically gets the Ankheg knocked out and should be enough time to beat it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 15:58:02 2020 No.6357387

>>6357318
Sounds awesome, dude. Me? I savor every last inch these game have cause OG infinity engine is great. Gotta uncover all the fog of war and whatnot. I'm pretty excited to try the Fighter/Thief in BG2, but I'll take my time with BG1 for sure. Feels kind of weird to know what golden pantaloons are for already, but I'm certain there's plenty of fun stuff for me yet.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:01:07 2020 No.6357392

>>6357375
>I just get a cleric or druid to use Command. Typically gets the Ankheg knocked out and should be enough time to beat it.
Had no idea command would work on them. I think you'd be short on time on a level 1 party, though. Still have to keep reloading until the ankheg decides to melee you, but yeah - sure gives you pretty much unlimited time to club it to death.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:30:33 2020 No.6357454

>>6357392
For real, I tried reading up on all this dorky D&D junk and attempting to understand how the spell system works but when I got to that point myself I figured it was a better use of my time to jerk my team furiously in and out of melee range and quickload every time the Ankheg spits his acid and one-pumps somebody. I'm like "dang, I got 18/00 strength and everything, can't the game get with the program already???" haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:48:10 2020 No.6357503 File: 40 KB, 202x133, Screenshot 2020-04-20 at 10.28.08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6356698 currently playing a comfy low-challenge game (it's a time of all dwarves)

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:48:54 2020 No.6357504

Playing through BG1 as a cavalier currently. I'm starting to think ahead to BG2, and I want to experiment with different party comps. I've beat the game using all good and all evil/neutral parties, but I've never really ran with a mixed party. Right now, I'm looking at Charname, Imoen (for plot), Viconia (best girl), and S come ToB. Not sure who else I want to take though.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:55:45 2020 No.6357525

>>6357454
>"dang, I got 18/00 strength and everything, can't the game get with the program already???" haha
Genuinely how I felt after rolling 18/00 with high stat pool for 3 of my chars for IWD1 for an hour lmao. But it was so worth it for that game with all that combat.

Refreshing to see that kind of twitchy gameplay, though. In fact I was always puzzled whenever ankhegs showed up in IWD games or BG2, they seemed so pointless somehow, and the armor out of their shell wasn't even good. I guess it was all a throwback to the original game. Especially with how they bug out and spawn 3 or more at a time if you start save scumming. Beats me if that was even intended and why it only happened after quicksaving next to them, but boy was it vexing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 17:10:53 2020 No.6357564 If you roll 18/00 for strength, you're probably a racist bigot.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 17:22:04 2020 No.6357585

The funny thing is that at least in BG series you don't even need high 18 STR percentage because in BG1 you will use the STR tome for yourself as there isn't anyone else eligible anyway and in BG2 you can buy the 19 STR belt or find the 18/00 gloves pretty fast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 17:25:06 2020 No.6357587 >>6357504 >I'm starting to think ahead to BG2, Not retro >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 17:49:11 2020 No.6357625 making a strength-based character at all is implicit cryptofascism because it promotes the fascist aesthetic why wouldn't you just make a sensible character, like a mage or a bard or something? the mind shall vanquish the sword after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 19:22:17 2020 No.6357774 >>6357625 >implying you can't be a Bard or Mage with 18 strength Heck the mage could be a multi with based 18/00 strength

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 19:30:47 2020 No.6357786

>>6357135
I still have my level 1 generated character in vanilla 5 disc BG.
Paladin
Str 18/22
Dex 18
Con 18
Int 10
Wis 14
Cha 18
I got 18/80 in my previous but total was 95.
I regret it for deleting it because 18/2x is far inferior to 18/8x.
And I made 14 Wis because I want spells.
Didn't know they introduce mindflyers who suck your brains in BG2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 20:58:34 2020 No.6357967 >>6357104 Boy, are you petty. >>6357786 Yeah, they fucking do, it's not permanent, but if they drain your Int down to 0, you die, ergo Minsc is naught but a morsel for them, and actually is at pretty high risk if fighting them in melee.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 21:23:59 2020 No.6358034 Reminder that potions of mind focusing increase both your INT and your DEX, hence your AC Don't leave home without them

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 21:43:43 2020 No.6358096 >>6357967 Come to think of it, the 18/22 strength only matters in early part of the game. Once I found the Strengh manual, it became 19. >Minsc Died a lot (baka has 8 int) during my early games until I realized a spell could protect him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 21:47:45 2020 No.6358105 >>6358096 My solution was to stick him with bow and arrow, which he was pretty mediocre at, but at least it was support.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 21:52:47 2020 No.6358119 Speaking of low Int, I was thinking of picking up Yeslick in the mines and then sending Coran to the Friendly Arm (for now, anyway), but is Yeslick any good? He's a fighter/cleric.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 22:01:45 2020 No.6358141 >>6358105 That's what I did most of the time. I only need 1 tank and my Paladin MC is one. Sometime I used Minsc if party is surrounded with lots of creatures. And lich slaying because he's immune to Maze and Imprisonment when he's berserked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 22:03:45 2020 No.6358147 >>6358119 I used him once and he's better than Viconia/Branwen if you give him the dex glove. You can fix his strength with DUHM. Got shorty saves too and more HP I think.

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 22:09:23 2020 No.6358163

>>6358119
Fighter cleric are fucking great
And yeah he is good, only downside is that he cant use wands of heaven, but aside from that he's a great melee fighter who will reach fighter 7 and thus be as efficient as any other full class fighter in the game, except he also comes with cleric spells and particularly, buffs.
Give him Ashideena and he will kick some ass
Only downside is his mediocre dex, but you can give him gauntlet
And you can fix his suboptimal STR with the level 2 mage spell strength, and cast draw upon holy might in combat to get above 20
He will have a great melee thac0, and great AC if you give him the gauntlets (duhm also further increases DEX of course)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 22:45:25 2020 No.6358237 >>6358147 How's his Cleric-ing though? He's got low int so he can't use scrolls and staves, right?

Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:00:52 2020 No.6358282

>>6358237
Not sure about his Cleric skill.
He's multiclass so I doubt he'll hit the max level in BG+TotSC for Cleric.
8th level Cleric (max for single class Cleric in BG+TotSC) has +1 level 3 and 4 spells per day compared to level 7 (assume his max Cleric level is 7).
He can't use wands but the only wand a Cleric can use is the Wands of the Heaven.
He can't use scrolls.
My MC is a Paladin so he can use the Wand of Heaven and scrolls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:09:17 2020 No.6358314 >>6358282 I see. Well, I still have Vicky for healing, buffing, and wanding.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 01:43:19 2020 No.6358639
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>visit Firewine Bridge
>get accosted by some old goon who was just about to flagellate himself
>asks if I've heard the good world of Ilmater, the crying god of suffering
>ohboyherewego.jpg
>tell him no, none of us are worshipping such a tedious and boring god
>talks about how good and joyous it is to suffer for Ilmater, how it opens your eyes to seeing and 'avoiding evils such as lust, greed, perversity, and arcane magic'
>tell him some of my present friends are mages
>flips out
>tells us to change 'our evil ways' and how wicked spellcasting is
>says he's going to continue his fucking sermon
>what I must do to become faithful to Ilmater is to get rid of all my worldly possessions and meander the world for the rest of my life, suffering for the sake of others
>tell him that sounds dumb and that I have better things to do
>replies snidely about how he pities the lot of us and how we're fools clouded by our vices
>storms off, flagellating himself

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 02:23:49 2020 No.6358694 File: 87 KB, 642x614, endmylife.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck, how do I get the game to not crash to desktop when I use the orb in the Planar Prison and spawn the warden? All I'm running is fixpack + SCS. No EE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 02:49:43 2020 No.6358714 >>6358694 I don't know but perhaps you should just run EE and call it a day then. I guess you should search the net for this issue and its solution before that though. I always do that when I encounter performance problems in games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 02:55:43 2020 No.6358720 >>6358694 Does the crash send a report of some sort?

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 02:56:43 2020 No.6358723

>>6358694
Googling this, the only thing mentioned is the AI being prone to bug out in there.

I have no experience with SCS, but maybe you could try to lower the AI setting to easiest if that's possible? Otherwise, backup the save, and reinstall everything in proper order.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 03:34:46 2020 No.6358762 The best part of Firewine Ruins is all the free Fire Arrows.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 04:06:01 2020 No.6358808

>>6358762
From the kobolds?
I remember playing in my old computers (Pentium 120).
Entered Firewine Ruins, those kobolds keep respawning.
Whenever I cast Detect Evil (char is Paladin), it spams "Kobold - Evil" in the dialogue window.
Had like 30+ Kobolds with some Kobold Commandos.
Pretty irritating because it slowed down my game.
Later I realized, I can keep them from respawning if I left someone on the respawn point.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 04:16:53 2020 No.6358820

>>6358639
I have no idea how in a fantasy world where gods are actually real there are followers of shit gods like Ilmater or Lolth. Like, bruh, just pray to Sune or Tymora instead. Also followers of shit gods get shit afterlife because their souls are now in their fucked-up gods's domain for the rest of eternity, have fun getting fucked in the ass by demon spiders or getting electrocuted while you're drowning if you chose the bitch queen WOKE-in in life.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 04:34:37 2020 No.6358843

>>6358820
Ilmater is not that bad though and that priest is on the negative side and interpretation of insanely dogmatic so I think it's not even all that true what he says about Ilmater. Ilmater is pretty much like Jesus (dies for your sins etc.) from what I always understood. Lolth is just for power-tripping evil characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 04:38:15 2020 No.6358853 >>6358843 Ilmater = self-sacrifice

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 06:27:30 2020 No.6358983 >>6358714 No assurance that it will fix anything, I ran the originals with SCS for years and never had a crash here

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 07:48:01 2020 No.6359034 Samuel fucking died, what should I edit the global variable to if I want to reset his timer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 08:59:51 2020 No.6359098 >>6359034 18/00

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:27:04 2020 No.6359137 File: 437 KB, 702x634, readying swing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359098

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:42:02 2020 No.6359156 File: 1.94 MB, 640x480, literally free thac0.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3 minutes this time around Literally more interesting than playing the game. You have no excuse not to 18/00.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:44:09 2020 No.6359162 >>6359156 No one cares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:48:54 2020 No.6359165 >>6359162 Kill yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:51:05 2020 No.6359169 When the Overton window shifts 18/00 will be socially acceptable again, you mark my words, you goddamn libtards REEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:52:14 2020 No.6359172 >>6359169 t. falseflagger

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 09:54:47 2020 No.6359179 File: 128 KB, 1899x1075, xQ7Z7ED.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359162 >>6359165 Give him a break. This game is too hard for him. He can't get pass the character generation process.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:00:51 2020 No.6359189 >>6359179 You're kind of asking that of a guy who called the other guy that didn't care the n-word. Cool, but what's the point?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:06:16 2020 No.6359194 >>6359156 >>6359169 Please take your fucking Aspergers medicine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:10:16 2020 No.6359203 >>6359194 Woah, bro, chill. It's not really worth it if you need more points for dual-classing. I got 91-99 like 4 times during the time it took to 00.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:21:27 2020 No.6359215 File: 118 KB, 1080x1080, papers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://strawpoll.com/7gcye7bp

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:26:00 2020 No.6359228 >>6359215 i voted yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:26:39 2020 No.6359231 >>6359215 I'm also adept at defeating Ankhegs, you know. Don't sell me short.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:29:32 2020 No.6359238 >>6359215 >This poll was created by an anonymous StrawPoll user from Sweden. I thought swedes were more tolerant and not racists. Shame on you, mister.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:53:30 2020 No.6359274 >>6359034 you're asking someone to go through all the fucking variables in the game so you can get 500 xp and a shitty potion? turn around and sell him to the flaming fist, it should work even with his dead body

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:07:57 2020 No.6359298 >>6359238 käftenblatte >>6359274 I pretty much immediately realized that I should do it myself, because of that exact reason, though I didn't find much conclusive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:11:00 2020 No.6359304 >>6359298 I mean if you're willing to "cheat" anyway, you can just console in the XP and item, it would probably be a lot quicker

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:18:31 2020 No.6359321 I'm finally there. Level 5 mage. I went with basic bitch Conjuror. I really just want to be a wizard, school specialization is only a half-assed means of getting extra spells and conjuror has the most ups with the fewest downs in vanilla BG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:20:41 2020 No.6359326 >>6359321 know that you will never be as powerful as me, simian monkey

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:22:19 2020 No.6359329 >>6359326 based and literally redpilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:25:50 2020 No.6359336 >>6359326 Have you understood the "mouse magic" that makes you do my bidding?

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:26:31 2020 No.6359337
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Turns out that I could just alter the global variable to the highest possible, and that was enough, and I'm a faggot. That has me wondering, when reading one of these variables as a timer, is it straight up just counting it as the whole number of seconds, turns, or some kind of other set internal timers such as tics?

>>6359304
You're right about that.

Thing is that I forgot that this quest was actually timed; I figured, well he might as well have just died straight away, and obviously the priest will just rez him when we get there, so I'm not in a hurry.
>go to Nashkel (since it's on the road), turn in some wolf pelts, sell some trinkets
>move on to Beregost, go to the Jovial Juggler and have a three day drinking bender
>go to Thunderhammer Smithy and sell some more trinkets, buy a shield
>presumably carrying this Samuel guy on my shoulder the entire time
>Samuel *probably* died sometime when I was chugging cheap ale
>probably too drunk to notice him voiding his bladder/bowels on me
>show up at the Friendly Arm like 6 days from picking him up
>priest tells me "Yeah, he's dead. He looks terrible, I can't do anything for him."

So I end up feeling like an absolutely irreverent and careless fuckhead, especially telling his lady friend that I was gonna fix the situation, learning that my actions/inaction had consequences. I was probably trying to fudge it out of guilt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:28:25 2020 No.6359339 File: 481 KB, 1920x1080, Baldr003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359336 Don't talk to me or my 30 clones ever again

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:29:35 2020 No.6359342 >>6359339 Wow, together they must have almost 5 Charisma!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:37:50 2020 No.6359360 >>6359342 These thayvian males are as red-blooded as their cloaks, and have likely left your sisters and mothers gasping under their erotic onslaught

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:50:13 2020 No.6359395

>>6359339

Ah yes, the high level mage strats.
Like sending in the Projected Image with 3 ADHW on enemy in a Chain Contingency as shock troops.
Or covering the entire Mana Forge in Skull Traps and Fireballs before the final Ascension battle.
Good times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:50:42 2020 No.6359396 >>6359360 *neurotic onslaught

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 11:57:50 2020 No.6359415 File: 487 KB, 1280x1731, Edwina.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359339

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 12:04:35 2020 No.6359438

>>6359415
Silly anon don't you realize it's only *gender* that's changed? Edwin cannot grow boobs from changing gender! He's merely perceived differently from the societal standpoint as a *female*

From the wiki
>changes the sex of the wearer immediately (although the in-game description states that gender, not sex, is changed), altering their appearance but not voice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:28:52 2020 No.6359759 File: 645 KB, 1920x1080, ring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6356698 this thing is pure flavor right? or is it possible to weaponize this by reverse pickpocketing it into someone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:33:13 2020 No.6359773 >>6359759 It's educational if you didn't get the message from the belt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:35:29 2020 No.6359775 >>6359759 IIRC you can put it on Jaheira and then Khalid will eventually leave her.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:11:08 2020 No.6359885
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>>6359438
>From the wiki
>>changes the sex of the wearer immediately (although the in-game description states that gender, not sex, is changed), altering their appearance but not voice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:20:08 2020 No.6359906 >>6359759 I guess you can wear it if you want to farm xp by repeatedly killing vampires summoned by limited wish (Edwin's too wise to get that option).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:34:23 2020 No.6359925 >>6359885 The description clearly says gender you shitlord. How dare you not infer this distinction BioWare graciously left for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:46:31 2020 No.6360459 >>6359215 anybody who doesn't vote no is either mentally ill or just some troll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:56:34 2020 No.6360489 >>6359339 Not retro though

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 19:06:40 2020 No.6360518 File: 53 KB, 450x650, af37dcc3726159fad304c7ac69ffe3ca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359415 >thinking that's Edwina

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 19:07:30 2020 No.6360523 >>6360489 yeah sure we should only talk about vanila BG1 and ignore the very existence of anything else nigger

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 23:04:06 2020 No.6361156

ha, i just remembered - this was my first experience with any sort of D&D related game, i think i must have been about 14 when i first played it, so it was pretty challenging at the time to get used to it (desu i generally just winged my way into finding the easiest, cheesiest possible solutions to problems, and to be fair while it wasn't really great from a pure beating the game fairly point of view I loved discovering how broken things like set snare/special snare were back when i first played the game)

anyway - i remember my older brother watching me play it for a little while when i was still raw, and my strategy was literally just to try to magic missile/fireball everything to death with edwin because for some reason direct damage always seemed more attractive to me, think i lacked the patience for indirect effects/most buffing and to point and click at anything that moved with a warrior heavy party. He ended up watching my first encounter with the shadow dragon, which went about as well as you could imagine (think it was a total party kill in <30 seconds, entire party got fucked up by fear effects/wing buffet and it just picked everyone off one by one) and him bursting out laughing

i have no idea how i managed to pretty much blag my way through the game the first time around.

Playing through Shadows of Amn again with ToB for the first time after installing it and single handedly ruining Bodhi and her entire lair with one or two planetar summons was great fun too

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:34:43 2020 No.6361493 >>6359194 Kill yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:35:46 2020 No.6361496 >>6359179 Kill yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 00:38:17 2020 No.6361506 >>6360459 Kill yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 02:05:17 2020 No.6361731 >>6361156 That's how many of us started with it, just blast stuff through. The rules can be quite daunting at first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 02:08:24 2020 No.6361741 >>6359194 >>6359179 >>6360459 Kill yourself, nigger samefag.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 02:14:13 2020 No.6361752

>>6361156
Dad: You know, son, I once killed a mighty dragon called Firkraag.
Son: Wow, you're so cool, dad! How did you do it?
Dad: Easy, son. I just buy a Wand of Cloudkill and toss a couple of Cloudkill then wait till the dragon dead.
Son; Dad, you're suck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyYqzXaaBUg

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 03:47:18 2020 No.6361916 >>6361752 Way to waste your cloudkill wand. Firkraag won't get aggro'd if you keep clicking on him to initiate dialogue. Your party can go at it hacking away in the meantime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 04:30:14 2020 No.6361986 >>6361741 Take your meds

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 04:31:07 2020 No.6361987 >>6361986 >EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE /pol/ BOOGEYMANG BECAUSE I SAID SO XD actually kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 04:36:50 2020 No.6361994 >>6361987 Take your meds You don't even make sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 04:37:43 2020 No.6361996 >>6361994 >EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE /pol/ BOOGEYMANG BECAUSE I SAID SO XD end your life

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 05:00:12 2020 No.6362026 ok this is epic all that is required now is the 18/00 fag to put on a trip and then we'll become a real general

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 05:49:13 2020 No.6362085 File: 1.36 MB, 640x480, absolutely and literally free thac0.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6362026 By golly, how could I refuse? 3

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 06:07:34 2020 No.6362103 I hate attention whores so fucking much

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 06:12:19 2020 No.6362105 >>6359194 >>6359179 >>6360459 Kill yourself, nigger samefag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 06:13:21 2020 No.6362106 >>6361986 >EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE /pol/ BOOGEYMANG BECAUSE I SAID SO XD actually kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 06:14:23 2020 No.6362107 >>6361994 >EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS LE /pol/ BOOGEYMANG BECAUSE I SAID SO XD end your life

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 06:23:14 2020 No.6362120 File: 144 KB, 233x358, Minsc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6359179 >He can't get pass the character generation process. And he felt he completed the game when he rolled 18/00.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 07:48:31 2020 No.6362182 what's a good site with mods for IE games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 07:49:28 2020 No.6362183 >>6362182 Gibberlings3 has everything you need, spellhold studios has everything you dont need but is still nice regardless

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 08:12:02 2020 No.6362198 They used to call me Disciple

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 08:54:01 2020 No.6362256 >>6362103 This is why I hate trannies and furries. >>6359438 I mean look at this. This was just a silly joke about a cursed item and then some wikifaggot felt so offended that he had to ruin it for everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 08:55:49 2020 No.6362257 SJW'S ARE RUINING MAH VIDEO GAME

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 08:58:23 2020 No.6362261 >>6362256 kill yourself already you fucking retard

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 08:59:46 2020 No.6362264 >>6362103 Watching triggered alt-right snowflakes like you seethe is top-notch entertainment, bud. Don't ever change, you're winning.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 09:33:28 2020 No.6362325 >>6362256 I only pasted that because I was surprised they would shoehorn gender theory as if the devs balanced the mechanics around it. Hardly shocking you would get butthurt from that, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 12:34:06 2020 No.6362650 >>6361752 >>6361916 Eh, Dragons are for XP farming. Just Lower Resistance + Doom/Greater Malison + Feeblemind them and then spam all your Flesh to Stone/Stone to Flesh slots you have. It's like Ankhegs, only slightly less dumb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 12:43:01 2020 No.6362664 >>6361916 Just fucking Enrage, Firkraag is a moist bitch who can't tolerate shit.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 12:48:58 2020 No.6362685 >>6362650 >single, unrespawnable instance of a character >XP farming What? Also, wouldn't stone to flesh destroy Carsomyr? And why turn back the dragon to flesh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 12:55:42 2020 No.6362707 Reminder that tripfags are for filtering and nothing else

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:11:09 2020 No.6362762 >>6362685 > wouldn't stone to flesh destroy Carsomyr? Yes, and? > And why turn back the dragon to flesh? To turn it back into stone again, of course. Every successful petrification counts as a kill and nets XP. That's the farming part.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 13:33:48 2020 No.6362830 >>6362762 Yeah, it came back to me that's how awarding XP for petrification worked. It's more like glitching, though. Surely they fixed that in EE.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:36:16 2020 No.6362835

I'm genuinely curious what compels people to want to XP grind in a game that doles out:

- Thousands of XP for writing a spell
- Thousands of XP for disarming traps and opening locks
- Tens of thousands of XP for quests, sometimes even to each party member individually

On top of the XP for killing mobs via normal progression through the game. BG1 gives you dozens of free exploration areas and BG2 gives you dozens of quest leads the moment you leave Irenicus' dungeon. So what impulse is driving you to forego the natural progression of the campaign? Do you think you're gonna fight emerald weapon or some shit?

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Wed Apr 22 13:49:07 2020 No.6362854 >>6362835 I don't usually do it unless it feels like I'd enjoy it more if the party had a few more levels at that given point in the playthrough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:51:20 2020 No.6362858 >>6362835 It makes the numbers go higher, man! How else will you hit the level caps on your FMT after removing XP cap to live your power fantasies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 18:14:57 2020 No.6363352 Can't say I like side quests that force absence of companions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 18:32:57 2020 No.6363391 >>6362257 You sound like a seething falseflagger and a tranny cuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 18:33:59 2020 No.6363393 >>6362261 Seethe harder. Cope HARD in your discord, tranny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 18:35:01 2020 No.6363395 >>6360459 >>6359194 >>6359179 >>6359162 Kill yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 19:31:17 2020 No.6363502 File: 1.08 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr073.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't even want the dagger, it's just the principle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 19:36:07 2020 No.6363515 >>6362257 You sound like a seething falseflagger and a tranny cuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 19:37:10 2020 No.6363518 >>6362261 Seethe harder. Cope HARD in your discord, tranny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 19:38:11 2020 No.6363519 >>6360459 >>6359194 >>6359179 >>6359162 Kill yourself, nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 02:33:56 2020 No.6364276 ME WILL CRUSH CRUSH INTO GOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 03:45:22 2020 No.6364380 Never realized you could actually give some of the treasure from the Ankheg horde to the poor farmer.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 05:00:37 2020 No.6364442 >>6364380 I did. I stashed like 15 of their shells in the chest at his abode. Mind you, I did that for personal reasons, but I doubt I'll return to retrieve them.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 05:08:29 2020 No.6364457 >>6364380 Whoa, you were right. I missed the extra dialogue as well. Thanks, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 05:47:22 2020 No.6364493 These threads went to shit real fast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:08:26 2020 No.6364512 >>6364493 They were great until the 18/00 autism. I created the ones before this one and I think I'll pass on creating more until the retards leave.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:13:49 2020 No.6364517 I wish it was autism, it's just one nutcase who skips his meds and won't shut the fuck up until his manic phase is over

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:26:26 2020 No.6364525

It'll be nice if we make it nice.

What members do you have in your party right now? I just picked up Yeslick, trading him for Coran. I liked Coran, and he's good, but I'm trying a bunch of companions this run, and I wanna know what Yeslick is about, I'll just RP that Coran will lead all the slaves to safety after the mine floods.
The rest include Viconia, Kivan, Xan, and Imoen. The Tweak to turn Xan into a normal Mage makes him a lot more useful.

18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 06:32:17 2020 No.6364531 [DELETED]

>meet Kirian who wants me to paddle her rump
>as a self-respecting incel with my alt-right beliefs I lunge at her with all my might, I won't be besmirched by this old hag (as is the case for disgusting wenches over the legal age of 15 like in my grorious nippon)
>the archer is way strong and evidently their main source of damage
>click on her to delay triggering the dialogue and close the distance
>check and mate
Heh. Nuthin personnel you vile incel-hating female.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:33:18 2020 No.6364535

>>6364525
Me, a dwarven defender
Korgan
Jaheira
Jan
Edwin
Viconia

I play with SCS maxed but wothout double damage so Jaheira could actually frontline before earth elemental. Still kinda wish I went more full casters, I never played that way. Maybe for my good pt I go bers/mage, Nalia, Imoen (with Imoen4Ever to save me from headache), Aerie, Jan and Cernd.

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 06:37:02 2020 No.6364538 >>6364535 You definitely should have went with 3 mages. That way you can haste the whole party pretty quickly. Also, tank for a PC is fairly dull.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:37:03 2020 No.6364540

>>6364525
Enchanters are pretty good imo, the only big spell they miss out on in BG1 are fireball and maybe web? But you can replace fireball with skull trap and wands of fire. And you won't miss out on the big evocation spells like sequencers until BG2 anyway. Also they get a save penalty to their enchantment spells, pretty neat in BG1.
Yeslick is pretty good, I've been taking him along on my last BG1 run and been pretty satisfied with his performance. Fighter/cleric are obviously a top tier class all the way, especially with SCS and Icewind Dale spells.
Also he has alright dialogue with NPC project.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:44:48 2020 No.6364547 File: 19 KB, 543x183, reminder.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] friendly reminder

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 06:56:38 2020 No.6364559

>>6364535
I play with double damage and you can usually use Jaheira in the frontline before the earth elemental token, after all she gets ironskins, and she can equip armor and pretty good gear overall, she can have a pretty good AC in addition to not taking physical damage until ironskin is gone
Insane damage becomes unbearable for full class frontline fighters in ToB, or in very specific instances like groups of golems, but they can manage relatively fine for most of SoA

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 07:03:57 2020 No.6364567 >>6364540 Enchanters lose out on so many offensive spells that scale. Sequencers, Sunfire, Mordenkainen's Sword, BBoD, etc. It's a great class for BG1 only where you're capped, but it just becomes a drag as you transition to BG2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:05:25 2020 No.6364568 >>6364567 good thing we're alking about Xan and not your shitty charname, shut the fuck up

>>	18/00 !V.CS1/USRs Thu Apr 23 07:13:54 2020 No.6364580 >>6364568 "Enchanters" clearly encompasses the PC, especially when the other anon mentioned BG2.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:18:13 2020 No.6364589

>>6364525
I'm a big fan of Yeslick, I really like Dwarven C/F. I finished my first SCS BG1 run with:
F/M Main Char
Yeslick
Kagain
Imoen (dualled to mage at 5 I think it was)
Kivan
Coran

Now I'm on BG2, almost finished with all the main Ch2 quests with:
Mage/Fighter MC
Mazzy
Jaheira
Jan
Nalia
Anomen

I wanted to pick some characters that I hadn't used before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:32:15 2020 No.6364607 >>6364580 >I have nothing to say but I must post take your meds, I'm done answering to your dumb shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:38:17 2020 No.6364624 Having actually adventured some with Coran this time around, I figure it'll make meeting and saving him in BG2 much more impactful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:43:28 2020 No.6364632 >>6364607 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:44:18 2020 No.6364634 Tfw installed sequencers as innate abilities but still can't be arsed to actually manage them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:44:33 2020 No.6364636 >>6364547 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:45:35 2020 No.6364638 >>6364517 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:47:13 2020 No.6364642 >>6362707 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:48:16 2020 No.6364645 >>6362261 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:49:18 2020 No.6364649 >>6362257 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:50:31 2020 No.6364652 >>6360459 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:51:33 2020 No.6364653 >>6359194 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:52:35 2020 No.6364656 >>6359179 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:53:37 2020 No.6364659 >>6359162 dilate tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 07:58:12 2020 No.6364665 >>6364624 >>6364525 Coran is HACK Fighter/Thief 20 Dex +++ Longbow

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:02:38 2020 No.6364672 >>6364665 Looks like someone can't compete with a charming fighter/thief.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:14:49 2020 No.6364681 >>6364672 >Luck be a lady.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:22:45 2020 No.6364691 >>6364672 He's also an elf, so bonus THAC0 for bows.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:33:11 2020 No.6364703 >>6364624 I kill him everytime in BG2 after having dealt with the werewolves, even though I almost never run BG1 without him Realistically, I'd probably be pretty tired of his bullshit by this point. But I really like the character nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:35:38 2020 No.6364705 File: 987 KB, 1920x1080, Baldr083.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:36:16 2020 No.6364708 File: 1.04 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr084.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:36:53 2020 No.6364709 File: 1.05 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr085.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Didn't think this is something I'd ever see followed up on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:37:29 2020 No.6364712 File: 1.01 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr086.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:38:27 2020 No.6364716 File: 1.10 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr087.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well, at least she has some closure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:51:14 2020 No.6364746 >>6364716 I actually stumbled across this in the wiki few days ago. BG1 was really a product of love, it really shows in these details.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:56:45 2020 No.6364758 >>6364746 It really is full of effort and detail. Makes the tacky writing for the EE characters feel all the more slapdash.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 09:05:17 2020 No.6364774 >>6357226 This is how I feel every time I see a Zelda/Mario/FF7 thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 09:21:10 2020 No.6364797 >>6364758 How did the old masters do that with less people, (arguably) worse tools, less time and less money? Compared to, say, Pillars of Eternity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 09:49:43 2020 No.6364848 File: 1.34 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr091.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 09:50:41 2020 No.6364851 >>6364797 I think the original devs actually had some talent and creative drive, while BeamDom are fairly lacking in such departments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 09:52:04 2020 No.6364854 File: 1.38 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr092.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Poultry Store

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:09:18 2020 No.6364875 >>6357238 The fuck is that? Was that actual micro? In a Baldur's Gate game? Is that the right way to play this kind of game?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:26:17 2020 No.6364904 >>6364875 The only right way of playing is your own and never listen to cretins telling you otherwise.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:30:12 2020 No.6364909

>>6364904
Wrong not as in pappy will spank me. Wrong as in I'm playing in an unenjoyable, unnecessarily tedious way and am missing out on cool features for no reason. In this sense, for games like these, there most definitely are right and wrong ways to play.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:44:28 2020 No.6364936

>>6364875
If you think that would be enjoyable, for sure.
Baldur's Gate is nice for how you fairly soon can walk over the completely trivial encounters, and then you're left with the more complex ones. Just issue orders, pause every now and then (for instance when an enemy is slain or something), and then issue new orders as the battle develops.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:50:10 2020 No.6364950 >>6364909 >baby needs to be told how to do things in a simple game Go be a sperg in an esport general. It's a ROLE-PLAYING game, you autist.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:50:55 2020 No.6364952
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This is honestly bullshit, and one of the few parts of Baldur's Gate which I would say is outright shitty. If you actually played a Paladin like this in a real tabletop game, you would be known as the Cunt Of The Evening.
The fact that you lose 3 reputation for defending yourself is the icing on the shitcake, as if it's not totally unprovoked aggression.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:53:48 2020 No.6364958 File: 1.54 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr095.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That shit is straight up not Lawful, roll a new character, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:54:18 2020 No.6364959 >>6364952 just don't worry about reputation, the game is more fun when you have to genocide the flaming fist anyway

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 10:59:27 2020 No.6364968

>>6364959
I can round up three good boy points again easy, I'm more protesting the idea that you'd put this kind of event in the game, especially putting the blame on the player.
This is the kind of thing a good DM will slap you with a rolled up newspaper for, tell you "WRONG.", then ask you to what your next move REALLY is.

Ever been at a table with a guy who actually plays like this? It's beyond infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:06:51 2020 No.6364982 >>6364952 It's even more bullshit in vanilla BG1, where you get the full innocent-killing reputation loss (potentially -9 reputation).

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:07:24 2020 No.6364985

>>6364968
Just don't see reputation as the game's moral compass, because it isn't anyway
After all you can just throw coppers at temples to have it increased
Just see it as an old and senile but popular Paladin popping a vessel and attacking you for no reason, of course you gut him but you lose rep in the process
Same with the more-or-less corrupt flaming fist members who keep trying to arrest you in chapter 7

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:11:49 2020 No.6364997

>>6364950
I've beaten both games with expansions back when they came out, dipshit. But I've never even attempted to micro. Now I wonder if it's some kind of standard way of playing it among the fans.
How the fuck are you so stupid that I have to spell this out to you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:20:54 2020 No.6365010 >>6364936 Use auto-pause.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:28:05 2020 No.6365024 >>6364982 it's -10 if you're at 19-20 rep. https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Reputation#Actions_and_deeds

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:31:06 2020 No.6365026

>>6365010
Not him but I find auto-pause more obnoxious than actually useful
You really don't need it even with difficulty mods, especially if you already know your way around the game, and I personally dislike the turn-based feel it gives
To each his own at the end of the day

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:33:02 2020 No.6365030 >>6364952 Paladins literally sense evil. Evil literally exists in that world and they can spot it. The paladin's actions make absolute sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:34:34 2020 No.6365034 >>6365010 Only for party deaths and running out of ammunition, it's too fucking obnoxious otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:37:47 2020 No.6365039 >>6365030 >lawful good >commit unprovoked aggression that could not possibly hold up in any court of law >BUH I SENSED THEY BE EVIL You're not allowed to play the Paladin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:39:00 2020 No.6365047 >>6365026 D&D is turn based. Bet you don't like ToEE then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:42:42 2020 No.6365056 >>6365047 No, not really It has some really neat ideas, and toee+ and co8 are both really good mods, but Baldur's Gate + SCS is definitely the better combat experience for my taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:45:28 2020 No.6365064 >>6365056 meant Temple+, obviously*

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:46:14 2020 No.6365068 >>6364997 >I'm an accomplished veteran! I BEAT these games! >however my creative aptitude is that of a wooden log, therefore creativity is bad Talk about being braindead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:47:32 2020 No.6365071 >>6365068 Not him, but what creativity microing your way through encoutners is one of the east creative things you can do in these games

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:51:52 2020 No.6365083

>>6365039
Son, I run classic D&D where alignments have Gygaxian alignment languages. Not only pure evil objectively exists in my classic OD&D (from which Faerun borrows tropes, sometimes unthinkingly), they speak unique languages. Lawfuls are born speaking a lawful language that is unteachable and unlearnable by anyone else etc.
And if YOU PERSONALLY don't want paladins like that in my game, just email me in advance and I'll just ask the paladin player to play a GLOG rat wizard or something instead, and remove all paladins from the hexcrawl. Problem solved, son.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:52:56 2020 No.6365086 >>6365068 I'm asking if it's standard practice among the fans to micro in BG. Do peeps often play like that? What the fuck does this have to do with creativity?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:54:03 2020 No.6365091 >>6365083 >Lawfuls are born speaking a lawful language that is unteachable and unlearnable by anyone else The what now. I would like to know more.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:55:48 2020 No.6365095

>>6365071
The fact that you couldn't do that because you were too stupid to figure it out. It's not something that your peanut brain can immediately utilize without prior knowledge.
>>6365086
>I'm asking if it's standard practice among the fans to micro in BG
Yes, the wikis are full of methods of glitching.
>What the fuck does this have to do with creativity?
See above.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:56:56 2020 No.6365097

>>6365083
The paladin is correct in his assesment that someone in the party radiates evil, he is however absolutely retarded and completely out of line with his very principles when he attacks the rest of said party without any attempt at rational discussion between lawful individuals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:58:04 2020 No.6365103 >>6365095 Oh it's just the fucking 18/00 retard again, still convinced that he invented fire by killing ankhegs, alright Put your fucking trip back on so I can be spared your stupid cunt posts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:58:35 2020 No.6365105 File: 55 KB, 346x322, WadaSmug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6365097 His alignment is Retarded Good

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 11:59:22 2020 No.6365107

>>6365091
Alignment languages. Each of the three basic alignments speaks one universal language from birth. Meet a chaotic and speak to them in a language lawful dipshits around you can't even learn. Gygax had that and my kind of crowd also does that. In the 80s peeps thought that was hideously unrealistic (ha ha) and it fell out of favour, but post-Gygaxian TSR is dead and buried while this shit is still alive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:00:27 2020 No.6365108 >>6365097 If you are comrades with objectively evil creatures, you are not a force for good. It makes total sense. >>6365105 Yes, give me more pathetic nineties game theory, daddy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:00:57 2020 No.6365110 >>6365108 He doesn't have a clue that you are comrades or whatever, he's just a lunatic

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:01:28 2020 No.6365113 >>6365095 >The fact that you couldn't do that because you were too stupid to figure it out. What makes you think I couldn't do it? What the heck is going on in your head?

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:02:31 2020 No.6365115

>>6365083
Paladins were changed away from that for good reason, it's autism (in that it interprets alignment with about zero nuance possible), it's just inviting a player to derail a campaign.
Also alignment languages were fucking retarded, which is why nobody today knows what they are either, because they had the sense to get rid of that too.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:02:54 2020 No.6365116

I mean it's not like DnD paladins, even Gygax era, are known for their mental abilities or complete absolute objective righteousness
The interpretation of how to properly act both Lawful and Good is a constant dilemma in the lore, and it's not uncommon that they manage to fail in both areas

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:03:01 2020 No.6365117 >>6365110 He is a D&D paladin. He has a built-in evil detector. And evil objectively exists. In the real world, morals are a complex and relative thing, but in D&D morals are like physics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:04:02 2020 No.6365119 >>6365115 Yeah, that's what they thought in the 90s. A lot of retarded shit went on in there and the hobby is still recovering.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:04:16 2020 No.6365120 >>6365108 So what if the Paladin detects evil in an unborn child? Will he just hang around the woman and then spawncamp until it's born and perform a post-birth abortion?

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:04:46 2020 No.6365125

>>6365117
Evil may objectively exist, that will never make attacking good or neutral aligned individuals without giving them a chance to help kill the potentially deceitful evil thing standing next to them in line with proper or standard Paladin behavior.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:05:14 2020 No.6365126 >>6365113 >b-but I could've if I wanted to, my potential is limitless, I just needed to act on it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:05:38 2020 No.6365127 >>6365120 He kills the child and is absolutely correct. It's fantasy morals that are incompatible with real-world morals. Very cool stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:05:39 2020 No.6365128 >>6365119 They did things wrong in the 90s, but making alignments less retarded was not one of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:06:10 2020 No.6365131 >>6365126 I killed ankhegs at level 1 when I was 8 You still haven't taken your meds and still haven't put your fucking trip back on, do both and rid of your stupidity

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:06:40 2020 No.6365134 >>6365126 No, I don't think it's worth it micromanaging your mother fucking BG units. What I was asking is whether it's common practice in the modern community. Do you have brain problems? Legit question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:07:04 2020 No.6365137 >>6365115 >which is why nobody today knows what they are either is this from the era where elf and dwarf are class (not race)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:07:29 2020 No.6365138 >>6365127 No, he can choose to and he will not fall. Except of course if he kills the mother along with it That doesn't mean that a paladin who chooses not to kill the child will fall. It's not as black-and-white as you try to make it out.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:07:45 2020 No.6365139

>>6365127
What about the actions of the child? He's yet to commit a single act of evil, how do you know he wouldn't wisen with age, perhaps become neutral or even good? Alignment change happens.

The idea of a Paladin running an abortion clinic is quite grotesque.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:08:05 2020 No.6365140

>>6365128
Alingment only ever works when it's completely detached from real world morals, because there are no points of connection that make any sense whatever. Enjoy the absolute fantasy or play a morally realistic game. But trying to do both is nonsensical--e.g. moral relativism... but with a nine-alighnment system also in place fucking lol).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:09:00 2020 No.6365142 >>6365137 Yes, it's really old shit. A lot of people who have been playing D&D since the 80s even won't remember alignment languages, because it was just not a widely applied idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:09:04 2020 No.6365143 >>6365140 Alignments can change, DnD moral is simplistic sure, but isn't as retardedly manichean as you try to paint it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:09:06 2020 No.6365145 >>6365131 >manipulating an enemy in a specific way is somehow equal to the generic action of doing x I can already tell you have a monkey brain IQ.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:09:46 2020 No.6365147

>>6365139
In the real world, there are no inherent "alignments," only real actions. In D&D, the opposite is true. You can't have both. If you want even a modicum of realism, you can't afford to have an alighnment system at all, because it's pants-shittingly retarded if you view it from the real-world standpoint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:10:47 2020 No.6365151 >>6365134 Has it ever occurred to you that you can multi-unit control and explore faster? Nobody cares if you're dumb, don't force your stupidity onto others.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:11:15 2020 No.6365154

>>6365143
At first it was exhilaratingly "retardedly manichean". Absolutely a delight.
Then it was neutered, which came from a lack of comprehension and appreciation. Now it serves no purpose and makes no sense, because it's neither gonzo fantasy nor believably human. Just a piece of simplistic and meaningless nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:11:20 2020 No.6365157 >>6365140 Alignments work as a rough rule of thumb if you strip away shit like Paladin aspergers and alignment languages, it starts becoming really fucking stupid when you apply those concepts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:12:12 2020 No.6365158 >>6365145 take your meds schizo, you don't make any sense

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:13:26 2020 No.6365160 >>6365147 >because it's pants-shittingly retarded if you view it from the real-world standpoint Only if you treat it as a law of physics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:13:35 2020 No.6365162 >>6365154 again no, it never was as simplisitc as you paint it >>6365138 It's no deep philosophy, but paladins aren't supposed to be genocidal maniacs running abortion clinics or

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:14:03 2020 No.6365164

>>6365157
Alighments don't work, period, unless you have magical objective morality system. They are incompatible with real human morality. That's why int he mdoern day you have to awkwardly augment the one class whose abilities are entirely based on morality. That shit is unrealistic. It's amazing when you embrace the unreality and perfectly retarded if you don't.
>>6365151
You didn't answer my question about your brain damage. How severe is it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:14:17 2020 No.6365167 >Wire Coathanger +1, +3 Against Evil

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:14:58 2020 No.6365168 >>6365164 >unless you have magical objective morality system It clearly isn't if alignments can change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:15:06 2020 No.6365169 >>6365160 No, if you DO treat in-game morality as a law of physics, then it's disconnected from reality and very interesting. It's when you try to apply the system to real world morality when it loses all meaning and becomes retarded broken nonsense.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:17:04 2020 No.6365175

>>6365168
What does this have to do with changing alingments? The whole idea is incompatible with real human morality. You can't "change" alignments in the real world because nothing even remotely similar to that is exists or is even possible.
The whole beauty of this system is how impossible yet innately understandable it is. It is magical thinking, childish subliminal logic. Beautiful shit to dabble in from time to time. Realistic morality is also cool. But trying to half-ass it and kinda have it both ways--now THAT is dumb as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:17:06 2020 No.6365176 >>6365169 Why? The Lich is evil because he's done evil and continues to do evil, while the infant has done nothing at all and can't be deemed guilty of anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:17:50 2020 No.6365178 >>6365169 t. pedophile. real world morality will always apply to a certain extent

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:19:33 2020 No.6365184

>>6365176
In the real world, yes.
Do you have imagination? Can you imagine a world where morality is like a physical law? You don't have to if you don't want to, but that's how OD&D was, and that's where the alignment comes from. It's invigorating shit, but it's incompatible with real world morality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:21:23 2020 No.6365191 >>6365184 just say you want your lolis to be an acceptable moral disconnect and that it piques your interest, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:22:27 2020 No.6365193 >>6365191 What the fuck even is on your mind? Are you alright?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:26:47 2020 No.6365204 File: 678 KB, 1280x720, confused idol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6365178 >>6365191 What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:30:54 2020 No.6365216 >>6365204 Your journal was updated. You tried to diddle the underaged dragon-kin, ya filthy bastard. Try to apply that to your fantasy morality system.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:30:58 2020 No.6365217 >>6365204 >>6365193 as shown here >>6365164 it's the 18/00 mental patient He's not alright in the head

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:40:03 2020 No.6365231

>>6365216
The person you're replying to is not me, but as for me, I don't even comprehend how moral objectivism is even related to kiddie-fiddling. In the real world, you fiddle the kid = you go to jail. In OD&D, you're born a kiddie fiddler and paladins can tell and are justified in killing you. Aaaaaaand...?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:44:47 2020 No.6365239 >>6365157 Yeah, they work as a relative guide. I prefered how Eberron handled alignments all together. I found them to be very constricting in table-top too.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:50:54 2020 No.6365257

The sewers in Baldur's Gate make no goddamn sense, they're non-euclidian because depending on what ladder you climb up through at an intersection, you may end up like a mile away from the other exit, even if both ladders are actually just a few feet away from each other, or you go through a tunnel that should be heading far east, and you end up in the far west, relatively.
I figure they maybe didn't want to make too many turd canals to wade through and bore the player, or have them get lost, but the complete nonsense way that exits connect to each other means it's ridiculously easy to get lost anyway.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:53:13 2020 No.6365265

>>6365239
My point is, alignments are absolutely idiotic specifically when half-assed like that. You can either do relative human morality (which is 100% incompatible with any alignment nonsense) OR enjoy the electrifyingly fantastical and imagination-sparking magical objective morality, but trying to bridge the two is simply pointless. Why the fuck would you even do that? Alignments are retarded and wrong int he real world; the real world is boring and dull in the speculative world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:53:31 2020 No.6365269 >>6365231 Did you just conflate law with morality? I am appalled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:54:43 2020 No.6365272 >>6365257 .t Athkatlan Shadow Thief that can't handle a real city.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:54:44 2020 No.6365273 >>6365269 Law is inseparable from morality. What the fuck are you talking about? Explain. Or are you some underage anarchist freakazoid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:55:10 2020 No.6365274 File: 2.24 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr100.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That's ok, I didn't need my hearing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 12:56:29 2020 No.6365280 >>6365273 >Law is inseparable from morality That's not even remotely true, not all laws are just.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:00:01 2020 No.6365286

>>6365280
Law always has two dimensions: serving public good (just so that the criminals would stop killing and robbing you) is one, and broadcasting and enforcing the current moral standards is another. Some laws only exist to enforce a moral standard and don't even punish anyone.
If you don't agree with a law, that because morality is relative, not because the law was inherently immoral in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:04:02 2020 No.6365293 >>6365286 That's fucking wrong, there are laws which exist solely for the purposes of exploitation, nevermind that law has frequently been drafted without even votes from representatives of the people who are subject to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:07:07 2020 No.6365301 >>6365293 Shut the fuck up, son. Grown ups are talking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:08:12 2020 No.6365304 >>6365286 >If you don't agree with a law, that because morality is relative, not because the law was inherently immoral in the first place. That's correct, that's why law and morality cannot be conflated as you just did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:10:36 2020 No.6365310 >>6365301 Where?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:14:26 2020 No.6365325 >>6365286 >>6365304 You people are lunatics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:22:19 2020 No.6365349 >>6365304 Laws are morality manifested. You seem to assign extended meaning to the word "morality", i.e. "morally just". "Moral" in my posts above means "in connection with some or other moral system", not "objectively just".

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:29:12 2020 No.6365372 >>6365349 >Laws are morality manifested Yeah, a big pharma company would never push for legislation which would make it difficult for people to make small start-up to compete with them, there's pure morality behind such laws.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:42:28 2020 No.6365406 >>6365372 "Big pharma" is not a thing, son. Quit with conspiracy bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 13:55:46 2020 No.6365442 has /pol/ been closed or what is going on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 14:21:25 2020 No.6365520 File: 370 KB, 600x602, 1445054970589.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6365406

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 15:53:58 2020 No.6365741 >>6365024 >it's -10 if you're at 19-20 rep. How do you have evil party members then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 16:01:51 2020 No.6365765 >>6365257 BG maps are just abstract representations of a much bigger reality. That's why in game time runs 12 times faster than real time, and why buildings are bigger on the inside.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 16:02:19 2020 No.6365767 >>6365741 Mc can be evil with good party members.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 17:19:27 2020 No.6365926 >>6365442 >MUH POL BOOGEYMANG kill yourself kike

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 17:20:30 2020 No.6365931 >>6365406 gas yourself, jewish kike.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 19:10:24 2020 No.6366125 File: 543 KB, 1920x1080, Baldr029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >muh laws >muh morals

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 19:26:45 2020 No.6366152 >>6366125 Gassed and cloudkilled.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:07:09 2020 No.6366981

>>6364797
Pretty much everyone that sucked and weaseled their way towards positions of influence around "nerdy" stuff seems absolutely enamored with Joss Whedon, or at least his writing style. It's become almost standardized no matter who the author is, where 95% of it is impossibly unfunny attempts at "humor" and dispelling of any sort of sincerity in the story, interrupted only by occasional fedora tips or straight exposition dumps. I'd say that it does smack of hatred of the source material in many cases but even a lot of the old guard took to it like flies to shit, a shame considering it hasn't been that long since there was actually some variation in how they considered and approached things not that long ago.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:07:17 2020 No.6366982 Checked warosu. The 18/00's posts were deleted. Peace at last.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:10:39 2020 No.6366995 >>6366982 >can't roll extra thac0 because of muh imaginary boogeyman Reconsider breathing, freak.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:20:40 2020 No.6367016

>>6365765
I always figured that, but still those sewers make no sense. If you were to overlay the three sewer maps with the nine surface maps of the city, they would not line up, and you'd be drawing lines for the exits all across everywhere.

>>6366995
>reroll until getting 96pts
>put in the stats I want
>go into Keeper and turn whatever Strength roll I got into 18/00
Nothin' personnel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:23:11 2020 No.6367025 >>6367016 Turn everything to 25 with a memory editor in my last BGEE play.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:29:41 2020 No.6367037

>>6366981
It's true, and weird. Y'know, I loved Buffy, but it really wasn't as good after the halfway point, and I really wouldn't want everything to be written like that.

I think there's a lack of sincerity these days, people are terrified of being honest and genuine. You see it all over the internet, all over here on 4chan even.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:30:51 2020 No.6367038

>>6367025
I can understand editing a believable higher value, but cheating yourself into superhuman strength-tier territory that invalidates any stat enhancements from items? That's fucking retarded.

Also
>realizing dimension door actually had a purpose in BG1 because you could teleport self encumbered with a shitton of ankheg shells, but then it became pointless in the other games

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 02:33:48 2020 No.6367192 >>6367037 It's the current zeitgeist. Going against the flow can get you in serious problems because you may do it online and the screenshots will condemn you. I'm not talking about being a moron with zero social tact, but even more reasonable stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:03:17 2020 No.6367368 >>6366125 good. now go to government district and gas the whole concil and those retarded mage faggots. actually wanna know if doing such a terror run would be feasible if you only kill non-essential npcs or if the game bars you from everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:28:21 2020 No.6367409 >>6366125 >>6367368 didn't want to pay money for casting arcane spells in the city repeatedly killed all spawned cowled wizards using aoe spells while they couldn't see me because out of their sight free arcane spellcasting in the city

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:36:28 2020 No.6367418 >>6367368 It is feasible if you're willing to put up with repeatedly spawning cowled wizard kill squads. If you attempt to terrorize shadow thieves, arkanis gath will spawn to instakill you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:38:27 2020 No.6367421 >>6367418 >arkanis gath damn arkanis tried to kill him and failed tried to run from also failed later i found that's he's unkillable normally

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:42:11 2020 No.6367428

>>6367421
He is vulnerable to brain drain, which is the only effect that bypasses the invulnerability flag that he has, much like Bodhi or other NPCs before the game allows you to kill them off.

But to brain drain him, you would have to protect yourself from finger of death effect at no save on his sword with 15 range.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:44:41 2020 No.6367430 >>6367428 Also, correction: level drain should work as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 04:58:23 2020 No.6367441 >>6367428 like i said, unkillable normally

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 05:03:59 2020 No.6367447 >>6367441 There's nothing abnormal about legitimate mechanics the game puts at your disposal. In fact, his invulnerability isn't even any special piece of coding, but merely just an effect one of his invisible, undroppable rings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 05:09:29 2020 No.6367457 disappointed by the lack of gorvilles in these games tbqh

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 05:23:02 2020 No.6367465 >>6367447 i mean you can't kill him by hitting him with weapons or spells.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 05:30:21 2020 No.6367470

>>6367465
Level drain is a spell that you can "hit" interactibles with. Illithid feelers also count as a weapon. Can a golem that is immune to normal weapons also not be "killed normally"? There's a degree of confusion if you make erroneous statements like that.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 06:34:17 2020 No.6367583

>>6367368
>>6367409
These are either Tactics reputation traps (one of the only good components in this mod) or improved Athkatla city guard, not entirely sure which ones makes these groups spawn.
All the fun of big fights in the streets of Athkatla without having to break side quests. You just need to be below 3 rep and groups of guards mixed with cowled wizards will appear at strategic points, and shadow thieves groups will appear in the docks instead. This particular one was unexpected, I got below 3 rep searching for Valygar and butchering a similar group in his house (with the tactics illusionist/thief in the docks upstairs, incredibly fun fight) and got ambushed in waukeens promenade afterwards. It's pretty fun. I also had a really good time playing chapter 7 of BG1 at 1 rep on that same run.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 08:36:29 2020 No.6367757 File: 547 KB, 1949x2081, 1580823662817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6366982 the /vr/ mod is a terrorist

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 08:49:50 2020 No.6367776 >>6367757 Guess RapeApe can't call himself that with the company he now keeps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 09:21:55 2020 No.6367836 What's better, Cloak Of Balduran or Cloak Of Displacement?

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 09:31:46 2020 No.6367849
File: 105 KB, 245x282, helm of balduran.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Looks better on a dwarf than on a regular human, but not by a lot. The Gift Of Peace looks better on account of actually protecting the sides of the head, rather than just awkwardly sitting on top of it.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 09:55:28 2020 No.6367881
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>>6367836
Cloak of Balduran, how is that even a question
Can be worn with the helm and ring of protection +2 for total +4 save vs. spell and great total AC bonuses, to say nothing of the 25 MR
Saves vs death, breath and wand are pretty much useless in BG1, and although the +4 AC bonus vs missile is alright, there are two other items that give +3 and 5 and won't compete with the cloak of balduran for a slot
>>6367849
Just edit it with Nearinfinity, pic related, takes literally 30 seconds

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 11:31:00 2020 No.6368135 File: 1.86 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr103.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] isn't this asshole supposed to drop a nice ring

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 12:35:15 2020 No.6368321 >>6368135 Nope, this shit always gave no loot and almost no xp.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:19:00 2020 No.6368618

>>6368135
You know, it genuinely fucking hurts me when you post caps of game that looks like it was raped by beamdog (which it was). Spoiler your shit or better yet, stop using this fucking version with this abhorrent font and pixely dogshit blown up graphics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:24:07 2020 No.6368631 >>6368618 not him but ok sperg don't forget you can hide posts that trigger you instead of being a little bitch

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:27:21 2020 No.6368640 >>6368631 You still should spoiler spoilers, you piece of shit. The fact that you post caps of a raped game doesn't help.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:32:48 2020 No.6368648 >>6368640 Are you seriously suggesting that every single screenshot should be spoilered Do you have brain damage

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:33:49 2020 No.6368651 File: 1.01 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr106.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6368618 >>6368640 I just don't really care, man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:33:50 2020 No.6368652 >>6368640 Also if you're worried about spoilers from a game, maybe don't hang out in threads talking about this game Retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:37:11 2020 No.6368660 Beamdog cancer truly ruined this game. Children who can't even set up a system to play classics on shouldn't bother, old games aren't for you.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:39:09 2020 No.6368668

>>6368660
You don't need to set up shit to play to GoG versions, retard
Retarded pseudo elitists who don't have anything to say about the game are worse than children and should really shut the fuck up and fuck off back to wherever ese on this board to circlejerk about original hardware or whatever old farts circlejerk about these days

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:40:28 2020 No.6368671
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>>6368660
I played Baldur's Gate back when it was new, and I still have my old BG2 collector box lying around somewhere too.
Stop moaning like a bitch, I patched out the shitty NPCs and turned off the filters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:43:42 2020 No.6368679 >>6368671 Nice browser game you have there. The fact that you paid money to Beamdogshit for this atrocity speaks volumes about you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:44:29 2020 No.6368681 >>6368679 Oh look, it's the 18/00 ankheg retard, off his meds and foaming at the mouth again great

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:46:50 2020 No.6368690 >>6368681 The fuck is a "18/00 Ankheg"? Get help, schizo.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:48:45 2020 No.6368694

>>6368690
lmao nice try
If you don't know what I'm referencing, you are a literal nefag who should still be lurking so I don't know what you hoped to accomplish with this denial
But of course you're him, your mental illness and unprovoked aggressivity are pretty easy to spot you know

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:50:24 2020 No.6368701 >>6368694 Here's your reply. Be sure to write an essay to this, and then talk about unprovoked aggressivity

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:52:06 2020 No.6368705 >>6368701 No I'm quite content with you having a silent metdown for once

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:52:39 2020 No.6368709

>>6368618
>>6368640
>>6368660
>muh super secret club
Fuck off, gatekeeper. I've been playing BG since the 90's, and there's nothing wrong with the EE's if you ignore the Mary Sue characters and shit writing they added. I get having nostalgia for the old UI, but unless someone has played the OG, vanilla release, they're not going to give a shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:53:39 2020 No.6368712 >>6368709 It looks like shit. You're deluded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:54:03 2020 No.6368713 >>6368709 He literally started playing it like 3 days ago It would be absolutely hilarious if he wasn't such an obnoxious cunt, he's prety much the textbook definition of the underage mentaly ill /vr/ poseur

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 14:57:26 2020 No.6368720 File: 488 KB, 637x936, 1582852595027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6368712 The loot bar is a straight up improvement over the original UI. Fight me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:02:28 2020 No.6368730 >>6368720 You could at least lower the resolution to 720p, so the game doesn't look blown up to a ridiculous degree. But even then the font on the portraits and everything else pretty much looks like a poorly done mspaint composition. Disgusting.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:03:14 2020 No.6368731
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>>6368709
At first I actually was kind of miffed that it didn't have the old big blocky gray rock interface from the original, but it's not a dealbreaker for me. I have beat the original game in original form before, so it's not like I'm deprived of having experienced that.
There's definitely some things I don't like about EE overall, but it is what it is.

>>6368713
Who? Me? This is my second run now, I beat TOB like a week back or so, for the first time admittedly, but otherwise me and BG goes back decades. I remember the computer I had back when I first played it (at like maybe 6 or 7) actually wasn't powerful enough to really play the game, it had lots of slowdown, particularly in battle, and I tried to compensate for that by just pausing a lot, but it was kind of an uphill battle.
My mom could probably hear me slapping the spacebar repeatedly across the apartment when playing, lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:04:25 2020 No.6368736 >>6368731 >Who? Me? No, not you, the pseudo gatekeeper who judging from his writing style is the same retard who has been plaguing these threads since he started playing 3-4 days ago

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:05:28 2020 No.6368739 >>6368730 https://www.spectrumnews.org/wiki/theory-of-mind/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:08:48 2020 No.6368751 >>6368739 You truly deserve this fucking game re-released on fucking VR and then the cortical insertion probe video game system in 2070. God, this place went to shit, at least RPGCodex is still around.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:09:16 2020 No.6368753

>>6368720
I actually disregarded the lootbar at first, thinking I didn't need any newfangled crap like that, but honestly it's really convenient and time saving when picking through the remains of a pile of dead gnolls, bandits, or other low level trash.

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:10:09 2020 No.6368757

>>6368731
Lol, I can remember trying to play on an old windows 95 PC, can't even remember the specs, and it was fucking frustrating. I also didn't really understand the rules at the time, so I barely made it through the Nashkel mines my first character.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:10:20 2020 No.6368758 File: 43 KB, 193x264, 1470139226453.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6368751 >at least RPGCodex Oooooooh, so that's what's wrong with you! Go back to your ghetto, and stop pestering us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:12:04 2020 No.6368764 >>6368739 kek

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:12:34 2020 No.6368767

>>6368757
Yeah, pretty much that. When I started playing on a better computer, I actually had to train myself out of pausing all the damn time, because it was still in my muscle memory. I also remember BG2 blowing my mind when it was new, even if I was too stupid of a kid then to actually find my way out of Irenicus' dungeon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:22:53 2020 No.6368789 >>6368751 What is it with RPGCodex harboring the social rejects of the social rejects?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:48:31 2020 No.6368827 How do you disable that fat circle around characters? WHY

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:52:13 2020 No.6368836 >>6368827 options -> gameplay -> feedback ->marker feedback all the way to the left (you can do the same with locator feedback while you're at it) It will still appear on pause, nothing you can do about that

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:53:10 2020 No.6368839 register here please i need money RANDOMPORN.ORG

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:54:00 2020 No.6368841 >>6368827 if you mean the big colored EE circle you can also revert back to the classic one somewhere in the graphics options I believe

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 15:57:34 2020 No.6368854 >>6368836 >>6368841 Still looks like a smoothed piece of shit, but thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 24 16:30:38 2020 No.6368932 >>6368854 my pleasure, cunt

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 01:28:08 2020 No.6369971 File: 122 KB, 360x360, YOUR TIME HAS COME PRIMATES.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/2lEf2wnXSbo

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 03:09:37 2020 No.6370097

>>6369971
Related to this, for those of you who played the originals in a different language, how was it? I remember that the Spanish version had fairly misleading spell descriptions, sometimes even cut due to their length. I overall liked the dubbing. I actually prefer dubbed Minsc, Viconia and Irenicus (feels bit more unstable than original) over English ones. I think that the dubbing made a good job overall getting right the style of voice. I especially liked the speech of the NPCs at the burning of Viconia event. They really gave their best. Shotouts to the gnolls and their great "muere escoria" (die scum).

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 03:49:08 2020 No.6370142

>>6370097
German dub was great as well, several lines are forever burned into my brain. Especially the creature sounds like >>6369971 and others were great.
>Dumdideldei, aus dir mach ich Brei! (Ogre)
BG1 dub used dialects from time to time which was hilarious although I remember some people hating it. The VA was professionally done and they had tons of fun with it.
Translation itself was bad in some places, especially the spell descriptions would often be just wrong so I got the feeling translators weren't familiar with d&d

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 04:04:45 2020 No.6370163

>>6370142
Seems like the Spanish one then, great VA, subpar text translation due to lack of knowledge. Once I can fly back home (thanks Corona), I'll install the original one from the CDs and extract all sounds, as there's barely any in youtube. I also want to recheck some spell descriptions. I'm fairly sure some of them had big mistakes with turns/rounds. I had the AD&D manual back then and I feel that the terms were switched. Turns for the shorter ones (which still stands as a general term in table RPG) and Round for the longer one. Which led to a lot of confusion when buffing up.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 05:07:12 2020 No.6370265

>>6370097
BG2 wasn't dubbed in Russian back in the day (still haven't), but BG1 had a great dub by (techincally pirate) Fargus studio - prologue intro starts at around 3:00 if you want to check. They also did a fantastic job on translating and dubbing Planescape: Torment which still doesn't have an official Russian edition. They were so good, other pirates imitated their disk covers, it peaked in the early 00s when original studio tried to sue another group - that's right, pirates tried to sue pirates, shit didn't fly sadly.
https://youtu.be/aCA8n08ljZw?t=183

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 06:02:24 2020 No.6370363 >>6370265 Sounds good. Quite the effort to dub everything as well.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 09:59:42 2020 No.6370637 >>6370531 a rare drop, one of my favourites too bad it is just a sellable

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 11:26:01 2020 No.6370757 File: 1.10 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr109.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Go stand in the corner, you hothead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 12:42:41 2020 No.6370915 >>6370757 Fix your game not to look like trash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 12:50:26 2020 No.6370926 >>6370915 Only if you admit that you have a problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 12:53:46 2020 No.6370931 File: 576 KB, 1920x1080, triggered.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6370915 Deal with it, sperglord.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:04:35 2020 No.6370956

>>6370097
The Polish version is a cult classic and employs stage and television actors. The localized "you must gather your party before venturing forth" message is a meme.
There is even this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0urSEmRkyCM
although the king of weird soundbite musical remixes in Poland is definitely Gothic.
The dubbing is generally better in 2 than in 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:24:25 2020 No.6370993 >>6370931 Disalb ethose fat circles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:33:25 2020 No.6371023 >>6370993 see >>6368739

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:48:34 2020 No.6371051 >>6371023 I'm not clicking that or even attempting to find out what the contents are. My intuition is telling me it was posted with malicious intent.

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:52:11 2020 No.6371058

>>6371051
"Theory of mind refers to the ability to understand the desires, intentions and beliefs of others, and is a skill that develops between 3 and 5 years of age in typically developing children. This is test revision.

Relevance to autism:
Theory of mind is impaired in people with autism. One of the earliest tests for theory of mind is the false-belief test developed by Simon Baron-Cohen and Uta Frith1. In the classic version of the test, a little girl named Sally puts a ball into a basket and goes out for a walk. While she is away, another little girl named Anne takes the ball out of the basket and puts it into a box. When Sally comes back, she wants to play with the ball. Where, the children are asked, will Sally look for the ball? ‘In the box,’ children with autism answer, unable to imagine that Sally might be operating under a false belief.

In 1985, Baron-Cohen, Frith and Alan Leslie reported that children with autism systematically fail the false-belief test. Children with Down syndrome pass the test, despite having lower intelligence quotients than those with autism2. The researchers concluded that autism leads to a delay in the development of theory of mind, and that people with autism have difficulty understanding the mental states of others."

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 13:56:54 2020 No.6371071 File: 140 KB, 360x360, trying to not laugh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6371051 That reply is so goddamn funny I almost want to say that you're playing along, but I do think that you're actually completely genuine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 14:18:25 2020 No.6371121 >>6371071 As if it's particularly hard to discern that "spectrum" and "mind" in the same string of text means the other guy is calling you autistic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 14:28:05 2020 No.6371142 File: 1.94 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This room kinda makes me think about Quake, what with all the yellowish-green bricks and murky swamp water.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:00:03 2020 No.6371447 I'm still salty because I had a crush on Imoen as a kid and then I read about how in BG2 there would be romance and I got hype but then lol no surprise she's your sister.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:02:55 2020 No.6371456 >>6371447 BOY do I have a mod for you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:03:53 2020 No.6371459 >>6371456 Go on...

Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:05:36 2020 No.6371468

>CHARNAME biography if you play as a Paladin
>Inspired by your foster father's tales of chivalry and honor, from a young age you committed yourself to the pursuit of good and the punishment of evil. Candlekeep is a world of many sacred and unspoken laws, and you have learned to uphold them all unquestionably. Your honesty and integrity have brought you to the attention of some of the keep's Great Readers, but as of yet none of them have had cause to call upon your services. While the citadel sees the passage of the occasional ne'er-do-well, its regimented atmosphere rarely needs to be purged of evil. The peace of your surroundings should be comforting, but instead you find it stifling. You know your true place is traveling the Realms, fighting evil wherever the need arises.

There's something cute about these.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:10:45 2020 No.6371484 File: 21 KB, 600x560, 715.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6371447 Mou ii Aa shite kou shite ittetatte Aishite dou shite? iwaretatte

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:12:31 2020 No.6371491 File: 147 KB, 1024x768, 1404581409864.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] obligatory

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:13:41 2020 No.6371493 >>6371484 I'll just look it up mysel-- >>6371491 This is not what I was looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:16:57 2020 No.6371502 >>6371493 Don't worry, Anon, if you rape her in that scene, she turns into the Slayer and kills you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:24:26 2020 No.6371523 >>6371502 >tags: incest, monster girl, rape, guro nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:36:11 2020 No.6371546 >>6371491 DUDE! You're gonna just do that in front of the moose?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 17:39:01 2020 No.6371554 >>6371546 Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 25 18:32:17 2020 No.6371632 >>6371546 >caring about the moose >caring about what other creatures think or do my dear sir, this is the sword coast. get it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 01:03:18 2020 No.6372280 >>6371459 You having a giggle there, cutter? Everyone and their dog knows about the Imoen romance mod. Gods know that BG2 isn't worth playing if you can't fuck your sister.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 02:51:48 2020 No.6372445 The fight against the five with ascension+scs is filtering me hard, I can barely get through the first round without my party getting wrecked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 02:53:02 2020 No.6372451 >>6356698 Sicking her on Eldoth was hilarious. They're both so wonderfully loathsome.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 05:28:55 2020 No.6372631

>>6372445
Yeah it's a really tough customer especially on insane
Of course get all the defensive and offensive buffs you can think of, protection from every elements, magic energy, chaotic commands, death ward, emotion hope, courage, recitation, protection from evil, remove fear etc.
Spell immunity conjuration will make you immune to Bodhi's cloud of bats or something if you dont have a fire shield, the staff of fire you get in the Planar sphere can give a fire shield to anyone.
Arcane casters should be constantly under protection from magical weapons to avoid getting dispelled by the solars
Use the Bhaal powers you get during the previous phase
Don't use time stop unless you play solo or your party is dead
Use the good ol' project image + wish to spam it until you get a Rest wish before the final phase, and rebuff
You can also prepare some traps and summons, a planetar of course and it can be a good time to use Gate or something similar, just to have some good meatshields
Casting wish and hoping for a full Breach wish can work. Otherwise, have your designated dispeller under constant improved alacrity, he'll need it. It's obviously better if you have more than one.
Massive aoe like incendiary clouds can be a good idea but you'll have to be careful with all the solars trying to dispel you.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 05:41:24 2020 No.6372651

>>6372445
>>6372631
Of course use spell immunity abjuration too.
Invisibility, even Mislead, won't be that useful since I'm pretty sure half the enemies see through it, and can be downright dangerous.
If you have some useful consumables lying around get them ready, some potions like magic shielding or invulnerability can be useful especially for dispelled party members

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 07:01:10 2020 No.6372739

>>6372651

> half the enemies see through it

But can the computer target invisible creatures with spells?
Seeing and hitting with weapons is one thing, but spell slinging is different.
It's what makes the Spell Immunity:Abjuration + Spell Immunity: Divination + Improved Invisibility combo Irenicus has going on such a cunty thing to do.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 07:20:37 2020 No.6372785

>>6372739
No they can't, but they can and will target you with secret words and co which go through SI:D and invisibility anyway
And most of the shit you'll have to watch for are AoE, there is no single target spell beyond secret words and co that will be a problem at this point.
And the solars will still attack you through mislead and si:d because they see through invisibility like Planetars do.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 07:25:58 2020 No.6372797

>>6372739
I mean the point is that you cant abuse mislead in this fight anyway, because even if you cast it in your pocket plane before the fight, there is just no way it will last until the moment you finally get to fight the 5. And if you cast it on this map the clone will disappear at the first true sight and you will be targettable even with si:d. Not that it matters anyway because again, all solars see through invisibility, Abazigal does too, and he's probably not the only one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 11:27:11 2020 No.6373198 >>6372280 Just fuck her, or can I make her feel special and cared about and be there for her?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 12:09:23 2020 No.6373284 File: 1.13 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh baby I have missed you. I'm carrying you all the way to Tethyr!

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 12:56:06 2020 No.6373394

decided to try to play through IWD2 recently while on covid lockdown

have actually had quite a lot of fun with it so far (i think ive completed it before but only after cheesing my way through some of the encounters)

party is

>Cleric (Battle Priest of Tempus, that 1x a day +6 strength ability is great)
>Druid
>Half Orc Barbarian + 20 strength + two handed weapons
>Wizard
>Sorcerer, focus on spells that only affect single targets but scale decently like chromatic orb
>Rogue

Nothing wild. Feel like ive messed up the stat allocations a little bit but desu just going to max out the typical class essential attributes (int on the wizard, str on the barbarian, dex on the rogue etc) and having at least a 10 constitution on everyone has been enough to get through encounters pretty comfortably. Would be 100% fucked on hard mode i think.

Have only realised just how damn handy some of the spells are, idk if ive just been conditioned into thinking that most of the enemies will be able to resist a lot of what i throw at them but

>Blindness

50% miss chance is amazing if it lands, and should be useful for most of the game, pretty much a first pick for my sorcerer

>Ray of Enfeeblement

-15 strength is incredible and it actually works fairly well against some of the harder hitting enemies, inflicting a -5 to attack AND damage rolls is brilliant and the right spell focus makes it pretty hard for most enemies to save on

>Web + Entangle combo

desu just using Web and Entangle then picking enemies off with ranged weapons feels a bit cheesy but there's something about it that feels really satisfying to do

>focusing on putting a ridiculous amount of cleric, wizard and druid buffs on the barbarian alone - haste, protection from evil, bless, protection from arrows, bulls strength, cats grace, barkskin, certain available potions

can pretty much chop through the entire world with that sweet 20 strength as it is, the buffs are hilarious

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 13:00:29 2020 No.6373412 >>6373394 again hit the character limit. im hoping i can get through the Ice Temple, thats always been the bit that i get to and then lose the will to play the game anymore as its a complete fucking slog to get through

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 13:37:26 2020 No.6373508

>>6373394
>>6373412
The one aspect of IWD2 (actually much more than that) I didn't understand is why suddenly maxing charisma became a thing for Sorcerers according to the guide. Also, 3e feats are way confusing for the first time, but the amount of buffs available is hilariously fun. And especially that they don't expire before a good chunk of time passes.

Also, good luck, the Ice Temple and everything past it is a huge feat to patiently push through. Glad they managed to put in the Underdark throwback as well.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 13:59:10 2020 No.6373560

>>6373508

yeah, the feats have been a little bit tricky to choose from, have generally stuck to bolstering saving throws + large martial weapons on the barbarian and spell focus on the casters (transmutation in particular for the druid since it seems like a natural fit, pun not really intended but left in anyway, evocation for the wizard/sorcerer, necromancy on the cleric), weapon finesse was a blatantly obvious choice for the rogue too

thanks too. i cant even really remember the underdark part too well but iirc driders were a pain to deal with and there were bits where there were Duergar dug-in that were quite hard to break down, think they repeatedly fucked me up with crossbows hard until i figured out some way to get past them

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 14:18:43 2020 No.6373613 >>6373560 >necromancy Okay that got a little excessive when I got to walk around with a 6 man party and a bunch of greater boneguards hasted. I guess the game was made to be played on HoF.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:09:06 2020 No.6373719 What's some of your favorite weapons in the games?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:23:59 2020 No.6373753 >>6373719 Three White Doves Not only is it pretty handy in IWD, the actual item description sounds incredibly nice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:33:17 2020 No.6373775 >>6373719 Namarra, especially for rogues. With 1d8+4 base damage even a backstab from a shitty pure-class thief is gonna hurt. The 1/day silence 15' is icing on the cake

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:39:39 2020 No.6373792 >>6373508 >charisma There's an explanation for it in the manual. Can't really remember now, but I think Charisma also became "inner strength" and that's the source of power for sorcerers.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:49:48 2020 No.6373823

>>6373719
Blackrazor
Criminally underrated weapon because the alternative seems so nice on surface, but it's an amazing weapon with incredibly useful on-hit effects that not only hold their own really well, but can also be used for a few hits then switched with other weapons which will greatly benefit from this easy way to reach 25 STR without having to build or wield Crom Faeyr. The potential haste can also save your ass when you get dispelled, and the level drain I think doesnt need any further explanation. It also look really fucking cool if you restore flaming sword effects with 1ppv4 or something else.
My other favourite underrated weapon is the Answerer, which guess what, works really well switched with Blackrazor. The 15%MR reduction on hit is great, but even better is the -2AC malus it inflicts on hit, allowing you to reach very high hit rate on high AC enemies with classes who have relatively low thac0, like mage/thieves or fighter dual classed relatively early.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:55:41 2020 No.6373842 >>6373823 Can't you level drain targets so hard that their items disintegrate? That seems like a huge turnoff for me.

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 15:58:22 2020 No.6373854

>>6373842
Yeah you can
I mean its not exactly a big deal by this point, most creatures who will drop good items are bosses that are often immune to it, and quest items can't be disintegrated even if the rest of said creator's inventory is.
I used it a lot in several ToB playthroughs and never had an important item disintegrated because of it, just vendor trash

Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:00:45 2020 No.6373859

>>6373842
The other thing is that you won't level drain to death anything other than trash mobs, 15% chance of draining 4 level, anything that has anything interesting in their inventory will die of pure damage before running out of levels to drain in ToB.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:01:57 2020 No.6373865 Heya

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:05:39 2020 No.6373873 So, killed any Ankhegs yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:08:50 2020 No.6373887 >>6373873 Several dozens. Made good bank and XP on that, I did. Don't need any special tactics, just be strong enough and rush the fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:12:13 2020 No.6373902 >>6373887 What about now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:16:18 2020 No.6373910 >>6373887 What time is it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 26 16:17:20 2020 No.6373914 Heya

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 01:09:56 2020 No.6375008 >>6373914 Go away Noober.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:27:17 2020 No.6375289 >>6373914 throw stone at him

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:29:49 2020 No.6375291

Bioware really messed up with the Thief balance. In BG1, there are too many of them, but BG2 has:
* Yoshimo - lost mid-way.
* Nalia - Dual, not enough points to do anything
* Imoen - Comes late, has enough for traps and locks, but that's about it. Powerful character in any case.
* Jan Jansen - Great character, almost an auto-pick if it wasn't that he's very polarizing. I personally love him, but I would understand if someone would hate him.

Seems like the companion balance suffered from the decision of keeping Imoen alive. It doesn't make much sense to have two characters (Imoen and Nalia) which are basically the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:34:38 2020 No.6375295 Neeber > Noober

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:36:27 2020 No.6375297 >>6375291 any mage has the knock spell though. so that's helpful but I always thought the same about there not being enough thieves. maybe you can mod one in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:52:46 2020 No.6375323 >>6375291 That's why EE introduced Hexxat. Well, at least the intention was to give you more thief options. Suffice to say, they failed spectacularly with that character.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 04:56:55 2020 No.6375326 >>6375323 Yeah, she's way too polarizing as well, both game-play wise (being a vampire) and personality-wise. For my next run, I'll try the "Improved Viconia" mod and make her a Cleric/Thief.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:00:33 2020 No.6375329 >>6375323 Nobody needed a pure class thief in BG2 anyway, beamdog really can't do anything right with this shitty character >>6375326 Just use Shadowkeeper/EEkeeper or the SCS NPC customisation component, both take 30 seconds and give more options

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:13:44 2020 No.6375345 >>6375329 I really hope Skitia finishes this NPC pack eventually, because those seem pretty fun - both gameplay-wise and story-wise, and they fill niches other companions don't. You even get elven mage/thief.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:14:07 2020 No.6375346 If I used Keeper to multiclass Haer-Dalis with Thief, would that actually work at all?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:32:33 2020 No.6375375 >>6375346 Why would you want to multiclass blade with thief This is retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:37:23 2020 No.6375383 >>6375291 >Nalia - Dual, not enough points to do anything With the low caps on the essential thieving skills as well as item boosts I have no problems using Nalia as the only thief the whole way through.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:54:08 2020 No.6375405 >>6375345 I dunno, I've never seen a good mod NPC for BG or BG2, the vanilla companions are just too good, every attempt feels out of place. What niche does elven mage/thief fill when Jan Jansen exists

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 05:59:21 2020 No.6375418

>>6375405
There is no good mage/thief multiclass in BG1, unless I am getting senile and forgot about someone. Unless it's Quale, but seriously, fuck Quale.
I'm actually trying to be open minded about NPC mods - for every 10 shit ones there is one or two really decent ones, but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 06:00:30 2020 No.6375423 >>6375375 Mostly for picking locks and disarming traps, which I don't think bards and bard kits can do? But that's why I asked.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 06:05:04 2020 No.6375436

>>6375423
Ok, so why would you multi class bard, which has already slow spell progression and one of the great strength it has is having thief XP table and going through level very fast for great level scaling spells, with thief just for opening locks
Turn him into a mage/thief or a fighter/mage/thief, bard/thief makes absolutely no sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 06:07:44 2020 No.6375443 >>6375423 Actually, for maximum fun and stupid overpowered late game, turn HD into a fighter/thief Seeing his basic resistances, this class will really shine on him

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 09:35:25 2020 No.6375753 >>6375443 Blades outclass F/Ts pretty hard, especially late game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 09:49:33 2020 No.6375774 Carsomyr or Purifier+Belm?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 09:54:21 2020 No.6375781 >>6375774 Belm+Belm

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:19:17 2020 No.6375820 >>6375753 Tell that to Haer Dalis and his base 15%physical resistance... Make him into a fighter/thief and he will reach 100 with Jan's armor, defender of easthaven and hardiness

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:20:45 2020 No.6375825 >>6375753 Also if you make an illegal multi class with your blade it really won't outclass anything at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:23:59 2020 No.6375835 >>6375774 Purifier is better as an offhand, Foebane + purifier vs Carsomyr is an actual debate, purifier + belm not really

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:24:16 2020 No.6375836

Would it be worthwhile to change Imoen into another class combo in that case? She was like passable as a supporting mage as she got really high level, but Aerie outclasses her pretty thoroughly in casting (also being a Cleric).

Fighter/Thief, to make her a bit of a better archer in general?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:26:29 2020 No.6375838 File: 1.85 MB, 1920x1080, Baldr125.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That was a lot easier the second time around. Can I exploit Helmet Of Opposite Alignment for anything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 10:50:27 2020 No.6375876 >>6375820 Blur+mirror image+stoneskin+improved invis.+PfMW+spell protections vs. magic >>6375825 Why would you want to multi as a bard in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 11:29:19 2020 No.6375945 >>6375835 >Foebane + purifier It never occurred to me that you can dual-wield bastard swords. The concept is so ridiculously awesome that it wins regardless of minmaxing concerns (which aren't top priority anyway, or I wouldn't roll a paladin).

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 11:39:44 2020 No.6375968

>>6375835
>Foebane + purifier vs Carsomyr is an actual debate, purifier + belm not really
Foebane is a tanking weapon (constant lifesteal on hit is big) that relies on on-hit effects
Purifier is a MR tanking weapon
Carsomyr is a MR tanking weapon with a dispel on-hit
Purifier+Belm is kinda neither here or there
Foebane+Belm maximizes damage and adds tankiness due to more LMD procs
Foebane+DoE is great on paladins because with Armor of Faith on Non-Inquisitors you get up to 85% damage reduction

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 11:40:52 2020 No.6375973

>>6375836
>Aerie outclasses her pretty thoroughly in casting (also being a Cleric).
Imoen will hit level 9 mage spells at 3,000,000 XP (And HLAs). Aerie will hit level 9 mage spells at 6,000,000 XP. That's rather significant. Imoen is just fine, combining the bare minimum Thief package with advancing as a Mage. Nothing that has "Mage" in its class description is bad in this game.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 11:50:40 2020 No.6375987

>>6375968
>Foebane+DoE is great on paladins because with Armor of Faith on Non-Inquisitors you get up to 85% damage reduction
Agreed, but they can reach high MR with the purifier, which is also a much less disputed weapon among your party than the DoE.
You can alternate both depending on the situation, not like high MR is wasted in ToB, far from it, especially if you hoarded potions of magic protection so far. But the main point is that the DoE will be useful to more party members than the Purifier, which is probably the second best defensive offhand in the game after the aforementioned flail while being restricted to paladins or UAI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 11:53:39 2020 No.6375995 >>6375973 >Imoen will hit level 9 mage spells at 3,000,000 XP (And HLAs). Aerie will hit level 9 mage spells at 6,000,000 XP Well the thing, is, when you recruit her, chances are that Aerie will be almost as far from 6 million than Imoen from 3....

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:01:50 2020 No.6376008 >>6375838 not really, sadly Wish there was one in BG2, I'd give it to Koran for him to wreck undead with Azuredge Which I did anyway because it's still only one console command away

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:11:10 2020 No.6376020 >>6375995 How'd you get 4.200.000 XP on Aerie before Underdark? That's a lot of Ankheg to go through.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:13:48 2020 No.6376024 >>6376020 You could do the dragon farming. Petrify, then unpetrify.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:14:26 2020 No.6376026

>>6376020
Run a party of 4 or 5, do all the content in chapter 2-3 and recruit at 1,2 mil and there you go, you will be around 3,5 mil at the very least by this point
Though even if you just complete almost everything and recruit at 400k or 750k, you'll already be nearing 3 million XP with the rest of your party when Imoen will still have 1,75 mil to go
So yeah, I abuse a bit, but still.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:27:09 2020 No.6376045

>>6376026
>Run a party of 4 or 5, do all the content in chapter 2-3 and recruit at 1,2 mil and there you go, you will be around 3,5 mil at the very least by this point
I have done all the stronghold quests, plus many side-quests (including the ones from the companions I got on me) and I'm on my way to Spellhold and my companions are hovering 1.3m. There's definitely more here than you say, especially considering how an important % of the XP is individual from quests.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:28:36 2020 No.6376047

>>6376045
>I have done all the stronghold quests, plus many side-quests (including the ones from the companions I got on me) and I'm on my way to Spellhold and my companions are hovering 1.3m.
No there sin't, recruit party at 1,2 million XP and let them scribe scrolls, you're already above what you sail to spelhod with.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:48:39 2020 No.6376083

>>6376045
aso the sidequests from companions won't get you much XP, the big XP quests are the main chapter 2-3 dungeons, the big side quests (slavers and slums sewers, de'arnise keep, trademeet, unseeing eye, planar sphere, planar prison, windspear hills, umar hillls)
who all also bring a very sizeable chunk of combat XP

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:51:21 2020 No.6376089 >>6371491 Is that Imoen romance mod? Because I didn't remember it happened when I played it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 12:52:18 2020 No.6376091 >>6376089 no no it's totally in the vanilla game, you can rape Imoen in BG2, bravo Bioware duh

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 13:00:32 2020 No.6376112 >>6376091 I just googled it, and it's indeed the romance mod. She'll turn into a Slayer and killed you like >>6371502 said

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 14:20:51 2020 No.6376340 >>6375838 >Can I exploit Helmet Of Opposite Alignment for anything? If you want a non-good/non-evil all-manlet party for Role Playing Reasons you can give it to Yeslick/Tiax and there you go.

Anonymous Mon Apr 27 14:28:02 2020 No.6376358

>>6376340
I'm good with Yeslick as he is, and besides not being able to stand Tiax, he stopped talking to me. I just sold it to Talanthyr, like I do with all the cursed items I find, feels appropriate for RP reasons.
I thought about maybe putting it on Viconia, but that would feel weird given the sequel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 27 23:55:57 2020 No.6377496 File: 1.69 MB, 1920x1080, Candlekeep At Night.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Candlekeep is gorgeous at night.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 03:29:09 2020 No.6377875 >>6377496 While all the forests look a bit too similar, BG1 is visually quite good. During my last re-run I became fonder of BG1 overall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 05:10:05 2020 No.6377994 For you guys playing in SCS hardcore/insane, do you set core difficulty to core/insane as well (for extra damage by enemies) or just use the SCS settings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 05:23:44 2020 No.6378014 >>6377496 >there is no roof to this world it's okay, Viconia. Not everything needs to cater towards your degenerate people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 05:27:41 2020 No.6378024 >>6377994 I don't like how double damage limits party build variety. Frontline gets hit hard enough on core rules. Backline still sometimes gets oneshot if caught with defences down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 06:00:31 2020 No.6378061 >>6378024 What about hardcore though, as it's 50% extra damage, not so steep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:07:34 2020 No.6378204 >>6378061 Thing is, if you play with SCS 32, the difficulty slider should be completely replaced, so if you set it to insane you cant get hardcore damage, only insane damage or normal damage

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:18:22 2020 No.6378224

>>6378204
In the release of v30 (I think), it's explained how to use both and Davaeorn always talks about Insane difficulty (SCS) and the double damage.That's why I was wondering that if I start a new run in Hardcore, if maybe I should also increase the overall damage of enemies.

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:25:47 2020 No.6378232

Insane damage in my experience isnt THAT limiting for party building once you find answers for the extra challenge it adds.
Obviously kinda forces to have an arcane frontline, but at the same time its not like it makes non arcane classes useless at all, just forces you to use them more carefully and recognize quickly when they can get permakilled or can't hold their place in front and move them out of the way or redeploy the entire party
But pure fighters and assorted classes will still be able to deal a lot of damage and be really useful
After all most of SoA doesnt have THAT many enemies who hit like trucks in melee, and it makes them a lot more interesting to fight.
As for BG1, it doesnt make that much of a difference honestly. Forces you to be extra careful and pretty much ensures that you will lose at least one party member to a backstab during your playthrough, but as long as it's not you, you're good (potions of invisibility will always be great)
Makes lightning bolts extremely dangerous and potions of absorption incredibly valuable both for lightning bolts and the handful of enemies who can wreck you with overwhelming crushing damage.
Personally what I really like about double damage is that it makes permakilled party members more common and forces you to reconsider your party composition during your playthrough.
At the end of the day, if you enjoy that aspect, go with insane damage, if you'd rather be somewhat sure to finish the game with the same party, go with normal damage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:27:05 2020 No.6378234 >>6378224 Get SCS 32, really. Why would you bother with v30 when so much good work went into 32.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:34:08 2020 No.6378236 >>6378232 I like to finish the game with the party I had in mind, so I'll stick to normal damage and just use SCS sliders. >>6378234 I checked now, I got v32.7, so all good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 08:49:57 2020 No.6378246 >>6378236 ok stick to normal and let us real men tackle the insane difficulty you sissy effeminate faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:23:46 2020 No.6378286 >>6378246 "Yes, oh omnipresent authority figure?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:27:28 2020 No.6378290 >>6378246 Will do, friend. Safe journeys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:42:04 2020 No.6378309 >>6378246 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:47:06 2020 No.6378317 >>6378290 fuck you bitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:48:38 2020 No.6378319 >>6378246 I'm indifferent to this statement and conversation. >>6378317 And a good day to you too, sire.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:51:32 2020 No.6378327 >>6378317 >circle beneath turns red

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 09:54:36 2020 No.6378331 >>6378327 NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE wait

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:18:49 2020 No.6378380 >>6378317 “So hard to find decent folk nowadays...”

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:19:40 2020 No.6378385 File: 4 KB, 227x222, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6378246 >real men >playing fantasy waifu simulator with extra sperglord difficulty mod for hardcore neckbeards

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:28:41 2020 No.6378404 >>6378385 can you post this again but without all the reddit buzzwords, normalfaggot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:33:03 2020 No.6378416 >>6378385 I think any real man should challenge themselves with at least one kind of difficult game. >>6378317 Yer' a long-tounged lout, aint-ya'?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:36:41 2020 No.6378429 >>6378385 I don't think anyone making faggoty greentexts with reddit-tier reaction images has anything meaninful to say about masculinity

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:41:55 2020 No.6378442 >>6378416 >Yer' a long-tounged lout, aint-ya'? Who said this? I remember the accent but don't remember who said it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:47:03 2020 No.6378457 >>6378385 Don't denigrate Dick like that, you phoneposting scum. >>6378442 Various commoners.

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:57:17 2020 No.6378476
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>>6378404
>>6378429
>muh reddit
>unironically calling me a normie
You guys get that I've been playing BG for years and enjoy SCS, right? Grow some thicker skin you s'wits
>>6378416
Real men play gold box games

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 10:58:44 2020 No.6378482 >>6378476 >You guys get that I've been playing BG for years and enjoy SCS, right? Grow some thicker skin you s'wits No, but it doesn't matter, you're still a useless, unfunny cocksucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 11:22:46 2020 No.6378535 >>6378476 There's no s'wits here, only an n'wah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 11:27:03 2020 No.6378545 >>6378476 Real men play Wizardry 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:36:48 2020 No.6378776 >>6357238 Another top cheese strat is to lure basilisks with korax the ghoul and then have your party pepper them with arrows. Free 7000xp for each greater basilisk

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:38:50 2020 No.6378778 >>6357786 Bruh just get the Tome of str in bg1

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:40:01 2020 No.6378780 >>6357786 >And I made 14 Wis because I want spells. Huh Paladins and Rangers don't get bonus slots from high Wis, that's for clerics only.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:45:01 2020 No.6378793 >>6364547 Haha tripfags are inadvertantly hilarious

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:47:33 2020 No.6378795 >>6364716 They're fine tho, they reappear in bg2 as a couple of hocky players fighting over a girl

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:48:37 2020 No.6378797 >>6364958 The paladin knew your secret

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:49:16 2020 No.6378803 >>6378795 They sure made a miraculous recovery from me Berserk punching them so hard that they exploded into pieces, like it was goddamn Doom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 13:50:09 2020 No.6378804 >>6378797 That my character is secretly lusting after Drow cleric ass?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 14:52:39 2020 No.6378932 >>6378804 You wouldn't last a minute in Menzoberranzan, wael rivvil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 14:59:21 2020 No.6378948 >>6378932 waela rivvil

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 15:09:12 2020 No.6378965 >>6378932 I think I'll probably have removed all reasonable doubt in Viconia of that by the time I've conquered the Throne Of Bhaal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 16:52:33 2020 No.6379256 File: 49 KB, 761x408, BGII.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does Baldur's Gate II feel like Final Fantasy?

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 16:56:05 2020 No.6379267

>>6379256
I don't know, but on a semi-related note, Chris Avellone personally noted that Final Fantasy 7 was very inspiring in many ways when creating Planescape: Torment, particularly the spell effects.and that each character had a distinct "personal" weapon type that they would default to. I'm guessing a lot of people at the time liked Final Fantasy in general, probably for a good resaon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 17:08:05 2020 No.6379310 >>6379267 > I'm guessing a lot of people at the time liked Final Fantasy in general, probably for a good resaon. Yep, including Warren Spector.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 18:28:55 2020 No.6379509 >>6359156 >not enough stats to dual class from fight into druid need to reroll my dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 18:31:23 2020 No.6379513 >>6379256 >Does Baldur's Gate II feel like Final Fantasy? More so than bg1 I suppose.

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 21:38:19 2020 No.6379974

>>6379267
that's interesting. I didn't know that.
>>6379256
I know that FF12 is basically the most like BG2 because scripts are like gambits and the way combat performs. they should have sticked with it. Then again, most FF games are turn-based with combat extra screen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 28 22:55:02 2020 No.6380162 Is it possible to visit the top floor of Candlekeep without getting arrested?

Anonymous Tue Apr 28 23:49:03 2020 No.6380242

>>6380162
Yeah, rush to it, I think it's speaking to koveras or some other dialogue that triggers the murder, and you can get there once without getting arrested and even speak to Ulraunt (who sadly has nothing interesting to say) and get Gorion's letter from his quarters rather than having it given by Tethoril

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 01:32:40 2020 No.6380425 File: 268 KB, 716x782, addlecollectors-alt-back.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6378476 >Real men play gold box games Now we're talkin'. Shame the closest thing you can get to real D&D in a single player game gets no love.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 01:32:51 2020 No.6380426

>>6379267
>I'm guessing a lot of people at the time liked Final Fantasy in general, probably for a good resaon
VII has aged quite well in my opinion. I replayed it a year ago or so thinking that my nostalgia was going to crash and burn, but I greatly enjoyed it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 03:13:25 2020 No.6380629 What's the best party comp for Icewind Dale? Thinking of giving it another go but got tired of reloading after two party members go down in first round of every combat. I am not very well versed in AD&D (started playing with 3.0).

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 03:16:10 2020 No.6380636 File: 1.27 MB, 640x480, 1.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6379509 Pretty arduous. This whole idea of rolling int for the sake of mitigating mindflayers is quite the meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 03:20:17 2020 No.6380641 >>6380629 I went with 2x F/C and F/M/T. All multiclasses for the sake of convenience. XP is somewhat a non-issue once you get to grind out an ice golem rest encounter or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 07:02:20 2020 No.6380935 >>6380242 If you rush past 'Koveras' can you still go back and talk to him and get the ring?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:12:32 2020 No.6381035 >>6380935 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:20:44 2020 No.6381048 >>6379256 >>6379267 What if BG1 and 2 got a Final Fantasy IV style demake?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:41:26 2020 No.6381068 >>6381048 The last thing I'd want is for these games to play like a soul-less chink console trash with boring ass turn-based combat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:46:06 2020 No.6381072 >>6380629 Paladin (for the Holy Avenger and a few QoL features, plus ease of use) Bard (for the songs and free XP in starting city) Fighter / Mage Halfling Fighter / Thief Fighter / Druid Ranger/Cleric

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:54:00 2020 No.6381079 >>6381072 What's the actual appeal of rangers? Seems to me like a waste of a class because no weapon grandmastery. Racial enemy never seemed interesting to me.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 08:57:54 2020 No.6381083

>>6381079
>What's the actual appeal of rangers?
>only class that can "dual-wield" in vanilla IWD1 (by equipping a single weapon in the right hand the game gives Rangers only a bonus attack, simulating dual-wielding in an engine that didn't support it at the time)
>Ranger/Clerics have druid spells as well as Cleric spells in vanilla BG, BG2, and IWD (as well as EE with a single modification in a baldur.lua variable
>free stealth is sometimes useful
>BG2 gives you access to the Archer kit, which is very, very strong
Multiclass Fighter/Clerics don't get weapon grandmastery anyway, so the only reason you'd not roll a Ranger/Cleric over a multiclass Fighter/Cleric is if you wanted Dwarf saving throws.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 09:14:06 2020 No.6381105 >>6381083 >druid spells What kinda druid spells? Tried to look up the list, but the wiki is horrible and tells you nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 09:22:37 2020 No.6381115 >>6381105 all of them that's why this combo was great EE made it so that ranger/cleric only now gets druid spells up to level 3 or 4 but again this can be changed with changing a variable with the notepad

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 10:34:27 2020 No.6381232

>>6381115
I just tried giving the character some levels to see how it works in action. At 5 mil XP (lv16 ranger) you only progress into level 4 druid spells, which pretty slow, but better than the nothing Fighter gets.

Explain this to me, though. Why the hell are the F/C chars capped to 2.5 attacks wielding the shield, but the C/R has it upped to 3.5 somehow WITH THE SHIELD OFF, whereas the F/C remains at 2.5 not wearing the shield. Am I missing something? I had no idea ranger would get this kind of boost over a fighter for no apparent reason

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 10:40:06 2020 No.6381243 >>6381115 Wait, I guess that's the bonus attack, which I interpreted as thac0 for some reason. So, I suppose they revamped this in the EE into regular dual-wielding?

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 10:46:00 2020 No.6381257

>>6381243
Yes, IWDEE is basically IWD-in-BG2-engine, which means everyone gets dual-wielding.
Kinda trivializes the game by a lot when people can dual-wield weapons of free action, and of course the kits are as broken as ever.
Although I'm okay with the EE, I still vastly prefer the original IWD.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 11:02:33 2020 No.6381280 >>6381257 I would probably agree. The encounters in IWD are rather mundane. Being able to roll your super tanky, dual-wielding F/M probably obliterates the balance even on HoF.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 11:03:47 2020 No.6381286

>>6381257
Sorcerers trivialize it even more, IWD games are notoriously stingy with spell scrolls so I wouldn't recommend running with more than one wizard in the original. EE though? 2 sorcerers who cherry-pick the best spells, buffs in particular (Emotion spells are busted af) make it a breeze.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 11:12:11 2020 No.6381293 >>6381286 EE actually adds bonus spell scrolls, too. I don't think Sorcerer is necessarily stronger than your typical cookie cutter F/M/Cs and shit, but yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 11:26:50 2020 No.6381324 >>6381293 Not sure why you would compare a supporting Sorc to an F/M/C main char? An F/M/C main won't be wasting its turns to cast offensive spells or cleric buffs obviously.

Anonymous Wed Apr 29 11:29:09 2020 No.6381326

>>6381324
I'm saying that if I wanted to completely break IWDEE I wouldn't necessarily include a Sorcerer in the lineup. It's still a rather martial-biased game with its reliance on hordes, very few reasons to use the dispelling library, and tons of equipment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 29 12:41:42 2020 No.6381471 New thread >>6381470

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