/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6339197]

Imagine blowing 100 million dollars on a bad idea, almost single-handedly bankrupting the company you work for and just then getting to just walk away from the mess you created. He should have been sued into the dirt, sent to prison or both.

[Anonymous No.6339231]

>>6339197
Anon, you don't understand how rigid and vertical Japanese business practices are (or at least were, during that time)...

[Anonymous No.6339235]

nah, he was the only reason square was any good to begin with

[Anonymous No.6339238]

>>6339235
This. Square owed him everything for being the glue that kept their shit together. What kind of a fucking brainlet thinks any guy should be sent to prison for making a movie? What kind of warped reality is OP living in?

[Anonymous No.6339239]

Imagine watching a youtube video for your dopamine rush then instantly coming to 4chan to parrot the video for more dopamine rushes

imagine rinsing and repeating this for the rest of your life

xD

[Anonymous No.6339246]

>>6339239
be honest. what else is there to do

[Anonymous No.6339251]

>>6339238
Not OP, but there's no doubt this guy was irresponsible for abusing his position and wasting tons of money on an idea that was doomed from the very start. You have to be a really delusional Square (Enix) fanboy to not to be able to see this.

[Anonymous No.6339253]

>>6339197
Sony had an infinite wallet and they wanted to turn Square into the new Pixar (and the new Nintendo since they tried to be a game design school and tried a lot of different genre during that era). Unfortunately they didn't have the talent for that and Sony had to drop them as a dried up whore to focus on their western studios who actually delivered.

[Anonymous No.6339256]

>>6339239
what video did he watch? I want to know what I'm dealing with

[Anonymous No.6339257]

>>6339197
>being legally liable for millions for doing what your company allowed you to do even if you failed at it

I’m not a lawyer and neither are you, but I hope you understand why that’s a bad idea OP

[Anonymous No.6339303]

>>6339235
>>6339238
Without Kenji Terada and maybe Nasir Gebelli, FF1 would have been another DQ clone.
Also, without Ito and Kitase, FF5 and 6 would have been unplayable mess like 2-3(and I like FF2) or a RPG that nobody who isn't a obsessed Sakaguchi fanboy would care(like FF4).
Sakaguchi was the Inafune of Square.

[Anonymous No.6339305]

>>6339303
would care today, I mean

[Anonymous No.6339307]

>>6339305
nobody cares about FF1, 5 or 6 today either

[Anonymous No.6339329]

>>6339307

Kys

[Anonymous No.6339341]

>>6339239
Says the fag who can't shitpost because he needs his dopamine rush.

[Anonymous No.6339343]

>>6339329
truth hurts

[Anonymous No.6339440]

>>6339197
>makes a mistake
>owns up to it and resigns
>what remains of Square merges with Enix
He made the most honourable choice that wasn't seppeku

[Anonymous No.6339518]

>>6339307
Yeah,FF6 , the FF with the most mainstream villain along with sephiroth , is a game something that nobody cares today, lol.

[Anonymous No.6339535]

>>6339518
Sephiroth is the only mainstrem FF villain because FFVII is the only mainstream FF (not that that's good or bad) which is why it got a fancy new remake, a movie, a sequel and God knows what else
being second best behind Sephiroth is the same as being irrelevant

[Anonymous No.6339564]

>>6339197
>He should have been sued into the dirt, sent to prison or both.
Why? There's nothing illegal about being incompetent or making bad business decisions. If companies never fucked up then newer companies would never be able to grow and take their place. It's evolution.

[Anonymous No.6339656]

>>6339535
FF7-9 and maybe 10 are mainstream. The era everyone played.

[Anonymous No.6339698]

>>6339251
He didn't 'abuse' shit, the fuck are you talking about? Square thought they were untouchable because they were a money-making machine at that point, they had access to all this state-of-the-art tech and wanted to be the next Pixar, as said. If Sakaguchi was really the only guy in the whole company who wanted to break into movies it wouldn't have happened.

[Anonymous No.6339724]

>>6339698
>Sakaguchi was really the only guy in the whole company who wanted to break into movies it wouldn't have happened
I'm 99.9% sure there was a large group of people with common sense among the staff who raised their concerns, but in the (post)bubble days, your superiors were omnipotent, and you never dared to openly question their decisions.

[Anonymous No.6339778]

>>6339235
no, he was a hack who got carried by the real talent at square (kitase, kawazu, ishii, nomura, nojima, etc.) while getting all the credit. he got exposed as soon as he left square and had to make games without the ridiculous amount of talent that prime square had.

[Anonymous No.6339785]

>>6339239
Do people really do this? Not only watch some retards opinion on youtube, they go the extra length and come here to regurgitate is? I fucking hate zoomers so much.

[Anonymous No.6339790]

>>6339535
>Sephiroth is the only mainstrem FF villain
kefka is just as mainstream thanks to all the ledditors who think he's epic like the joker.

[Anonymous No.6339804]

>>6339778
then how do you explain square not making any good games after he left

[Anonymous No.6339805]

>>6339197
What game was it?

[Anonymous No.6339809]

>>6339804
The "too big to care" effect.

[Anonymous No.6339847]

>>6339804
but they have.

[Anonymous No.6339870]

That's not even the funniest one.

This is Tomonobu Itagaki, creator of Ninja Gaiden.

After year after year of MULTIPLE sexual harassment lawsuits from drunkenly groping Tecmo employees, and years of really bad decisions (DOA Xbox exclusives despite the fact it's only popular in Japan, who doesn't buy Xbox). He had the company hire his daughters who spent all day designing increasingly slutty bikinis for DOA Volleyball and giggling.

Eventually the constant lawsuits became too much and they fired his ass.

Since then, DOA has gone the SJDubya route, but he was still off his rocker.

[Anonymous No.6339913]

>>6339778
that's weird. then why have all final fantasy games been shit since he left?

[Anonymous No.6339918]

>>6339870
You can tell, merely by looking at this one single photo, how this guy is the embodiment of everything that led to the collapse of the Japanese economy...

[Anonymous No.6339923]

>>6339913
the main series games were going to shit before he left. ffx was pure garbage and the beginning of the end.
the spinoffs have stayed consistently good without him. and ff7r is kino.

[Anonymous No.6339938]

>>6339923
yeah and prior to FFX is FFIX which is one of the greatest jrpgs of all time, which Sakaguchi had a hand in. hmm........

[Anonymous No.6339963]

why that board points of views are always ridiculously wrong?

[Anonymous No.6339968]

>>6339923
>the spinoffs have stayed consistently good without him. and ff7r is kino
lol

[Anonymous No.6339974]

>>6339938
he also had a hand in x, xi and x-2 as the executive producer. people forget that he didn't leave square immediately after spirits within flopped. he left a few years later when microsoft threw money at him to start his own studio.

[Anonymous No.6339985]

>>6339923
Worst take in a thread of terrible takes, good job.

[Anonymous No.6340000]

I hate /vr/, and 4chan by extension. Most moronic site on earth.

[Anonymous No.6340003]

>>6339197
After 15 years of tremendous successes that catapulted Square into international fame he was shown the door after just one single failure. And his reputation never, ever recovered in Japan. His payback was the absolute harshest that could have been. There's literally no legal way to make it worse.

[Anonymous No.6340005]

>>6339778
>Nomura
>Nojima
>real talent

[Anonymous No.6340008]

>>6339785
I always see threads parroting youtube opinions mere hours after the videos go online.

[Anonymous No.6340013]

>>6340008
link to the video?

[Anonymous No.6340014]

>>6340005
Bullshit, Nomura was a very good director. He wasn't as good of a producer as everyone initially thought, but the games he directed were all great.

[Anonymous No.6340017]

>>6340014
bruh, stop. nomura was a good designer, his FF8/PE era designs were beautiful. he was bad, bad, bad at everything else he touched.

[Anonymous No.6340020]

>>6340014
>>6340017
Oh fuck, I was talking about Sakaguchi. I wanted to call you an imbecile for confusing the two but then saw that I literally wrote Nomura. You're still an imbecile and we both know it, but this time the fault is with me.

[Anonymous No.6340027]

>>6340020
i think you need your ass beaten, punk

[Anonymous No.6340043]

>>6340027
Whatever

[Anonymous No.6340083]

He directed FF III and V (the best FF) so i don't care if he fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6340086]

>>6339246
Play video games

[Anonymous No.6340098]

>>6340014
Nomura is a decent designer (when he's not going overboard with his weird belt/leather fetish) and a good artist, but he's not too great of a director.
>>6340020
>You're still an imbecile and we both know it, but this time the fault is with me.
You're a faggot and a retard.

[Anonymous No.6340104]

>>6340098
>but he's not too great of a director.
He's one of the worst directors in the industry.

[Anonymous No.6340113]

>>6339656
>The era my millennial ass played.
FTFY.

[Anonymous No.6340114]

>>6339253
>actually delivered
Western games don’t work

[Anonymous No.6340118]

>>6339870
Feminist ruin everything

[Anonymous No.6340119]

>>6339656
I, IV and VI were also mainstream in the West, and every single one of them were mainstream in Japan.

[Anonymous No.6340125]

>>6339918
>collapse
Such false claims.

[Anonymous No.6340128]

>Nintendo doesn’t need Square
Seriously, FF remake on the Switch.

[Anonymous No.6340130]

>>6339923
>ffx was pure garbage

[Anonymous No.6340135]

>>6339923
>ffx was pure garbage
It's the first all around good game in the 3D era that started it all and did everything correctly. It's not garbage.
>ff7r is kino.
It is pretty great if most people could forgive it for being a bit different than the original.

[Anonymous No.6340138]

>>6340125
Dude, do you even Lost Decade?

[Anonymous No.6340143]

>>6340114
Tell that to Sony who print billion with them while japanese industry is collapsing

[Anonymous No.6340150]

>>6340128
>you will live long enough to witness square dying and begging nintendo to buy them and nintendo telling them to fuck off

[Anonymous No.6340159]

>>6339870
>DOA Xbox exclusives despite the fact it's only popular in Japan, who doesn't buy Xbox

There was Ninja Gaiden too. They weren't the only one since Microsoft funded lot of japanese games for the first Xbox. Microsoft threw money left and right to implement the Xbox on the market. Now they stopped and Sony give joke budget to japanese studios and focus on western games and nintendo is too small to control the industry.

[Anonymous No.6340168]

>>6340159
Yeah, that resulted in some absolutely kino Sega games for Xbox because they were dead broke and needed cash.

So we got Dreamcast 2.0 on the first Xbox with Crazy Taxi 3, House of the Dead 3, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio future, and a heap of excellent ports.

[Anonymous No.6340171]

>>6340150
i don't think you will. square enix is a well-managed company

t. stock holder

[Anonymous No.6340192]

>>6339197
Counterpoint: no

[Anonymous No.6340217]

>>6340171
Their games are dead-end stuff with bloated budgets. It would only take a couple of large failures to allow someone to buy them. Suddenly and without warning popular opinion WILL turn on their nonsense products and they may end up being unable to react in time.

[Anonymous No.6340235]

He is Square's alpha and omega.

[Anonymous No.6340252]

>>6339778
I hate this autistic folly of thinking Sakaguchi was carried by everyone else. Just because he wasn't the lead developer on a lot of games doesn't mean he had nothing to do with them. He was Vice President and essentially had a ton of sway on the creative atmosphere and ability to green-light lots of varied projects. After he left the corporate suits truly took over and started pimping out the FF brand instead of focusing on the rest of their IPs, and many employees at the time noticed this difference into a more corporate, less creative atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.6340269]

>>6339303
>3
>unplayable
why are zoomers like this?

[Anonymous No.6340274]

>>6339870
DOA sold great as an exclusive. It was always more popular in America than in Japan. And I'm pretty sure there was only one lawsuit, for which he was acquitted. His daughter was born in 1997 and I doubt Tecmo hires children to work on their games.

[Anonymous No.6340290]

>>6339918
That's not the photo of a fat baby boomer CEO.

[Anonymous No.6340305]

>>6340217
you do realize square enix as a company is more diversified than that, right.

ah who am i kidding, of course you don't.

[Anonymous No.6340313]

>>6340305
Squaresoft was plenty diversified and a single bad cartoon allowed eniggers to buy their shit.

[Anonymous No.6340327]

>>6340290
No, it's the obnoxious 80s rockstar wannabe that has 0 business sense, but thinks he's the top of the food chain because one of his (most likely stolen) ideas worked once and made some quick cash.

[Anonymous No.6340339]

>>6340313
>Squaresoft was plenty diversified
that is wholly untrue. you are like a little babby. until then, squaresoft had been making video games for one (1) home console per generation and assorted merchandise for said video games. that's it. everything else, especially their strong gangan comics and online/smartphone positions, came with the enix merger.

[Anonymous No.6340664]

>>6340135
>did everything correctly
did you also think ffxiii was good? because ffx is the exact same shit.

[Anonymous No.6340786]

>>6340017
Nomura is really good at visuals period. There is no way you can say Deep Dive secret ending to Kingdom Hearts wasnt the coolest shit.

[Anonymous No.6340808]

>>6340786
>hey let's rip off the Matrix Reloaded fight scene but with our SD Mickey shit characters surely it won't look ridiculous

[Anonymous No.6341202]

>>6340119
>I, IV and VI were also mainstream in the West,
Nigger no they fucking weren't aside from maybe 1 which had a lot of promotion in Nintendo Power. 4 and 6 were modest successes at best and only with budding JRPG enthusiasts.
>>6339918
>>6340327
>>6340138
Nigger, quit spouting off like a dumbass. Itagaki didn't start working on games as a lead designer until the first DOA in 1996, a good 5 years after the bubble burst. And even then it wasn't until Micorshit came knocking on Tecmo's door that he started acting like a rockstar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH5WOuZXya4

[Anonymous No.6341208]

>>6339246
spam interracial porn and trannies on /gif/ and /b/

[Anonymous No.6341334]

>>6340664
FFXIII was good all things considered. Only issue was the exploration did not open until Chapter 10 or so. FFX was just the one that started it all.

[Anonymous No.6342119]

>>6340339
>SquareèEnix is in the same position as Konami in 2014 surely they will do well in the next years

[Anonymous No.6342121]

>>6342119
>the same position as Konami in 2014
i actually owned konami stock in 2014 too. your statement is not true.

[Anonymous No.6342140]

>>6341202
>quit spouting off like a dumbass
You have serious reading comprehension/reasoning issues. We were not talking about that particular faggot on the pic. We were talking about what he fucking looks like.

[Anonymous No.6342172]

>>6340339
No, that's not it. They owned multimedia franchises and even had a partnership with Electronic Arts in the form of Square Electronic Arts. They were the kind of company who could make cutting-edge CG movies. And just one single movie made them go under.
Of course, Squeenix is a much larger entity. But their games are incomparably costlier too. Well, they've survived major fuck-ups like the original FF14, so one failure won't kill them, probably. But they aren't nearly as fail-proof as you seem to think.

[Anonymous No.6342173]

>>6341202
No, they were mainstream successes. I guess you're far too young to know.