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itt: post games that are worth learning japanese for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-r8zvFE6Ao

>> No.6327714

>>6327681
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d0lyUaaSM5E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AS2Bs0TqChk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pophvooScA8

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>>6327681
Have you played this game?? It's shit! There are way better games in the genre and you manage to pick THIS garbage?

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>> No.6327819

>>6327681
No media is worth learning a language for, but can be a good tool to incentivize and facilitate learning a language. If you want to achieve fluency in a language you're looking at spending at least an hour a day on it for the foreseeable future, so you're gonna want a better justification than to play a handful of games you couldn't otherwise.

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>>6327819
Wise words.

>> No.6327907

>>6327819
>you're gonna want a better justification than to play a handful of games you couldn't otherwise
What about bragging about playing obscure games on /vr/?

>> No.6327916

>>6327907
Wait, you actually play the games? I just skip to the bragging.

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>>6327681
As a fan of Hideshi Hino I would love to see these translated some day. Seeing his ghastly style trasated to primitove 3d is pretty sooky.

>> No.6328140

>>6327907
>>6327916
Hahaha, it's fun to lol at EOPs, heh?

>> No.6330092

bump

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>> No.6330143

>>6330114
If you can read ロリまこ, you don't need more translation.

>> No.6330942

>>6327819
>so you're gonna want a better justification than to play a handful of games you couldn't otherwise.
You can also play tons of games you could have played before using awful translations.
The time you invest in learning is actually used consuming games and other media.

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>>6327681
I played this, beyond the cool weird designs it's pure kusoge, I would be pissed buying this for the original price
The second game is actually good though. But the first game is still worth it for how funny it is

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Linda Cube Again gets my vote. Shachou Eiyuuden is pretty decent for a late PS1 Wuxia JRPG from what I've played aside from the incredibly slow combat.

>> No.6331325

>>6330114
An inside look at the gaming habits of people who actually think they're better than you because they learned japanese

>> No.6331585

<insert random dating sim here>

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It doesn't look like you need to know it to play it, but it looks like a blast to play it.

>> No.6331943

>>6327681
Man, this game really does look like garbo. I like adventure games, but jesus. I know the character designs were done by Hideshi Hino but I feel like they could've made them more appealing somewhat.

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>>6327819
>No media is worth learning a language for

>> No.6332127

MizzFalls before the patch was released.

>>6331985
English is really the only thing I think you could say this is true for, and that's only because it's the main language of the monoculture.

>> No.6332232

>>6330143
what's まこ?
a girl's name?
because if you meant まんこ, you've failed

>> No.6332242

>>6332232
He meant めこ/おめこ, you both fail.
Little girls don't use vulgar words like ま○こ.

>> No.6332267

>>6331985
I don't think there are Witcher (books, not games) who learn original language of the series while having translated volumes available. People have translated media throughout ages for a reason, and now in 2020 there are asspies who think translations are a mistake and would rather spend their time to learn another language because fuck everyone. Inb4 EOP inb4 some fucking Polish book not my glorious big titty girl game for PC-98.

>> No.6332269

>>6332267
>Witcher
obviously I meant Witcher book series fans, dammit

>> No.6332310

>>6332267
My brother started learning Polish due to Wiedzmyn.

>> No.6332350

>>6332267
People have always learned other languages to enjoy their media. This isn't a new thing. It's also not exactly something to brag about (even the dumbest person in Japan knows Japanese), but I feel like people do it because they get fed up with waiting forever for a translation. Even worse, that translation could be inaccurate, full of rewrites, etc. For a modern example, look into Fire Emblem Fates which was absolutely plagued with dialogue that was flat out made up in places and changed for no reason in others (your kid gets rejected by all 3 girls that he can normally marry in the original version to name one particularly egregious bit).

Personally, I realized that I had been waiting for Aeon Genesis to translate Super Robot Wars Alpha for literally 10 years and said to myself "if I had started learning 10 years ago, I'd have finished the entire franchise by now."

If you're in the "video game stories don't matter lol" camp, though, feel free to just tell me to have sex and move on with my life, I guess.

>> No.6332380

>>6327681
famicom tantei club and the JB Hunter games are on my list

>>6332350
learning JP will also make you more aware of puns, wordplay, or other text, phrases, jokes, etc. that are basically impossible to translate. I'm not being like a nakamafag either, there is stuff that you might as well not bother trying to translate, things like this can give you another layer of appreciation for things in the games.

>> No.6332390

>>6327681
Nothing is worth learning Japanese for, shit-tier language with a grammatical structure devised by coked-up children.

>> No.6332554

>>6332390
I think you're wrong!

>> No.6333565

>>6332380
>I'm not being like a nakamafag either, there is stuff that you might as well not bother trying to translate,
Tell me how you translate 仲魔 in a way that at least somewhat conveys its original meaning.

>> No.6333580

>>6333565
ComrAIDS.

>> No.6333613

It sure feels good to know Japanese. I'll tell you though, simply wanting to learn it to play games won't be enough.

The mistake many of you make is setting your initial goal to something that only becomes possible after months or maybe even years of dedication. Then you study for a week or two, maybe a month and get discouraged. Some of you stop outright, others start obsessing over the pointless minutiae of your study methods instead of doing any actual studying. And just like that, you're doomed.

Instead you need to realize it will take time and set reasonable incremental goals instead.

>> No.6333660

>>6333565
How do you translate a term that was made up for a single game?

>> No.6333939

I never got why people would incite other people to not learn Japanese
>it's useless! why would you want to learn just to play games!
Why do they care about the anonymous person's willing to learn?
Moreover, it's actually contradictory because one of their arguments is that it's just better to wait for translations. But wait, if more people learn japanese, that means more people are going to do translations, which means you (the person who isn't willing to learn) can be ultimately benefited from having more translations for free.
So what's the deal? You want free translations, but you don't want people to learn the language? Where are these free translations gonna come from?

>> No.6333952

>>6333939
>But wait, if more people learn japanese, that means more people are going to do translations
That's wrong. People learn Japanese for their own benefit, not to do others a favor. If I can learn Japanese then I can expect others to do the same.
Look at boards like /a/. The amount of Japanese speakers has increased significantly yet fan translations from Japanese are practically dead.
>Where are these free translations gonna come from?
Google.
The people actually releasing translations are often the ones that need them themselves and machine translations are seen as an acceptable tool along the way.

>> No.6334159

What is that one for ps1 that has a dragon as the main character and the backgrounds are really beautiful like Legend of Mana? It looks so good.

>> No.6334396
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>>6334159
Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari, it's actually a Saturn exclusive.

>> No.6334403

>>6333952
>That's wrong. People learn Japanese for their own benefit, not to do others a favor
Of course, but if there are more people who are learning, there will definitely be more translations than if there were 0 people learning. That's my point. People who complain about people learning japanese, but then also say that they're fine playing fan translations are being contradictory, because translations come from people who learn the language, to varying degrees.
>The people actually releasing translations are often the ones that need them themselves and machine translations are seen as an acceptable tool along the way.
Good translate is a fine tool, as are dictionary sites or kanji sites, but they are tools. A person who studies japanese would still use dictionaries when doing a translation.
A person who is not familiar with japanese at all will have a significant hard time trying to translate anything, even using google translate.

>> No.6334739

>>6333565
What's the difference between that and 使い魔 or 眷属

>> No.6334745

>>6334403
>A person who is not familiar with japanese at all will have a significant hard time trying to translate anything, even using google translate.
That doesn't stop them. They run the script through a translation service and then edit it to make it less obvious even though they didn't understand the original text.
Then they release it and people eat it up because they have no idea they are being scammed.

>> No.6334751

>>6334739
It's a specific concept from Megami Tensei. You meet demons and let them become your companions. They are more partners than underlings.

>> No.6334781

>>6334751
Sounds like Pokemon to me

>> No.6335487

>>6334745
Okay, that still supports my point of view. People who rely entirely on translations will want to have somewhat good translations, and for that, they need other people to learn Japanese.
Again, the whole "I don't want you guys to learn japanese, but I want translations" stance is contradictory.

>> No.6335820

>>6335487
Where the fuck did you found this citation? Nobody said this, they're don't want to learn Japanese by themselves, but nobody gives a fuck about others, even the trolls.

>> No.6335848

>>6335820
>but nobody gives a fuck about others, even the trolls.
Every time learning japanese comes up, a lot of people start preaching about how it's not useful or shouldn't be done, discouraging other people to learn.
If I was in the "I want translations, but don't want to learn" boat, I'd wholeheartedly encourage people to learn the language, so that I could, eventually, get more/better translations.
I think it's mostly that they take it personal, so they go "No, I don't want to, and you shouldn't want to either", but it is contradictory when you reason it and don't take it personal.

>> No.6335869

>>6335487
People who rely on translations have no idea what good translations are.
They even complain when you tell them that a translation is garbage.

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>>6336047
Actually I haven't played Amagami or True Love yet, but /v/ seems to like them.

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How much do AJATT autists usually overrate their comprehension percentage?

>> No.6337521

>>6337495
I am an ESL teacher and he's not wrong. Certainly not about moving on from the learning materials and onto the real thing as fast as you can. Just immersing yourself into a foreign language is counterproductive, but using exercises instead of real content past the initial learning stage is equally wasteful. I would say you only need about one months of (adequately intense) grammar study and word cramming before you need to move on to real use if you want to learn the language with any efficiency at all.

>> No.6337530

>>6337521
You're making his position more reasonable and "in-the-middle" than it actually is,

>> No.6337552

>>6337530
Am I? The poster accepts that concent for learners is good for beginners. It's part of his statement about it being unsuitable for anyone but the very early beginner, sure, but he still obviously comprehends the basic point.

>> No.6337673

I wish i was smart enough to learn any language like that. Instead i just know english and spanish. Pig languages
I dont understand why people who learn japanese have to make me feel bad. Likewise to people good at math who flaunt it over people like me.

This world is unfait

>> No.6337754

every video game made in japanese equally. its not specific games that justify it, but the entirety of it, along with the lack of worry for poor translation or fanpatches. you are Unstoppable!

>> No.6337849

>>6332380
Did you play the translation of the Famicom Detective Club Part 2? It's a pretty solid story

>> No.6337965

>>6337754
Really hatw this type of posts

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>>6327681
this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6l6I5cKXw

>> No.6338510

>>6337673
even the dumbest person in japan knows japanese, and i know you're smarter than that.

>> No.6338514

>>6337495
>AJATTer makes a post like this
>goes and takes N1
>fails with a pathetic score
>"i'm gonna restart my journey, so technically i'm at day 1 and look at all the progress i've made"
>the cycle continues until they burn out

>> No.6338526

>>6338510
Nah. Genuinely no. Im dumber than the dumbest japanese and have no strong motivation or willpower

>> No.6338545

>>6338526
if you can get out of bed every day, you can look at japanese text for a bit every day. if you can't get out of bed every day, go get help. actually, get help regardless, you sound like you could use some.

>> No.6338583

>>6333952
> If I can learn Japanese then I can expect others to do the same.
The entire issue is not everyone is the same. That is kind of boomerism logic of a blank slate but without recognizing that humans are born with only specific abilities and some limitations. Its possible do not get me wrong but to say everyone is the same and not recognize other factors is not the best way to go about it.
>Look at boards like /a/. The amount of Japanese speakers has increased significantly yet fan translations from Japanese are practically dead.
I use to be on /a/ a few years back and i go on every now and then. I will say they do have some loyal scan-translations that know Japanese very well which is tiny. It does help niche content find a more niche audience. But i will tell you that although there is "more Japanese speakers" a lot do not know the language all that well outside very basic stuff or sentences. Fan translation is mostly dead because there is little incentive to do something for free when you can get paid for it. Some will do it for free to break in the industry sure or sell off translations they have to get their name out.

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>>6333952
>Google.
>The people actually releasing translations are often the ones that need them themselves and machine translations are seen as an acceptable tool along the way.
Let me tell you something i go on /jp/ and have been on the visual novel translation thread for almost 5 years now. I have seen every single person who comes on the scene who has this mindset that MTL is acceptable, edit parts out and then it looks like a garbled mess. When in that same span of time the person could have learned Japanese and actually came out with something more decent or break into the industry itself. Sekai Project has had this mindset and they have not released much Visual Novels in the past 4 years even Moege visual novels that are usually written with a middle school language level, while Mangagamer has released a lot and is on the verge of translating Rance and Higurashi. My whole thing is like this person here >>6333952 is that there is no shortcuts to great translation, only daily practice, immersion and basically patience.
>>6335487
>>6335848
>Dont learn Japanese
I think what you mean is that others are telling you its not as easy as they say it is. Yes there is the crabs in a bucket mentality but there is also those who are pragmatic and live in the world of reality.

>> No.6338616

>>6327681
fuck off saint

>> No.6338625

>>6338595
>crabs in a bucket mentality
It's not even that. That'd be if there was no way to get translations, which then would mean that the ONLY way to play certain games would be to learn japanese. But considering the way to get translations is to get people to learn the language, then it makes no sense for these people to discourage others from learning it.
>pragmatic and live in the world of reality.
These people know almost nothing about the other anons, so they wouldn't be able to make a pragmatic judgement of these anons' life choices.

>> No.6338639

>>6338583
If you could learn english from nothing as a toddler you can learn japanese with a base foundation of human knowledge as an adult.

>> No.6338645

>>6332350
>But I feel like people do it because they get fed up with waiting forever for a translation. Even worse, that translation could be inaccurate, full of rewrites, etc.
It's odd to mention this because i started learning due to the fact that i wanted to play games that were out in Japan and would never come westward due to the moralistic puritan stances on various things like religious imagery,sex,lewd stuff, and even politics. I want games exactly as they are written and created, but unfortunately we perhaps may never get that until 15 to 20 years later. I can not wait that long and by that time i can at least be competent enough to be able to read and import what i want as well. Also you are right about translation being bad because there is some horribly translated by MTL and rewritten that makes hardly any sense whatsoever.
>For a modern example, look into Fire Emblem Fates which was absolutely plagued with dialogue that was flat out made up in places and changed for no reason in others (your kid gets rejected by all 3 girls that he can normally marry in the original version to name one particularly egregious bit).
You are right and that does play a role as well. There is no point to buying something if you are getting 1/3rd of the content cut out.
>Personally, I realized that I had been waiting for Aeon Genesis to translate Super Robot Wars Alpha for literally 10 years and said to myself "if I had started learning 10 years ago, I'd have finished the entire franchise by now."
Most people feel this way. Including myself.
>If you're in the "video game stories don't matter lol" camp, though, feel free to just tell me to have sex and move on with my life, I guess.
True at some point people should not care, because at least you learned a whole new language, usually people get jealous because they made no progress at all whatsoever.

>> No.6338656

>>6338625
>That'd be if there was no way to get translations, which then would mean that the ONLY way to play certain games would be to learn japanese. But considering the way to get translations is to get people to learn the language, then it makes no sense for these people to discourage others from learning it.
Well then do not listen to them. Ever remember the response of "do not respond to trolls" or even to just not care. I mean granted i get that you want translations and people should learn Japanese if they want to do so. But i get the feeling that you care more about what they think than what you think.
>>6338639
>If you could learn english from nothing as a toddler you can learn japanese with a base foundation of human knowledge as an adult.
Not everyone is the same anon. If what you said was true everyone would be speaking Japanese and English on this board cross-conversation wise and this subject would not be discussed in the thread.

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>>6338656
Regarding your last point, I think he was saying that people can (as in, have the ability to) learn Japanese. That is, if they really want it and are willing to put in the time. Most people aren't willing to put in the time and that's why everyone isn't speaking Japanese and English.

>> No.6338679

>>6338665
Oh i get what you mean. Yes then the person is correct.
> Most people aren't willing to put in the time and that's why everyone isn't speaking Japanese and English.
Absolutely i see this far too much. Everyone thinks they can shortcut around things by MTL or just by learning from watching Japanese pure.

>> No.6338680

>>6338545
>get help
Imagine implying that soneone is mentally unfit and not thinking that is the peak of cruelty

>> No.6338691

>>6338545
I have no reason to learn japanese. I dont watch anime

>> No.6338761

>>6338625
The bucket is being an EOP. The crabs don't want the other crabs to leave, because it implies that they too could easily get out of the bucket by putting in a little bit of effort.

As far as your average EOP is concerned, translations appear out of thin air. What matters is not looking stupid, and someone else learning Japanese makes them look stupid.

>>6338656
>If what you said was true everyone would be speaking Japanese and English on this board cross-conversation wise and this subject would not be discussed in the thread.
Anyone CAN learn Japanese, that doesn't mean everyone will. Everyone can learn to swim or ride a bike, barring physical defects in the same way people with half a brain can't learn a language. But that doesn't mean everyone can swim or ride a bike, because some people just don't bother learning how.

>> No.6338764

>>6338691
Anime is probably the least interesting thing to learn japanese for.
Books > Music lyrics > Movies/documentaries > Video games > Anime

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXFsUH452dk

>> No.6338905

>>6338764
I dont do any of those things aside from video games and even thats rare
Its way too impossible to learn japanese

>> No.6338912

>>6332310
The games are written in English adn the books are unreadable trash worse than Drizzt. How fucking pathetic is your friend?

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>>6327681
Wachenröder (Sega Saturn)

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/wachenroder/

>> No.6339047

>>6339042
I remember playing this like 15 years ago with a translated script in a plain text documend open alongside the emulator window. What a hideous fucking game it was lol. Ahh, exploring the weird niche shit in the early ages of broadband internet.

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>>6327681
Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/nanatsu-kaze-no-shima-monogatari/

>> No.6339147

>>6339042
>Range Murata
I thought that art style on the cover looked familiar

>> No.6339150

>>6339042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFk8lOLRRPI
the music is grating and would get old real fast

>> No.6340814

bump

>> No.6340821

>try to learn Japanese through video games
>text is so tiny and malformed from the resolution i cant even see how a native would make out characters
do japanese just not read the games and make up the story in their head

>> No.6340835

>>6340821
I thnk t's lk hw y cn rmv th vwls frm nglsh nd stll fgr t t.

>> No.6340849

>>6340821
>language has an alphabet
>keeps the stupid chinese emoticons around because reasons

>> No.6340854

>>6340849
Japanese should really just use a single alphabet. they seem to like the west more than the east so romaji would make sense but its a stretch. in reality they should just use one of the 3 that they use day to day. kanji honestly seems like a meme. almost like their version of Latin in the west. and from what i hear kanji isnt really a representation of the spoken language in written form.
why dont the japanese settle between hiragana and katakana? are the only arguments
>muh tradition
and
>fuck foreigners
?

>> No.6341059

>>6340854
Too many homophones for a single alphabet. Kanji's not a perfect system as you'll see natives struggle to know how to read some kanji, but it's much easier to parse than the alternative.

>> No.6341117

>>6340854
try reading japanese without kanji

>> No.6342258

>>6340854
Really funny to see you brainlets post shit like this. Yes, of course I thought something similar when I just started learning Japanese. The difference is that I got better. Will you be able to?

>> No.6344347

>>6327681
A video game is not worth learning Japanese for. It's just a nice bonus.

>> No.6344363

>>6333565
You could (and would) probably translate it as 'familiar' most accurately, but in fact it's a specific neologism that sounds like 'friend/partner' but is spelled with the character for 'demon' in it. It's a kind of wordplay you can only do in Japanese and it's interesting but not tremendously subtle.

I like noticing these things but I don't think you're missing a massive part of the game's plot if you don't.

>> No.6344376

>>6342258
im not learning japanese. i never implied i did. im just an outside observer. not sure why you resorted to ad hominem like this. im pretty confused here man

>> No.6344516

>>6344376
The way you said the Japanese should use romaji instead of kanji suggested that you had any knowledge on the topic, but apparently you don't. What a surprise.

Thing is that switching to a single alphabet would require a complete revision of the entire language, and that's not really feasible. It's a bit like saying "well, it would be nice for global trade if everyone spoke the same language, so let's just force everyone in the world to speak Esperanto starting now."

>> No.6346348

bump

>> No.6347776

>>6328119
It looks good for 1996 psx, but I can't lie, the gameplay looks repetitive and not engaging at all.

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>>6334159
You might also like london seirei tanteidan. Even the music is similar to legend of mana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdVA4iFHWIw

>> No.6348314

>>6331597
I beat this a while back, fun game.
I might try again when I have a better understanding of japanese

>> No.6349549 [DELETED] 

>>6331085
Hi saint

>> No.6350513

>>6327819
Shit I played all through the first Megami Tensei using google translate.

>> No.6350520

>>6330114
If you're gonna be funny at least pick a retro title like Lolita Syndrome AKA Square's first game

>> No.6350524

>>6327681
Only weeaboos learn ching chong to play a game.

>> No.6350538

>>6333565
Demi-fiend
Devil-fiend
Devil-friend.
>>6334781
Technically same genre, but did it first.

>> No.6350634

>>6350520
there are no good retro lolige

>> No.6350659

>>6350634
They were all extremely shitty crude obscure underground eroge but that's what made them good

>> No.6350669

>>6350634
>>6350659
There were good mainstream eroge with lolis like Dragon Knight 4.

>> No.6350765

>>6350669
that's not what lolige means.

>> No.6351116

>>6338767
Oh, damn, I remember playing a demo for this on a demo disc (PS Underground?).

>> No.6351121

>>6340835
I think tis lick how why can remove the ??? from English and still faggot it?

>> No.6353507

>>6348183
looks comfy

>> No.6353553

>>6333565
Beelzebuddy.

>> No.6353562

>>6344376
Japanese has a ridiculous number of homophones. Kanji help to differentiate words that have the same pronunciation.

>> No.6353582

>>6353562
EOPs don't really understand even the basics of linguistics, so throwing scary words like "homophones" at them just makes them think of faggotmobiles.

Really the only response to these retards is to go "holy shit, why didn't any of the millions of Japanese ever think of that! I'm calling up the fucking tenno heika right now to give him this hot new take that somehow nobody else has thought up! Think of all the money they'll save on ink!"

>> No.6353584

>>6353562
And then you have to deal with homographs.

>> No.6353616

>>6353562
Another great thing about Kanji is that it can compress information and let you give an incredible amount of info in just a few small characters.
English: Washing machine. 14 characters, 15 including the space.
Hiragana: せんたくき. 5 characters.
Kanji: 洗濯機. 3 fucking characters! Holy shit!

>> No.6353997

>>6353616
letters in english in total: 26
letters in kana: over 70 times 2
characters in kanji: over 9000
no pro without con.

>> No.6355038

>>6338680
i'm not saying "lol ur dumb" i'm saying "if you seriously think that you're literally the dumbest person in the world you need to get therapy because you're very clearly lacking self esteem."

>> No.6356672
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>> No.6356693

>>6356672
Is this dolphin porn?

>> No.6357879
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This, basically

>> No.6357905

>all these posts
>no LSD Dream Emulator

>> No.6357952

>>6357905

cant you play the without any knowledge of japanese at all though?

>> No.6358007

>>6357952
Yeah but there are also a ton of textures and stuff with Japanese text so it would be better if you could read it.

>> No.6360498

>>6327681
I can not name a single one worth putting myself through that hell.

>> No.6360512

>>6350513
You have to be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan.

>> No.6362470

>>6351121
I think it's like how you can remove the vowels from English and still *figure it out*, ESL.

>> No.6362478

>>6337673
English isn't a pig language.

>> No.6363618

>>6353582
>if you dont know japanese youre an eop
There are more languages than english and japanese

>> No.6363626

>>6355038
Then why dont you help me learn japanese?

There are so many conflicting pieces of asvice and i learn nothing from anki. My brain isnt wired to acquire language that way
I want to learn a language as i use it but it seems thats not an option with japanese.
I guess im too dumb
Im gonna be stuck with my pig languages forever

>> No.6365343

>>6363626
I don't know how

>> No.6366113

how about you try and read a book for a fucking change.

>> No.6366134
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Gokinjo Boukentai (SFC), a comical JRPG where you play as kindergarteners on adventures around the neighborhood.

>> No.6366138
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>>6366134

Front Mission Alternative (PSX), a real-time spin-off to the Square-developed mech tactics franchise.

>> No.6366142
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>>6366138

Boku no Natsuyasumi (PSX), an adventure game where you play as a grade-school boy on summer break in the Japanese countryside.

>> No.6366147
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>>6366142

Wachenroder (SAT), a steampunk SRPG with polygon-animated combat sequences.

>> No.6366151
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>>6366147

Machi (PSX), a choose-your-own-adventure thriller with live-action photography and performances.

>> No.6366153
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>>6366151

Twilight Syndrome (PSX), a horror adventure where you play as a group of school girls investigating ghost stories and rumors at school.

>> No.6366154
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6366154

>>6366153

Moonlight Syndrome (PSX), a Twilight Syndrome visual novel spin-off with darker themes, directed with Suda51.

>> No.6366158
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>>6366154

Yuuyami Doori Tankentai (PSX), a spiritual successor to Twilight Syndrome where you play as a group of kids (and a dog) investigating neighborhood rumors in suburban Tokyo.

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>>6366158

Circadia (PSX), a sci-fi visual novel with turn-based combat encounters and an ensemble cast.

>> No.6366167
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>>6366162

Fuuraiki (PS1), a visual novel where you play as a photographer traveling across rural Japan on motorbike.

>> No.6366170
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6366170

>>6366167

Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari (SAT), a fantasy adventure where you play as a young dragon running errands for a host of bizarre creatures on a remote island.

>> No.6366174
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6366174

>>6366170

Blue Wing Blitz (WSC), a Square-developed SRPG where the characters fight on steampunk planes and airships.

>> No.6366179
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>>6366174

London Seirei Tanteidan (PSX), a JRPG where you play as a pair of street urchins in turn-of-century steampunk London.

>> No.6366184
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>>6366179

Charumera (PSX), a Myojo Foods-sponsored sim where you play as a traveling ramen salesman in postwar Japan.

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>>6366184

Famicom Bunko: Hajimari no Mori (FC), an adventure game where you play as a young boy who befriends forest spirits after moving to the Japanese countryside.

>> No.6366193
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>>6366189

Dragon Quest: Shounen Yangus to Fushigi no Dungeon (PS2), an entry in the Mystery Dungeon roguelike series starring a Dragon Quest VIII's Yangus as a kid.

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>>6366193

Hungry Ghosts (PS2), a first-person horror RPG where you travel through Buddhist hell.

>> No.6366201
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>>6366196

Inaka Kurashi (PS2), a Boku no Natsuyasumi spin-off where you play as a young girl on summer break at one of Japan's resort islands.

>> No.6366204
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>>6366201

Bokura no Kazoku (PSP), a Boku no Natsuyasumi spin-off where you raise children as a middle-class Japanese family.

>> No.6366205
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>>6366204

Taishou Mononoke Ibunroku (PS2), an RPG where you play as a shrine maiden summoning youkai and using magic against opposing sorcerers.

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>>6366205

Black/Matrix (SAT), a fujo-bait dark fantasy SRPG by the developers of the Summon Night games.

>> No.6366746

>>6363626
Anki is supposed to reinforce your learning by testing your knowledge with data based on how you performed previously. Don't expect it to teach everything new to you.
There are various approaches to learning kanji, typically based on their particles. This isn't a one size fits all approach, you have to see for yourself what method suits you most.

>> No.6367496

>>6357879
>>6330114
patrician

>> No.6367515

>>6328119
I just read Panorama of Hell for the first time a couple weeks ago and absolutely loved it. I thought Hell Baby was ok too but I didn't like it as much. What else should I read by him? And do you know of any other good horror mangaka?

>> No.6368069

>>6334396
How would you translate that game name to English in a way that sounds appropriate? It's just "Seven Windy Islands Story" but that doesn't sound cool. Also not 100% on that translation, so sorry if I fucked it up.