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6316552 No.6316552 [Reply] [Original]

I'm sorry, but no game on this system is that good.

>> No.6316567

>>6316552
You're the Bernie poster aren't you?

>> No.6316576

>>6316552
No you're not sorry. You haven't tried hard enough to make that statement. Stop the disrespect.

>> No.6316582
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6316582

>he hasn't played Baku Baku

>> No.6316584
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>>6316552
Do you actively try not to enjoy games or something?

>> No.6316587

Make suggestions. I feel like I hit a lot of big names but I don't know if I really explored the depth.

>> No.6316590
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6316590

>>6316552
No shit. Why do you think that fuckin garbage failed so spectacularly?

>> No.6316597

>>6316567
it wasn't the bernieposter, but here he is: >>6316590
mere 15 minutes after the thread was made. He's obsessed.

>> No.6316603

>>6316587
Why should we spoon feed you? Like anyone cares that some random normie can't even find a Saturn game he can play lol

>> No.6316609

>>6316587
If you've played the big names then all that lies beyond is inferior ports.

>> No.6316627

>>6316597
Or it's the same person and they're trying to stir up shit.

>> No.6316629

>>6316603
Your board is SHIT.

>> No.6316635

>>6316627
The IP count went up. Yeah he could use VPNs but I give him the benefit of the doubt.

>> No.6316637

>>6316635
Seriously there's about 3 Saturn shit posters on this board.

1) The Bernie Poster.
2) The "I played everything on this system and it has no good games!" Poster.
3) The "It has nothing but Inferior Ports" Poster.

And like clockwork they all posted in this thread soon after one of them made it.

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>>6316629
Lol you poor baby.

>> No.6316650

>>6316637
I'm the inferior ports poster and I only say so because it's the truth. I could only stand by and watch Saturn fans post their recommended games images without speaking up.

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>>6316637
Given that you know that and one is weak repetitive trolling, the other is the opinion of a lazy idiot and the third is simply not true, why get your panties in a twist over it? Let em whine!

>> No.6316660

>>6316652
It's not really that I'm upset by it, it just gets old seeing the same arguments being posted here over and over again.

>> No.6316663

>>6316650
Most of these "inferior" ports are still pretty damn close and virtually identical in many cases, and they include exclusive modes (like training mode or more customizable vs mode options).
Stop sperging, Saturn arcade ports are good and valid recommendations.

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>>6316660
I just mock them. I mean who can actually try saying with a straight face that the Saturn was all ports and why care about anything he says regardless? The dude is a retard lol.

>> No.6316671

>>6316663
Not only that, using that logic we can throw away a large chunk of just about any consoles library.

Think about all the Playstation, N64, SNES, Genesis, PC Engine, NES, etc. games that would get thrown out if we said they don't count because there's better versions available on other platforms?

>> No.6316723

Isn't bitching that a company which is largely known for making arcade games put a lot of ports of arcade games on their home system a little pants on head? It's like complaining that the Neo Geo has a lot of ports.

>> No.6316729

All there is is weebshit and Panzer Dragoon. The Saturn fuckin blows lol. The Dreamcast tho...

>> No.6316734

>>6316723
The Sega Genesis had way more exclusive games.

>> No.6316740

>>6316637
I still wonder if Bernieposter is doing it as a character in-joke or if he actually hates the console.

>> No.6316742

>>6316663
>>6316671
The cope is real.
Do you see people suggesting inferior PS1 ports as some of the best PS1 games of all time?
No, but in every Saturn thread it's the same inferior ports suggested. People here literally thought the Saturn had the same hardware as it's arcade counterpart (so that's how they're arcade perfect!!11) until I educated them otherwise, so you can thank me.

>> No.6316747

>>6316729
>The Dreamcast tho...

Is more of the same, just with Sonic and 2K Sports.

>> No.6316751
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6316751

>>6316734
Yeah Genesis was a kick ass system. More than one system can be awesome lol.

>> No.6316759 [DELETED] 

>>6316742
>Do you see people suggesting inferior PS1 ports?

Yes, they bring up things like Tekken, Ridge Racer, Soul Edge, Final Fantasy 7, 8, and 9 (Which have been outdone by PC, PSP, PS4, and Switch versions), Metal Gear Solid (Gamecube and PC), Resident Evil 1-3 (Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PC), Spyro 1-3, Crash, etc. (Recent HD remasters), etc.

>People here literally thought the Saturn had the same hardware as it's arcade counterpart (so that's how they're arcade perfect!!11) until I educated them otherwise.

Oh you're that retard. Sorry but the ST-V titan has the exact same hardware as the Saturn. ST-V Titan is to Saturn as the MVS is to the AES. Trying to say they're different is nitpicking at it's finest.

>> No.6316763

>>6316742
>Do you see people suggesting inferior PS1 ports?

Yes, they bring up things like Tekken, Ridge Racer, Soul Edge, Final Fantasy 7, 8, and 9 (Which have been outdone by PC, PSP, PS4, and Switch versions), Metal Gear Solid (Gamecube and PC), Resident Evil 1-3 (Dreamcast, Gamecube, and PC), Spyro 1-3, Crash (Recent HD remasters), etc.

>People here literally thought the Saturn had the same hardware as it's arcade counterpart (so that's how they're arcade perfect!!11) until I educated them otherwise.

Oh you're that retard. Sorry but the ST-V titan has the exact same hardware as the Saturn. ST-V Titan is to Saturn as the MVS is to the AES. Trying to say they're different is nitpicking at it's finest.

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>>6316742
Did it ever occur to you that Sega fans just plain like games like Daytona and Virtua Fighter? So they tend to focus on those games when asked?

>> No.6316772

>Necronomicon
>Last Gladiator
>Pinball Graffiti
>True Pinball
>Hyper 3D Pinball
>Fantastic Pinball
>Pro Pinball The Web

Saturn has easily the best representation of vidya pinball to ever exist. For that reason alone, my system gets played almost daily.
Necronomicon is a fucking masterpiece that makes even modern stuff Pinball FX3 look like dogshit.

>> No.6316773

>>6316763
Final Fantasy 7, 8, and 9, MGS, RE 1-3, Spyro 1-3 and Crash 1-3 are not ports.

>> No.6316778

>>6316773
Yet you've called Saturn originals ports before.

>> No.6316780

>>6316778
I do not make mistakes of that kind.

>> No.6316781

>>6316780
Yet when I brought up Grandia you said it was a port.

>> No.6316784

>>6316781
I did not, the Playstation is the one that's inferior there. Maybe someone else picked up on the inferior ports thing, makes sense. They'd be wrong in saying that though.

>> No.6316787
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6316787

One sometimes has to remember that the people on this board are lazy and need to be told what to like. Bit they're also picky and only like what they're familiar with.

>> No.6316803

>>6316784
Nah it was you if you're truly taking responsibility for being that guy. I gave a long list of Saturn titles with Grandia being in it along with things like Sakura Taisen, Dragon Force, etc. And you replied with "All inferior ports."

Seriously we've had this same argument with you so many times that I pretty much remember most of your shit posts. Maybe you should try some different arguments instead of parroting the same thing over and over again.

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>>6316803
I'll admit that sound exactly like the kind of thing I'd post, but I must of been out of my mind if I specifically said that Grandia was better on PSX.

>> No.6316815

>>6316807
Either that or you didn't take the time to actually read what all was in the list.

>> No.6316817

>>6316552
I disagree. I'm a Sega Saturn owner and I own a lot of games for it. They're all good, especially games like Fighters Megamix, Panzer Dragoon, Virtua Cop 2 and Fighting Vipers.

>> No.6316853

>>6316772
I can't believe that I'm just now seeing Necronomicon. That game is gonna be next in my Saturn stack.

>>6316787
That's the internet for ya. Sega Saturn haters everywhere. Sega of America's marketing did that to them.

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>>6316552

>> No.6316943

>>6316807
Oh yeah this is the retard that thinks cotton boomerang is any different from arcade to saturn. Why isn't he banned exactly? Isn't he also the 64 autist?

>> No.6316958

>>6316943
>Isn't he also the 64 autist?
You mean the man with two Saturns, whose favorite game is Earthworm Jim and also the man typing this sentence right now? Yes it's me.

>> No.6316981 [DELETED] 

>>6316763
>he doesn't know the st-v had revised versions of saturn hardware that that the st-v was based on saturn hardware but not identical to it

>> No.6316993

>>6316763
>Sorry but the ST-V titan has the exact same hardware as the Saturn.
Wrong.
You really didn't know the ST-V had revised versions of Saturn hardware and that the ST-V was based on Saturn hardware, but not identical to it?

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6317007

>>6316981
>>6316993
cool how

>> No.6317028

>>6316993
Ok, what part of the hardware is different?

The 2 SH-2s?
VDP1?
VDP2?
The SCSP?
The SCU?
The DSP in the SCU?
The SH-1?
The 2MB of RAM split into 1MB of High work RAM and 1MB of Low Work RAM?
The 512KB of VDP1 VRAM?
The 512KB of VDP2 VRAM?
The 2x 256KB VDP1 Frame buffers?
The 512KB of Audio RAM?
The 11.3 MHz 68EC000?

What part of the hardware is radically different to say they are not the same hardware?

>> No.6317034

>>6317028
Well the PCB is bigger and there's a couple of big ol cartridge slots on em. I know because I have one.

>> No.6317047

>>6317028
>all those layers of PCB that would have been required to maintain the traces for all of those chips
It’s like the hardware design team wanted to bankrupt Sega

>> No.6317048

>>6317034
>The PCB is bigger!

That's retarded nitpicking and you know it.

>It uses cartridges!
As can the Saturn, Sega simply told developers they weren't allowed to do it because it could open the door for piracy.

>> No.6317090

>>6317034
Also comparing the motherboards, I'm seeing the same SH-2s, VDP1, VDP2, SCSP, SCU, M68EC000. I'm also seeing the same amounts of RAM.

The only thing I'm not seeing is the SH-1 which makes sense as that's there for the CD-ROM drive which the ST-V titan doesn't have in it's default configuration. That's not going to make much of a difference though as developers can't access that chip, it's part of the CD-ROM block. To developers it's a black box that they ask to get data from via the SCU.

Other than that I just see additional circuitry to deal with JAMMA connections and the Video Driver board to interface with an arcade monitor. That has nothing to do with the actual hardware running the games though.

So again, the ST-V titan is just a Sega Saturn modified to run in a JAMMA arcade cabinet.

>> No.6317105

>>6317007
>>6316993
>>6316958
paging the 64 autist
>>6317090
>>6317048

>> No.6317109

>>6317105
Hey only the third post is me. I'm not talking about ST-V in this thread.

>> No.6317112

>>6317109
back up your autism for once you pussy

>> No.6317115

>>6317112
Hey man I thought they had differences months ago but I was corrected.

>> No.6317116

>>6317115
You were making retarded statements days ago about them.

>> No.6317119

>>6317115
>Hey man I thought they had differences a few minutes ago but I was corrected.

At least be honest.

>> No.6317120

>>6316742
>The cope is real.
The only cope here is people who can't afford a Sega Saturn.

>> No.6317127

>>6317116
That 100% wasn't me.
>>6317119
Very funny, but not accurate.

>> No.6317131

>>6316958
>>6317127
it was

>> No.6317141

>>6317131
No it wasn't. I have no interest in debating the ST-V or it's ports since they don't fall into my criticism of the console's library. They are arcade perfect ports. Just because there are some arcade perfect ports doesn't mean there isn't a ton of inferior stuff from other hardware though.

>> No.6317142

>>6317141
>isn't a ton of inferior stuff from other hardware though.
name them all for me

>> No.6317145

>>6317142
Post any recommended Saturn games image.

>> No.6317151
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6317151

>>6317145
name them all and describe exactly why they aren't worth playing

>> No.6317193

>>6317090
>So again, the ST-V titan is just a Sega Saturn modified to run in a JAMMA arcade cabinet.
Wrong.
Also comparing the motherboards, I'm seeing the same SH-2s, VDP1, VDP2, SCSP, SCU, M68EC000. I'm also seeing the same amounts of RAM.
Wrong.
>>6317028
>Ok, what part of the hardware is different?
>What part of the hardware is radically different to say they are not the same hardware?
LMAO! Look at this goalpost shifter. Now the hardware has to be RADICALLY different in order for him to admit they're different.
For being such a deceitful retard who shifts goalposts, I'm not going to tell you the answer to your question. You'll just have to look more closely if you want to know. Any discussion with you is pointless because you've already proven yourself to be someone who moves goalposts when he begins to lose in a conversation. Just take this L.

>> No.6317214

>>6317151
There isn't enough text possible in one thread for the sheer amount of them on this list. Also that is a lot of shovelware especially in the Japanese section of this list, absolutely no quality control.

>> No.6317285

>>6316765
game?

>> No.6317287

>>6317285
guardian heroes

>> No.6317292
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>>6316763
>arcade and saturn same hardware
ha. almost got me

>> No.6317458

>>6316552
>I'm sorry
You sure are

>> No.6317639

Imagine still having fanboy arguments as an old man. Imagine still holding on to arguments you had years ago about videogame systems, and still being mad about it.
I genuinely can't imagine it, but I'm witnessing it. Please, please find something else to do with your brain. This is so pathetic.

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>>6317214
Not him but that response highlights that you really are just purely trolling. It's like the Saturn killed your childhood puppy or something. What I don't get is why the people trying to argue with you feel so insecure that they try to change your mind. I think it's kind of funny you would look at all those games and just blanket poo poo them all. You just sound like someone with incredibly limited taste.

>> No.6317654

>>6316552
Die Hard Arcade is really good.

>> No.6317747

>>6316552
When comparing in general with PS1 kinda agree. The thing is, Saturn is more like a mid-90s console in gameplay and art. It was a very short time frame in between home 2D games and more expansive games with adequate use of 3D. In those terms Saturn has a great competent library of titles (in opposition for example to botched consoles like 3DO or Jaguar)

>> No.6317753

>>6316763
>Ridge Racer
PS1 RR is better than arcade RR
>FF7/8/9 outdone by subsequent butchery
No
>Metal Gear Solid (Gamecube and PC)
GC remake and PC port are much worse
>Resident Evil 2/3
Only good ports are on the GC and that's only true if you go through the pain in the ass to force 240p with Swiss. Best played on PS1
>Spyro 1-3, Crash
These games are shit so I have no opinion

>> No.6317789

>>6317193
So basically you can't describe what's different between them.

>>6317292
It's a Sega Saturn modified to run in a JAMMA arcade cabinet. Just compare the hardware, it's identical.

>> No.6317825

>>6317214
Man you're a disappointment.

>> No.6318234

>>6317639
Imagine thinking anyone on /vr/ was a man let alone an old one

>> No.6318261

>>6316552
t. Filthy casual who never owned a Sega Saturn

>> No.6318324

>>6318261
Usually what it comes down to. I can't take anyone who shits on the Saturn seriously. He's probably basing his judgement on an PC emulator and blog articles.

>> No.6318331

No Darkstalkers? trash list.

>> No.6318339

>>6317789
>So basically you can't describe what's different between them.
I can, but after you get BTFO you'll move the goalposts and claim that because the hardware isn't different "ENOUGH" for you, it doesn't count and they really do have identical hardware, even though they don't.
So which is it, is the hardware exactly the same or is it different (but maybe not "radically different" enough to meet your standards)?
If you are claiming the Saturn and ST-V hardware is identical you're about to get BTFO and embarrass yourself even more than you already have in this thread.

>> No.6318349

inb4 someone says Nights

Nights sucked ass.

>> No.6318374

>>6318349
So does your face.

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>>6318349

>> No.6318531

>>6316763
>ST-V Titan is to Saturn as the MVS is to the AES.
In that retarded zoomers regularly claim they're the same thing this is true
>the MVS
Which "the" are you talking about kiddo?

>> No.6318726

>>6316552
Cotton 2.

>> No.6318802

>>6316552
just play sega ones plus capcom ones plus the ones that are also on psx.

>> No.6319073

>>6318726
That's an arcade game.
Are we counting ports as console games now, if the console's library is weak enough?
I guess In the Hunt counts as a PS1 game now.

>> No.6319080

>>6318339
Ok, here's your goalposts. Prove that the ST-V Titan board is not simply Sega Saturn hardware that has been modified to operate in a JAMMA Arcade Cabinet. Any differences that fall into the category of "Modifications to run in a JAMMA Arcade cabinet" don't count as being different hardware. This includes BIOS changes and security lockout changes as that's part of being modified to run in an arcade environment.

"It uses cartridges" doesn't count either. The Saturn can run games off of cartridges as well. Sega simply forbid developers from doing it as it can bypass the copy protection.

In short, what is different about the hardware actually involved with running the game? So the CPUs, the VDPs, The SCU, The DSP, the M68EC000, the SCSP, and the RAM.

>>6318531
Ok what's different about them other than one being in an Arcade Cabinet with the ability to switch between cartridges?

>> No.6319085

>>6319073
>Are we counting ports as console games now,
yes

>> No.6319118

>>6319080
>Ok, here's your goalposts. Prove that the ST-V Titan board is not simply Sega Saturn hardware that has been modified to operate in a JAMMA Arcade Cabinet. Any differences that fall into the category of "Modifications to run in a JAMMA Arcade cabinet" don't count as being different hardware. This includes BIOS changes and security lockout changes as that's part of being modified to run in an arcade environment.
>In short, what is different about the hardware actually involved with running the game? So the CPUs, the VDPs, The SCU, The DSP, the M68EC000, the SCSP, and the RAM.
For one, the Titan sound subsystem has more memory than the Saturn and you just got BTFO. Stupid fucking faggot.

>> No.6319129

>>6319118
>For one, the Titan sound subsystem has more memory than the Saturn and you just got BTFO. Stupid fucking faggot.

You're thinking of the NAOMI.

Both Saturn and the ST-V Titan have 512KB of Sound RAM.

>> No.6319136

>>6319129
Wrong, reddit-spacer.
There are multiple differences between the Titan and the Saturn, and multiple differences between NAOMI and Dreamcast.
Answer me this Saturn-autist:
Is Goove on Fight on Saturn as good as it's ST-V Titan original release?
Or does it have worse animations and backgrounds?
What's it feel like to defend 25 year old things and get humiliated because you've been wrong the whole entire time?
You just got BTFO.

>> No.6319156 [DELETED] 

>>6319136
Ok, how much more Audio RAM does the ST-V Titan have than the Saturn?

>Is Goove on Fight on Saturn as good as it's ST-V Titan original release?
Or does it have worse animations and backgrounds?

That has to do with going from a ROM cartridge to a CD-ROM system. If the Saturn version was released on a cartridge or with a bigger RAM cart it would have been arcade perfect. But again, Sega forbid developers from releasing Saturn games on cartridges.

>> No.6319163

>>6319136
Ok, how much more Audio RAM does the ST-V Titan have than the Saturn?

>Is Goove on Fight on Saturn as good as it's ST-V Titan original release? Or does it have worse animations and backgrounds?

That has to do with going from a ROM cartridge to a CD-ROM system. If the Saturn version was released on a cartridge or with a bigger RAM cart it would have been arcade perfect. But again, Sega forbid developers from releasing Saturn games on cartridges.

>> No.6319230

>>6319163
>That has to do with me coping
>Here's reasons why you're right but for some reason I'm still trying to save face and ask for spoonfeeding

>> No.6319237

>>6319230
I clearly said "It uses cartridges" didn't count when I stated what your goalposts were. It's not my fault you missed them.

>> No.6319238

>>6318349
It's my favorite video game

>> No.6319276

>>6318331
It's under 'Night Warriors'. That naming scheme was so dumb.

>> No.6319281

>>6319237
>"It uses cartridges" doesn't count either. The Saturn can run games off of cartridges as well. Sega simply forbid developers from doing it as it can bypass the copy protection.
Wrong.
The 4mb cartridge for the Saturn literally hadn't been invented yet, thus some of the inferior ports like Groove on Fight.
You are completely wrong and this had nothign to do with
>Sega simply forbid developers from doing it as it can bypass the copy protection.
It had solely to do with the fact that the Saturn hardware was to weak compared to the ST-V and Sega hadn't developed a workaround yet.
>You're right that they're different but X reason doesn't count because I need to make special goalposts in order for this conversation to fit in my narrative and to feel like I won an argument
Holy cope, you Sega retards are really unbelievable.
Let me guess, you belong to a flat earth conspiracy group as well? I hope you do what Mike Hughes did.

>> No.6319303

>>6319281
>The 4mb cartridge for the Saturn literally hadn't been invented yet, thus some of the inferior ports like Groove on Fight

True, but with a bigger RAM cart it could have been achieved. Not only that, releasing the entire game on a ROM cart would have solved the problem too, but Sega didn't allow that.

>It had solely to do with the fact that the Saturn hardware was to weak compared to the ST-V and Sega hadn't developed a workaround yet.

No, it's because one is running off a ROM cart and can just read data off the cartridge, where as the other had to load things into RAM off the disc. That's it. It's not that the Saturn is weaker than the ST-V Titan, the hardware is identical. All that's different here is the storage medium.

The Saturn is perfectly capable of running games from a cartridge just like the ST-V Titan. Sega simply didn't allow developers to do it. The process of booting a cartridge game is detailed in this document:

http://antime.kapsi.fi/sega/files/ST-079B-R3-011895.pdf

As you can see, booting a cartridge completely bypasses the normal boot screen sequence where the security check happens.

This manual here details using a set up like King of Fighters 95:
http://antime.kapsi.fi/sega/files/ST-TECH-46.pdf

It clearly states that Program Code is forbidden to exist on Cartridges as it creates a security hole.

Cry all you want, but it's not my fault you couldn't stick to some very simple criteria I gave you.

>> No.6319324

>>6316552
So you never played vf2, fighters megamix, darkstalkers and marvel fighter

>> No.6319326

>>6319080
>Ok, here's your goalposts. Moved as predicted
lol. Tell me more about how your personal definitions mean anything to anyone other than you and the voices in your head?

>them
What "them" are you referring to sport? Them MVSs that are different from each other and different from the AES? And what do you even mean by "the ability to switch between cartridges?" We don't all live in that empty echo chamber that is you noggin. You're going to have to use your words to let us know what's going on in there.

>> No.6319357

>>6319326
What goalposts did I move?

>What "them"

What's different between the AES hardware and the MVS hardware other than security lockouts to keep the games from being played both systems?

Does the MVS hardware have differences with it's CPU? Sound Hardware? Graphics Hardware? How much RAM it has? What's different other than the environment it's intended to be running in (Arcade Cabinet vs Home)?

>> No.6319369

>>6318324
Exactly.

>> No.6319482

>>6319303
>you couldn't stick to some very simple criteria
The only criteria was, is the ST-V hardware identical to the Saturn, or not?
Were the ports arcade perfect?
You were wrong, got BTFO, and couldn't stick to the criteria.
Face it and take the L.

>> No.6319505 [DELETED] 

>>6319482
Now who's moving goal posts?

>> No.6319516

>>6319482
No, I gave you some goal posts and didn't move them. You just missed them. They were defined clearly here:

>>6319080
1) Prove that the ST-V Titan board is not simply Sega Saturn hardware that has been modified to operate in a JAMMA Arcade Cabinet.
2) Any differences that fall into the category of "Modifications to run in a JAMMA Arcade cabinet" don't count as being different hardware. This includes BIOS changes and security lockout changes as that's part of being modified to run in an arcade environment.
3) "It uses cartridges" doesn't count either as the Saturn is capable of running from a cartridge as well.

That was your criteria. And you couldn't stick to it. First you claimed it had more Audio RAM. It doesn't, that's the NAOMI. You failed to back that up with any evidence. After failing there, you resorted back to "But cartridges!" by bringing up a game that only has cut animations due to going from a Cartridge to a CD. It has nothing to do with the Saturn being weaker, it simply has to do with what medium it's released on.

Clearly you had no idea the Saturn can run games from Cartridges as well. The official documentation proves the Saturn can boot games from a cartridge just like the ST-V Titan. Sega just didn't allow developers to publish games on Cartridges due to piracy concerns.

Simply put, you were wrong on this one and you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.6319532

It's safe to say this thread has proven the Saturn is the best 5th generation console, capable of generating the most enthusiasm, discussion, with the widest variety of games and basically universal adoration so great that it has attracted dedicated autists to whinge about it.

>> No.6319538

I'm sorry, but no retro game is that good.

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>>6319532
>with the widest variety of games and basically universal adoration

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>>6319545
mad 64fag detected, go back to your bing bing wahooies

>> No.6319561 [DELETED] 

>>6319552
Shitty animu game: check, PVM: check, Saturnfaggotry: check. Yep, it's tranny time.

>> No.6319563

>>6319538
This guy gets it.

>> No.6319569

>Policenauts
>Radiant Silvergun
>Shining Force III
>Sonic R

>>6317753
>Resident Evil 2/3 (only good ports are on the GC)
The SourceNext versions are much better as they have DVD-quality FMVs and through some hoops, you can even play it on a CRT with 240p or 480p (to take advantage of the better-quality FMVs).
Plus, the colour depth is much better than on the PS1 and Dreamcast.

>> No.6319570

>>6319516
>that's the NAOMI
Wrong. But it was also true with the NAOMI.
>spoonfeed me more
>i looked on wikipedia and don't understand anything so explain
>here's some numbers and i don't know what they mean
>here's more goalposts too even though i'm still wrong even when i add them
Top kek kid. Keep playing those inferior ports and crying about it.

>> No.6319579

>>6319570
>Wrong. But it was also true with the NAOMI.

Ok, how much Audio RAM does it have then?

Your the one claiming something different than what every other source out there says, including the official documentation. The burden of proof is on you.

>> No.6319580

>>6319552
scanlines don't look good up close to be honest

>> No.6319585

>>6319579
>I don't understand terminology or the difference between various subcomponents of hardware
You're embarrassing yourself. Enough spoonfeeding for babby for one day.
And I'll just leave this here.
>EDGE23, August 1995
>Edge: So Titan is more powerful than Saturn? Is it also more powerful than Model 2?
>Yu Suzuki: Yes, the system's more powerful than Saturn

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>>6319561
>Yep, it's tranny time.
dunno why you'd announce what porn you're looking at.

>>6319580
I think they look nice.

>> No.6319598

Leave it to /vr/ to bicker for hundreds of posts over the specifics of hardware, the audio hookups, controller designs and other random bs while barely talking about actual games at all. Things that make you go hmmmm...

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Nights would like to have a word with you. seriously, this game is soul incarnate.

>> No.6319610

>>6319605
It's too deep for most, few really figure out how to really play it. It's an excellent game.

>> No.6319615

>>6319610
>flying through rings is deep

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>>6319615
too deep for you clearly, stick to the n64 ;)

>> No.6319619

>>6319615
you just admitted you really don't understand why Nights was so good