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How come a Saturn launch title from 1994 plays better than a 2020 remake? This isn't even me nitpicking the remake feels so unbelievably sluggish and obtuse by comparison.

>> No.6305020

>>6305007
Please be more specific. I wish to play it when it comes to pc. There is a patch coming soon that will affect controls.

>> No.6305057
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>>6305020
Dodging projectiles to me feels a lot more difficult than in the original, almost like they have bigger hitboxes or something. The controls REALLY drag, and while I haven't experienced anything as drastic as this webm again, they remain more sluggish than I'd like. The camera feels even more restrictive than the original game's. The graphics and presentation generally come across rather amateurish, and the entire thing feels really unpolished.

>> No.6305072

>>6305057
Thank you. I was playing the original game this week that is included in Panzer Dragoon Orta. I am hopeful that the team working on the Remake will address the control issues like they promise.

My biggest hope for the remake is that the enemies will be easier to see. Maybe I am just a blind retard, but I have trouble seeing a lot of the enemies and obstacles in the original game. But I can see them a little better now that I have a flat screen tv.

>> No.6305168

It's not that bad, but it is extremely hard. Seems to kick my ass even harder than the original once I get to level 4

>> No.6305173

soulless

not the game, you

>> No.6305194

>>6305057
Does the problem persist when the switch is connected to a charger/dock?

>> No.6305305

>>6305194
Seems to be lessened.

>> No.6305319

>>6305305
The switch reduces CPU usage when unplugged to conserve battery power. Does it say what engine the game uses when booting? Maybe Unity?

>> No.6305359

It's a shame this remake doesn't look to be that great and was rushed out the door. I didn't have much interest to begin with since I'm fine with the originals, but after this wave of highly marketed remake collections, I was hoping it'd be a nice alternate take on it. I would have loved a port to be included with it, at least.
And am I remembering wrong, or was this initially announced as a collection of both 1 and 2 rather than releasing them separately?

>> No.6305428

>>6305359
>am I remembering wrong, or was this initially announced as a collection of both 1 and 2 rather than releasing them separately?

It would have been awesome, but nah, it was never mentioned as part of a collection.

>> No.6305439

Doesn't it seem like the Switch release is a way for the developers to have free beta testers? And that the first game is being used as a beta test for the second game?

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do.

>> No.6305505

That's the difference between Sega making something in-house with their A-team on proprietary hardware and an outsourced game made with rental software

I'll still get it on PC since there will surely be fixes and mods for it

>> No.6305601

>>6305319
I'm probably completely wrong but it looks like something running on UE4. It just kind of has that look UE4 games have in terms of environments.

>> No.6305639

>>6305505
consooom

>> No.6305839

>can talk about 2020-remakes
>can't talk about 2000-games

>> No.6305960

>>6305057
Modern controls has better aiming, I'm not sure why. No issues with locking on when using it. Devs are working on an update patch, go bitch at them on twitter. Though it seems they are already aware of this.

>> No.6306086

>>6305839
>>6305007
Can’t Retro fag just played it already!

>> No.6306125

>>6305072
>>6305072
>>6305072

The one included on Panzer Dragoon Orta is a port of the ps2 version you dolt.

>> No.6306127

>>6305007
Because you play the Saturn original on your 72" TV with the best controller ever designed while the other is a fucking Switch exclusive.

>> No.6306129

>>6305007
because it was a low effort cash grab like most remakes are

>> No.6306137

>>6305007
You have to understand that Panzer Dragoon was designed specifically for the Sega Saturn's hardware, even if it was a bitch to develop games for the thing. A lot of the graphical techniques are difficult to replicate on ports because they weren't built from the ground-up as opposed to the original two (excluding the RPG title). Even recent ports of Panzer Dragoon have not been done well, the playstation 2 and PC ports come to mind as having serious visual as well as performance problems. The hardware on the saturn performed a lot of visual tricks to get things to look the way they did, and in most areas the Saturn original still plays and looks better than any port has.

>> No.6306141

>>6305020
Its already on PC dingus. Years ago.

>> No.6306146

>>6305007
"Just throw it into Unity, put some better textures in there and call it a day."

Welcome to remakes.

>> No.6307545
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this was the original graphical intention btw, before anyone claims hardware limitations were what limited it.

>> No.6307572

>>6305007
>How come a Saturn launch title from 1994 plays better than a 2020 remake?
you make it sound like games from 2020 are generally better than games from 1994, I mean really how is this any kind of surprise at all

>> No.6307721

>>6305639
If Sega sees dollar signs with the Saturn era they might be assed to bankroll some halfway decent emulation /ports like they do with genesis

>> No.6308060

>>6305007
Just buy Orta and play the original through Pandora's Box on Xbox 1X 4k

>> No.6309350

Give me some good Saturn games in exchange for bumping this thread, I want to see how well Yaba Sanshiro runs

>> No.6309740

>>6305007
does it include the original saturn version in the new one?

>> No.6310623

I just got a saturn. What's the best sonic game?

>> No.6310641

>>6309740
No, wouldve been nice...

>> No.6310728

The remake got an update yesterday that adds re-arranged music by Saori Kobayashi. If you like the sound of Panzer Orta, give it a listen, it's pretty cool.

>> No.6310982

>>6310623
R

>> No.6310990

>>6307545
Saturn captured it pretty well. I really hate what Forever Entertainment did to the stages, no more endless forest canopy, now it's a puke colored valley. No more endless oceans with the very tips of sunken cities sticking out, now it's a mess of islands and noise. I think it's obvious they were trying to show that the Saturn can do this endless environments and it set the tone very well for the first stage.

>> No.6311024

>>6310623
It's widely regarded 1-3 and knuckles are the best but a lot of people have fondness for adventure 1 and 2. A lot of people also like Mania. My personal favorite would probably be 2 for the creative design but I'm not a big Sanic fan, 2 just has a lot of cool looking levels and music. All the genesis games are pretty good for that, aside from 3D blast. Spinball is pretty cool too but if you're expecting a good Sonic or pinball you'll be disappointed, still fun.