/crt/ general

[Anonymous No.6303636]

post CRTs running /vr/

[Anonymous No.6304069]

ok

[Anonymous No.6304257]

I like my pvmeme when I'm playing games on it but they look so "my most-played game is 240p Test Suite" in photos

[Ąn̡͢ony̢̛m҉o͘͜͝u͏s No.6304267]

>>6304069
ʎnos makes ok TVs.
>>6304257
COME-FEE! :)

[An̵͜ònỳ̷̶͜mơ͡ús No.6304278]

>>6304267
best size for a crt 20 ? 14?

[A̡n͘oņ̵̸́ymo̷͢͢͠us No.6304294]

>>6304278
27" right on down to 13" because they're not the monstrous and back-breaking 32", 35", and 36" ones.
If I had to pick just one, I'd go with 13" since it can be taken anywhere fast.

[Anonymous No.6304303]

[A͢nony̡̛̕m̴̢̧͡ouś̸ No.6304319]

[Ą͟nǫn͞y̸͜mou̷ś̶̀ No.6304324]

>>6304278
42"

[Anonymous No.6304458]

>>6303636
That's a gorgeous Toshiba.

[A̵n͏on͘͟ym̧o̷u̶̕ś͘ No.6304480]

>/CRT/ General
Fuck, did we really not already have one? Are those not as much of a thing any more? I remember they used to be some of the hottest threads.

[A͘nonymou͠s No.6304490]

>>6304278
27” IMO. I’ve done the PVM thing, I’ve had the C64 1702. And I’ve had a 39” with almost no warped geometry. 27” is small enough to move around when needed. Can use a normal TV stand. And is a very comfortable size. I have a 27” Trinitron Wega and it’s quite enjoyable

[Anonymous No.6305078]

Found a listing for this guy, does anybody know what model that is?
It's the only picture in that listing.
The only info given by the seller is that it's a Philips crt.
I can't find anything after diggin through the net for a few hours.

[Anonymous No.6305150]

>>6305078
I'd buy that in a second, those types of consumer sets are so aesthetically pleasing.

[A͘͡no̡ny͞m͝o̸̕u͢s No.6305171]

>>6303636

[An͏̧͘o̵̵nym͢ou̴͟s No.6305186]

>>6305078
Whatever it is, just get it. The logo and buttons on the front suggest it is a color video monitor and it's going to have an excellent image whether it has RGB or not.

I'm inclined to think it's not a Philips CRT. Doesn't look like one I've ever seen. Looks much more like Panasonic, RCA, Mitsubishi stuff.

[Anonymous No.6305190]

>>6305186
God I wish that were me

[Aņó͠ny̶m̶ou͞s̶̛ No.6305214]

>>6305186
>I'm inclined to think it's not a Philips CRT
forget that, it is a philips. The BRG logo is Philips.

[An͢ǫ̡͠nym̷o͞us No.6305243]

Show me some 90s tvs.

[Anonymous No.6305271]

[Anonymous No.6305314]

[Anonymous No.6305367]

I couldn't find a good place to post this and I didn't want to waste a new slot, so here: http://androidarts.com/ .

[Anonymous No.6305420]

[Anonymous No.6305441]

>>6305214
>pic
An RGB mod done to a television like that with the wood cabinet, curved shadow mask, and fully exposed tube face would be god-tier.

As I have said before: it's a matter of time before PVMs and BVMs go out of fashion because users will start to realize

1. games don't actually look better on them in many cases
2. they are usually small
3. they don't look very stylish in your game room

I am pretty sure on some of these older televisions you could also completely remove the CRT and replace it with a tube of the appropriate size, run the adjustment pots to the relevant knobs on the front, and do a total conversion in the way one might do with arcade cabinet. It would be a bit of a job but it would look so much nicer in the game room.

[Anonymous No.6305446]

>>6305441
More examples
https://www.oldtechnology.net/colour3.html

[A͠n̷o͜n̨͢ym̵̀o̸̡͘us No.6305460]

>>6304278
Depends. The dirty little secret is that if you're sitting at a normal TV viewing distance, maybe ~8 feet, you won't even be able to see the mask, and the set will, at best, be largely indistinguishable from a shader. This is why so many hardware collectors end up taking the upscaler route.

If you're able to fit a CRT on your desk with the rest of your setup and are playing on it up close, you can not only get away with a smaller set, but can still make out the mask, and will have an image that can't properly be replicated with shaders.

[Anonymous No.6305512]

OSSC + low latency monitor BTFOs your shitty composite only tubes.

[Anonymous No.6305514]

>all those retards selling and buying HDCRTs without realizing that they're literally the worst of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.6305526]

>>6305514
>he doesn't have a hdcrt for newer consoles and movies/tv
give it a few years, people will realise how good they are.

[Anonymous No.6305530]

>>6305526
>input lag for older games, blurry as fuck for newer consoles
nah you're retarded

[Anonymous No.6305536]

>>6305514
pseud post

[Anonymous No.6305540]

>>6305530
double pseud post

[Anonymous No.6305543]

>>6305536
>>6305540
>buyers remorse: the post

[Anonymous No.6305546]

>>6305543
stay pseud

[Anonymous No.6305561]

>>6305530
>input lag for older games
you can have more than one telly sweaty
>blurry as fuck for newer consoles
720p is crisp on a hdcrt, I don't think you've ever seen one.

[Anonymous No.6305567]

>>6305561
>720p is crisp on a hdcrt
no it's really not.
15khz can do 480p at the very most without looking like blurry shit

[Anonymous No.6305592]

>>6305449
Favorite is miracle world but how do you get the nuclear sign?

[Anonymous No.6305594]

>>6305567
>15khz can do 480p

[Anony̸̧m҉̶͜ơ̸ú͘s͘ No.6305605]

[Anonymous No.6305607]

>>6305594
By way, I do know it is possible to display 480p via 15 khz modeline... in 30hz. If you could ever find a CRT that would sync to it and you could live with the horrific flickering.

[Anonymous No.6305628]

>>6305561
For the best output with most CRT HDTVs you want to use either 480p/540p or 960i/1080i. You'd use test patterns to determine the resolution of your television.

There were no HDTV CRTs that supported native 720p afaik (but I would like to be proven wrong). So that's always going to be scaled to 960i/1080i before displaying, resulting in a loss of sharpness.

If you determine that your television is a 540p/1080i model there are ways to either generate a native 540p game image or you can letterbox+pillarbox the image slightly to get native 480p anyway. If it's on a 36" television that's still going to be a huge image.

Above all: you need to use a computer with these things. Just connecting up your old consoles is not going to get a good result Sometimes not even with PS3/360/Wii era stuff, you'd still be better off emulating there for the best picture quality. I'd say Wii games in 1080i on a CRT look awesome, although I've not had the opportunity to see it.

[Anonymous No.6305635]

Can someone help a normalfag to crts here? Hunting for a pvm now, do I need to go with a scart connection for a pvm or is s video fine? I currently use s video on my current crt and the picture seems fine. I know scart is technically better I'm not sure if I want to go order cables for all my consoles now, as well as a $40 adapter since I'm a burger.

[Anonymous No.6305654]

>>6305635
What model is the television you're using now?

[Anonymous No.6305678]

>KV-20FV300

[Anonymous No.6305682]

>>6305628
I do hook it up to my pc and do it that way, but when I'm playing ps3 or switch it seems to scale them fine honestly, look good to me. I use a 20" daewoo for ps2 and before, the hd is more for modern stuff and emulators.

[Anonymous No.6305693]

>>6303636
Only CRT I still have
Yes that is a VHS player on the bottom
CRT's are fucking shit BTW

[Anonymous No.6305703]

>>6305693
God fucking dammit

[Anonymous No.6305713]

>>6305635

The jump from composite to S-Video on a decent consumer CRT is far greater than the jump from S-Video to SCART. Just be aware of diminishing returns.

[Anonymous No.6305734]

>>6305682
>it seems to scale them fine honestly, look good to me
I would do the same thing tbqh. Scaling isn't evil and when it comes to PS3/360 emulation I'm still going to use the original systems every time right now.

Would you be willing to photograph your HDTV running some shaders?

[Anonymous No.6305782]

>>6303636
One of those just sold on ebay for $330 including shipping.
We're at the point now where just walking past old televisions because they don't suit our interests is throwing away money.

[Anonymous No.6305805]

>>6305782
>$330
WTF
I bet I can find one for free still.

[Anonymous No.6305828]

>>6305605
>all those 26-35" grey yuckboxes

[Anonymous No.6305840]

>>6305782
Because it's a beautiful television?
For every one of those there's 1000...2000? of things like >>6305605 waiting for a hammer and/or cat urine

[An͜on͘ym̡òù̴̡s̨͡͡ No.6305919]

My 160lb beauty.

[Anonymous No.6306009]

>>6305832
Should've posted Treasure's logo. Sonyfags and Nintenkiddos get trash like Mischief Makers and Rakugaki Showtime whilst Segachads get Alien fucking Soldier, Radiant fucking Silvergun, Gunstar fucking Heroes, and Ikaruga.

[Anonymous No.6306010]

>>6305805
I bet you can't. Not a Toshiba Blackstripe like that.

[Anonymous No.6306048]

fuck living in the rural south. the only sets I can find within an hour drive are shitty RCA, sylviana, emerson, etc. all the good shit is 3+hours drive to get.

[Á̢͝n̷̢o҉̴͞nymò̴us No.6306056]

Going to an electronics recycle depo tomorrow to look for crts/pvms, anything to look out for when deciding if I should grab a monitor?

[Anonymous No.6306064]

>>6306048
Try settling for those until you can find something nicer. I had an RCA TruFlat for about half a year before finding a nicer Trinitron. The TruFlat had horrible geometry, but I never noticed until I had a comparison.

[Anonymous No.6306083]

>>6305805
Look well, and you should.

[Anonymous No.6306091]

In the last thread anon mentioned his 13" Panasonic video monitor had a dot pitch of 0.28mm
I have a 19" PC CRT monitor with a 0.28mm dot pitch.
If I create a 13" window on my 19" monitor that window will still have a dot pitch of 0.28mm. But if I play game in that window then the virtual TVL will have increased.

If I then run a scanline shader with all effects turned off except pure scanline generation, and then create a high resolution window, either through physical monitor raster size adjustment, or through software then the end result should be similar to anon's Panasonic.

Does that sound right?

[Anonymous No.6306138]

While I may own a Japanese television, and may be playing an anime game, I am most certainly not a weeb. I s w e a r.

[Anonymous No.6306142]

>>6306138
Let me fucking namefag.

[A̸͞n̨ǫ͢͝nym͘͘oús̛ No.6306143]

>>6306142
Fuck you cuck.

[Anonymous No.6306157]

>Dillweed

>>6306143
Nah, I'm good.

[Anonymous No.6306169]

>>6305703
you play any good tapes lately

[Anonymous No.6306229]

>>6306064
I have a 27 inch Panasonic with svideo. Not bad but it has minor geometry issues. My goal is to find one with component input and good build quality/condition.

[Ánón͟ymo̧͘u̴҉͏s͟͞ No.6306252]

>>6306010
Why not?

[Anonymous No.6306298]

>>6306252
They're just not that common.

[A͝n̨͟o̶n̨y̸mò̴̡us͢ No.6306336]

>>6305703
>mgr thingie.

Based

[Anonymous No.6306476]

>>6305919
I have the same TV. It's 85 pounds.
Lift more.

[Anonymous No.6306506]

What model is this again? I've seen it before

I need to know because I'm writing a fanfiction about Josuke going out and buying component cables to play OH! That's A Baseball! 64 in the highest-quality color like a true patricia

[Anonymous No.6306517]

>>6306138
Nice r@re setup.

[Anonymous No.6306654]

>>6305635
>Scart
>PVM
You don't understand how RGB or PVM works. Native Scart will be present in very small % of models.
And you don't even need native Scart, you need RGB as 4BNC connectors and to that you would connect Scart-adapter.

Search for whatever PVM you can get with just RGB/Component (component will get you access to PSP btw). As for breakout cable you can buy it from RGC, eBay, somewhere else or just make it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6306703]

>>6305367
If you are Arne, I just want to let you know I like your site.

[Anonymous No.6306712]

>>6306056
Yeah, 99% of the time , if pvms or monitors are given for recycle, they don’t work. So if you are handy with electronics you are good to go

[Anonymous No.6307102]

>>6306506
Looks similar to a PVM 2*30

[Anonymous No.6307146]

>>6303636
https://streamable.com/ymp9p1

[Anonymous No.6307173]

>>6306476
Nope. She's 32" and 160lbs.

[Anonymous No.6307221]

>>6307173
>She's 32" and 160lbs.
You might not like it ladies, but this is what peak performance looks like.

[Anonymous No.6307230]

[Anonymous No.6307434]

>>6307230
Is this how microsoft intended windows 98 to be used?

[Anonymous No.6307438]

>>6306056

Look for some late-model Trinitrons, you can recognize them by their flat screen and silver color. If they don't work they more than likely need a simple capacitor replacement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA..

[Anonymous No.6307445]

>>6306476

>Prime example of why you take posts on vr with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.6307470]

Tandy CM-11 RGB monitor

[Anonymous No.6307601]

Where JVC PVMs rebadged Sony PVMs just like Olympus? Seems to be the most common brand of PVM here.

[Anonymous No.6307613]

Sorry about the Wii ruining the aesthetic, was playing around with emulators on it.

[Anonymous No.6307620]

>>6306703
I found it through www.wiby.me, a search engine for old-styled websites.

[Anonymous No.6307624]

>>6307601
JVC never used Sony tubes, they used mitsubishi (both shadow and aperture grille), philips, panasonic tubes. This is at least for their 90s-00s sets. Can't speak for before then but I imagine it was also brands like panasonic.

[Anonymous No.6307629]

>>6307624
When did the aparture grille patent expire so that other manufacturers started to make them too? Mitsubishi's Diamondtron tubes were great.

[Anonymous No.6307634]

>>6307629
96 iirc, mitsubishi was the only other major producer of them but there may have been others. I think JVC did experiments with unreleased tubes behind the scenes. If it's an AG tube but not Sony, it's Mitsubishi Diamondtron which are usually fucking phenomenal and often better than Sony ones, at least on a small electronics level such as some iconic Lacie monitors or the JVC DTV CRTs. Not all flat tubes are diamondtrons.

[Anonymous No.6307664]

[Anonymous No.6307694]

>>6307634
There's an anon that goes around talking about how great Lacie monitors are.
Are those using Sony tubes?

[Anonymous No.6307718]

My CRT won’t show he colour red anymore. Should I just replace it or try to fix it? There’s a place near me that still fixes them apparently

[Anonymous No.6307727]

>>6307718
whats the model number

[Anonymous No.6307731]

My PVM started to lose sync in RGBS when the screen filled with white (but fine with component input). What might be wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.6307732]

>>6305420
Lookin good, I'm actually waiting for component cables for my PSP 2000 to come in the mail right now. Got any tips/things to look out for?

On a related note, I've been doing some research into playing with an external controller on PSPs other than the GO. I know it's possible to connect a controller to the 1000/2000/3000 using certain PC software and connecting both the PSP and the controller to the computer via USB. I might be able to figure out exactly what input format the PSP can be made to respond to, and use a spare microcontroller I've got laying around to make my own controller converter for it.

[Anonymous No.6307738]

Am I really the only one who thinks idolizing shitty CRT is the dumbest fucking thing ever?
My god you people are retarded.

[Anonymous No.6307740]

>>6307738
Yes, you're officially retarded.

[Anonymous No.6307741]

>>6307664
what is it?

[Anonymous No.6307743]

>>6307738
You mean you dont understand why people like old outdated technology on the retro video games board? Woah

[Anonymous No.6307746]

>>6307727
Sony trinitron KV-X2182U

[Anonymous No.6307747]

>>6307740
>>6307743
Don't feed the troll.

[Anonymous No.6307748]

>>6307746
1. is red is broken on every input, including the OSD?
2. if you wiggle the cable does red reappear?
3. if you gently tap the CRT does red reappear?

[Anonymous No.6307759]

>>6307741
The game or the TV? Game is Monster World IV. TV is this one:
>>6307613

[Anonymous No.6307762]

>>6303636
Found this 15" Toshiba model on craigslist for 15 bucks, and it seems like it might work well enough for me. I can't find what model it is online, though, and I want to know what connections it has on the back before I go out and get it because I fuckin' hate interacting with people on craigslist if I don't have too. Anyone here know the model or could tell me how to find it?

[Anonymous No.6307768]

>>6307748
I will check and get back to you thanks man

[Anonymous No.6307780]

>>6307740
No u
>>6307743
Probably because they are retarded.

[Anonymous No.6307797]

>>6307748
Ok this is strange.
It was broken on every input, even the OSD. I only have SCART cables to be fair. I would wiggle the cable and tap the tv and have done so many times and nothing. But now the OSD IS showing red again, but I don’t get any picture but a little line at the top.

[Anonymous No.6307820]

>>6307173
>>6305919
Nice man. I'm staying with my parents during the COVID and I'm quite enjoying my old 36" Trinitron, very nice after years of playing on a 9" JVC PVM most of the time. I thought it was around 180 lbs, but if your 32" is only 20 lbs less then the 36" might be heavier than I thought.

My mom keeps wanting to throw it away, but my dad laughs at her and says "okay, good luck getting it to the end of the driveway".

>>6307601
All JVCs I've seen are shadow masks, which means they are not Sony tubes. My smol JVC shares the chassis Ikegami monitors, but the guy who sold it to me said the tube was a Panasonic. Not sure how accurate that is.

>>6307727
I had an old Apple monitor that suddenly got a horrible reddish-green tint to everything because the blue electron gun died. There's a CRT guru in the city where I live, and he managed to fiddle with it to get the gun half back to life. But it's still timestamped.

[Anonymous No.6307856]

My PVM 20L2MD.

[Anonymous No.6307862]

>>6307797
Ok now it’s fine. Weir

[Anonymous No.6307909]

>>6307856
Honestly beautiful. How much did it cost you and where did you pick it up?

[Anonymous No.6308002]

>>6307909
I bought this before they became super popular, it was less than $100. I got it from a medical supply reseller, was part of an endoscopy rig. Guy was real cool, let me check out all the ones he had. Prob still a really good option if you're looking for one. Of all the uses for PVMs, medical ones are going to have the least amount of hours on them and going to be the best taken care of.

[Anonymous No.6308020]

>>6307820
Hah, you should offer to take it off their hands. While they lack component, these super heavy black Trinitrons are my favorite consumer sets. The quality of them is exceptional.

I scored my two for free off of Craigslist. Even with a friend helping, it was a huge pain in the ass getting them up the guy's stairs from his basement and out to my car.

[Anonymous No.6308090]

>>6307856
>>6308002
I remember someone on /a/ posting a white PVM like this years ago. It's what first alerted me to their existence. May have been you for all I know.

I later picked up an 8044Q at a yard sale for $20. The same sale had a couple of bigger ones for $40-$60 (the people owned some sort of video editing business). Unfortunately, at the time I already had 2 large CRT monitors (Viewsonic P815 and HP A7217A), and lived in an already small 880 sqft apartment that was made smaller with 3 people living in it (my roommate put up a combination of bookshelves and curtains to fashion a "3rd bedroom" out of the living room). Including common areas, we had about 290 sqft per person. So I rationalized not getting one of the big PVMs because I literally didn't have the space to use it. But in reality, I could have easily bought it, kept it somewhere for a couple weeks, and put it into storage at my parents' house. But I didn't get them. Of all the things I regret NOT doing in life, that definitely ranks in the top 3.

[Anonymous No.6308106]

>>6308090
Nah, wasn't me.

Yeah, if I could go back in time, I would have been picking them up left and right.

I really wish I would have picked up and NEC XM-29 or XP-29 back when they were still available. I keep an eye out for them but it's not even a matter of price anymore, you just can't find them for sale. It is my white whale.

[Anonymous No.6308114]

Finally got my first pvm, a Sony PVM 14N6U, anyone have experience with this particular model? I've found a few decent deals online for pvms online before but none of them had RGB inputs so I always passed.

[Anonymous No.6308224]

>>6307862
You've got a dry solder joint somewhere or a failing component on the chassis.

[Anonymous No.6308285]

>>6308020
I would, except my dad doesn't want to give it up. He uses it for his VHS movie collection, which is fucking massive. Even if he wanted to let it go, I wouldn't have space in my apartment. I normally live in a pretty tiny condo in the city, really only have room for one VGA monitor and one PVM. A couple years ago I picked up an HD-CRT and then gave it away 3 months afterwards. It was just way too big for my place.

It does lack component, however it has S-Video, which is also pretty nice. The level of improvement from composite to S-Video is massive. If anyone is looking for a large CRT, the JVC D-series and the big black Trinis both solid bets. You could probably find something that's better quality, but a lot of people are eager to get these things out of their house. When I picked up my HD-CRT, the people I got it from were so happy to be rid of it that they paid my friend and I $20 for getting it out of their basement. We ended up using the money towards beer and wings after it was in my apartment.

>>6308106
I have an NEC Multisync which I like quite a bit, but nothing like these. It seems to me that these things have always been rare. I can't remember where I saw it, but I came across an old forum post where everyone was calling it the "legendary" CRT and talking about how difficult it was to find.

[Anonymous No.6308296]

Just modified my Commodore 1942 to accept csync signals as well as RGBHV. (Used an EL1883).

[Anonymous No.6308304]

>>6307732
it worked out of the box but only for PS1 games since this TV dont have progressive scan(needed for psp games).

[Anonymous No.6308314]

>>6308114
It's what I'm using at the moment
I like that it has three different kinds of vertical linearity settings rather than just the single V LIN that my older model has

[Anonymous No.6308341]

Managed to snag this for $100 (and a "14 for $125, funny how I paid more for that one but ofc I got that first) back in 2016 when the PVM meme first blew up, glad I bought in when I did because I managed to snag a beauty on the cheap. This geometry is *perfect* on this thing

[Anonymous No.6308342]

>>6308341

Samefagging, but the only thing I don't have I wish I could've gotten my hands on was a proper Amiga monitor. I still hop on Craigslist once in a blue moon but I've basically given up at this point. Maybe...

[Anonymous No.6308343]

I'm getting more and more hard line on thinking any CRT under 25" is just a waste of time to be quite honest with you my families.

[Anonymous No.6308347]

>>6308343
Big CRTs aren't that comfy for bedrooms.

[Anonymous No.6308348]

>>6308343
I play at a desk most of the time desu, 20 inch is fine for me.

[Anonymous No.6308352]

>>6308347
I disagree. A 27" CRT is not that big and if you can't make room in your bedroom for one you're not really trying.

I had a 37", 19", and 25" CRT in my tiny bedroom in my tiny apartment back in college. Still didn't really feel crowded.

[Anonymous No.6308358]

>>6308348
I also play at a desk and dislike it even though my LCD monitor can display a 26" 4:3 image. I have a 19" CRT and it feels too small even when sitting only 3 feet away. I much prefer sitting on the sofa and playing from 6 feet away.

I used to own giant CRTs and miss them dearly. As soon as I can I'll get back to a 36" to 42" unit. 42" preferred.

[Anonymous No.6308407]

>>6308352
>I had a 37", 19", and 25" CRT in my tiny bedroom
But did you have anything else in your bedroom, christ.
>>6308358
Depends which games you play, anything pre-ps2 looks fine on a 20" to me, I've got a 32" HD-crt for things non-retro, it's all about the type of game/console.

[Anonymous No.6308424]

>>6308407
I had two dressers, my bed, and my PC. My backpack, books, and clothes were in the closet. As well I had various game systems and joysticks in that room.

I primarily play pre-ps2 games but I'm wanting to get into the ps2/gamecube/xbox era now, I have explored most of the pre-2000 games I want to play and there is a lot of stuff I missed back in 2000-2010 I want to get to. Part of the reason I want a 40" CRT HDTV.

[Anonymous No.6308431]

>>6308424
>I had two dressers, my bed, and my PC. My backpack, books, and clothes were in the closet. As well I had various game systems and joysticks in that room.
What you define as tiny comes into question here then, cause thats certainly not tiny if it can fit those
>wanting to get into ps2/gamecube/xbox era now
it's good stuff you've missed a lot, SDcrt would be fine for them but if you're looking into ps3/360 then a HDcrt would be a must I'd say, is for me anyway.

[Anonymous No.6308474]

It was worth the effort to mod this for csync; looks as good as my Panasonic set.

[Anonymous No.6308489]

>>6308474
Maybe better since it's not glossy.

[Anonymous No.6308506]

>>6308114
I"ve been using one for years, haven't had any problems. It's great.

[Anonymous No.6308507]

>>6308114
That should be RGB moddable if it has an OSD.
Just saying.

[Anonymous No.6308546]

>>6308431
It was about 8' by 8' and the closet.

[Anonymous No.6308554]

>>6308489
>>6308474
240p RGB on coarse pitch dot triads is the promised land. Only issue for me would be the size.

A while back on /vr/ someone made a post about some 25" data monitors that would probably have a very similar image to that and I told them to get those monitors right fucking now but I don't know if they listened. I bet not.

[Anonymous No.6308608]

>>6308474
For some reason, that reminded me of this

[Anonymous No.6308609]

>>6308608
God dammit

[Anonymous No.6308667]

>>6308224
Thanks I’ll look into it

[Anonymous No.6308673]

>>6308507
It does have RGB

[Anonymous No.6308674]

>>6307731
Is this RGBS csync or luma/composite as sync?

[Anonymous No.6308678]

>>6307732
Note if you wanna use it for PSP games you'd need a 3000 or Go, or a 480p capable display. And the games get seriously windowboxed anyway.

[Anonymous No.6308679]

>>6308314
>>6308506
Thanks, good to hear.
>>6308507
Never modded a tv before, I wouldn't dare fuck around wuth a crt.

[Anonymous No.6308680]

>>6304267
>ʎnos
dead

[Anonymous No.6308759]

>>6308407
>>6308352
>>6308343
I would rather have a good CRT that's 20" rather than a mediocre one that's 27". I have a Sony KV-27S42 which I salvaged from my grandfather's house after he died. While the set itself is not bad, good colour and geometry etc, the big letdown is the fact that it only has ONE set of RCA inputs and ONE S-video port. I have my N64 hooked up through S-video, but I hooked up my SNES through RF and it predictably looked like ass. When I look at people who have tiny 20" or even 14" PVMs, I get pretty jelly.

I recently found a very nice 32" JVC D-series that someone was giving away for free. Would have been a great set, 3x RCA jacks and 1x S-video port. But he panicked because of the Coronavirus (there is a grand total of two cases in my county, which has 110,000 people), took the ad down and told me not to come. I was pretty pissed off because I'd been looking for one of those locally for almost a year, here one came up and for free no less, and the boomer who owned lost his mind because of some little faggot virus.

[Anonymous No.6308787]

>>6308759
So you've not actually owned a PVM or other pro monitor?

I have. Lots of them. And I would rather have your KV-27S42 than any 20" PVM. The lack of RGB or Component is not bothersome because the s-video on that set will look so good if you feed it a quality signal. Which in my case I would do so via an RGB > S-video converter and a PC as video source. Along with using the composite input for systems that benefit from it.

If you go from your 27" consumer Trinitron to 20" PVM don't sell the Trini until you are dead sure you don't want it anymore. Because I bet you'll miss the screen real estate.

[Anonymous No.6308794]

>>6306654
In addition to this, you can get BNC cables for consoles nowadays. No need for SHART or adapters.

[Anonymous No.6308796]

>>6308787
Additional note:

That exact TV has been successfully RGB modded:
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=56155&start=256

[Anonymous No.6308852]

>>6308796
What game is that?

[Anonymous No.6308860]

>>6308852
Don't know.
Didn't know the image was going to be upside down either. It shows correctly on shmups and my image viewer, but not in windows photo viewer or 4chan. I suppose it has a flag set for rotation that 4chan doesn't recognize.

[Anonymous No.6308883]

are CRTs racist?

[Anonymous No.6308890]

>>6308787
For me, tube quality trumps size. I went from a 27 inch TV to a 20 inch BVM and I prefer the BVM for the simple fact that it has much better geometry. Only downside is lack of composite.

[Anonymous No.6308897]

>>6308890
In this case the tube quality of the KV-27S42 is very high.

[Anonymous No.6309054]

I seriously hope this idiotic PVM meme will fucking die.
Seeing scanlines and high quality is NOT the way it was back then or how the developers intended it to look like. Actually they even used techniques which made use of the blurry cunsomer CRTs to make games look better or effects which will only work THEN.

PVM users are the literal Uberhipsters.

[Anonymous No.6309059]

What are my best options for watching old shows on my PVM? Any good media player units that output SCART?

[Anonymous No.6309084]

>>6309054
>muh intendo tapes don't look gud on PVM!!!!

[Anonymous No.6309165]

>>6308674
I have access to composite and luma, no csync, and the same result on both. Picture on Wii with composite gets wracked on main menu. Saturn wrecks on boot. But only when white is majority of screen, right after it sync comes back to norm.

It was fine a few weeks ago, which I spent with component input, which is fine still. Only RGB is broken, and even if it is problem with caps I can't buy any in some future.

I got this PVM not so long ago and it was in not so hot condition anyway, and I guess, now it started to break.

[Anonymous No.6309169]

>>6308860
4chan strips all exif info from images on boards other than /p/
I heard it was for the purpose of removing GPS data

[Anonymous No.6309172]

>>6308852
looks like Star Ocean

[Anonymous No.6309179]

>>6309054
They look like arcade monitors, so I can understand people who grew up thinking of arcades as the ultimate best gravitating to them even for non-arcade games. Or if you're actually running arcade boards or Neogeo or such

[Anonymous No.6309180]

>>6309165
Try going through sync stripper if ya got something that'll do it, or rewire a cable for csync if ya can.

[Anonymous No.6309183]

>>6309054
Convenient RGB connections is probably a big draw for Americans since their normal TVs don't have that
They missed out on playing Japanese games the way the Japanese played them

[Anonymous No.6309213]

>>6309180
Unfortunately I don't have nor stripper, nor cables with csync. I could try to modify cable for Saturn, but I don't have components and its RGC-cable, I don't want to open it.

Actually, there's one more issue with monitor: sometime after its get warmed up, OSD would disappear. It can appear if I up some settings on Focus page from service-menu, but if I up them too much then monitor turns itself off.
I found sweet spot at first, but now it started to disappear again and I can't up anything more because it turns off.

I hope, its just some caps dying, but it has more than 180 in it, and I never even opened CRT before. It will be hard to do it first time.

[Anonymous No.6309218]

>>6308794
Who and where sale BNC cables straight to consoles? Some eBay guy?

[Anonymous No.6309234]

>>6309059
I use PS3 and Universal Media Server.
You can use and Scart, and Component.
Even shitty AMD laptop can transcode fast enough.

[Anonymous No.6309257]

>>6308679
Heh, okay.
It's not that big a deal though if you just don't ground your off-hand while digging around.

You know what's best for you though, can't totally blame you.
But if you've never modded a tv before, the only way to change that is to mod a tv.
>>6308787
Eh, I like my multiscan PVM. But for a normal non-multiscan one? Yeah, sure. 27" would look fine. I prefer tri-dot anyway.
>RGB -> S-video
You have terrible taste.
>>6308794
>No need for SCART
OK, I agree with you there.
>>6308796
Welcome to Australia
>>6309054
Ok, just calm down bro.
>>6309213
So you did turn on the 'external sync' button?
It sounds like your CRT has bigger problems; my first guess is power supply. The OSD is probably driven on something like 5 volts, but most of the CRT doesn't operate on low voltages like that. Definitely recap it if you can do it (or can have someone else do it).
Does it make a smell?

I doubt it's the lack of a sync stripper causing the problem, although that's possible.
I just drilled holes in my systems for RCA jacks for csync, but I totally understand why some people are reluctant to do that.
BTW on the PSX you can get H and V sync signals off the mainboard and then run them through a 74HC32/74LS32/7432 or similar IC (an OR gate) to get clean TTL csync. Not that it likely matters in your case, but if you have a SCPH-100x PSX with the RCA jacks you can just replace the composite video line with a csync line for testing.

[Anonymous No.6309261]

>>6309257
BTW on systems with a built in RF modulator, you could also just replace the RF modulator board with a csync RCA jack. Did that on my Super Famicom and my Mega Drive.

[Anonymous No.6309316]

[Anonymous No.6309464]

Don't mind me, just trying to pick up the slack this thread.

[Anonymous No.6309481]

>>6309464
What camera do you use to take pictures of your screen, people here before have said their mobiles but have never actually said how they did it without the screen going crazy, either flickering or in my case the colours messing around.

[Anonymous No.6309501]

>>6309481
I used my Pixel 2 XL for that pic, but sometimes I use a Nikon D40 (still).

I use an app called Open Camera, which is free/open source. In settings, allow it to use the camera2 API, and then you should be able to manually adjust exposure settings.

I tend to do 1/30 or 1/60 at ISO 200-400. Sometimes on my CCD sensor camera (Nikon D40) I need to go to 1/15 to avoid flickering (usually also necessitating a tripod). Lot easier to just use my phone because it's one time where you actually might want the rolling shutter effect.
Colors can be an issue, but I usually set mine to 6500°K white balance and it works out decently.

[Anonymous No.6309507]

>>6309501
Also, for the most flexibility, you can shoot in RAW. I usually don't, but it's a possibility and it can really make a shot look good when you take the time to process it correctly. You also have a lot more control over the sharpening algorithms and stuff, and can stop phosphors from getting blurred together sometimes.

(this is not a raw shot)

[Anonymous No.6309529]

>>6309507
This is an old raw shot of mine.
It's also a bit easier to get the correct colors (at least on my screen, which is "decent" but not professional-grade; Dell U2412M, calibrated).
Had to compress it quite a bit for 4chan though.

[Anonymous No.6309534]

>>6309529
Note: lens profiles and such for phone cameras are laughable so don't expect all the luxuries you get with a commonly-used DSLR.

[Anonymous No.6309540]

>>6309059
What model do you have that doesn't have s-video/composite?

[Anonymous No.6309541]

Should also note: maybe lightroom or similar has lens profiles for my phone. I don't use Windows or Mac OS unless forced at gunpoint, though, so I just have some manual corrections I've figured out to make it 'close enough' in darktable.

[Anonymous No.6309545]

>>6309054
Why the fuck do you care what people play their games on?

[Anonymous No.6309552]

>>6309545
My guess is he deep down kind of wants a PVM if only to see why they're so hyped in person, but hates the prices.

I wouldn't have any hope of getting one at a price I could stomach if I had to start looking again today.

I also think they're overrated, but that by no means makes them bad. I think he wants people to stop liking them so much so he can afford one.

[Anonymous No.6309567]

[Anonymous No.6309571]

>>6308759
If your main gripe is the single input, you could just leave the TV end of the S-video cables plugged in and just swap the console end between the N64 and SNES.

[Anonymous No.6309574]

>>6308759
Might you be able to arrange to pick it up when this whole shitshow is over? Like, ask him to contact you first or something.

[Anonymous No.6309587]

>>6304303
damn, now that's cozy. been running densha de go on my sony trinitron consumer crt, it's hella comfy

[Anonymous No.6309785]

>>6309529
>>6309507
>>6309501
Okay well that definitely helped, I now notice a gray line about 2/3 of the way up that wasn't there earlier but goes away after the tv has been on for awhile, so obviously a capacitor or something failing I imagine.

[Anonymous No.6309870]

>>6308114
Go for it lad, picrel zoomed phosphors of this monitor.
I've been using it for a year now, no problems, excellent sharpness and picture quality, also quite a lot options in service menu. There is manual in pdf available in web.

[Anonymous No.6309990]

>>6308787
I should have clarified, but I do have a small PVM, a Sony 9L2. It doesn't have RGB, and it has a tiny bit of burn-in (which is only noticeable on an all-white background). But I got it for $20 from some shady pawn shop, and considering that these things basically never turn up where I live, I consider it a win. The image quality is really good, and it's a joy to look at. But I find it taxing to play on that for any length of time, and it isn't one of the HR Trinitron models. The 14" ones look much nicer. But if you say the big consumer Trinitron is nicer then I will take your word for it.

>>6308796
I would do the RGB mod but I'm worried about fucking up my only large CRT. If I had a decent backup then I would probably give this a go.

>>6309571
> leave the TV end of the S-video cables plugged in and just swap the console end between the N64 and SNES
I was doing that, but I didn't want to wear out the consoles.

>>6309574
>ask him to contact you first or something
Yep, I sent him a message saying exactly that and got no response. I've had bad luck with this kind of stuff in the past as well.

>2 years ago, come across post on Kijiji with a Genesis and 20 games for $100
>Message seller
>Hey I'm interested in buying your Genesis
>"Oh okay yeah bro, we can meet next week I am going to visit family in Windsor for the weekend, I'll message you when I'm back"
>Next week comes, no response
>Are we still doing this deal?
>"Sorry bro forgot about you someone else bought it k sorry"

[Anonymous No.6310249]

Anybody else get kind of bored with CRTs and ended up moving into the larger world of AV science and display tech?

[Anonymous No.6310283]

>>6309218
retro-access.com

[Anonymous No.6310314]

>>6310249
>larger world of AV science and display tech?
larger in physical size maybe, but that's gotta be a lot harder to find old displays used for that kind of stuff, less of them made and used.

[Anonymous No.6310393]

>>6310249
I started buying any kind of weird AV tech as the CRT supplies dried out.
I have a lot of dumb shit now, like genlock, donwscalers, Umatic, V2000, SVHS and LD decks, some analogue camera systems, and more general 80s-90s AV/hifi stuff.
Vintage professional video stuff is scary and well-thought resources are quite rare.

[Anonymous No.6310512]

>>6310393
I love my LaserDisc player. My dad was an obsessive with I was a kid. Wanted to get rid of it all and I gladly took it.

[Anonymous No.6310617]

So I bought cheap $8 scart rgb cables for my SNES and dreamcast off ebay. For both the image looks like this. Another scart cable works perfectly on my ps2 so I don't think any of my devices are faulty. Is there something I'm doing wrong or are the cables just faulty?

[Anonymous No.6310640]

>>6310617
not all scart cables are the same, scart is just a standard for connecting things here in europe, they can be wired for composite or anything really, probably defective though.

[Anonymous No.6310852]

>>6310393
I'm more interested in stuff that's in the cultural purgatory where it's old enough to yesterday's news, but not old enough to be vintage yet. So that's Plasma and DLP televisions right now. Just like pro spec CRTs were when I first got into them in the mid 2000s.

I really want to pick up a good 2005-2013 era big screen television that was top of the line in its day, and then get the right tools like a spectrometer to calibrate it to the best possible performance.

I also have the itch to finally get something that's rear projection to looking as perfect as possible. Like a late generation CRT RPTV. They are given so much shit on the internet but I just have the hunch there is still untapped potential to be documented. And I want to just do it for myself, even if the tech is now obsolete. I'm like the car guys and their muscle cars I suppose. Just want to live the dream of owning that thing I saw in a magazine 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.6310859]

>>6310314
It would be. Things like that Barco rear projection computer monitor in the last thread are of myth and legend at this point.

[Anonymous No.6310898]

>>6310617
Looks like your set thinks it's component video, to me.

[Anonymous No.6310901]

>>6310898
(Note: amerilard here; no idea how SCART handles component video if at all. I use RGB via BNC to avoid these shenanigans and make my own cables)

[Anonymous No.6310927]

>>6310617
iirc you get the purple screen when you send rgb video to a component display.

[Anonymous No.6310972]

>>6310927
correct.
And green if you send YPbPr to an RGB display (with sync-on-green support).

[Anonymous No.6311093]

Typo spotted.

[Anonymous No.6311108]

>>6311093
Down where the text is there used to be a bad color impurity problem and also misconvergence.
Fixed it myself. I'm pretty proud of myself; I've had some horror stories in the past working on other color sets with purity issues where they never came anywhere close to looking right. Had to move magnets that the factory had taped down on an edge of the screen and adjust several rings, and then add a new extra convergence strip I had sitting in my toolbox from a prior job.

[Anonymous No.6311372]

Is there any use in getting a 16:9 SD set? I found a jvc av-30w475 and it looks good in terms of features and connections. I didn't know any manufacturer actually made a non hd widescreen set. Kind of a rare bird if you ask me

[Anonymous No.6311407]

Where would be the best place to find a woodgrain CRT from like the early 90s/80s? I'd imagine they're so old it'll be hard to find them at recycling centers.

[Anonymous No.6311409]

>>6311407
Craigslist, thrift stores, vendor malls, and asking random people.

[Anonymous No.6311410]

>>6310852
I manged to pick up a 42" Pioneer Kuro from Craigslist for $75 a little while back. I don't care what the HD CRT fags say, I've owned both and I would have a high-end Plasma any day of the week. Literally all the advantages of HD CRT and you get a ton of space back.

For SD content, it's a different story, but HD CRTs are garbage for 480i and 240p anyways. So I have a Plasma for all my Gen 7 and later content, and a 27" D-series for Gen 6 and earlier.

>>6311372
>Kind of a rare bird if you ask me
There's probably a reason for that. Ask yourself what advantages they could have over a 4:3 SD set, and then ask about the possible disadvantages. Many people in 2003 probably went through the same thought process.

[Anonymous No.6311413]

>>6309084
That angry pvm fag response, lmao.

[Anonymous No.6311418]

>>6311410
Have you tried shaders on the plasma?

[Anonymous No.6311431]

>>6311410
Plasma is objectively better than "HD CRT's" that do digital scaling. I don't blame you.
>>6311418
I seriously hope this idiotic shader meme will fucking die.

[Anonymous No.6311447]

This is the first SNES I've ever actually been able to clearly see the fabled bar on.
(I did have to mess with exposure settings to get it on camera, though).

On my other 1chip it's nearly impossible to see.

[Anonymous No.6311449]

>>6311447
Someone needs to make a vertical bar shader for muh developer intent

[Anonymous No.6311461]

>>6311449
I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.6311465]

>>6311461
Excellent.
The hero this thread deserves.

[Anonymous No.6311487]

>>6309213
Problems happening while warming up does hint bad cap issues.

[Anonymous No.6311490]

>>6311410
good taste

Euros got a lot more wide SD sets since they moved to digital TV and HD in more separate stages.

[Anonymous No.6311507]

I'm getting color bleeding only on green. How can this be fixed?

[Anonymous No.6311521]

>>6311507
"bleeding"
so misconvergence? Or purity blotches?

Misconvergence, try the rings inside. if it's at a corner, also try convergence strips (permalloy).

[Anonymous No.6311525]

>>6311507
(a picture would be useful since you aren't using the right terms.)
(if it's purity, other advice applies, and yes it is fixable but it's a pain in the ass to write out so I'll only do it if that's your problem)

[Anonymous No.6311530]

[Anonymous No.6311539]

>>6311525
p.p.s.
A cross-hatch pattern would be good if it's convergence, otherwise a solid green screen so we can see the discoloration.

[Anonymous No.6311586]

>>6311521
>>6311525
er not bleeding, banding. Not interested in going through the trouble of recapping my 13in Trinitron, but the speaker is muffled and that'll be an easy fix. I assume I'm ok to swap the default 1.5watt with a 2watt?

[Anonymous No.6311602]

A friend of mine used to collect CRTs and had a beautiful one, pretty large size, may have been widescreen? And it had a transparent door foor all the knobs on the front. His parents were sick of the space these things took up so they threw it out along with his Commodore model and portable Trinitron (without asking if any of his friends wanted them, of course). If anyone can help me find this model it would be appreciated. I know it wasn't a Sony.

[Anonymous No.6311642]

>>6311602
what country was this in
what was the latest year this could have occurred
was the screen curved or flat

[Anonymous No.6311648]

>>6311586
maybe.
Depends on how close it is to the screen and how they're getting that wattage.
if it's with a stronger magnet it's gonna cause issues.
(You shouldn't be using the built in speakers anyway, if you really want quality)
>>6311602
>it's not a sony and it has knobs and a door
That's the most vague description ever.

[Anonymous No.6311656]

>>6311642
Canada
2010
Curved

[Anonymous No.6311670]

[Anonymous No.6311950]

>>6310852
Yeah I can totally relate about having the top-of-the-line stuff from a couple decades ago. I'm not into RPTV, but I crave some CRT projectors and Plasma displays. I passed 2 Sony G70 CRT projectors because I just don't have anywhere to put them.

[Anonymous No.6311998]

>>6310283
Oh, them.
I'll better redo some audio/composite cables lying around into RGB and reuse console connectors from chink's $5 cables.

[Anonymous No.6312004]

>>6311487
No, not while, but after.

[Anonymous No.6312202]

>>6311372
16:9 SD was extremely common here in britain because widescreen broadcasts started quite early on a lot of digital skytv channels, my father got a 32" Philips tv back in 2001. hell he had a widescreen from around 98 that I genuinely can't remember what brand it was, when we moved house in 2001 he got that new one to put in the living room and put the other one in the sitting room. Of most of the tv's you find for sale or free nowadays are SD widescreens, HDCRT's are quite uncommon because people kept the SD sets up until they moved to plasma or lcd around 2011-ish.

[Anonymous No.6312402]

>>6311998
lots of chink cables don't have all the pins populated.

For the PSX, the SCPH-1060 is a nice solution where you can make first-party cables work for RGB when combined with a component cable.
The 1060 is also convenient in that you can connect a PS2 component cable to the back of it for RGB, and just get sync out of the yellow RCA jack on the side of the adapter. If you are really picky and want to remove the DC offset, you can also cram three 220µF caps inside it without much difficulty. The 1060 passes all connections through the multi-AV port _except for_ composite video which only is exposed via the RCA jack, but you can add a wire for composite as well pretty easily if you actually need it.
I personally modded my 1060 to output luma on the yellow jack instead, though, and my component cable is an aftermarket multi-system one (for Wii, Xbox 360, and PS3 allegedly) since I got it on clearance and it works well enough. That and I've not seen a first party component cable for sale locally recently (meaning in the last two years or so) - though I've never really gone looking either.

[Anonymous No.6312406]

>>6312402
BTW, most first-party PSX cables don't have all the pins populated.

And I meant SCPH-1160. My mistake. I'm running on caffeine right now.

[Anonymous No.6312409]

>>6312406
P.P.S.
If you have a launch (SCPH-100x) unit or a debugger unit, the 1160 shouldn't be necessary since there are RCA jacks on the back of the system, but if you want sync-on-luma and don't want to mod the console itself it's convenient there, too. I modded mine to output luma on the yellow RCA jack internally just because the bare minimum I'd ever use out of a PSX is S-Video and if I misplace my 1160 I can still get RGB out this way via just a component cable.

[Anonymous No.6312412]

>>6311586
>banding
Do mean like the sega mega drive with waterfalls in Sonic?

A picture would be nice.

[Anonymous No.6312715]

>>6312402
>lots of chink cables don't have all the pins populated.
Just buy these cheap Scart-RGB cables, they have all pins. And you even get Scart head.
All you need is swap wires for something with shielding or at least which runs separately like simple RCA cables.

[Anonymous No.6312831]

>>6311372
>digital comb filter
That might introduce lag. Or it might not. It would be worth it in any case imo.

[Anonymous No.6313141]

>>6303636
I love the Blackstripe designs so much. I've got the model in picrel, but it's not my picture. It's probably my favorite that I own aesthetics-wise.

[Anonymous No.6313190]

>>6305078
any update on this?
I'm curious to see what it really was

[Anonymous No.6313246]

Anyone know how to access the secret menu of a JVC

[Anonymous No.6313389]

Getting a decent old PC monitor has been way more difficult than my CRT TV search a few years ago.

[Anonymous No.6313484]

>>6305512
>OSSC + low latency monitor BTFOs your shitty composite only tubes.
>composite only tubes
Well sure, composite only is shit. You're not running a composite signal into your OSSC are you? (which can be done via that new Koryuu thing, or maybe one of the retro tink boxes).

[Anonymous No.6313727]

>>6313484
Stay in this thread long enough and you'll become a composite + consumer shadow mask fag.

[Anonymous No.6313736]

>>6305078
>>6313190
I'm the one who made the Post.
I bought it as it wasn't expensive, not knowing what connectors it even has.
Turns out it's a Philips 10cx1120, a portable mini TV from the mid-80's.
It has an RGB SCART connector at the back, so hooking it up to my SNES wasn't a problem.
Works like a charm.

[Anonymous No.6313758]

>>6313736
Oh, and sorry for the shitty image quality

[Anonymous No.6313798]

How do I run svideo through an extron crosspoint? Thanks

[Anonymous No.6313803]

>>6313798

[Anonymous No.6313810]

>>6313798
>>6313803

[Anonymous No.6313839]

>>6313803
Be honest, how often do you study that episode? Where women completely dominate manlets and fuck mega-alphas like Riker?

[Anonymous No.6313846]

>>6313839
Oh, I've only watched it once, in my first watch through of tng. I skip to season 3 on every re-watch since. Its only on because I was testing the vcr. The tapes are all labeled the same.

[Anonymous No.6313849]

>>6313846
But me likey jiggly. Season 1 had some good sexualized episodes.

[Anonymous No.6313854]

>>6313798
s-vid to 2xBNC cable (or to RCA + RCA-BNC adapters), luma in green, chroma in red or blue, do the same thing on in and out.

[Anonymous No.6313856]

>>6313854
Thanks, big dog.

[Anonymous No.6313857]

>>6312004
Seconding that anon. My PVM had lines that would run from the top to the bottom after warming up, it's a documented issue online and turned out to be a capacitor.

You can open up your TV and look for any caps that have bulging tops, crusty shit, or are lifted too high from the board.

[Anonymous No.6313878]

>>6313736
Fascinating. Does it support 60hz?

[Anonymous No.6313880]

>>6313727
You might find that people that enjoy good quality go elsewhere when they find out 4chan actually thinks composite/svideo is "acceptable"

[Anonymous No.6313907]

>>6313849
I like them okay. I plan on watching them all once my setup is dialed in. It's basically there, I just need to put the vcr signal through a switcher so I can throw it to the other monitors.

[Anonymous No.6313958]

>>6304267
souy?

[Anonymous No.6313984]

>>6313880
You'll come around.

[Anonymous No.6314124]

[Anonymous No.6314142]

How do you take a good image of a crt running?

[Anonymous No.6314161]

>>6307862
wow son I'm bout to judge you hard for those books

[Anonymous No.6314163]

>>6305919
nice girlfriend

[Anonymous No.6314164]

>>6314142
Camera has to be in sync with the (~)60hz refresh rate.

[Anonymous No.6314168]

>>6303636
is this donkey kong's TV?
>>6304257
those animes are geyy

[Anonymous No.6314224]

does this look good? guess tv

[Anonymous No.6314246]

>>6314224
>flat screen, GBC with Scanlines
emulator on your monitor with CRT filter

[Anonymous No.6314273]

>>6313857
>for any caps
Yeah, right.
And then go and into the wall of quarantine, and every shop is closed.

[Anonymous No.6314317]

>>6314124
Only one of those three can still feel his penis

[Anonymous No.6314320]

>>6314317
I work at the Charlottesville Baptist Cemetery. I can play with Christopher Reeve's penis whenever I want

[Anonymous No.6314534]

>>6304278
A good 27" set is probably about as good as it gets. Big enough to be enjoyable for multiplayer and watching shows, not so big that you need 2 people to move it.

[Anonymous No.6314696]

>>6313389
Blame the recent trend of videos like the one from digital foundry (their videos are good but god damn) where they basically show how CRT's are great for fast paced motion and refresh rates so people playing esports shit are trying to gobble them up and they'll willingly pay like £60 for a bog standard office monitor because they don't know crt's have variety like all monitors.

[Anonymous No.6315000]

>>6313878
I'm guessing since my consoles are all PAL it supports 50Hz.

[Anonymous No.6315034]

>>6315000
RGB can support 60hz on older consoles if you get them 60hz modded or if they naturally can do it by just putting a ntsc game into it, most tv's made after the 70's can do 60hz but just say 50hz because its 50hz PAL.

[Anonymous No.6315234]

>>6314224
scanlines are too thick

[Anonymous No.6315287]

What are the flicker filters on some dreamcast and ps2 ports of 240p games doing? I know those systems are running the games in 480i and that is what is creating the flicker.

[Anonymous No.6315479]

>>6314124
They fell for the PVMeme.

[Anonymous No.6315603]

>>6305271
I'm vibing off this

[Anonymous No.6315618]

[Anonymous No.6315627]

>>6315618
Where did you get that stand?

[Anonymous No.6315629]

>>6315627
I stole it from work

[Anonymous No.6315630]

[Anonymous No.6315709]

RE: image retention

On my PC CRT monitor I can do the following.
>turn off all lights in room
>display a 100% 0,0,0 black screen
>right click in the image area to bring up a menu
>unclick to go back to black screen
>the after image of the menu can still be seen for up to 30 seconds afterward

Yet the CRT screen will show no noticeable blur when using 240p's scroll test compared to the ugly blur on my LCD. However, my LCD does not display after images or phosphor trails (duh) in dark scenes.

When I played through a long session of Street Fighter recently to let the monitor warm up and went to go calibrate the black level setting in a completely dark room after I could see a ghostly pattern of the character faces in the upper left and right corners and a ghostly pattern where the character had moved around the screen. That after image retained itself for 10 minutes sitting on a plain black screen.

My monitor is very old and likely has tens of thousands of hours of usage on it. It was my desktop monitor for 6 years and was well used when I picked it up at a thrift store.

Take what you will from this information.

[Anonymous No.6315793]

>>6306506
link the fanfic when you're done

[Anonymous No.6315801]

>>6315627
It looks like a Fellows or AmazonBasics monitor stand.

[Anonymous No.6315827]

>>6315630
what is it

[Anonymous No.6315916]

>>6303636

[Anonymous No.6315919]

[Anonymous No.6315968]

A JVC monitor

[Anonymous No.6315989]

1989 Zenith Space Command

[Anonymous No.6316212]

>>6313810
That one brings back memories. I had one of those until I had to give it away a couple years ago to make space for other stuff.
>>6314224
Probably some decent consumer flat trinitron or maybe slot mask (I think trinitron based on the alignment of phosphors and the slightest blue convergence issue at the var left; I see that on a ridiculous number of trinitrons compared to other tube designs for some reason).
>>6314246
>GBC
Super Game Boy can do that game, though. I have a pic of it on my 20L5 around here somewhere. I bet that's what it is, with the border set to black.
>>6315234
Too thin*. The black areas are thick but those aren't the scan lines. They're the void.
The scan line _effect_ is too thick, though. For my liking at least.
>>6315618
That actually looks pretty. Good job on the photo, whoever you are.
>>6315919
>famicom data recorder
I think, anyway. That gives me an idea of scale.
That screen is adorable, but a bit small for me. And don't put magnetic-based media right on top of a CRT or it'll randomly wipe whatever's in it from repeated degaussings.
>>6315968
My man, JVC/Matsushita is da bomb.
>>6315989
Oh, man, major nostalgia-bomb there. My grandma and grandpa had this exact set when I was little. It's what I played Atari on whenever I went over there (My grandpa was a huge fan of River Raid and my grandma liked Megamania). It's the first set I ever played a game console on.
They have a ridiculous amount of overscan and the bezel doesn't help, but that's my only negative memory of them.
Yours is a bit over-saturated/tinted too orange, though.

[Anonymous No.6316278]

>>6316212
Forgot my pic

[Anonymous No.6316294]

>>6316212
The saturation and tint is easily adjustable. The overscan I'm not sure what I can do about though.

[Anonymous No.6316310]

>>6316294
You can fix it but you'll likely have to open it up.
And yeah, I remember that it had 'tint' controls and such, but I was just letting you know your colors were a little bad.
Not sure if it's your camera or if it's really green in that pic.

[Anonymous No.6316596]

>>6316212
>Too thin*. The black areas are thick but those aren't the scan lines. They're the void.
are you going to correct every single instance you see of a person saying scanline to refer to the voids
are you really going to be that guy

[Anonymous No.6316625]

>>6314246
>>6315234
>>6316212
its a sony kv-36fv310 running GBI through gameboy player on a gamecube(obviously) with svideo connection.

[Anonymous No.6316706]

>>6315618
I have that exact same laptop stand, and the same speakers. Thanks for giving me the idea to use this with my JVC PVM.

>>6315968
What model? I feel like the JVC units are criminally underrated. Everyone is going after the Sonys, but having owned both, I have to say I personally prefer the JVCs.

[Anonymous No.6316952]

>>6313141
I have one like this in another country, but I feel it's like a waste of time. I could connect a VCR and then the console to the thing but it would waste so much energy for pure nostalgia fagging. I don't know what to do.

[Anonymous No.6317000]

>>6305703
I have like 3 of those exact TV's
They're fucking phenomenal
I'm a normie tho

[Anonymous No.6317012]

>>6309545
He probably thinks it has to do with marxists or women or something

[Anonymous No.6317168]

This little motherfucker has RF/RCA and Component on it. Will never get rid of it.

Miss my XBR-960 tho

[Anonymous No.6317184]

>>6316294
Gunsmoke is cool and so are you anon

[Anonymous No.6317195]

[Anonymous No.6317219]

>>6317195
Whats your fucking point here?

[Anonymous No.6317227]

>>6317195
nice

[Anonymous No.6317237]

>>6308296
>>6308474
Mother fucker these and all the other shots look really fucking nice

[Anonymous No.6317245]

Best curbside find I'll ever get my hands on. Beautiful PC CRT with tri-dot and smooth, soft scanlines. Native RGB to die for and composite/SVideo look great.

[Anonymous No.6317250]

>>6317245
Holy mother of crisp!

[Anonymous No.6317318]

>>6317195
whow boy that's a clean picture

[Anonymous No.6317335]

>>6315916
That dreamcast is beautiful. Where did you get it?

[Anonymous No.6317385]

>>6317245
Did you get an amiga with it?
And curbside!? Where the fuck do you live to be getting Amiga gear curbside in 2020?
>>6317318
if you consider oversharpening postprocessing (by the camera or the user) to be clean.
I have a PVM that looks somewhat like that, but that's blown out by some sharpening filter in a phone, overexposure, or both.

[Anonymous No.6317423]

>>6317245
Yeah the 1080(?) is a beauty. And it supports CSync out of the box (unlike my 1942), and supports more signal formats than just RGBHV (1942 is basically just an SVGA PC monitor that will also do 15khz, the 1080 can't do 31khz but has way more flexible inputs). You can feed it csync on the hsync line and it'll work. I had to mod mine for it.
>PC CRT
that's where you're wrong. It's not really meant for PC compatibles (though I guess it'd work with an EGA digital RGB one - it's still 15khz only).
It's also a better fit for my Amiga 500 than the 1942. Wish I had one (still like my 1942 for the dot pitch, though). Yours looks in great shape. Mine's missing the flap to cover the controls on the front.
>>6317237
Thanks, I love it too. I think >>6316278 is my favorite so far, but I also did a raw capture for that one and it took a while so I might feel more attached to it than some of the others I've taken.

[Anonymous No.6317443]

>>6316952
>waste so much energy for pure nostalgia
You've come to the right place

[Anonymous No.6317554]

>>6314224
How do you zoom/fill the screen on the GBI?

[Anonymous No.6317558]

>>6317554
by moving the camera closer, setting the margins to black, and possibly adjusting trimmers or service menu settings on the set. On Game Boy Player anyway. Not sure what GBI is (and I'm not who you were asking)

[Anonymous No.6317572]

>>6317245
>>6317250
I think I'll throw bloodlines on my commodore monitor tomorrow, too.

[Anonymous No.6317590]

>>6308554
>coarse pitch
That monitor you're replying to is 0.28mm dot pitch, so ~750TVL at the center.
>>6308341
Good job!
>>6308342
the only thing I don't have I wish I could've gotten my hands on was a proper Amiga monitor
Any other brand/make of monitor that could be used with one should suffice, as well. NEC in particular made some excellent multiscan monitors that could be used with Amigas.
I love my Amiga monitor, but a tri-dot broadcast monitor might be ten years newer, have better geometry/adjustments, and correction for blooming. So if you can't find one, there ARE other great options if ~$100 is acceptable for you.
Only thing you'll likely miss with, say, a JVC BM-1400PN (for instance) would be the matte coating on the tube. It'll probably be "glossy." You can even use one with an Amiga by either syncing on the composite output or using an OR gate IC to combine the H/V sync signals.

Also, for what it's worth, my particular Amiga monitor has needed much more maintenance work than my pro monitors have. It's needed a couple new capacitors, and I think I still need more because while the caps I did replace (visibly popping) greatly reduced the smell there's still a slight burning odor. I really need to just recap the entire set already. It also had a purity issue that I had to move the factory-placed magnets to fix, and I've had to reflow solder to the built-in speakers twice now (opening the monitor seems to stress the connectors a lot).

[Anonymous No.6317591]

>>6307624
>>6307601
Matsushita owned both JVC and Panasonic in the 90's/early 2000's. Many Panasonic broadcast monitors have near-exact JVC equivalents.

[Anonymous No.6317595]

>>6317558
lol I'm taking about on the screen, not for taking photos. And GBI stands for Game Boy Interface.

[Anonymous No.6317596]

>>6317595
Who said he was using a gamecube?
That could just be a super game boy or the Stadium 2 transfer pak emulator.

[Anonymous No.6317602]

>>6317596
(or even a wii running an emulator in retroarch)

[Anonymous No.6317612]

>>6317596
He literally said he's using the Game Boy player right here >>6316625

[Anonymous No.6317614]

>>6317612
sorry, I'm retarded and missed that post.

At least my guess was right. Decent consumer flat trinitron.

[Anonymous No.6317616]

>>6317614
no worries

[Anonymous No.6317932]

>>6317168
why would you get rid of an xbr960?

[Anonymous No.6318370]

>>6317932
Maybe because flat trinitrons are overrated garbage with terrible geometry?

[Anonymous No.6318395]

https://youtu.be/Jhi5YKfmD7A

[Anonymous No.6318415]

>>6317335
>>6317335
It's the blue hello kitty version. Got off ebay probably 9-10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.6318429]

>>6316212
famicom data recorder indeed.
Yeah it's a 9" pvm.
It's a real space saver lol.
I used to have 3, but I fucked one up with a magnet. Now I have 2. I don't mind them being small. They are great for dragging in to the living room.

[Anonymous No.6318496]

>>6318370
Are you not smart enough to fix the geometry?

[Anonymous No.6318548]

>>6317614
>decent
thats a 36fv baby boy. nothing decent about it

[Anonymous No.6318569]

Do CRT tubes have a finite lifespan? I heard that retro arcade operators are in deep shit because their tubes are wearing out and.

[Anonymous No.6318574]

Is working on CRTs actually THAT dangerous?

[Anonymous No.6318593]

>>6318574
Yes. You will die.

[Anonymous No.6318645]

>>6307434
That's 95 but sure

[Anonymous No.6318654]

>>6307230
Tangentially related, but if you use pic related with a PVM/BVM's BKM-142HD and hook up the USB cable to your PC, Windows 10 somehow recognizes it's a CRT and installs Adobe Gamma. I don't know if this works with other monitors though.

[Anonymous No.6318661]

[Anonymous No.6318676]

>>6318496
Bro, I fixed convergence/purity on CRT's.
Flats are inherently shitty with geometry though.

[Anonymous No.6318679]

>>6318574
Yes, if you're stupid.
I've repaired several without incident though.

[Anonymous No.6318680]

>>6318574
From what I have heard, It's about as dangerous as working on an ATX power supply or anything electrical. You can injure or kill yourself if you don't follow the proper safety procedures, but it's not rocket science.
People just have to present it as deadly eldritch magic because they'll get sued if some retard electrocutes himself.

[Anonymous No.6318681]

>>6318569
Everything has a finite lifespan, its all about the hours range, monitors ran everyday for yearsand years are wearing out sure, but normal viewing times like 5 hours a day for example they last decades, its all about preventative maintenance and replacing components, the tubes themselves are the only thing that can't be replaced

[Anonymous No.6318690]

>>6318680
>It's not rocket science; people just have to present it as deadly eldritch magic because they'll get sued if some retard electrocutes himself.
exactly
But a CRT will bite more painfully than an ATX PSU if you start getting touchy-feely around the flyback or anode cap.
>>6318681
There are NLA IC's inside a lot of them. And tubes are no different from NLA IC's. You can maybe get them, but it's up to luck. Even color CRT's can be replaced, it's just labor-intensive.

[Anonymous No.6318691]

[Anonymous No.6318693]

I'm oblivious to this stuff, I have a Philips FSQ Vision from the 80s, is that any good?

[Anonymous No.6318697]

>>6318691
That looks like my Apple IIe composite monitor. Slot mask?

[Anonymous No.6318702]

>>6318693
Pics pls kthnx.
We don't know everything about every crt ever made.

[Anonymous No.6318706]

>>6318697
Yep, it's a cheap TV from 2001

[Anonymous No.6318716]

>>6318681
>its all about preventative maintenance and replacing components
Are there any good guides on this subject? Or is it just general electronics knowledge?

[Anonymous No.6318724]

>>6318702
not my pic but it's identical to this one as far as I can tell

[Anonymous No.6318737]

>>6318724
and a SCART port on the back

[Anonymous No.6318752]

>>6317932
I mean for HD stuff you could easily get something bigger, nicer and that doesn't weigh 300 lbs, that might be a reason

[Anonymous No.6318793]

>>6317250
Your colors look a little cool to me, but yeah it's very crisp.
Commodore 1942, same game. Downsized to same resolution as your pic for comparison's sake.
I do like how the lower resolution of your tube makes the image look; is there an adjustment on your set for color temperature though?
>>6318737
I mean, probably? Pics of it turned on?

[Anonymous No.6318797]

>>6318793
original pic resolution

[Anonymous No.6318818]

>>6305526
This. If you're playing ps3 and under (even though modern tvs were a thing in that era) you're missing out. The games actually look a lot better with the subtle anti aliasing and smoothing/improving of non hd textures that a crt provides, yet gets more detail through the super fine pitch crt than a standard crt. It's the BEST of both worlds.

Most Switch games are actually really awesome looking on an hd crt too.

[Anonymous No.6318915]

I'm getting some sudden and bizarre geometry issues with my Sony KV-35V45. This happened after moving the TV slightly to disconnect something in the back (not even lifting it), and appears on S-Video or RF. Now there's a slight ripple on the right side, and some barrel distortion on the left. Can't find anything in the menu other than "tilt correction". Is there any way to adjust these big Trinitrons aside from fucking with the flyback?

>>6318691
>>6318706
For a cheap TV, that looks pretty sharp to me. What brand is it?

[Anonymous No.6319040]

>>6318690
>But a CRT will bite more painfully than an ATX PSU if you start getting touchy-feely around the flyback or anode cap.
Can't you just discharge the CRT by poking a screwdriver under the anode cap?

[Anonymous No.6319289]

>>6314273
Amazon is still shipping, I think.

[Anonymous No.6319314]

>>6315827
Master system star wars on 32" JVC tube
Baby tv here

[Anonymous No.6319423]

>>6305271
Just coom'ed

[Anonymous No.6319446]

>>6305635
>Can someone help a normalfag to crts here? Hunting for a pvm now

Don't. Get a later model consumer set with component and stop wasting time chasing down pvm. PVM are fine, and work great for leddit tier selfies, but consumer sets are fucking good for playing games. I have both and I would rather play on my 32" sharp than my 20" pvm any day.

Seriously, PVM are not worth the price they command now. If you find one at your local broadcast place, sure, try it, but realize a pvm isn't the be all end all way to game on a crt.

[Anonymous No.6319514]

>>6314164
also adjust CRT Contrast and/or room lighting to get a good balance.

[Anonymous No.6319573]

>>6305514
That is only if you use the HDMI ports. If you use an analogue input, HDCRTs are peak home video performance save for 4K.

[Anonymous No.6319636]

>>6308343
I am a lanklet andcan't lift more than 35lbs without feeling like my arms are being ripped off my torso, so they are worth it to me.

[Anonymous No.6319663]

I just got a Sharp 27c530 for free and I'm trying to fix an overscan issue. I read that you are supposed to hold the vol- and ch+ buttons when plugging in the tv to access the service menu, but the tv doesn't turn on automatically. I'm using a universal remote that did not come with the tv, if that matters. Besides that, it looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6319671]

>>6319573
>literally all the advantages of an XBR960, with a screen that's got an extra 16 inches diagonal, while being 85% thinner and 65% lighter

I like my SD CRT as much as the next guy but HD CRTs are objectively pointless and dumb, aside from the amusing white elephant factor.

[Anonymous No.6319692]

>>6319671
i mean yea they're expensive if you want real good quality that offers true black. but for the most part i agree hdcrts suck cock.

question. lets say you take a perfectly functioning crt and put it into storage as is. in 10 or 15 years will that crt still function normally or are there things that just dry up and die on the inside?

[Anonymous No.6319727]

>>6319692
Plasmas also offer true black, and do not have motion blur (but do suffer from a tiny bit of input lag). That was my point. They're basically CRTs on a diet.

As for putting a CRT in storage, it really depends. I have an early 90s 27" Panasonic which sat in the garage at my family's cottage for 12 years. This was not at all a temperature or humidity controlled environment- it was basically exposed to the elements for over a decade. I recently went to retrieve it after my Trinitron died. It was dusty and gross, but it fired right up and gave almost perfect picture. Meanwhile, I had a Philips 107B monitor sit in my closet for the better part of 6 years. This was a dark, climate-controlled environment. When I took it out, the picture was jumping around like a jack russell terrier. So I would say you are best off just firing it up and seeing where that takes you.

[Anonymous No.6319729]

>>6319727
Correction: Plasmas are basically HD CRTs on a diet.

I would never consider playing anything pre-7th gen on a Plasma

[Anonymous No.6319754]

Show me late 90s crts.

[Anonymous No.6319767]

Have a Sony PVM-14M2U in the mail, anyone have experience with this monitor? Online reviews and such seem to say it's a great television.

[Anonymous No.6319773]

>>6319727
>Plasmas also offer true black, and do not have motion blur (but do suffer from a tiny bit of input lag).
yea thats what i mean when i said they're expensive for true blacks. but i worded it shittily
but yea i figured it was hit or miss. the last thing i want to do is start cracking open tvs and "replacing caps"

within this year i will deff be renting out a storage space and collecting all free crt's in my 30 mile radius

[Anonymous No.6319774]

[Anonymous No.6319776]

>>6319774

[Anonymous No.6319806]

>>6317385
No Amiga computer, and New York City suburbs. I found it in I think 2016? It had been left out under someone's garage door lip, but was still rained on for several days. I took it home, disassembled and cleaned it, and calibrated it. Works great.

My friend also gave me one of TWO 1702 monitors he found by some trash. He gave me the crappier one, and it was a blast to refurbish. The plastic grill is cracked and the a/v inputs have some cold solder, but it still works. No idea how I've had this luck, specifically with computer monitors.

Here's composite from an NES during my Willow playthrough. Amazing Zelda clone, arguably better in some ways.

[Anonymous No.6319808]

>>6319767
For gaming? You just got meme'd my friend.

[Anonymous No.6319810]

>>6319808
Explain

[Anonymous No.6319838]

>>6319767
It's a very good tv, 600 lines for 14'' means a very sharp picture

[Anonymous No.6319861]

>>6319838
Researching it online seems to indicate it's a bit better for smaller sprites like 8 bit systems but most people seem pleased with it even with later consoles. No idea what that other guy is talking about.

[Anonymous No.6319901]

>>6319774
I almost ended up with one of these in the 90s. Skipped on it due to the small size. Ended up with a Sony FV300 a few years later.

[Anonymous No.6320060]

is there any way to check the geometry of my crt without buying an hdmi to av converter?

[Anonymous No.6320082]

>>6320060
240p test suite

[Anonymous No.6320090]

>>6320060
come on dude

[Anonymous No.6320185]

>>6319810
Some one in this thread already explained it perfectly well why PVM is just a stupid hipster meme.

[Anonymous No.6320186]

>>6304069
it's dangerous to use a CRT on its side

[Anonymous No.6320194]

>>6309552
Expensive? They are dirt cheap around here. Maybe in Burgerland.

[Anonymous No.6320615]

>>6319040
Yes. But if you're adjusting, say, color purity/convergence, it has to be on for that.
>>6319806
>NY City suburbs
Lucky devil.
I've been refurbing my 1942 as well, lots of stuff wrong with it when I got it.
>>6320194
That's correct, burgerland. Where most monitors/TV's don't have RGB inputs and Amiga gear is scarce.

[Anonymous No.6320624]

>>6320615
15khz RGB, I should specify

[Anonymous No.6320647]

>>6319806
Yeah, I own Willow, too.
Can't do composite on my 1942 unfortunately, but my Panasonic 14" tube has the same dot pitch, is about as bright, is about a decade newer, and has a composite input so I have to use that for it.
The down side is no 480p on it and it's not got an anti-glare finish.

[Anonymous No.6320780]

I'm gonna be moving from the US to my third world country for work, and I was pretty excited since I know that CRTs are still easily available there.
Only problem is I found out that they're a PAL region so obviously my chad 60hz NTSC consoles won't work here.
Am I SOL or is it possible to mod a CRT to accept NTSC like how you can RGB mod them?

[Anonymous No.6320792]

>>6320780
Most PAL CRTs support NTSC since about 1990.

[Anonymous No.6320832]

>>6320792
Oh I had no idea.
So lets say I buy an RGB SCART cable for my NTSC PS1, would it on a PAL TV at 60hz?

[Anonymous No.6321019]

>>6320832
RGB isn't NTSC or PAL, it will play on a PAL tv at 60hz if the tv is half way modern, like after 1976.

[Anonymous No.6321020]

>>6321019
>>6320832
Forgot to add what you'd need to worry about is power for the console, not connected it to a tv.

[Anonymous No.6321047]

>>6320185
Ah, so it was a meme post, got it.

[Anonymous No.6321052]

>>6319774
fucking ugly piece of trash, also a reddit meme with only composite
throw that into the garbage

[Anonymous No.6321054]

>>6320186
no it's not

[Anonymous No.6321578]

>>6320185
PVMs are not a meme

[Anonymous No.6321841]

>>6321020
Buying one of those 220v to 110v step down boxes isn't a big deal at all.
I just thought that PAL CRTs were hard locked to 50hz

[Anonymous No.6322109]

>>6321578
Translation: I paid 400 dollars for a 13 inch PVM and it was worth every penny to play SNES in STUNNING are gee bee with EPIC scanlines!

[Anonymous No.6322118]

>>6322109
You're trying too hard

[Anonymous No.6322249]

>>6322109
Copeosite

[Anonymous No.6322304]

>>6321841
At least you know to get a good quality step down transformer, some retards think simple adaptors are fine, but yeah anyway its just PAL that's 50hz, the tv's themselves can do 60hz through RGB. I imagine it would have been economically impractical to make entirely separate tv line to lock a tv to 50hz instead of just a few other changes to have it for use in a pal region,for it to be locked to 50hz because pal is usually 50hz.

[Anonymous No.6322447]

hey /vr/ quick question, should I get a curved or a flat-screen CRT monitor?

[Anonymous No.6322456]

>>6322447
Curved is preferable, read the stuff in the sticky

Flat screen CRT's came in in the mid 2000's and while better than modern screens for old shit aren't as good as the curved screens

They are better for watching films tho

[Anonymous No.6322467]

>>6322456
thanks

[Anonymous No.6323097]

>>6322447
Flat CRT PC monitor > Curved

[Anonymous No.6324035]

Anyone know how to access the secret menu of a JVC? I have a AV-36D501. Months ago an anon gave me with remote combination but the screen shifted again and I have the memory of a fish.

[Anonymous No.6324042]

>>6308678
I am satisfied with my GO desu. Holding the screen button to shoot to the CRT is perfect. Also, my CRT has geometry settings. I reserve "Underscan" for my PSPGo with modified geometry settings to zoom games in and non underscan for everything else retro.

[Anonymous No.6324043]

>>6322456
A good flatscreen is amazing once calibrated and can be played in much brighter rooms with better contrast. There’s a lot of benefits to flat vs curved. But the geometry is slightly worse and that’s just not something that can be overcome. I prefer a flatscreen but I can understand people’s aversion

[Anonymous No.6324061]

pic related has a sweet fucking soundtrack

[Anonymous No.6324295]

>>6322456
But a good flat screen will beat out a mediocre curved screen. And there were a LOT of shitty curved 60 Hz flickerfest monitors. I would much rather have something that can push resolution and refresh rate. The Diamondtron NF tubes are absolutely gorgeous. Some of the big Viewsonics could also do 180 Hz. Even smaller ones like the P95f+ could push 160 Hz. The smoothness is amazing.

[Anonymous No.6325082]

>>6319671
>all the advantages
Still a fixed resolution display. I wouldn't play vanilla standard definition games on a HD plasma if you paid me.

[Anonymous No.6325148]

>>6325082
You might be surprised at the results. Most plasmas have oddly good scaling and de-interlacing, and anywhere between substantial and near 0 lag. It's certainly better than any LCD.

[Anonymous No.6325196]

450TVL. BVM owners can eat my ass.

[Anonymous No.6325235]

>>6325196
yea but like bvms look really nice. i'm not saying they're a must have or essential, i myself sold off my bvms bc i just didn't care for the small size of 20 inches but they're deff something pretty to look at

[Anonymous No.6325248]

>>6325235
I didn't like the way mine looked with retro games. Way too sharp and unnatural. I sold it for twice the price of what I paid for it because retards watch MLiG and rectalRGB and think they need one to enjoy their retro games properly.

[Anonymous No.6325283]

>>6325248
6th gen looks nice tho

[Anonymous No.6325293]

>>6325283
I won't deny that, but I don't really play those systems anymore.

>t. boomer

[Anonymous No.6325307]

Playing secret of mana on my 2005 Panasonic TAU, picked it up on Craigslist for only $10 bucks, thing looks and sounds awesome

[Anonymous No.6325308]

>>6325293
other day some kid on xbox live messaged me and told me it was my fault we lost bc my boomer hands were too slow ;_;

[Anonymous No.6325315]

>>6324061
What game? Like the art style.

[Anonymous No.6325668]

>>6325307
Test suite that shit

[Anonymous No.6325767]

[Anonymous No.6326097]

>>6325315
xenocrisis

[Anonymous No.6326294]

>>6325767
what game

[Anonymous No.6327030]

>>6324035
bump

[Anonymous No.6327197]

>>6325082
>I wouldn't play vanilla standard definition games on a HD plasma if you paid me

I wouldn't play vanilla standard definition games on a HD CRT if you paid me. They'd look like ass. Of course you use a standard definition CRT for those. What I am saying is that for everything HD CRTs are suited for (7th gen+ consoles, HD content), a Plasma will do anything they do, better, in less space and with less electricity.

>>6325148
I honestly cannot understand how LCDs won out over Plasmas. By the end of their lifespan, Plasma TVs were really cheap, the colours and blacks were better than equivalent LCDs, and they handled motion beautifully. They also had much longer lifespans. A bog standard Plasma had about 60,000 hours, while a top-of-the-line Panasonic or Pioneer would be rated for 100,000 hours. That's insane. Think about it: even if you used the TV for 4 hours a day, 7 days a week, the panel would last 68 years before it starts to degrade. Meanwhile, most CRTs will lose between 20-30% of their brightness after only 20,000 hours. I can kind of understand the motivation to go from CRT to Plasma once HD content became the norm, but Plasma to LCD was an absolute disaster for consumers.

>>6325248
I was actually quite pleased with the Sony 14L2 that I picked up from an old AV business just recently. It's 14", 240 TVL, and S-video only (you can get an RGB expansion card but that negates the point of picking up the TV for free). I find that it is much sharper than my late 90s Trinitron (and certainly sharper than my early 90s Panasonic, but not really a fair comparison since that one was composite and RF only), but not so sharp as to make the games look blocky and unnatural. It's perfect for what I was looking for.

>>6325767
I need to get a setup like this. Better ergonomics.

[Anonymous No.6327223]

>>6326294
use your fucking brain retard. it's ff11

[Anonymous No.6327253]

>>6327197
An HD CRT is as suited to a 240p game as a broadcast monitor is. Neither were thought about by any developer on earth. You either like how games look on the phosphor pattern on them or you don't.
Regardless an HD CRT is still analog and it will always be better at standard definition content because of that. To deny that is to flaunt the blue sky.

[Anonymous No.6327256]

>>6327197
You and many more hate on HD CRT, but the only problem is misinterpret 240p as 480i.
So, you can solve it with upscaler if TV has HDMI or use some HDMI-Component convertor.

[Anonymous No.6327260]

>>6327253
>HD CRT is still analog
No, they have DAC and digitize signals, that's why they have typical flatscreen-problems as 240p as blurry 480i.

[Anonymous No.6327261]

>>6325767
>that game
>on that tv
You're the fucking man of the hour, anon

[Anonymous No.6327351]

>>6325196
Here's some more 450TVL porn. It's an RGB modded honeywell CCTV monitor, btw. In reality, it's a Hitron (korean) with a samsung tube.

[Anonymous No.6327507]

Is using upscalers (OSSC, framemeister) worse than PVMs? I do enjoy them but they're costly, potentially small, heavy.

[Anonymous No.6327876]

>>6321578
| sed 's/not //'
>>6322109
As a 20" PVM owner, you're right, with the exception that it didn't cost $400 for one around a decade ago.
>>6322447
I like curved, but if I weren't willing to mod my TV's for RGB I'd choose whichever has the better input selections. That usually means aiming for YPbPr component and S-Video, which usually means flat (but not always).

There are of course exceptions, and then there's mainland Europe where they had RGB for ages and good curved sets are easier to find.

TL;DR: If american. choose the one with better inputs. Otherwise, choose curved because they probably have the same inputs unless they're ancient.

[Anonymous No.6327915]

>>6324035
>>6327030
Here's your answer. Not sure why you weren't able to find it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6327918]

>>6327915
that's a video btw, it actually does have the answer in full hand-holdy form.

[Anonymous No.6327921]

>>6327507
Than using RGB on a CRT, definitely worse. Worse than using RGB on a Sony® PVM specifically, debatable.

[Anonymous No.6327931]

>>6321054
actually, it's bad for the guts because they aren't designed to be supported that way. sure, you can get away with it, but you are increasing your risk of damaging your CRT.

if anyone lives in the NC triangle area and wants a CRT-VHS combo, take it off my hands please. public services are closed so i can't recycle it, but it works

[Anonymous No.6327938]

>>6327256
>the only problem is
-that they-
>misinterpret 240p as 480i
I guess if you ignore the fact that a truly multiscan CRT could display 240p and HD without a framebuffer, any lag, or any "misinterpretation", then sure. But almost all HDTV CRT's are fixed scan with scalers, which inherently means a framebuffer and input lag and a loss of potential TVL from whatever the phosphor pitch is (the native TVL) to the resolution in pixels of the frame buffer.
Multiscan screens and SDTV's don't have a concept of pixels, but HDTV CRT's almost always do. So enjoy your unfixable input lag.

Oh yeah, and you can't do the OSD mod trick for HDTV's to get analogue RGB because the OSD is overlayed on top of the framebuffer and the scan rate would still be wrong anyway.

If you are watching 50hz content on a 60hz screen, all that content is going to be 'pulled up' to 60hz by a variety of means rather than changing to the desired refresh rate. If 50hz, same deal (with a few exceptions - I know some would work at double rate, like 100hz, in PAL countries; that's still not a multiple of 60 though so it's useless for NTSC content).

TL;DR they have all the drawbacks of CRT's and all the weaknesses of modern LCD's. If you really want an HD set either get a multiscan monitor, or if you want bigger, do yourself a favor and get a plasma screen. They don't have the same purity/convergence issues, they typically use similar or less energy, they weigh less, they use the exact same or similar phosphors (similar color gamut), and they don't emit anywhere close to as much X-ray radiation for that matter. They have similar input lag to an HD CRT, and they can look great with old vidya. I've used a 52" Panasonic plasma from around 2008 with S-video, YPbPr, VGA(!) and HDMI - it looked great, and would have been perfect with one of those vidya scalers you idiots drool over.

I like SDTV myself.

[Anonymous No.6327941]

>>6327931
OK, now tell me how you're gonna damage it.

Old macs had their CRT driver boards mounted vertically in their cases with the flyback towards the top so it could dissipate heat better. Sure, occasionally one would break loose, but most compact macs did not have a problem.

[Anonymous No.6327950]

>>6318569
?? unless burned (insert coins etc) tubes itself rarely cause any problems - chassis does, and they will die

In some rare case the tube could lose or get weak showing red, blue or green, but there is a thingy that activates them most of the times. But again, in arcade monitors the troublesome bit are the chassis.

Enter crt rejuvenator

[Anonymous No.6327980]

>>6318569
Everything does.
CRT's in arcades are powered much more per day than most others outside of TV stations.
Most consumer gear is subjected to much kinder treatment than arcade machines.

[Anonymous No.6327993]

>>6327915
Cool Solaris theme

[Anonymous No.6327996]

>>6327950
>In some rare case the tube could lose or get weak showing red, blue or green,
this usually happens as the guns approach 250K hours of use.

[Anonymous No.6327997]

>>6327993
>solaris
You're referring CDE (dtwm)/MWM, I assume?
And yeah. It's FVWM.
I think it's better than CDE in most ways, although I do have CDE installed on here too.

[Anonymous No.6328019]

[Anonymous No.6328548]

>>6327938
>unfixable input lag
Yes, its there, but if its in range of 30-40ms - why even care? Everyone already used to it.
>50hz content
Almost non-existent right now, and everything will be working with 60hz.
Everyone knows that 60hz is better and will be feeding correct signal (I hope you agree we can disregard idiots who don't know what 50/60hz is).

>get a plasma screen
I myself got it 9 years ago and its still great. All this talk about HD CRT is just for experimenting.
>similar or less energy
50" rated for 420W. But I knew what I'm getting (also, they are great heaters).
>they weigh less
Maybe they are, but they so wide I can't move it by myself.
>of those vidya scalers
Didn't really used my plasma for retro all this years because Panasonic lack any normal zoom functions (image retention). But scalers do (not that I'm willing to get spend anything on RGB-Mini), and lately they can apply colored mask to overscan (OSSC) so I can finally play some retro with its ugly overscan.

Plasma died because no one cares about picture quality and if you go to tv-store everything will be overblown and plasma won't be better in those conditions.
And for clerks to sell LCD was just simpler.
It was so much easier to sell hot and new "LED" (and don't even start about TN/IPS/VA) than some old-ass and dated "plasma" (some old term to them from 90s).

[Anonymous No.6328602]

>>6304257
>"my most-played game is 240p Test Suite"
Ain't that true! My too after getting PVM14L2 lately.

[Anonymous No.6328716]

Saw this listing for $20, worth my time? 26 inches seems a bit large for a casual retro gaming corner in my tiny apartment

[Anonymous No.6328779]

Composite on an old grey PSone.

[Anonymous No.6328782]

>>6328779
Component on a fat PS2.

KV-27FS12 I got for free. Geometry isn't amazing, but it's alright for a flat tube.

[Anonymous No.6328793]

>>6328782
What kind of component cables are you using?

[Anonymous No.6328796]

>>6328793
Crappy amazon ones for now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B1BMH7A

[Anonymous No.6328803]

>>6328796
Had a feeling the colors looked blown out and edges soft in your picture , the HD Retrovision ones are the best I've used yet. They're cheap unlike their 4th gen cables.

[Anonymous No.6328882]

>>6328548
>why even care?
IDK, maybe because light guns?
Of course, unless your TV is scanning at 15.6khz, even having no input lag isn't going to be enough, though.
>Almost non-existent right now, and everything will be working with 60hz.
Well someone doesn't own an Amiga then.

Not arguing why plasma died, but if you want a dead technology and you don't want an SDTV you might as well go plasma. There's not a single way a good HD CRT is better than a good plasma that I can think of besides maybe what they cost when they were new being less.
>>6328716
Maybe, depends what you want out of your TV.
I like a little 14" screen a couple feet away, and 20" for a meter or two.
>>6328803
>I must consume product to survive
>>6304257
Like amiga people and sysinfo. I couldn't agree more.
Cute twin fami. I just use a regular famicom, but I always loved those red ones.
Hard to tell from that photo,but is that composite video? Looks like it might be, but it's hard to see the characteristic fringing from here without more zoom and the reds are maye a teeny bit more vivid than I'm used to (could just be the camera though). Also it's too far away to really see much of the jailbar pattern twins usually seem to experience rather a lot of (though it'd be more visible on dark colors anyway).

[Anonymous No.6328892]

>>6328882
>>I must consume product to survive
You OK there buddy?

[Anonymous No.6328895]

>>6328793
>>6328803
>>6328796
They probably don't even sell them anymore, but the Energizer 4in1 component cables are literally a godsend.

[Anonymous No.6328898]

>>6308341
that looks sick anon!
>tales of the abyss
good choice.

[Anonymous No.6328908]

I suck at taking photos.

[Anonymous No.6328909]

>>6328892
>You OK there buddy?
Yep, 'cause at least I'm not a shill.

[Anonymous No.6328917]

>>6328909
It's just cables anon, don't get triggered over it.

[Anonymous No.6328961]

>>6328882
>Well someone doesn't own an Amiga then.
Nah, don't care about old computers or even old PC scene.
My little interest in HD CRT only for 6-gen actually.

[Anonymous No.6328964]

>>6328961
I unironically love HD CRT's. I'm not sure why they are bad mouthed so much.

[Anonymous No.6329067]

>>6328882
>Hard to tell from that photo,but is that composite video?
Yeah

[Anonymous No.6329112]

>>6328964
It'd be fun to fool around with at a friend's on occasion, but the uses are way too niche for me to ever waste space on.

[Anonymous No.6329146]

>>6328964
>I'm not sure why they are bad mouthed so much.
This place full of hipsters, they even praise composite here.

[Anonymous No.6329163]

>>6329146
That's some strong projection. Caring more about appearance than substance is the very essence of hipsterdom, and most regulars here would tell you to go with s-video if that's all you can find because a marginal increase in image quality has about nothing to do with how much you enjoy a video game.

[Anonymous No.6329219]

>>6329163
>if that's all
That's a big if. Its not hard right now.
And there's plenty of information about what's the best. No need to settle for compromises.

[Anonymous No.6329246]

>>6327915
Imagine being this mad

[Anonymous No.6329459]

Does anyone have any recommendations of good anime that has never been remastered?

[Anonymous No.6329514]

>>6328964
>I'm not sure why they are bad mouthed so much

I honestly don't care either way, if someone wants to get an HD CRT and feel that they're somehow preferable, then it's a free country, go ahead. But I think people need to really be cognizant of their drawbacks, because there seems to be a lot of shilling for HD CRTs lately. And >>6327938 did a good job at that summarizing why they may not be a good choice for everyone.

>>6328716
I have a KV-27S42. I imagine it's very similar to the KV-27S40 (they look the same from the front at least, share the same chassis etc). It's a pretty good set, 27", and the tube gives a nice picture. Colours are good and it's sharp. 27" is perfectly fine for most spaces. My issue is there is only ONE set of S-video / composite inputs on mine. In addition, you get a coax jack and that is it. I did have an S-video selector (pic related), but it was total crap. S-video fed through it looked like composite, and composite looked like RF. To get a good one is probably around $40-$60, and at that point, you've already spent $60-$80 on the TV and the damn switch. For that money or less, I guarantee you could probably find a JVC D-series or a Trinitron with more inputs. Before buying the S40, you may want to ask the person listing it if it has more than 1 set of inputs. Also, that photo seems to have been taken from a Reddit thread, just FYI.

>>6328882
That little Panasonic looks really nice. It looks like the geometry is off though, any way for you to adjust that?

[Anonymous No.6329619]

>>6327915
Thanks. I forgot the actual name of it so I couldn't find it.

[Anonymous No.6329831]

>>6328548
>if its in range of 30-40ms - why even care? Everyone already used to it
you have to be joking

[Anonymous No.6330069]

sorry for use a wrong thread for this problem, but can i fix this white spots in lcd screen? isn't dead pixels so i don't have ideal what is.

[Anonymous No.6330748]

>>6325196
>>6327351
What size screen?

[Anonymous No.6330778]

>>6330748
20 inch.

[Anonymous No.6330935]

>>6330069
Get a CRT

[Anonymous No.6330990]

>mfw I'm getting a snes tomorrow
>mfw I'm getting a crt tomorrow

[Anonymous No.6331056]

>>6330069
Try different signal source.
Maybe its screen that dying, maybe its the source, maybe you just have too much brightness/contrast/saturation turned up.

[Anonymous No.6331248]

where do people with heavier sets place their tv?
I set mine on a cheap Walmart bookshelf and am worried that one morning I'll wake up to find a huge mess of electronics by my bed.

[Anonymous No.6331783]

>>6331248
I place mine on one of these. It swivels and the original owner used it on their shelves for years.

[Anonymous No.6331824]

>>6331248
I just bought a simple IKEA stand that's designed to fit into a corner, so it has the depth for CRTs. It's been fine for the past 5 years. That being said, I have a separate Kallax shelf that holds all my consoles.

>>6330990
Congrats, welcome to the club. What size screen and what manufacturer?

>>6329514
Pelican, despite their crap N64 accessories, did make a good S-video switch. I have the 5-way switch but I imagine the 4-way is probably much the same. Video and audio quality are both very good, no noise or other bullshit that you get from the cheap Chinese switches (some of which, by the way, require all inputs to have something plugged in, or else there will be noise). I think there was also a GameStop branded version which is pretty much the same thing.

[Anonymous No.6331884]

>>6304294
i had to roll my 36er trini up a flight of stairs to get it into my room, not looking forward to getting it back down when i move

[Anonymous No.6331907]

Whats a good way to learn how to fix CRTs and other super dangerous electronics? One of mine just died and I can't find a place that will fix it. It's my favorite monitor to.

[Anonymous No.6331926]

>>6319314
>>6315630
Damn, the Master System looks really good. This almost looks like an early 16-bit game.

Every time I come across one I can't help but be impressed. From a graphics standpoint, it really puts the NES to shame.

[Anonymous No.6332191]

>>6331907
videokarma.org forum
watch 12voltvids on youtube. he has several CRT repair videos.

[Anonymous No.6332313]

>>6332191
Thanks. Do they talk about non-risky things you can practice on to? I'd like to get some experience fucking around without risking dying.

[Anonymous No.6332323]

>>6332313
You're not going to die, unless you're an absolute drooling retard there's no way to die, its like working on a power supply, just don't be an idiot and you're fine.

[Anonymous No.6332354]

>>6306229
I have same problem, only with a sansui. It has component at least so I don't mind too much.

[Anonymous No.6332357]

>>6332313
Learn how to discharge the anode cap
Don't touch high voltage capacitors unless you know they're discharged. Use a multimeter to test them. Other than that, there's really nothing to worry about. Obviously don't mess around with it while it's plugged in!

[Anonymous No.6332373]

>>6332323
Yeah it's easy once you've done it a few times, but on the first time with anything it's easy to make some stupid beginner mistake.

>>6332357
That's what I heard. Just not looking forward to opening up my CRT and figuring out why it keeps flickering 10 times a second.

[Anonymous No.6332420]

I just bought an Emerson EWF2006. I’ve tried a couple of the universal remotes I have with all of the codes I could find but have had no luck with it. Should I just buy a new one. Also, every time I turn it on, it goes through the initial setup. Is there any way to fix that?

[Anonymous No.6332448]

>>6332373
What kind of CRT is it? When you say flickering, do you mean the entire picture goes dark for a second? if possible, take a video and post it here.

[Anonymous No.6332469]

>>6332448
I don't have it on hand. I have it in a storage unit for the time being. It's a Sony 420gs. The screen flickers off within like a split second and made a click noise. Originally it did it every once in a while, but one day it started doing it multiple times a second. I took it to a shop to get it looked at but all they said was "It's arcing through the pins" and couldn't be fixed. They seemed like they obviously didn't want to deal with it though.

[Anonymous No.6332560]

>>6332420
The original remote you want is NE116UE. You can find one on eBay.

[Anonymous No.6332803]

>>6329459
Bros please

[Anonymous No.6332867]

>>6332803
4:3?

[Anonymous No.6332882]

>>6332803
There is no good anime.

[Anonymous No.6332908]

>>6332867
Yeah. I'm looking to either buy some vhs tapes or play through a ps3 via universal media server.
>>6332882
Fine then, how about anything that might look better on a crt?

[Anonymous No.6332927]

>>6332908
vampire hunter d (1985)

[Anonymous No.6332938]

>>6332927
Thank, friend. I watched I literally this morning. I found it at a thrift store months ago and I finally got my vcr sorted this past week. I also found a copy of Roujin Z locally on OfferUp for $3. I'm not looking to pay more than that for anything but I do like the small vhs collection I've pieced together.

[Anonymous No.6333003]

>>6332938
Nice

[Anonymous No.6333312]

Anyone have an opinion on Toshiba Cinema Series CRTs? There's a 32-35" sitting out behind my job (I work at a TV store) that someone dropped off for recycling. 4:3. Big and heavy. Don't know model number.

Trying to figure out if it's worth the effort to borrow a truck and take it home.

[Anonymous No.6333335]

>>6333312
They're big, free CRTs with multiple S-video inputs and a curved screen. Don't be picky. It's not a D-series but I would probably pick one of those up if I didn't have anything at all.

[Anonymous No.6333379]

>>6333335

I think this one might be the 1080i model.
In that case, it wouldn't be all that suited to retro gaming.
Unless it was capable of genuine multiple resolutions/refresh rates like most HD RPTVs.

[Anonymous No.6333382]

>>6333379
as far as I know toshiba didn't produce any 4:3 CRT HDTVs. Could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.6333392]

anyone got experience with these Portable TVs?

[Anonymous No.6333417]

Anyone know where I can buy a replacement tube shipping to Aus? Money isn't an issue, usual supplier won't ship anything this large unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.6333457]

>>6331824
I have my eyes on a Sony wega for cheap but the guy that's selling it will be away for like a week. For now I got a simple Phillips 14" mono for less than 10 ameribucks and I'm having a blast.

>tfw the snes looks new
>tfw the controllers are in mint condition
>tfw I could play fighter's history for the first time not emulated and hear the MIZOGUUCHII WIIIN
>tfw all the games I got for me and the ones to gift to my bro were working fine

[Anonymous No.6334549]

>>6331907
You also can check Retro Tech channel on youtube. Steve specialize in repairing PVMs.

[Anonymous No.6335306]

>>6333392
i love those early 2000s portable tvs and their size, a few brands of those cut off some of the pixels in the corners by like rounding them off with black which i didnt like, and some of them had a flat glass screen instead of a curved one, some were black and some were silver, theres a bunch of pros and cons to look into with each. also i believe they all only take composite video also.

[Anonymous No.6335341]

>>6335306
Was thinking of picking up the one I posted. It’s $20 but I might try to get a better deal. It main draw is it’s car adapter but I want to put it on a desk to play some PSX or 64 or something.

[Anonymous No.6335598]

>>6333392
Looks like a sensible solution to the PVM meme.

[Anonymous No.6335631]

So I found a 60" Sony Grand Wega on craigslist for free. How would I even move this thing? I have no friends. Just hire movers?

[Anonymous No.6335642]

>>6335631
You don't know anyone who can be bribed with 40 bucks and a six pack of beer?

[Anonymous No.6335729]

>>6335631
Grand WEGA are not CRT.

[Anonymous No.6335737]

>>6335642
I don't have any degenerate broke friends that would do something for $40.00. I don't have any friends period.

>>6335729
well shit