/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.630258]

What filter do you personally recommend and use for games? (preferably a pastebin with the source or a link or a name)

I tried the NTSC filter in that link (http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Shaders_and_Filters)) floating around and I just end up with this shit and I doubt it'd be any good in color anyways.

The good filters are the ones I see posted in filter threads on and on again and no one ever responds to requests for them.

[Anonymous No.630268]

>naming a character after yourself

[Anonymous No.630272]

Shut the fuck up kiddo
Back in my day we had only one color-
Purple.
It's the way the devs intended it to be played so suck it up buddy and enjoy your authentic experience.

[Anonymous No.630286]

>>630268

>not naming your party after yourself and your friends

Do you even fun?

[Anonymous No.630284]

>>630272
Back in my day we didn't have pixels and the only color was white, pussy

[Anonymous No.630307]

Me? I put on specialized sunglasses that I removed the shields from and replaced them with pieces of broken TV screen.

[Anonymous No.630309]

>>630286

[Anonymous No.630323]

>>630286
>friends

If I had friends I wouldn't be playing a JRPG.

[Anonymous No.630326]

>>630284
>using filters

[Anonymous No.630332]

>>630326

[Anonymous No.630339]

>>630326
Filters are great if you don't want to see a mess of sharp pixels. It's the same reason I like anti-aliasing in 3D games.

[Anonymous No.630351]

Is this a new hit me me?

[Anonymous No.630369]

>>630351
What the fuck about that post looked like it was trying to start a meme? holy fuck

[Anonymous No.630384]

I prefer the retroarch sal2x2x-tv-ntsc-svideo-rgb-scanline-cuda-opengl-opencl shader for music, myself.

>pic related

[Anonymous No.630395]

>>630384
My eye cancer just metastasized

[Anonymous No.630406]

>>630384
>SONIC CD
>ZSNES

[Anonymous No.630408]

>>630384
Anything other than the advance-livingroom-window-glareX4 is pleb tier

[Anonymous No.630446]

>bNES v83

Use Nestopia instead, it's emulation is more accurate, it supports more mappers, and the colors are more accurate to how the NES looked on average TV sets. It's also the only NES core in RetroArch that has functioning FDS emulation.

[Anonymous No.630471]

>Filter
it's not that hard:
1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCQJ1DOaYiI

Don't forget:
1) there was different kind of monitor or TV
2) you are supposed to be at 2 meters approximatly of the screen.

[Anonymous No.630478]

2/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyBWTt9sp0g

[Anonymous No.630482]

3/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8IEwBo6VUA

[Anonymous No.630483]

>>630284
But Cranky Kong, we did well on Gameboy!

[Anonymous No.630484]

4/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LCqJGdonAM

[Anonymous No.630486]

5/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PhT9Q10Eo

[Anonymous No.631272]

Unfiltered graphics are a pixelated mess.
Notice how the sign is unreadable.

[Anonymous No.631281]

>>631272
The NTSC filter gives a readable sign and an overall better images, similar to what the developers intended.

[Anonymous No.631286]

>>631272
>>631281
There was a point where this shit needed to stop and we've clearly passed it.

[Anonymous No.631313]

>>631286
make me, bitch

[Anonymous No.631318]

>>631313
Go play on a busy highway

[Anonymous No.631327]

>>631318

[Anonymous No.631340]

>>631272
>notice how the sign is unreadable

This is satire, right?

[Anonymous No.631345]

>>630284

[Anonymous No.631348]

>>630408
What the fuck is this game?

[Anonymous No.631359]

More important than filters is to use the correct aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.631365]

Why all these filter threads are the same? Same posts, images and all

[Anonymous No.631372]

The best filter is Pixellate. Allows for non-integer scales and non-square pixels while hiding rounding errors.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/21199

[Anonymous No.631376]

>>631359
Yes, I know you're samefagging, no need to pull out all of your bullets.

[Anonymous No.631378]

>>631272
But the sign is readable

[Anonymous No.631409]

>>631359

Here's another example

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/22712

[Anonymous No.631423]

>>631409
THE HORROR, THE TRIFORCE IS ENLARGED A SLIGHT BIT, OH GOD

[Anonymous No.631435]

>>631423

>not playing games the way developers intended

[Anonymous No.631438]

>>631435
>being this autistic

[Anonymous No.631447]

>>631438
>being this /v/

please leave

[Anonymous No.631448]

>>631423

Triforce is supposed to be equilateral, and it's definitely not on 8:7. 4:3 may be slightly off a little bit but looks close enough. I noticed that higan's Aspect Correction is slightly narrower than 4:3 and the Triforce looks even more equilateral

[Anonymous No.631452]

>>631438
and back to /v/ you go

[Anonymous No.631456]

>>631365

>Why all these filter threads are the same? Same posts, images and all

WHAT? ARE YOU A FOOL OR SOMETHING? HOW COULD YOU DARE TO THINK SUCH THING?

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/image/VIRDOc-Vwn5e--F__HlkhQ/

http://archive.foolz.us/vr/search/image/MdEmLpKwaIqyiKLGkJStLg/

[Anonymous No.631480]

[Spoiler] you can only see scanlines on CRTVs when you take a picture of one. I don't know why you people insist on playing with visible scanlines on purpose [/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.631487]

>>631480

That's absolutely false and based on misconceptions over the difference between 480i and 240p

[Anonymous No.631497]

>>631480
http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/

[Anonymous No.631498]

>>631480
Nostalgiafaggots think they are playing the authentic way by shitting all over their computer screen.

>>631487
Choke on a dick.

[Anonymous No.631512]

>>631456

oh wow

[Anonymous No.631518]

>>631498

>Choke on a dick

Nice argument.

Next time, make your samefagging less obvious.

[Anonymous No.631520]

>>631480

It's not exactly that you're seeing scanlines one by one, it's that you're seeing the effect they have on the picture

[Anonymous No.631524]

>>631480
No, you can only see scanlines on a CRT television when you feed it a non-standard 262-line progressive signal. You know, like a video game.

[Anonymous No.631529]

>>631480
This has got to be THE PERFECT TROLL.

In an ordinary case, you'd just prove him wrong by taking a picture of the screen so he can see the scanlines. What now, though? A genlocked video of a CRT?

[Anonymous No.631532]

>>631456

This is pathetic

[Anonymous No.631538]

>>631518
>he doesnt even know how to check for samefag

Sorry, I forget to care enough to compile a huge list of all the reasons you are a retarded piece of shit for wanting to crap all over the visuals of a game, because fuck appreciating all the work the visual artists put on, I'm going to slap on some horizontal lines that shit tvs from decades ago used to have so I can pretend it gives me a sense of nostalgia.

I fucking love /vr/ but the scanline faggots are beyond infuriating, I seriously hope you delusional assholes all get cancer somehow.

[Anonymous No.631543]

I just used super eagle on FFV Advance

>inb4 /vr/ hates on me.

I need a filter. playing that game fullscreen hurts me eyes otherwise. too colorful and bright.

[Anonymous No.631553]

>>631538
>I forget to care enough to compile a huge list of all the reasons

Translation: I have no reasons that aren't subjective

Just fuck off you elitist pixel purist piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.631562]

>>631543
> hurts me eyes otherwise. too colorful and bright.

Unless you have some kind of medical condition, this is beyond retarded.

[Anonymous No.631564]

>>631447
>>631452
well that is a high level of autism to sperg out over a pixel or 2. So chill out with the autism since not everyone cares about pixels to the utmost detail.

it's annoying and derails threads with trolling and bait.

[Anonymous No.631568]

>>631524
And when it's an aperture grille. Otherwise they'll be barely noticeable.

[Anonymous No.631560]

>>631456

Good ol' foolz doing the job again

[Anonymous No.631561]

>>631538
I use consoles with their intended display device. Sorry if that upsets you.

[Anonymous No.631575]

>>631561
>intended display device

You have 5 seconds to prove that any retro games were made with scanlines in mind.

>>631553
>I have no reasons that aren't subjective

Please shower me with your objective reasoning anon.

>using purist as an insult

amazing

[Anonymous No.631580]

>>631564
>not understanding what the original conversation was about
>just tries to derail it with the word "autism"
>Still hasn't gone back to /v/

[Anonymous No.631587]

>>631568
Yes, the combination of a coarse slot-mask (or classic RGB triad) and poor focus will obscure them. It's difficult to find a high-quality (bright, good geometry, stable picture, lots of inputs) TV with that "problem", though. Usually, when you buy a high-quality screen, it's razor-sharp and the scanlines stand out.

[Anonymous No.631592]

>>631575

I'm not the one raging over scanlines for retarded reasons, and it's already proven that 240p output has visible scanlines on average CRTs.

[Anonymous No.631605]

>>631592
>umad

>its already proven

Where?

[Anonymous No.631608]

>>631575
>You have 5 seconds to prove that any retro games were made with scanlines in mind.
Nearly all CRT televisions exhibit them when used with a pseudo-240p source. CRT was the top-selling display technology until 2007. Ergo, the games were expected to be displayed with scanlines. Developers are not blind to how their games are consumed. (Look at how meticulous VALVe is with the differing gamma curves on consoles vs. PCs, for a modern example).

[Anonymous No.631613]

>>631575

Rondo of Blood, the text on the HUD looks wrong without scanlines.

[Anonymous No.631614]

>>631456

DAS IT MAYNE

[Anonymous No.631618]

>>631340
>>631378
>>631286
If you guys would stop replying to it he would stop posting it in every thread that mentions the word filter.

[Anonymous No.631619]

>>631605

http://scanlines.hazard-city.de/demystified.html

[Anonymous No.631629]

>>631618

Well, shit; so if I happen to make a Syphon Filter thread in /vr/, he will post those pics?

[Anonymous No.631631]

>>631605
Where exactly does it say that games were designed with scanlines intended?

[Anonymous No.631642]

>>631631

It's inferred, because almost all consumer TVs have visible scanlines to some degree on 240p output that most consoles and arcades used.

[Anonymous No.631638]

>>631613
Post proof.

[Anonymous No.631640]

>>631587
>implying lack of noticeable scanlines is a problem

I just like straight pictures.

[Anonymous No.631660]

>>631642
Again, post proof.

[Anonymous No.631680]

>>631660

Post proof that the weren't, first.
You're the one who made the first claim

[Anonymous No.631683]

Hey anon who posts all the filter shit, can you get a trip? So I can filter you

[Anonymous No.631695]

Spoiler: Most emu authors are filter fags, and prefer NTSC filters or even smoothing filters.

[Anonymous No.631703]

>>631562
says "you", you bumfucked whorebag.
try it out and see for yourself and you'll know it.

game was made with GBA in mind, a goddamn handheld on a damn tiny screen, you retarded cockbag.

now if it was the SNES version it would be a complete different debate, you stupid shitbag.

[Anonymous No.631721]

>>631660
Do you see the monitor that he's testing on?

It's not a high-res graphic display, it's a BROADCAST MONITOR. THE SAME ONES PEOPLE HERE USE.

[Anonymous No.631725]

>>631272
>Notice how the sign is unreadable
>sign is completely readable without the filter

>mfw

[Anonymous No.631739]

>>631703

>game was made with GBA in mind

This is true, most GBA games pushed brightness and saturation really high to compensate for the fact the GBA screen was dark and had a terrible color gamut.
VBA-M has a "Game Boy Colors" option to compensate for the GBA screen colors so you can see what the graphics were supposed to look like.

[Anonymous No.631746]

>>631721
But then again, they were making games for the people, and people didn't have those broadcast monitors. The point is kind of moot.

[Anonymous No.631769]

>>631739
I'll search this filter and hope its a good compensation for what I'm using right now. thanks for telling me about that.

[Anonymous No.631794]

lel filter fags lel

[Anonymous No.631804]

>>631794
>image macros

>>>/b/
>>>/s4s/

[Anonymous No.631819]

>>631580
Yah bruh but I wont be going back to /v/. This is the board I hang on now. /v/ is a mess of shit and piss. This at least has good content except for the assholes being way to caught up in their "the way developers intended" approach. reminds me of those witness religious jerks that go door to door and are all up in your shit with it cuz you dont beleive the same. so yes I will be fine reading right here thanks. if you want to leave be my guest. I've learn'd the types of people to be quick to yell off to /v/ are usually the trolls themselves. well convo's over dont bother replying.

[Anonymous No.631830]

>>631804

>>>/out/

[Anonymous No.631850]

[Anonymous No.631864]

>>631850
I laugh'd harder then I should have at this. I know someones' autisming out over this right now. GRR ARRR THATS NOT !! IT LOOKS! OMFG!

[Anonymous No.631906]

>>631819
>convo's over dont bother replying.

[Anonymous No.631923]

>>631850
Perfect.

[Anonymous No.631936]

>>631739
Retro Arch has a gamma ramp filter that really helps GBA emulation by reducing the heavy brightness it has and making some of the fainter colors stand out more

[Anonymous No.631948]

>>630384
somehow SONIC CD THE HEDGEHOG was what pissed me off the most from your post

[Anonymous No.631962]

>>630408
Did someone seriously go through the effort of drawing up that whole Jungle Swing-style screenshot just to piss on filters?

[Anonymous No.632008]

If you don't use filters you are retarded. You are not watching the graphics that the artists created.

[Anonymous No.632012]

>>631359
>mfw i played ct for the first time using zsnes with picture stretched to 16:9 and thought everything looked wrong after enabling aspect ratio preservation in the middle of my playthrough

[Anonymous No.632018]

>>632008
Those are both graphics that the artist created; manipulating the image is creating its own version.

[Anonymous No.632034]

>>631948
It's symbolic: one of the most heated argument on /vr/ are Sonic CD's soundtracks.

sage because I don't want to spawn that argument right here

[Anonymous No.632038]

>>632008
>using filters instead of scanlines

[Anonymous No.632050]

>>632008
except that's only the ntsc color hue, you don't actually need bilinear

[Anonymous No.632046]

>>632018
The artist didn't intend for the graphics to be watched as a pixelated mess. He took into account that they'd be displayed on a TV. The filter recreates the graphics as the artist created them.

[Anonymous No.632058]

>>632008
inb4 a faggot claiming your eyes do the filtering for the pixel mess at the intended distance for playing

[Anonymous No.632071]

>>632008
Try posting a comparison where the two screenshots are actually of equal resolution.

[Anonymous No.635562]

>>632071
>what is scaling filter

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