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6295502 No.6295502 [Reply] [Original]

Why was everyone in the fifth gen so obsessed with "muh grafix" that they abandoned old genres of games, and championed games like Toshindin and Ridge Racer over Virtua Fighter and Daytona on Saturn on the basis of graphics alone?

>> No.6295510

>>6295502
>Virtua Fighter
Inferior port.
>Daytona
Inferior port.
Saturn has no games.

>> No.6295512

Because people love novelty because it's the ultimate shallow quick gratification. They like their shiny brand new toys more than anything else and will get obsessed with it at the detriment of the games themselves. This was true then and it's still true now, except it was more prominent back then because 3D made a huge difference in countless ways.

>> No.6295513

>>6295502
Don't ask me, I never got the appeal of those sort of ugly, empty games.

>> No.6295514
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6295514

>>6295510
Based.

>> No.6295517

>>6295510
Despite being inferior ports of arcade games Daytona and Virtua Fighter were still infinitely superior even on Saturn to their respective "killers" on PSX.

>> No.6295531

10 years playing platformers so seeing 3d you just imagined these scenarios about exploring these worlds, this was before learning of invisible walls and other issues.

>> No.6295535

>championed games like Toshindin and Ridge Racer
They were release titles. That's about it. Toshinden was forgotten about the second just about any other fighter got ported, and Ridge Racer was forgotten the moment Gran Turismo was released. Why are zoomers so obsessed about trying to make up history they weren't alive for?

>> No.6295667

>>6295502
I was one of those kids
>graphix>games
And then i discovered PSX emulation and I never looked back.

>> No.6295684

>>6295502
The transition to 3d wasn't just a matter of graphics, it allowed for completely different types of games than were previously possible. And frankly a lot of the early 3d games sucked because nobody knew how to make them yet. Hell, if graphics ability (3d or 2d) had been the primary concern the Playstation wouldn't have won that generation.

>> No.6295784

Many developers, even more so than the publishers, wanted to explore and develop new and fresh gameplay mechanics that the 3rd dimension offered. Too bad it cut off the developers that still wanted to explore and build on what came before, but it was somewhat necessary for the medium to continue evolving.
3D sold systems at the time, of course console developers wanted to push that.

>> No.6295954
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>>6295502

>> No.6295957

>>6295954
Fucking stupid.

>> No.6295989

>>6295535
Hey, Ridge Racer wasn't forgotten. It's still a really cool game.

>> No.6296003

>>6295684
>>6295531
These, plus no small amount of magazine hype.

>> No.6296101

>>6295954
The ones for the Saturn should be rectangles.

>> No.6296107

>>6295514
Why is the bernieposter always in every single Saturn thread? Almost like if he has an alarm telling him whenever someone makes a Saturn-related thread.
Get a life.

>> No.6296118

>>6295502
You really had to see games go from 2D to 3D for the first time. Remember we are talking about the casual market. Most people didn't game on pc.

>> No.6296126

>>6295502
From the sound of your delusional opinion, I sincerely doubt you were even alive when any of this happened. Go to bed child.

>> No.6296165

>>6296126
Do you feel superior for being closer to death, grandpa? By your fallacious logic historians shouldn't exist since they weren't even alive when any of the stuff they study happened.

>> No.6296170

>>6296118
True 3d games were pretty new even on PC when the 5th gen consoles came out.

>> No.6296178

>>6296165
By my logic, OP is pulling incorrect ideas out of his ass because he has nothing better to do, or simply can't fathom why people like games over other games besides visuals. And then he states these udiotic ideas as facts on a public forum. All of these point to him (presumably you) being a 12 year old with autism.

>> No.6296208

>>6296118
Must have been marketing. Some of the first games I ever owned were somewhat boring 3d flight sims, I didn't think anything of them. They were ok time wasters. I then played a proper 2d game flight game, Afterburner (which was probably 8 years old at the time) at an arcade and was blown away by how much better it was than any of my flight games. I was too young to be reading magazines trying to sell people on ugly games, though.

>> No.6296217

>>6296178
Nothing OP said is even wrong though, magazines touted Battle Arena Toshindin as the Virtua Fighter killer just because it was flashier. 2D games were dead and not missed.

>> No.6296234

>>6295514
Why do anti-Saturnfags post this guy, he's one of the reasons the NA Saturn has a lacking library. He also tried to block 2D games from coming onto the PS1, fuck (((Stolar))).

>> No.6296238

>>6296217
The main reason anyone ever cared about Virtua Fighter in the first place was that it was a 3d game.

>> No.6296245

>>6296234
>anti-Saturnfags
It's always the same guy.

>> No.6296247

>>6296238
Thank you for confessing you haven't played VF or toshindin.

>> No.6296253

>>6296247
I've played VF, I never did play Toshinden. But I do remember Virtua Fighter's arcade popularity being tied strongly to it being the first 3d fighter.

>> No.6296259

>>6296247
>>6296253
It's true. Graphics are always the main reason of attraction, most of the times anyway. And especially when VF came out, that was mind-blowing.
However, VF continued to get releases, and gathered a cult following, because the gameplay is also good.
Toshinden was just meh and it's why it didn't develop a real fanbase.

>> No.6296394

>>6295514
bernieposter fuck off

>> No.6296468

>>6295510
A lot of classic PSX games were inferior arcade ports as well. Tekken, Ridge Racer. But it’s more obvious to you when it’s SEGA, right?

>> No.6296479

>>6295502
Marketing.

>> No.6296904

>>6296468
The differences between the arcade versions of Tekken and Ridge Racer versus Playstation are minimal in comparison.

>> No.6296917

>>6295502
only zoomys would ask such a stupid question.
going from 2d to 3d at that time was a big deal so everyone was obsessed with it cuz it was new and a big deal. if you have to ask you're probably 17 or under

>> No.6296978

>>6296101
and they are