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Despite having the smallest library of any nintendo console and slowest framerate it is still considered the best of all time. Why is that?

>> No.6274770

N64 is far from being my favorite system (although I do have many fav games on it).
But one of the reasons I love it so much besides of being the last major home console with carts, is that it lives rent free insides of so many people like OP.

>> No.6274772

it has good games

>> No.6274773

>>6274765
Genuine case of nostalgia faggotry.

>> No.6274779

>>6274765
>slowest framerate

Have you played F Zero X?

>> No.6274787

>>6274765
Only zoomers whose first console was the N64 consider it the best, OP.

>> No.6274790
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>>6274765
This is the entire n64 library to give people an example of how small it is.

>> No.6274792

N64 is considered better than the SNES and NES ? Wow, thats news to me.

>> No.6274797

>>6274792
I mean yeah. N64 games out rank SNES games and NES games on every review site.

>> No.6274804

>>6274790
Take away ports and its even smaller

>> No.6274805

N64 isn't even the most fondly remembered Nintendo console, let alone market-wide where any PlayStation would probably beat it in a survey with a large and varied enough sample size. The only people who think N64 is best are a specific set of mid-late millennials who were slightly too young for SNES and couldn't fuck with Sony because they didn't have a lot of the superficial aspects that Nintendo and Sega thrived on, like mascots or more flamboyant hardware aesthetics.

>> No.6274807

>>6274792
Snes didnt have pokemon or tony hawk or banjo kazooie.

>> No.6274815
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>>6274765
It's arguable. The Playstation kicked its ass bigtime that generation. The lack of games is a problem. Also, graphically looks like total shit unless you upscale and yeah it looks like shit on CRT too. In summary : it's shit and the only Nintendo console I ever passed on, besides the Switch, which I'll get eventually.

>> No.6274817

>>6274765
SNES, Wii, GameCube are considered the best. N64 is controversial console.

>> No.6274818

>>6274807
Neither have real Pokemon games. N64 lets you fight with your pokemon in pokemon stadium, but SNES lets you play the entire game via Super Gameboy.

>>6274815
It looks fine on a CRT, and much better on average than the Playstation. Everyone was all about the N64 until the PS2 came out because it not only had 4 controller slots, but nearly every single multiplayer game supported it. Back when online play was laggy as shit, this was huge and everyone loved it.

>> No.6274820

>>6274818
You could play the entire game in gameboy tower in pokemon stadium.

>> No.6274824

Saturn>N64>>>>PS
5th gen was weak, but still better than subsequent generations at least.

>> No.6274827

>>6274817
>N64 is controversial console.

Its like the Donald Trump of game consoles. Even when people hate on it it still comes out on top.

>> No.6274830

I can understand not having it as a favorite, but people who pretend to hate it are mostly posers, or console warriors.
N64 has a lot of great games that are still unmatched.
Wave Race 64 is one of the best experiences of that generation, and its 6th gen sequel couldn't match it.

>> No.6274834
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>>6274817
>Wii, GameCube are considered the best
are we really at this point

>> No.6274839

>>6274827
With help from propaganda and tampering — so, yes, good analogy

>> No.6274878

>>6274818
God, I remember having to buy multitaps for PS1 and PS2 and it sucked. I specifically remember buying a PS2 multitap from EB and it had all sorts of ridiculous "features" listed, like they were trying their best to say as many good things about it as possible. I remember one of them was "automatic system detection".....uh, yeah, it's a fucking multitap, it plugs into the controller port, of course the system is going to automatically detect it.

>> No.6274881

>>6274878
PS1 sucked, but some top tier PS2 games supported it, like the Timesplitters games and Twisted Metal.

>> No.6274948

>>6274765
>getting autismal about how the 64 had a small library when the average kid back then received 2-4 games a year at most
>zoomers will never understand the appeal of playing multiplayer games in person rather than the faceless and impersonal era of online gaming
Kind of sad desu.

>> No.6274954

>>6274765
>the best of all time
Says who?

>> No.6274964

Each Nintendy system got worse and worse as time went on, just like with each Playstation.

Sega on the other hand flip flopped on bad and good systems (SMS was shit, MD was good, Saturn was shit, DC was good but died too soon).

>> No.6274969

>>6274818
>It looks fine on a CRT, and much better on average than the Playstation
The best-looking games on both consoles look about equally amazing. Early poly era was the height of 3D digital art, even though a lot of what makes it great is an unintentional consequence of technological limitations, and it absolutely requires a good CRT

>> No.6274971

It's all subjective anyway. It's my favorite 5th gen console, and I have about 70 games that I could list that I love for it.

>> No.6274972

>>6274815
Ill never understand this lack of games shit, the N64 had easily the best game for each genre in its generation, with the addition that most of its games had 4 people multiplayer, which adds 10000x in replayability.
Lets list some of N64 games that are the best of its generation:
Perfect Dark/GoldenEye/Turok 2
Mario 64/Banjo Kazooie/Conker's Bad Fur Day
Ocarina of Time/Majoras Mask/Ogre Battle 64
Mario Kart 64/Diddy Kong Racing/Snowboard Kids
Super Smash Bros./Mario Party
Star Fox 64
F-Zero X/Ridge Racer 64/Beetle Adventure Racing
ISSS2000/FIFA
1080 Snowboarding/Wave Race

This list has about 20 games, which are among the best in their respective genres in the 5th generation. Theres absolutely no need to have more games than this, you could play these games indefinitely and they would never get boring.

>> No.6274974

>>6274787
That’s boomer fav console after their done owning C64-GS, NES and TG-16

>> No.6274976

>>6274964
As SMS & Saturn fan from New Zealander land, I feel offended.

>> No.6274979

>>6274972
>best of its generation:
>F-Zero X
Fuck yeah
>Ridge Racer 64
Well... OK. RR1 on PS1 is better
>Beetle Adventure Racing
Oh, you might actually be retarded. There's a long list of amazing 5th gen racing games, but it doesn't include Beetle Adventure. Awful game

>> No.6274982

>>6274790
does that include non PAL games as well?

>> No.6274983

>>6274976
>As an SMS fan
... how?

>> No.6274992

>>6274964
>Each Nintendy system got worse and worse as time went on, just like with each Playstation.
In my opinion, both the NES/SNES and PS1/PS2 were both equally good. It went downhill after that. The N64 and PS3 had a habful of memorable classics that defined their generation, but were nowhere as impactful as their predecessors

>>6274972
>Ill never understand this lack of games shit,
N64: 388 games
PS1: 2413 games

>> No.6274998

>>6274992
>PS1: 2413 games
After I finished playing those first 1000 games I was so thankful to have the other 1413 left to play

>> No.6275014

>>6274954
Literally everyone who has played it.

>> No.6275015

Isn't it funny that every time an anti-N64 or anti-Saturn thread appears, there's always some quick posts by apparent pro-Sony boys comparing the libary or sales?

>> No.6275030

>>6275015
>anti-N64 or anti-Saturn thread
OP said it's the N64 is the best console of all times. How is this ''anti-N64'', dude?

>> No.6275034

>>6274805
>playstation didn’t have mascots
Do you even think before you type?

>> No.6275048

>>6275030
obviously false flag thread, are you new?
If you want people to discuss something, call it shit.
If you want people to shit on something, praise it.

>> No.6275052

>>6275030
OP already kicked the thread by mentioning one of Sonygger's favorite arguments (library quantity), and asks why is it considered "the best of all time" (as if there actually was an official consensus on what console is best of all time It's Famicom btw

>> No.6275079

>>6274765
I suspect nostalgia, it’s what they had as a kid so to them it is the best thing because it is representative of their childhood. People like a lot of crappy stuff when they are young, some people will look back and think to themselves “man that’s crap, what were we thinking?” Others will look back and defend thing vigorously because “muh childhood therefore it can’t possibly be bad”

>> No.6275081

>>6275048
If it's so obvious why do you bother replying?

>>6275052
>mentioning one of Sonygger's favorite arguments (library quantity),
That was me. Some anon asked why people say the N64 lacks games compared to the PS1 and I said that it's, because the PS1 has almost 2000 more games. No need to be so defensive about it. Console wars are fucking stupid

>> No.6275090

>>6275079
Its not only nostalgia when many N64 games are widely regarded as having set the groundwork for their genres in 3D games. See Zelda, GoldenEye, Mario 64.

>>6275081
Since youre autistic, Ill spell it out to you. The whole "no games" argument is usually brought into the context as a reason why the PS1 is supposedly better than the N64, when its irrelevant to the discussion. You can have as many shit games as you want, the handful gems the N64 has are better than every PS1 game combined. Its simple as that.

>> No.6275095

I have more favourite games on the N64 than the PS1, despite it’s library. Tbh, most games on the Playstation are pure shovelware. Having said that I would really miss not having the ability to play games like MGS, RE and Tekken.

>> No.6275098

Nostalgia faggotry, mostly due to a consistent style between games on the platform. It's iconic even though it's mostly mediocre.

>> No.6275121

>>6275090
>irrelevant to the discussion
He asked me a question and I answered it. No need to insult me by calling me autistic though

>> No.6275130

>>6274765
Only Zeldatards do. Everybody else consider it a mediocre or poor console.

>> No.6275136

>>6274964
>Each Nintendy system got worse and worse
Explain the Wii then, best console since the SNES

>> No.6275149

>>6274972
As long as you leave out more than half the genres available back then, sure. But what did N64 have to offer in terms of fighting games, RPGs, ARPGs, action games, anything 2D, anything akin to Tomb Raider, Metroidvanias, stealth, traditional platformers, non first person shooters, simulation games of any kind, survival horror (other than a bad sport of RE2), arcade style shooters (or arcade style anything), vehicle combat, shmups, and a lot more. The N64 was a small subset of genres with some OK games, but if you liked more than 4-5 core genres with 1-3 core games each, you were totally fucked. But it had OoT and Mario 64, so it gets a free pass from literal brainlets.

And your post even leaves out that N64 has the best wrestling games and ports of the best skateboarding games that gen. You forgot some of the better shit N64 had, and it's STILL trash compared to every other platform available at the time.

>> No.6275158

>>6275034
Just because a character like Crash or whatever attempted to be Sony's mascot doesn't mean any of them succeeded. These companies all had their own mascots of a sort but as far as the PlayStation console on its own went, it didn't have a true mascot.

>> No.6275176

>>6274765
Mario 64 and OOT lmao

>> No.6275182

>>6275136
Outside a few cool 'lightgun' games, the Wii's library sucked though.

>> No.6275186

>>6275182
Wii proved that while tons of hardware sale are great. You still can't best a nice steady stream of software sales.

>> No.6275229

>>6275136
Are you really ignoreing the amazing library of the gamecube and N64?

>> No.6275230

>>6275136
Barely any great games. There's No More Heroes, Rhythm Heaven; Galaxy 1&2 are great, but worse than Odyssey and Sunshine, and much worse than 64; DKC Returns is only good; Sin & Punishment isn't as good as its predecessor; Prime 3's worse than Prime; a good port of Cave Story; Twilight Princess is better on GC; Skyward Sword is atrocious; Bit.Trip Complete is good; Klonoa's a disappointing port. Am I missing anything? Xenoblade seems alright from what I played

Decent but underwhelming console

>> No.6275247

>>6274817
>Wii
Shelf decor
>GameCube
Literally Who: The Console

>> No.6275253
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>>6274972
OH NO NO NO PSXBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
But seriously, anybody that tries to argue that the N64's library is "too small" is absolutely utterly fucking retarded.
>BRO IT ONLY HAD LIKE 300 GAMES
>PSX WAY BETTER IT HAD LIKE 2000+
What fucking kid in the 90s had more than like 10-20 games for one console? The only people who bring up relative size of library on these consoles are people who don't even play video games. The second stat they'll show you is metacritic scores and the third is sales data, as if any of that matters at all.

>> No.6275260

>>6275253
>What fucking kid in the 90s had more than like 10-20 games for one console? The only people who bring up relative size of library
Us with modded PlayStations and that one Asian kid with a Game doctor Sf3 for the SNES

>> No.6275265

>>6274818
>Everyone was all about the N64 until the PS2 came out
The playstation sold 300% more units.

>> No.6275269

>>6275253
>>6275260
I had a modded PS1, but not being a fan of RPGs, most games I played on PS1 were shorter style arcade games, or some stuff like Resident Evil.
Most of the stuff I played on PS1 was bad or mediocre anime games actually.
I used the N64 way more, especially because of the multiplayer.

>> No.6275275

>>6275269
Shame you didn't play Pepsiman big hit here.

>> No.6275395

>>6274972
Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...

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>>6275395
>posts a list of games that aren't mario and zelda
>"Mario, Zelda, the list goes on..."
This is why nobody takes N64 haters seriously.
You're just projecting your limited knowledge of the N64's library onto the rest.

>> No.6275401

>>6274765
Good games

>> No.6275407

>>6274804
Taking away ports is stupid if you're going to discuss the system in a historical argument.

>> No.6275471

>>6275407
Ok autislord relax. None of the ports are better anyways

>> No.6275491

>>6275265
No one who's actually into gaming cares how many Wiis were sold to non-gamers. Playstation was the same deal.

>> No.6275495

>>6274765
quality over quantity

>> No.6275530

>>6275230
>Am I missing anything?
De Blob 2

>> No.6275559

>>6274765
>Plebs love it
it's nostalgia

>> No.6275568

>>6274765
Best Nintendo system in regards of multiplayer, but that's it. It's boring without cho frienz

>> No.6275572

I found it odd how the early games have a better framerate, the early games had that sgi smooth look to them too while later games started looking like bad pc ports sometime.

examples

turok - smooth
turok 2 - slow
turok 3 - smooth

Some of the worst were the star wars games, the first one ran ok but the sequals got worse as they went.

Then you have bad 3rd party games like glover and gex that are very slow. Many games have a good framerates buy if you pick a game at random you have a good chance of getting 20 fps or lower.

>> No.6275750

>>6274765
>Why is that?
zoomer nostalgia goggles

>> No.6275783

>>6274790
Get Jaz Cart or GD Rom on 64

>> No.6275830

>>6274787
Zoomers weren't born yet when 5th gen came out cuck

>> No.6275832

>>6274976
Me too, people missing out on the SMS & Saturn but let them judge their taste on sales

>> No.6275856

>>6275830
Gen Z started in '95.
Parents buy their ~4yo an N64 with SM64/Yoshi/Banjo/etc.
Do the math, moron.

>> No.6275859

>>6274824
>saturn
>muh weeb dating sim!
How to spot a loser

>> No.6275864

>>6274815
I don't think you know what the word Arguable means.

>> No.6275884

>>6274815
I mean yeah if you played shooters and rpgs mostly I could see why someone would say ps1 was flatout better. n64 was all about the platformers and 4 player party games

>> No.6275889

>>6275158
>no true scotsman

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>>6274765
>Despite having the smallest library of any nintendo console

>> No.6275895

>>6275856
Gen Z actually started in ’97 and while some may have grown up with a N64 most of them grew up with a gen six console.

>> No.6275896

>>6274972
Fag

>> No.6275904

>>6275572
Turok 2 was the best one though. According to review sites. Speed doesnt equal better

>> No.6275906

>>6275904
Smash bros 64 is by far the worse. If you get knocked off a stage it almost crashes. Sooo bad

>> No.6275925

>>6274765
I had an n64 for a long while before I got my first playstation, and even in my hazy nostalgia filled memories the ps1 kicked the n64's ass ten ways to sunday.
The moment we got a ps1 and I popped in mega man x4, a NON 3D GAME that nintendo was so damn proud of with the n64 (without a memory card! the idea of not being able to save without a memory card blew our minds back then) we never touched our n64 again.

>> No.6276067

>>6275925
>we never touched our n64 again
Fake and gay

>> No.6276134

>>6274765
A huge amount of
1. Groundbreaking multiplayer games
2. Groundbreaking singleplayer games
In that order.

>> No.6276138

>>6274998
This, kek

>> No.6276141

>>6275906
Never happened.

>> No.6276142

>>6274773
Project harder, fag.

>> No.6276147

>>6274818
>Neither have real Pokemon games. N64 lets you fight with your pokemon in pokemon stadium, but SNES lets you play the entire game via Super Gameboy.
Perfect case of consolewar Snoy faggotry right here. You clearly never played the game or else you wouldn't have made the most retarded comment in this thread.

>> No.6276151

>>6275889
No it's not, moron. Crash was never PS1's mascot, regardless of using him heavily in promoting the system.

>> No.6276157

>>6274779
No. /thread

>> No.6276159

>>6274790
And still has more good games than PS1 does.

>> No.6276429

>>6276141
You never played it then.

>> No.6277235

>>6275830
And yet zoomers constantly larp about growing up with nes shit