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Just picked up a Sega Saturn, what are some great games to try?

>> No.6263802

>>6263793
NiGHTS
Sexy Parodius
Primal Rage (Arcade port, but it's the best one there is)
Metal Slug (second only to the Neo-Geo as long as you have a 4MB RAM expansion)
Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus
Saturn Bomberman (10 player support with 2 multitaps!)
Daytona USA Circuit Edition (stay away from the first release, it really sucks)

>> No.6263807

Elevator Action Returns, Bulk Slash, Cotton 2 and Cotton Boomerang, Power Slave

>> No.6263974
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Powerslave
In the Hunt
Radiant Silvergun
Shinobi Legends
Shienryu
Assault Suit Leyons 2
Nights into Dreams
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru
Dragon Force 2&3
Skeleton Warriors

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Panzer Dragoon II Zwei

>> No.6263986

>>6263974
Powerslave looks dope

>> No.6263991
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>> No.6263994

Get a Pseudo Saturn cart and get ready to burn some games.
Sonic Jam
Powerslave
Panzer Dragoon Series
Magical Knight Rayearth
Deep Fear and RE1 for classic survival horror
Vampire Savior
Dead or Alive
Mega Man 8
Puyo Puyo Tsu
Enemy Zero
DonDonPachi

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>>6263986
And it is.

>> No.6264030

>>6263994
>Get a Pseudo Saturn cart
I have one of the red carts you can buy from AliExpress and eBay, the model with both RAM expansion and memory card. It works great, and it comes with PseudoSaturn Kai preinstalled.

>> No.6264037

>>6264018
Sucks that it doesn't support the Shuttle Mouse, I wish there were more interest and knowledge in making Saturn hacks so that could be added.

>> No.6264045 [DELETED] 

>>6263991
this dumb chart so much

>> No.6264048
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>>6264030
Whats the difference of the red ones and this

>> No.6264051

>>6264048
Just wait for the Satiator. It's already in Beta and will probably be out later this year.

>> No.6264052

>>6264048
The red cartridge retains the memory card function even when you have PseudoSaturn flashed onto it, you switch between the two RAM expansion sizes and memory card using a physical switch.

>> No.6264057

>>6264051
The satiator can't possibly retain 100% compatibility since it goes into the Video CD port instead of connecting to the optical drive's ports, just like the PSIO for PS1. And you'll still need a RAM expansion for some games anyway, which is part of the red card.

>> No.6264060

>>6264030
Then get ready to have fun anon, the arcadey focus of some Saturn games make them easy to pick up and play.

>>6264048
You can play burnt games on Pseudo Saturn, where as the action replay 4-in-1 can only bypass region locks and back up game data, while having the RAM expansion built in.

>> No.6264063

>>6264060
You flash PseudoSaturn onto the Action Replay, but it's better to get one of the red carts instead since the memory card function on the Action Replay won't work if you have PseudoSaturn on it.

>> No.6264067

>>6264060
>Then get ready to have fun anon
Just wanna mention that the one you replied to there wasn't the OP.

>> No.6264080

>>6264060
I just saw some guy selling action replay plus on ebay. He said in the disruption it makes you able to play burnt games. It has the new version of kai on it and its better than the red,cart.

>> No.6264097

>>6264080
>its better than the red,cart
How?

>> No.6264110

>>6264097
When i get home in an hour. Ill take a picture of it.

>> No.6264114

>>6264110
Can you explain how the Action Replay Plus with PseudoSaturn is better than the red cartridge with PseudoSaturn?

>> No.6264147

>>6264114
I was going to take a picture of the guys description . i cant find it on ebay. On my phone.

>> No.6264164

>>6264147
how it is better?

>> No.6264283
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>>6264097

>> No.6264291

>>6264283
He's just claiming that it's more reliable than the red carts, which is something that we won't really know for sure until the red carts have been out for a while. Also, the Action Replay Plus doesn't retain the memory card function when PseudoSaturn has been flashed to it, but there's a model of red cart which has such a feature.

>> No.6264401

How picky is the saturn with burnt games? If I buy some cheap blank CDs at the store and use imgburn to put bin/cue files on them will they work?

>> No.6264550

>>6264283
that doesn't have 1/4mb switch that is vital for SNK games.

>> No.6264553

>>6263793
Die hard arcade

>> No.6264556

>>6264401
I think you'll be fine if you just set the write speed to 4x. Some games come in this weird multidisk format like mdf/mds which Imgburn doesn't seem to like, and I could never properly convert them to bin/cue on that program without getting a corrupted file. Converting to bin/cue with Alcohol 52% worked fine for me though.

>> No.6264658

Why would you buy a console with no idea of what games to play on it? Sounds like someones a braindead consumer

>> No.6264674

>>6264550
i see.. this is problematic..

>>6264291
i dont own a saturn yet. but is there another way to save games in saturn. it has internal storage right ? or is there another slot for a memory card?

>> No.6264753

>>6264674
Saturn has built in internal storage, and in case the internal battery dies resulting in missing saves its just as easy as opening the back add-on port. It's not much space, but I think there's external memory cards, too.

>> No.6264764

>>6264051
Why would you suggest this? All anon has to do is one swap trick and he has a modded console with this. Yea he has to use burnt discs instead of sd card, but these are like 20 bucks and you still retain ram expansion.

>> No.6264765

Cotton Boomerang

>> No.6264767

>>6264057
The only games that use that port are shitty weeb games anyhow, most of which are purely moonrunes.

>> No.6264794

>>6264753
>but I think there's external memory cards, too
Yes, and both the Action Replay Plus and the some models of the red cartridge have that built in, but on the Action Replay Plus it gets disabled if you install PseudoSaturn on it.
>>6264767
No, there's quite a few games well-liked outside of Japan that support it, such as Metal Slug, Groove on Fight and all of the King of Fighters games.
https://segaretro.org/Extended_RAM_Cartridge

>> No.6264797

>>6263793
Break it for viewer on YouTube.

Asian Americans and random black otaku did it.

>> No.6264803

>>6264767
>shitty weeb
Kys sub human waste of air.

>> No.6264816

>>6264051
>Just wait for the Satiator.
kek
>It's already in Beta
>already
KEK

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>>6264550
>>6264291

it says it does it all

>> No.6264825

>>6264820
Yes, but the memory card feature stops working once you have flashed PseudoSaturn onto it.

>> No.6264835

>>6263802
>Sexy Parodius, Primal Rage, Metal Slug, Salamander, Daytona
>>6263807
>Elevator Action Returns, Cotton 2 and Cotton Boomerang
>>6263974
>In the Hunt
>>6263994
>DonDonPachi
Why do Saturn owners always recommend inferior ports for games that are better played as their original version?
You don't see N64 owners recommending the Gauntlet Legends port in every N64 thread, or PS1 owners recommending King of Fighters '95 in every PS1 thread.
But in every Saturn thread, there are always a massive amount of inferior ports recommended. It's sad, really.

>> No.6264845

>>6264835
>Why do Saturn owners always recommend inferior ports for games that are better played as their original version?
All the games I mentioned are arcade ports Sexy Parodius is equal to the PSX port I guess. Primal Rage is maybe tied with the 3DO port, and it's not even possible to emulate the original arcade version in MAME since the copy protection is uncracked to this day. Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus is a collection of arcade ports which was also on the PSX, pretty much equal ports. Daytona USA was created by Sega and therefore obviously not ported to PSX or N64.

>> No.6264885

>>6264845
Primal Rage is very much playable on MAME

>> No.6264887

>>6264885
Source? I can't find any news on the encryption being finally cracked.

>> No.6264890

>>6263793
Super Robot Taisen F/F Final

>> No.6264905

>>6264845
It's been playable for over a decade now.
Heck, here's a cringe playtrough video uploaded in 2007:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RauIneY6jAQ

Here's Primal Rage 2 for that matter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoadscC_ySM

>> No.6264927

dumb question but how do you burn games with audio tracks?

I just got one of those PseudoSaturn and can burn games with just an ISO but when they also have a bunch of audio tracks, there is no music if I just burn the ISO. This happened when I tried to burn Batsugun. Thanks!

>> No.6264930

>>6264927
You gotta download a bin/cue rip, this applies to all CD based consoles. It's one or more BIN files and then one CUE-file, you select the CUE-file when you burn the disc, just make sure all files are in the same folder.

>> No.6264941

>>6264930
Thanks man.

What if there is no BIN file? I downloaded Gunstar Heroes and it has a bunch of mp3s, a CUE file, and an ISO. Also, is there a particular burning program I should use?

>> No.6264945

>>6264941
*Guardian Heroes

>> No.6264948

>>6264941
>What if there is no BIN file?
Keep looking. Here's a link for all your Saturn needs.
https://archive.org/download/redump.ss
>Also, is there a particular burning program I should use?
As long as it supports BIN/CUE you should be good. You might have to experiment a bit with burning speed. The lower the better, but most modern optical drives can't write at 1x without screwing up. I recommend that you start at 8x.

>> No.6264959

>>6264948
I'll give it a shot, thanks!

>> No.6265073

>>6264948
Use automatic write speeds. Not lowest.

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unerrated kino

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>>6264767

>> No.6265274

>>6264835
>>Elevator Action Returns, Cotton 2 and Cotton Boomerang
considering the first one only has a highly flawed port on taito legends 2 which has numerous issues such as running at 480i and having emulation input lag, saturn's port having no lag and no performance issues, and cotton 2 & boomerang are only on saturn what the fuck are you talking about? Go back to /v/.

>> No.6266017

>>6265073
Doesn't that just make it write at the fastest possible speed?

>> No.6266025

>>6266017
No, it uses a write speed automatically determined by the media's lead-in and the drive.

>> No.6266027

>Got a Saturn in bad condition that I personally restored
>It had a Daytona USA disc inside of it that does actually work
>But now I don't have an actual case for it

>> No.6266035

>>6266027
If it's the original version, it sucks either way. If it's a US Saturn, get Championship Circuit Edition. If it's a Japanese Saturn or you have some way to run PseudoSaturn, get Daytona USA Circuit Edition, which is the second update of the game.

>> No.6266041

>>6266035
Daytona USA is still fun.

>> No.6266043

>>6266041
But the first Saturn port was rushed and for example has an abysmal drawing distance, there's a reason they released later versions of it.

>> No.6266046

>>6266043
The later versions have notable differences in handling physics and the original is still fun despite draw distance.

>> No.6267609

I have a soft mod Sega Saturn. I just realized that the Japanese version of the previously American released games run smoother and better. I was unable to play Croc (USA &EuR Versions) because the character was missing and the ground started glitching like crazy. But then I got a hold of the Japanese version they called Croc! Pau-Pau Island, and that version plays waayyy better. I used an English manual just to figure out the controls (Standard controller is better than the 3d controller for that game imo). I can say the same thing for the Japanese version of Wipeout XL on Sega Saturn. I didn't even know that there was more than one Wipeout game for the console, cause developers were struggling on the first one. And the import version of Wipeout XL is English friendly like no other, but use the 3d controller for that game and skip the first Wipeout game on the Saturn.

>> No.6267701

>>6264835
>Why do Saturn owners always recommend inferior ports for games that are better played as their original version?
Because they're almost arcade perfect and have additional content not in the arcade version you nigger? Plus if you're playing on original hardware you're not going to find those arcade PCBs easy. Go back to the N64 vs Saturn thread where you came from

>> No.6267704

>>6267609
>I just realized that the Japanese version of the previously American released games run smoother and better.
That's a meme. Retards said the same thing about Doom and Tomb Raider on Saturn and it's been proven to be false.
> I can say the same thing for the Japanese version of Wipeout XL on Sega Saturn.
No you can't, because the only speed you're gaining is from playing it in NTSC as opposed to PAL, which is the only other region Saturn XL came out.

>> No.6267708

>>6267704
But I didn't mention DOOM nor Tomb Raider didn't I? Any more import versions you disagree on besides those two games? Cause I can at least agree that those two games were eh on the Saturn. I can look past your shit talking too.

>> No.6267721 [DELETED] 

>>6267704
Oh, and I prefer playing Lupin The 3rd: Sage of the Pyramid over Tomb Raider. Better Presentation imo. And the 32X port of DOOM was better than any version of DOOM. And yes that's why I downloaded Wipeout XL instead of Wipeout 2097 (although it's the same game, but one region is better than the other). Same thing goes for why I preferred the Japanese version of Croc. Those games I mentioned is facts over your favorite meme

>> No.6267726

>>6267704
Oh, and I prefer playing Lupin The 3rd: Sage of the Pyramid over Tomb Raider. Better Presentation imo. And the 32X port of DOOM was better than any version of DOOM on the Saturn. And yes that's why I downloaded Wipeout XL instead of Wipeout 2097 (although it's the same game, but one region is better than the other). Same thing goes for why I preferred the Japanese version of Croc. Those games I mentioned is facts over your favorite meme.

Does anybody Google "regional differences" these days? I mean damn, proofs in the search pudding.

>> No.6267782

>>6267704
JAPAN > USA, learn to live with it bro

>> No.6267790

>>6263802
>Metal Slug (second only to the Neo-Geo as long as you have a 4MB RAM expansion)

Metal Slug on Saturn has near constant slowdown, some background seams are misaligned, the backgrounds and sprites seem to move at different speeds sometime, it has noticeably downsampled sound effects, and despite the RAM cart it is still missing a lot of the animation. It also has input lag when it slows down.

>> No.6267794

>>6264057
Satiator won't have 100% compatibility because it works through a software hack. Same as the Pseudo Saturn. Some games will inevitably trip it up. It also doesn't work on all hardware models right now (launch units don't work), and the mpeg cart slot is as poor as the memory cart slot, so it won't be reliable due to bad contacts (the betas already have a debug light indicator exactly for this).

That and it's funded through patreon and we all know what that means.

>> No.6267796

>>6264401
Imgburn is the worst cd burning app. Use a cracked version of Nero or Alcohol, those are more reliable.

>>6264556
>you'll be fine if you just set the write speed to 4x

If you use a burner from 1999 then yeah. On modern machines you can burn at any speeds; unless your console has a fucked up laser, it won't make a difference. And if it has a fucked up laser you need to recalibrate it, instead of wasting 15 minutes on burning a disc or using $3 "high quality" blank media,

>> No.6267798

>>6264835
Sexy Parodius and Cotton 2/Boomerang are not inferior ports, they are some of the few 100% perfect ones. Boomerang also has shitloads of extras (practice mode and hi-res art gallery).

You are right about the rest though.
Darius Gaiden also comes to mind, it has hiccups and missing effects compared to the arcade version, but at least it has CD Audio music instead (and that game is worth it already just as an audio CD).

>> No.6267803

>>6264941
>bunch of mp3s, a CUE file, and an ISO

You delete it and find a bin/cue copy.

>> No.6267804

>>6267609
>I was unable to play Croc (USA &EuR Versions) because the character was missing and the ground started glitching like crazy.

This happens in the original copy too. You have to do something like open the CD lid and boot from there.

>> No.6267805

>>6267782
US versions of some Saturn games ended up fixing glitches in the JP version, though. Fighters Megamix runs smoother, In the Hunt doesn't even boot on half the consoles, neither does Outrun, etc.

>> No.6268037

Is it better to get the most expensive red cart on eBay, try to flash my Action Replay cartridge, or get a phantom universal and keep the AR? I haven't kept up with Saturn stuff in the last 5 years.

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>>6263793
This board baffles me sometimes. Here someone asks for recommendations and then it's almost all console warring and talking about ports. Meanwhile legitimately amazing games like Legend of Oasis almost never get mentioned, not even just in this thread.

>> No.6268109

>>6268037
I dont think you should flash your AR, IIRC flashing it to Pseudo Saturn removes the save back up feature.

>> No.6268154

>>6268109
Not if you use a coin sized watch battery for internal memory saving. Took my young dumb ass years to figure that out.

>> No.6268161

>>6267804
True but if you soft mod (psuedo) your system cartridge, you can't boot from the Saturn menu unless you have an original copy.
I was just speaking in terms of those who use the Psuedo mod cartridges and have to burn a backup disc. They say that you can't play the USA and EUR versions with it, so I threw the JAP version for recommendation. I should have included more detail on that, my bad.

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>>6263793
The redpill too hard for weebtarded /vr/ hipsters to accept: the Shiturn was a miserable failure and has no games that redeem its worthless existence.

>> No.6268182

>>6268165
You're trying too hard.

>> No.6268183

>>6268165
Here we have a guy who bases his favorite games on sales and mainstream reviews. Middle fingers to that guy in the picture too.

>> No.6268290

>>6268109
That's what the red cart is for, the most advanced version retains the memory card function even with PseudoSaturn.
>>6268154
The internal memory feature is quite limited compared to a memory card and the battery might die before you realize it so you lose all your saves. Since it also has to power an internal clock it's pretty short-lived, good thing it's at least not soldered to the board.

>> No.6268292

>>6268161
>True but if you soft mod (psuedo) your system cartridge, you can't boot from the Saturn menu unless you have an original copy.
You can access the regular boot menu from within PseudoSaturn, you enter exit and then "Exit to Multiplayer".

>> No.6268332

>>6268165
bernieposter fuck off

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>>6263793
Dark Saviour is pretty unique. Isometric, platforming and battle system.

>> No.6268538

>>6263793
All off them. I love my full set, took me years to complete.

Now PS1 on the other hand...

>> No.6268631

>>6268538
you own over thousand sega saturn games?

>> No.6268632

>>6263802
>10 player support with 2 multitaps

Damn, I wish I was present for one of the three or four times in history that this actually happened.

>> No.6268701

>>6264051
he hasnt updated since xmas. it's dead

>> No.6268886

>>6268165
seek help auster

>> No.6268993

>>6268631
Right? Like damn you won Ben Steiner's money.
I have plenty of Saturn games, but most of them are burned copies cause I'm po without the o-r.

>> No.6269004

Why wouldn’t you just get a Phantom? They’re cheap now.

>> No.6269006

>>6263793
Albert Odyssey is pretty good, although the translation is by Working Designs so it's not exactly the best translation. They even added random racist jokes at a couple points.

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>>6263793
Virtual On

>> No.6269039

>>6263793
I have literally never played a Saturn in my life. I don't know if I've ever even seen one irl.

>> No.6269063

>>6269039
Yahoo japan, don’t bother with any western seller. They’ll charge twice and much, three times as much for a jap edition white Saturn sometimes.

>> No.6269067

>>6268054
>shit zelda clone
>>6269030
>inferior port
Saturn threads are so depressing.

>> No.6269080

>>6269067
Lol it's better than any of the Zelda games.

>> No.6269092

>>6269080
It's shit. The art style for different objects doesn't even match. It's impossible to tell the height of different surfaces. The puzzles are shit. It's a mediocre game.

>> No.6269945

Just got a video CD card for a real good price. Probably gonna make a VCD of the Sonic OVA and watch that on my Saturn.

>> No.6269992

>>6263994
This! Currently going through shining force 3 and not long finished policenauts

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