Legitimate question

[Anonymous No.6260710]

Why are people here triggered about pirating or emulating old games? I don't understand, most of them are old and unsupported by the dev/publisher.
any good site, you can do me about those if you want

[Anonymous No.6260724]

>>6260710
I don't follow the logic of people who WOULD be upset about it (but I do know they exist).
With most retro games games, even if you can source a physical copy it'll be used and the publisher/developer won't be getting any money anyway.

[Anonymous No.6260846]

>>6260710
You can have the same experience for free that others paid for. You'd be mad too

[Anonymous No.6260858]

It's a few retards from reddit that like to shitpost. Emulation is perfectly fine. So is piracy.

[Anonymous No.6260860]

>>6260710
I don’t know where you got that. We don’t give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.6260868]

>>6260860
Not OP but I see people calling others emucucks and other garbage like that.

[Anonymous No.6260869]

>>6260724
>I don't follow the logic of people who WOULD be upset about it
It's not logical, it's specifically illogical, like most of our primitive, animalistic ways of thinking. We have an ingrained concept of fairness, but it only goes one way. It's inherently selfish.

Example: You see something on sale, you buy it, and are pleased with the money you saved. You couldn't give even the tiniest fraction of a fuck for the dumb asshole that paid full price for it yesterday. But if you paid full price and learn that you're the dumb asshole because it went on sale a day later, you get angry, despite the fact that you were perfectly content with spending that amount of money the day before.

[Anonymous No.6260873]

>>6260868
Also sort of unrelated but can anyone recommend me a decent controller for emulated retro games. I've been using my PS4 controller but it doesn't feel that comfortable for older games. I was thinking something like this but I'm unsure

[Anonymous No.6260883]

>>6260710
More people here are triggered by people playing on real hardware and real copies. This board is overrun by /v/.

[Anonymous No.6260884]

>>6260873
If you can't hold a DS4 comfortably, which has top-tier ergos, I can't imagine you'll enjoy holding that flat piece of shit. Try your luck with a Wii Classic Pro, and pick up a model 2 saturn controller for 2d games while you're at it.

[Anonymous No.6260890]

>>6260884
It's not that the Dualshock 4 is uncomfortable. I just prefer the feel of a genesis or super nintendo controller for older games. I have the Wii classic controller already, as well as those Super Nintendo Mini controllers but do adapters to USB exist for them?

[Anonymous No.6260897]

>>6260890
>but do adapters to USB exist for them?
They sure do. https://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/wusbmote_1player_adapter_v3/index.php
Pricey, but they make the best adapters by far.
>I just prefer the feel of a genesis
Definitely consider trying a model 2 saturn controller.

[Anonymous No.6260910]

>>6260897
I'll keep that bookmarked and order one soon. Also I've never had the chance to play an actual Saturn before but those controllers do look nice

[Anonymous No.6260920]

>>6260846
> availability
If I could pay Burgerking $2 for some Shaken'e,'up fries from 2002 I'd pay $4 because they were bomb, but they don't make them anymore so I have to download them instead.

[Anonymous No.6260921]

>>6260868
Emulation is not exactly the same as what OP is talking about.

[Anonymous No.6260925]

>>6260710
fuck off we dont need another emulator thread

[Anonymous No.6260927]

>thinking you’ve beaten a game when you savescummed through it
Because emulation is for poor people and thirdworlders.

[Anonymous No.6260929]

>>6260921
?
>>6260710
>pirating or emulating old games

[Anonymous No.6260993]

>>6260860
This. We're all playing vidya at the end of the day anyway. I'm not really concerned with how others acheive that.

[Anonymous No.6260994]

>>6260883
This is the real truth that people really around here seem to be trying really hard to cover up.

[Anonymous No.6261003]

>>6260883
I can't say that I'm triggered but I wish I could afford to collect for the Super Nintendo or Saturn. At least PS1 games are mostly very cheap

[Anonymous No.6261005]

>>6260994
Funny, because there isn't a single person complaining about original hardware, yet there's four posts out of 20, including yours, or 20% of the entire thread, complaining about emulation. See:
>>6260883
>>6260925
>>6260927

Isn't that interesting?

[Anonymous No.6261006]

>>6260927
OP here, don't use save states.
>>6260846
I haven't got many consoles, but I mainly emulate PSP which I already own and I play mostly Crash Over the Mutants Mind because is my favourite game.
>>6260883
I don't really care, I am fine with both physical and emulated. But I guess analogies don't count.
>>6260873
In the theme of this question, should I get a separate telescopic controller for my phone or get something to clip my phone to my DS4?

[Anonymous No.6261023]

>>6260710
resellers and autism

[Anonymous No.6261028]

>>6261006
The PSP is a great emulation machine. I've been playing Game Boy stuff on mine. Or do you mean you've been emulating PSP games? I have mine loaded with every PSP game that I want to play so I just use the actual hardware.
And is Mind Over Mutant actually good? I've only played the PS1 Crash games as well as the first GBA title which was also good.

[Anonymous No.6261075]

>>6261005
not him but trust me, we get threads trying to shit on hardware all the time.

To answer the OP question though, it seems only collectors get triggered by piracy, and SOME hardware elitists get triggered by emulation. Either way the balanced people know that hardware+flashcarts/backups devices is the most logical option.

[Anonymous No.6261083]

>>6260710
As a collector I don't give a shit about people emulating. I do it too, and used to do it a whole bunch before I got into original hardware. Just play the damn games bro

[Anonymous No.6261086]

>>6261075
>and SOME hardware elitists get triggered by emulation
To be fair I still haven't found any way to play Super Mario World without super noticeable input lag (romhacks make the effect even clearer, because they usually require more precision).

[Anonymous No.6261090]

>>6261003
Just don't buy games in bulk. Like, only buy one game at a time and don't buy another until you've beaten or grown tired of it and your collection will build up slowly but surely. Yeah it's shitty that a single game can cost you 80 bucks but it won't seem like its that bad if you only buy 1 game every month or so. If you can't put up with the price then just emulate or get a flash cart.

[Anonymous No.6261101]

>>6261090
Unfortunately I just settle for emulation and buy games for systems I can afford like the PS1 or occasionally Dreamcast. I've been thinking about starting to collect for Game Boy or Game Gear if that Analogue handheld turns out alright. Because fuck I'm not gonna be playing Game Gear games in particular on actual hardware

[Anonymous No.6261110]

They're brain-damaged. Likely American.

And have various misconceptions like this tranny >>6260927

[Anonymous No.6261158]

>>6261086
I'm 100% with you on that. Certain games have such tight controls - I would never play mario world on an emulator because I have a real snes and a crt. I have no problem with people who have standards for themselves and preferences, but just don't go shitting on someone who would enjoy the game on an emulator. If they still have fun, that's what matters. If they are really passionate about it and play it a lot, eventually they will realize and come to notice the input lag on their own, and then perhaps invest in the real deal.
It all comes down to what you like. I like a few genesis games but not enough of them where I feel the need to get a real genesis, so I emulate. If you are using a good computer and monitor these days the lag of emulators isn't THAT bad.

[Anonymous No.6261163]

>>6261003
Look for importing Saturn games. They seem to be in better condition on Ebay and are sometimes cheaper. It's especially the case for RE1's Saturn Port and Deep Fear, both games have stupidly overpriced N/A versions and the Japanese versions have the english dub available anyways.

[Anonymous No.6261273]

>>6261086
You can get input lag within a fraction of a frame of hardware (frame delay, vulkan renderer with swapchain 2). You can push that even lower than original hardware with a single frame of runahead, but that's not authentic.

[Anonymous No.6261307]

>>6260868
And it has nothing to do with piracy.

[Anonymous No.6261440]

>>6260920
I remember eating those on the day my parents and I went to visit my grandmother's new fiance who later ditched her at the altar. He had an alpaca farm that he gave us a tour of, though I don't remember much about it except that I found the alpacas extremely intimidating and was worried they would spit on me. Either the toy with the meal was cool or I had just gotten a new game boy game, because I remember playing with something and enjoying it quite a bit. It might have been Pokémon crystal. My dad had to shake the fries for me, because I couldn't figure it out or was going to make a mess. That's all I can remember off the top of my head, if I kept going I'd probably inadvertently make stuff up.

[Anonymous No.6261765]

>>6261028
I've had it physically, it is now stored in th3 basement wrapped in a ungodly amount of plastic with other electronics from older times.
And it is quite awesome, idk if it's nostalgia or something, but you have a lot of things to do, RPG and action-adventure. You should give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.6261806]

>>6260929
I skimmed over that part. My bad.

[Anonymous No.6261827]

>>6261006
>Crash Over the Mutants Mind
I'm watching a playthrough and this is a horrible game. This is your favorite game of all time? And do you realize you're on a retro gaming site?

[Anonymous No.6261835]

>>6261827
Watching it now and while it doesn't look horrible, it looks very generic and a lot worse than the originals.

[Anonymous No.6261936]

>>6260873
PS4 controller is peak ergonomics. They took a solid design and perfected it.

t. never owned a console later than a GameCube

[Anonymous No.6261950]

>>6261936
It’s not perfect but it is nice.

[Anonymous No.6261990]

>>6260710
Meh... No time to bother thinking about them! I had Sega Megadrive then a nes the psx...ps2...gba...psp ! I emulate everything else, I save state when I feel like it. I use rewind! I replay games on hard/hardest mode ! Play modern games always on a level harder than normal... It's games...you play them the way you enjoy them. Bragging was an arcade thing :/

[Anonymous No.6262008]

6261440
That was one of the most pointless stories I've ever read here. What on earth possessed you to share this? I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.6262104]

>>6260860
Maybe op is confusing /vr/ with /v/.

[Anonymous No.6262909]

>>6261827
On the PSP. Not of all time, clearly. But it has its charm for me. Although, I am off topic. I should play the other ones then, off I go.

[Anonymous No.6262915]

>>6261440
That was my great uncle, were you the kid with the weird arm?

[Anonymous No.6262931]

>>6260710
The better question: why do u bother about them? Fuck them and play any games you want to play. If you want to collect systems/games do it.
/thread

[Anonymous No.6262960]

>>6262915
Not that I remember. Was his name Pat?

[Anonymous No.6263293]

>>6260710
>This is a website dedicated to modding X game
>No we will not tell you where to download the ROM because that is illegal
>Make sure you only use this specific version of the game ROM that is hard to find and un-headered
>Posting links to this ROM will get you banned

[Anonymous No.6263589]

>>6263293
???

[Anonymous No.6263617]

>>6260869
Nah it's fucking propaganda the big money has been pushing forever. Tapes, VHS, games, same shit.

I used to spend a lot of time on gamedev communities. The topic came up a lot as you'd expect.
So we broke it down. Over and over. As people with a professional and ethical interest. The fact is that more players is always a good thing--growth is geometric--unless you're a massive publisher and/or (maybe) a super established franchise who can reach saturation-levels of mind share.

No matter how many times it came up the conclusion is basically the same... because it's obvious if you think it through.
Yet no matter how many times that happened you'd still somehow always get retards like Phil Phish talking about "lost sales" like they're entitled to money in peoples' pockets somehow.
It doesn't benefit you a fucking thing to think that way, but greedy retards are super vulnerable to anyone dangling even just the narrative of a dollar bill in front of them.

[Anonymous No.6263627]

>>6263617
>propaganda
You know why, right?
Copying a floppy ought to be a lil minor civil matter, but distributors/big studios/whatever are happy if it's scarier than that.

But so what, who cares what they think, right? I bet every industry would be happy if it were illegal not to buy their product.
Luckily governments are fucking thrilled for any excuse to treat possession like it's the same thing as organized crime... for anything.

It's fucking 1998 and wrongthink doesn't have to be technically illegal if they've got a nerd purge button they can hit any time

[Anonymous No.6263690]

>>6260873
Classic controller Pro is great if you elegant the analog sticks. If you want old school snes layout without analog, I recommend the Pokken Tournament Controller. Big buttons, great D-pad, Xbox comfort.

[Anonymous No.6263701]

>>6263293
Getting into LttP Randomizers?

[Anonymous No.6263740]

>>6261158
I have a hard time going back to real hardware mario world after getting used to run ahead with 1000 polling per second on windows xp with custom amd drivers on a BVM, but I won't shit on other who enjoy and are used to the built in input lag from the real version.

[Anonymous No.6264135]

>>6260710
I know Nintendo hates people emulating their old shit because they want to make money off remakes.

[Anonymous No.6264214]

>>6260710
The only retards who are triggered by emulation are scalping fags.
People who prefer playing on real hardware or collect games they like in physical form wouldn't really care if someone emulates their same game or not since it's just a preference thing.
Scalpers meanwhile leech off of the hobby simply because they can't find an actual job (much like most of the YouTube content creators) and instead have to rely on making things artificially scarce and prey either on people's stupidity or deep desires to earn money, so no wonder those scalping cunts would be pissed if a method to play their "rare" games would've been available for free via emulation or via official re-releases on consoles and PC for way cheaper than the single game they're selling.

[Anonymous No.6264278]

>>6260868
I think that's more about the system you play on. People here generally don't care if you paid for an old game, but about you getting the most "authentic" experience while playing, meaning flash carts and rom dumps on cartridges are seen as more "legit" than an emulator on a modern device. Personally I don't care, but I know it can make a bit of a difference with certain games.

[Anonymous No.6264302]

>>6260868
That's just original hardware autism and people wanting to feel validated lugging their crusty olds crts around and paying 300 bucks to ebay scalpers for snes cartridges

[Anonymous No.6264332]

>>6263617
>Nah it's fucking propaganda the big money has been pushing forever
Nobody actually cares about that. Now, they may bring it up as a surface level reason as to why they're upset, but it's always going to come down to "it's unfair that i had to pay and they didn't". It's not just piracy, it's the realization that someone else got a better deal, regardless of whether or not they paid.
>Yet no matter how many times that happened you'd still somehow always get retards like Phil Phish talking about "lost sales" like they're entitled to money in peoples' pockets somehow
That's certainly the corporate line, but you'll be hard pressed to find any triple digit IQ individuals that actually believe that.

[Anonymous No.6264860]

>>6263690
>great D-pad
absolutely fucking not

[Anonymous No.6265079]

>>6264332
>Nobody actually cares about that.
>you'll be hard pressed to find any triple digit IQ individuals that actually believe that.
Again, I was talking about the perspective of game developers towards their own games, which they go on to project to their audience. As much as I don't want to admit it I'm sure most of those numbskulls cracked 100 IQ despite believing in the moronic concept of a "lost sale" owed to them.

You have a pet theory though.
Okay. We heard you the first time.

The problem with your theory is that people who paid full retail for a game don't invent an ideological excuse to get angry at people who got it for a buck at a steam sale.
They might get angry, sure. That's why Nintendo sent me a free copy of Wave Race 64. But not at the people who bought it cheaper: at themselves or the retailer. It's a useless analogy.

[Anonymous No.6265103]

Nobody cares. It's all shitposting.

[Anonymous No.6265317]

>>6265079
>You have a pet theory though.
>Okay. We heard you the first time.
That sounded better in your head.

[Anonymous No.6265401]

>>6265317
Wow, you sure showed me.

[Anonymous No.6265890]

>>6264860
Absolutely fucking yes.

[Anonymous No.6266696]

>>6260884
Do not buy a classic controller, it’s one of the worst controllers I play with. Get yourself a genesis or a Saturn usb controller. Nice big arcade-y buttons, fluid d-pad that works the same in all directions regardless of diagonals, they’re really the best of the best

[Anonymous No.6266737]

>>6260710
I think people on this site are not really triggered by pirating games, they just prefer the original hardware and see emulation as inferior. The anti-piracy crowd is a whole different can of worms.

As an example, one of my dad's friends is a software developer and has this irrational hatred of piracy, no matter what the context. In his mind, piracy = lost sales = food stolen from the mouths of his family. I can kind of see his point when it comes to current software (although I would still argue that if someone is pirating your shit, it probably means they didn't intend to buy it anyways, especially if it is $1k+ business software). But when he launches into a moral tirade about "muh piracy" when I mention Super Nintendo games or 25-year-old Macintosh abandonware, I can't help but roll my eyes. Most recent thing he took offence at:

>had my grandfather's old Macintosh Quadra 610 sitting around since he died in 2011
>Been meaning to get A/UX running on it for a while, never did because didn't want to wipe his Mac OS partition and all his files
>Recently found a pile of 500MB SCSI drives, decide it's finally time to give it a try
>Get A/UX running after a huge pain in the ass install process, begin using it and writing some simple programs
>This archaic old UNIX feel is so comfy
>Dad's friend comes over, decide to show him this setup because he's also a huge UNIX fan
>Proceeds to get huffy because I didn't use a "legitimate" copy of A/UX
>"But, this is an extinct operating system that hasn't been sold since 1997 and has been basically disowned by its former owner. I don't even think there are any live A/UX systems in the wild anymore, aside maybe from some oddball industrial application somewhere"
>It DoEsN't MaTtEr, it contains code that is still used in UNIX operating systems, and so it's still pIrAcY and it's WRONG

It was at that point I came to understand that this guy, and people like him, are fucking ideologues. It's best to just disregard them.

[Anonymous No.6266847]

>>6266737
Alternative theory, you know how people are always most sensitive about the things they feel guilty about? Like every foaming-at-the-mouth anti-homosexual senator inevitably gets caught one day in the act of inserting tropical fruit into a troupe of oiled-up rentboys?

That guy probably has some dark skeletons in his closet. He wants to be the last person you think of when you discover one day that the liquor cabinet has been emptied of rum and your tall ship is missing from the sea parking lot

[Anonymous No.6266887]

>>6260710
I'm with those that say emulation is inferior but there's nothing wrong with burned discs or flashcarts on the real console.

[Anonymous No.6266962]

>>6266737
And this my friends is what we call "Dogma" the root of everything bad in anything that can have thoughts

[Anonymous No.6267054]

>>6260710
It's like showing an alcoholic a video of him being drunk.

Think about it, you go into MASSIVE DEBT to purchase games on ebay for clout on forums and youtube. This completely bypasses that.

It literally is mental illness.

[Anonymous No.6267097]

>>6266737
I always find it funny about these guys are against piracy of old games when none of the original development team is making money from it anymore and only the publisher and resellers are making money fromit anymore.
And also the last UNIX system with UNIX name is at end of life.
https://www.xinuos.com/products/unixware-7/

[Anonymous No.6267108]

>>6260846
I'd be mad but not at them.
I'd be the sucker who paid money for 30 year old crap that already netted the devs a 1000% profit after all this time.

[Anonymous No.6267229]

>>6260710
>I'M SO MAD! YOU CANT PIRATE GAMES! DEVS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO NOT SELL THEM BUT INSTEAD MAKE MONEY BY THREATENING PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO PLAY THE GAME!

[Anonymous No.6267265]

I softmod my Saturn Saturn to play cd burned games (imports especially) and have no shame. I did collect and buy games at one point, but with the advanced technology for retro consoles, why not get free burned copies and a flash cart? Some Sega Saturn classics be in between $80-400, and Mario party series $60 a piece. MK64 about $50 and I don't live with my parents anymore so the Everdrive 64 saved my life.

[Anonymous No.6267369]

>>6260710
I don't hate emulation, I use it as a supplement to actual hardware. What I hate is emulation only fags who think emulating is "good enough" AND shit on people for owning original hardware. That simultaneous having low standards and being proud of it kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.6267896]

>>6260710
I don't k now a single person triggersd by emulators. I know plenty annoyed by constant insufferable emubaby cope shitposts though.