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>> No.6253458
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>>6253412
What's Lara's background? She always looked mixed to me.

>> No.6253469
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I don't recall when they started doing it, but in The Last Revelation, Lara had a special climbing animation if you held the up button. It was this gymnastic split and even though I was too young to boner, I still knew it was hot af.

Truly we can never go back to the golden age.

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>> No.6253753

>>6253469
It was in the first game. Hold slow walk while climbing.

>> No.6253769

>>6253458
Either latinamerican or mediterranean

>> No.6253794

>>6253458
Laura Cruz was a mercenary / tomb raider of some unknown Latin American country.

>> No.6253819

>>6253412
Could never get fully turned on by her until legends.

>> No.6253835

>>6253458
She was drawn as a spanish woman no joke look it up

>> No.6253837

>>6253731
poor jill at least her story is stillin tact

>> No.6254332
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>>6253458
She was supposed to be Latina named Laura Cruz.
Then they did a brainstorm about it and someone (supposedly Gavin Rummery) said "hey, wouldn't the game be easier due to VA to make if she's British?". So she ended up being lady Lara Croft, of the Surrey's Crofts, but kept the brownish design. Got toned down from 3rd game onward, but it also added to the mistique anyway. Had a rebound of it in Legend, too, since Toby Gard was """"consulting"""" and made an off-hand remark about Lara being supposed to be Latina, only this time he was working with Americans and their lead designer said "That's brilliant!". So they had to remind the guy that nope, we can't exactly make new Tomb Raider with Laura Cruz, it has to be Lara Croft, the boring white English lady.
Aside of that, when there was a first big documentry did on the game and the character, they've talked with Gard in some bar about the design and character concept. So he put out a napkin and draw them a not-exactly-Lara, pointing out various elements of the design as he went with the sketch, explaining why they help with showing that hey, we've got an adventuring type that doesn't shy from violence, along with pointing out how making her look more exotic adds to the appeal.

tl;dr she was supposed to be different character entirely and things got weird during production

>> No.6254336

>>6253412
nuLara is fine but games suck balls
LAU Lara is hnnnngggh tho

>> No.6255495

>>6254336
crysta dynamics are shit in general

>> No.6258001

>>6254332
I feel like it would have been better if they made her naked. Nude Raider really enhanced the immersion of the series in a way none of the base games did.

>> No.6258138

>>6253458
>>6253769
>>6253794
No she's white. That's just a tan

>> No.6258150

>>6254332
She never was supposed to be latina, idiot.
Stop with the history rewriting and all that bullshit.
Whatever was briefly considered during the initial brainstorming session and never was implemented isn't "what the character was supposed to be"

>> No.6258152

>>6254336
>nuLara is fine
She's not fine. She's a mediocre looking shitface and looks nothing like Lara Croft

>> No.6258201

>>6258152
NuLara is cute as fuck until about the 3rd entry of the reboot franchise

The problem is- no one gives a shit about her because she's a poorly written character compared to the original games.

>> No.6258219

>>6258201
It's just another soulless scanface.
Looks nothing like Lara, so she's wrong.
She's poorly designed and misses the point on every level.
How she looks and her "personality" are the first things to ditch

>> No.6258239

>>6254332
Why all these lies?

>> No.6258264

>>6258201
>NuLara is cute as fuck
no

>> No.6258537

>>6253769
>>6253794
>>6253835
>>6254332

>Lara is latina

Does this mean she has brown nipples?

I hope so

>> No.6258556

>>6258150
Lara was supposed to be latina, Lara Cruz. And even before that, the proag was supposed to be a guy but they were afraid of Indiana Jones creators suing them. TR Anniversary included a video about her.
>0:50 - male lead
>1:40 - lara cruz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzrlx0th6rk

>> No.6258559

>>6253412
It honestly makes me angry that we have to specify CLASSIC.

>> No.6258580

>>6254332
She was supposed to be a man, and a blatant rip off of indiana jones first, lets not get mistaken here and start shitposting that she's secretly a latina, you fucking fuck-wits.

Secondly, Spaniards are white.

>> No.6258582

>>6258556
DIPSHIT. You have absolutely zero idea how the creative process functions in a video game. They drafted concepts for the character, and then while conceptualizing her they changed her from Lara Cruz to Lara Croft. She didn't reach all the way to the end-stages of development and then just make the switch. That doesn't happen. They designed, developed, and created Lara as a british woman. Her not being an albino does not mean she's a fucking Latino from Brazil, you batshit retard.

>> No.6258583

>>6258582
this is a weird thing to be so mad about

>> No.6258585

>>6253835
>look it up
>you're wrong

well

>> No.6258586

>>6258556
She wasn't supposed to be anything.
The brainstorming room didn't like the idea of making it a guy. Didn't like the idea of a latina. They liked the british heiress.
Lara Croft was never supposed to be anything besides what she WAS, before the modern reboot ruined her.
Also what this anon says >>6258580

>> No.6258587

>>6258583
You spreading misinfo for some weird fetish/political/autistic desire is not a weird reason to be annoyed at you about.

Stop being a fucking retard and projecting your wishes onto reality.

>> No.6258591

>>6258559
Ditto.
I call her the REAL Lara.

>> No.6258598

>>6258587
I'm not even that guy tho

>> No.6258601

>>6258598
You are all the same

>> No.6258607

'?>>6253412
Lara, dear Lara....
Why did they hat to turn you into some ugly, sexless, weak and unlikable mannequin in the last decade?

>> No.6258619
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>>6258607
Because attractive women make feminists angry. They want to convince women that the only reason they're attractive is because of patriarchal standards of beauty, disregarding the fact that men have the opposite standards of beauty applied onto them by women, which has been going on for millenias.

tl;dr Feminists try to cope with being fugly pigs by convincing attractive women they're male puppets

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>>6258619
What I hate the most is their constant attempt at gaslighting.
Bunch of pieces of shit going at war against her for 20 years, that's all you need to know about how good and beloved she was

>> No.6258637

>>6258619
It wasn't too long to read, btw

>> No.6258641

>>6258635
Someone really should make a "virgin nu-Lara vs Chad Classic Lara" meme

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>>6258641
You just need to ask

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>>6258648
You can also ask twice

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>>6258537
She has high melanin for sure, so that's possible.

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I wonder how this is going to work.

>> No.6258752

>>6258648
>>6258652
Based

>> No.6258779 [DELETED] 

ITT: cumbrains obsessing over a fictional 56% thot.

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>>6258648
Fixed the text.

>> No.6258797

>>6258779
t. leftard angry no one likes nu-Lara as a character

>> No.6258807

>Thread almost dead, literally bottom of the cataolog
>Return 8 hours later
>Shitstorm for 30 posts, with one monkey trying to out-ape another

>> No.6258809

>>6258807
>summing up all of /vr/

>> No.6258814

>>6258737
What the fuck?

>> No.6258931

>upper class heiress
>east end slag accent
??

>> No.6259006

>>6258931
You're referring to the nu-Lara right? They said they did it because "london is so much more diverse" now and they wanted to get Lara away from "upper class" British culture so she was more a person of the "people". No idea why the fuck they ever chose to make her into that.

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>>6259006
NuLara was voiced by a woman that spent more of her life in America rather than UK.

>> No.6259028

>>6259018
>wants to be accepted by her friends and by people in general

Complete fucking slap in the face to what her character was all about in the original games.

>> No.6259170

>>6259006
>Game made by Americans
>Development organised by literal commitee
>No idea why the fuck they ever chose to make her into that

>> No.6259203

>>6259170
>>Game made by Americans
So was LAU, dipshit.

>Development organised by literal commitee
It actually wasn't at all though.

>> No.6259304

the new games are only tomb raider in name, same as the resident evil crap

>> No.6259312 [DELETED] 

>>6259028
>>wants to be accepted by her friends and by people in general
Slitting guys throats and stabbing them in the face with broken bottles will do that! Seriously the recent games are just brainless muder simulations with zero depth.

>> No.6259317

>>6259028
>>wants to be accepted by her friends and by people in general
Slitting guys throats and stabbing them in the face with broken bottles will do that! Seriously the recent games are just brainless murder simulations with zero depth.

>> No.6259385

>>6259170
>game made by Americans
Shadow wasn't. Secondly, why are you pointing out "made by Americans"? It was Americans who kept the franchise afloat after the original studio dropped the ball so hard she almost fell into an early grave.

>> No.6259391

>>6259018
>spent more of her life in America than the UK

Where does it say that anywhere in pic? Says she's more from the "streets of London".

>> No.6259650

>>6258715
It's called tan

>> No.6259658

>>6259203
>It actually wasn't at all though.
Yes it was, monkey

>> No.6259660

>>6259385
Kept it afloat and then ruined it.

>> No.6259662

>>6258784
Fixed by downplaying how stupid and boring is left character?

>> No.6259679

>>6259660
>kept it afloat and then ruined it
So identical to the brits then?

>> No.6259683

>>6259679
>So identical to the brits then?
No?
Talking strictly about the 2010s shit, btw

>> No.6259687

>>6259683
>No?
Did they not keep the series afloat, and then promptly ruin it with Chronicles and Angel of Darkness?

>> No.6259689

>>6259683
>>6259687
By the way, the worst one of the 2010's trilogy (Shadow) was made by Canadians, so there's that.

>> No.6259697

>>6259391
Just read about Camilla Luddington.

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>>6259650
What about her dark lips, eyes and hair?

>> No.6259707

>>6259687
Making one every year ruined it, but it was still Lara. And was still TR
>By the way, the worst one of the 2010's trilogy (Shadow) was made by Canadians, so there's that.
2010s shits are all the same. Not Lara and not TR. Canadians just ate from the shitplate CD served them. Character was already ruined.

>> No.6259708

>>6259702
What about them?
Stop conflating what you see with what you want to see, anon.

>> No.6259730

>>6259697
I mean, John Lennon spent more of his life America than in Britain...So?

>> No.6259731

>>6259702
White people can have those too, genius.

>> No.6259734

>>6259707
>Making one every year ruined it, but it was still Lara. And was still TR
Yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah, angel of darkness fucking sucked horse dick. I'll always take a finished game over an unfinished pile of shit that doesn't work.

Chronicles was boring garbage, which is NOT TR. If anyone's to blame for for the ruining of Tomb Raider, it's Core, who ended up running it into the ground in 5 years and then trying to come back with a broken and shitty game that no one bought that decidedly killed their studio.

You putting the blame on anyone else is cope, since the only reason anyone still knows about Lara is because of CD and both their trilogies, which the first game of which, Anniversary, had Gard working on it. Not sure what angle you're trying to push, but saying it's because of a region and not because of a specific studio is laughable and sounds like angry brit-cope for losing the rights to the franchise to an American company, or a semi-weeb who hates American games.

If you're neither then nevermind, but my guess is I'm somewhere in the ballpark.

>> No.6259739

>>6259730
So it influence your accent, Camilla sound more American rather than British.
>>6259731
What does it have to do with the discussion? We're talking about Lara's possible nipple color.

>> No.6259749

>>6259734
1st - I'm not shittin on LAU trilogy (that was still TR and still had Lara, despite all the flaws) and I'm not saying the last two core games were good (still better than new shit)
2nd - Lmao at Lara being alive in current form. Just because you create a shitty new character and call it Lara Croft, doesn't mean that the character is alive. It only means that a diluted IP people may have heard of is kept aroud in name only.
3rd - I'm not the one who said amaricans ruined it. Pieces of shit that worked on the reboot ruined it, but not because they are americans, but because they are pieces of shit.

>> No.6259760

>>6259734
>since the only reason anyone still knows about Lara is because of CD and both their trilogies,
>People remember new things better
Duh.
People would still know about Lara even they kept the real deal around.
Forgotten > current state
Old things being forgotten was never the problem, seeing them ruined was

>> No.6260493

>>6259760
>People remember new things better
Congrats on completely missing the point, dim-wit. If the series ended with Angel of Darkness, you would all be complaining about there not being a new game, and as much as I hate shadow, at least it's in a finished state, which is more than I can say about AOD.

>>6259749
> Pieces of shit that worked on the reboot ruined it, but not because they are americans, but because they are pieces of shit.
That's fair.

> It only means that a diluted IP people may have heard of is kept aroud in name only.
It could lead to a remaster eventually down the pipe-line ala Spyro and Crash, which if it does, then it'll all be worth it.

>> No.6260802

>>6259385
The amount of revisionism in this post is just lethal.

>> No.6260805

>>6260493
>Being this delusional
Nigga, that franchise is owned by Sqenix now. An it's not their franchise, just something they bought in a shopping spree.

>> No.6261372 [DELETED] 

>>6260802
>The amount of revisionism in this post is just lethal.
What's being revised, faggot? Or are you just butthurt over the truth?

>> No.6261381

>>6260805
>that franchise is owned by Sqenix now.
And Crystal Dynamics is owned by them, duh.

>> No.6261391

>>6260802
Only historical revisionism being done here is by you, retard. Literally every single fan of the series knows that Crystal Dynamics saved Tomb Raider with Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld. Legend may not have sold as much as the previous first 4 games, but it sold faster than them, and sold more than AOD and Chronicles combined, showing that Tomb Raider was still a lucrative series.

You'd have to be mentally handicapped to believe other-wise.

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Just finished Golden Mask expansion. Don't know why people talk down about it so often whenever it's mentioned, it was pretty fun, and I enjoyed more than the fucking chinese death-trap palace towards the end of the main game.

>> No.6261727

>>6260493
>If the series ended with Angel of Darkness, you would all be complaining about there not being a new game,
Meh, I would like a new game, but old things being dead don't bother me. Unless there are no decent new things. What bothers me is when something is raped like in the nuReboot
> and as much as I hate shadow, at least it's in a finished state, which is more than I can say about AOD.
Yes, and AoD is still the most respectable product. Bad unfinished TR + Real Lara >>> Reboot shit + shitface nuLara

>> No.6261758

>>6259734
>If anyone's to blame for for the ruining of Tomb Raider, it's Core

Actually, the biggest assholes were Eidos Interactive, their publisher. They got fucking greedy after the 1st one and started demanding that Core must push out a new game every Xmas for those sweet, sweet holiday dollars. That's the reason why TR2 for example didn't receive all of the planned improvements and new features: Eidos didn't give 'em enough time. Core wanted to make better games, but Eidos wouldn't let them, because they only cared about their holiday sales.

>> No.6261920

>>6261391
>Literally every single fan of the series knows that Crystal Dynamics saved Tomb Raider with Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld
>t. started with Anniversary added to his GPU
Don't ask how I know.
The rest is following revisionism, since apparently it's a great thing that a franchise continued to exist, producing mediocrity and then outright shit, rather than simply being wrapped up. People like you are the exact reason why '13 reboot happend. And in 5-10 years will consider it a good thing, in some self-justifying move.
The series should have ended with AoD. Nobody saved anything. Just bunch of retards in management, first in Eidos, then in SquareEnix, decided to make some extra buck by beating the dead horse and trying to squeeze more money.

>> No.6261932

>>6261920
100% this. Fuck the apologists

>> No.6262157

>>6261391
Read OP. Preferably aloud.
Then tell us all what the fuck are you even doing right now, apologist.

>> No.6262846

>>6261706
I've never seen it get bashed i've always seen the expansion packs get praised.

>> No.6263104

>>6262846
I didn't like them, only lost artifact was somewhat decent.

>> No.6263110

>>6253458
I always thought she was latina, but apparently she's just British.

>> No.6263494

>>6262157
>read the OP aloud
Reading it aloud would do nothing to disprove the fact that LAU games kept the franchise alive, dick snorting faggot.

>>6261920
>The series should have ended with AoD
The series should have ended with a decent game, not an abortion forever staining the series legacy more than TR2013 ever would have.

>t. started with Anniversary added to his GPU
Try Tomb Raider 1 on the PS1, shit-head.

>People like you are the exact reason why '13 reboot happend
Yes, people like me are EXACTLY why we got the decent LAU series, and not because of people like like you, and you will forever cope over that fact.

>>6261758
> That's the reason why TR2 for example didn't receive all of the planned improvements and new features
They didn't have any "planned improvements".

>A decision was made early on to keep the engine from the first Tomb Raider, adopting a tweak-and-improve approach, rather than starting over from scratch
>This, combined with the larger development team, allowed the team to meet the deadline.

Tomb Raider 2 came out exactly as intended, no idea WHAT you're talking about, and it was a smashing success.

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>>6254332
>the boring white English lady.
Fuck your couch, nigger.

>> No.6263592

>>6263583
Different anon, but did the point hit you in the face or rather in the forehead when it was pasing clean through you?

>> No.6263689

>>6263494
>Tomb Raider 2 came out exactly as intended
Funny, because that would mean not coming out at all.
Why are you continuing your revisionism, anon? What are you even trying to achieve?