/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6244607]

Why would you put a arcade machine in your home? Why not just use a fight stick and a CRT?

[Anonymous No.6244613]

so you can have a delightful talk explaining to your wife why you need so much space for childish toys

[Anonymous No.6244618]

For the sake of playing on original hardware as intended. Granted, I've never seen the point of owning something like a candy cab that wasn't tailored to any specific game.

[Anonymous No.6244619]

>>6244613
>Take wife out to the barcade
>now she wants a couple cabs and pinball machines in the garage

Sorry you're pretending to have married the wrong woman, anon.

[Anonymous No.6244624]

Because we grew up watching movies and shows where either rich or really cool kids had them and now we're old enough to do it. It's less expensive than actual boomer hobbies like corvettes and boats.

[Anonymous No.6244643]

>>6244613
candy cab > wife

[Anonymous No.6244669]

>>6244607
Because they're fun to have and use. I guess a supergun would be fine, but I prefer candy cabs.

[Anonymous No.6244772]

>>6244618
You would still be playing on original hardware if you were using a supergun.

[Anonymous No.6244774]

>>6244772
Only some of the original hardware. And definitely not as intended.

[Dillweed No.6244778]

There's something enjoyable about arcade machines. The design, the style, the control panel, RGB monitor, playing games on ACTUAL HARDWARE.

[Anonymous No.6244784]

>>6244778
Again, you can play games on the original PCBs at home via supergun. I would have thought /vr/ would know more about this.

[Anonymous No.6244787]

>>6244774
>And definitely not as intended.
The games were designed to be played in a variety of cabinet sizes and shapes. With different types of joysticks and buttons. The developers also knew there would be home ports and thought about that.

Other hardware would be things like the coin mech. So you're going to put coins into your own arcade machine to play? Nothing more than a man playing pretend.

[Anonymous No.6244791]

>>6244784
You sound like you just today learned about superguns and came to /vr/ to boast about having discovered them. Yes, we know superguns exist. It's still not an authentic experience without the rest of the cab.

[Anonymous No.6244792]

>>6244772
Yeah, I have zero problem with people running arcade boards hooked up to TVs. I've got a few arcade boards hooked up that way myself. However, there absolutely are arcade games that aren't feasible to emulate with that setup. Silent Scope, Holosseum, Dance Dance Revolution, Fighting Mania, and Police 911 are the first few that come to mind. You technically CAN approximate (most of) them, but not well.

[Anonymous No.6244794]

>>6244607
its a matter of who you are. if you are an arcade guy, you own arcade hardware. easy as that.

[Anonymous No.6244807]

>>6244607
Because I’m not a fucking zoomer and I actually remember them existing in the wild.

[Anonymous No.6244937]

>>6244607
Lots of reasons. Cabs can be a very space efficient, easily movable, dedicated gaming setup that isn't complete cringe. Rotatable cabs expand on that. You already look like a complete dork sitting in front of an old TV with a fightan stick on your lap plugged into some nigger rigged PCB. Now you're going to turn that TV on it's side? Virginity I choose you! There's almost no reason no to go with a cab. It's not like anyone else is going to use your CRT for anything else. Unless your life partner uses it to watch black and white foreign films, which I suspect might be an issue for a faggot like you.

[Anonymous No.6245051]

If I could get a NEO GEO MVS with a CRT, I absolutely would put that in my house.

[Anonymous No.6245148]

>>6244792
light-gun and dance games are garbage

[Anonymous No.6245157]

>>6244607
Because Im not ghetto

[Anonymous No.6245282]

>>6245148
False

[Anonymous No.6245375]

>>6244774

I get the "not as intended" argument when it comes to LCDs, poor emulation, and modern controllers, but I don't get why it would apply here.

Assuming the supergun is:

>put in a generic cabinet shape
>with a common control layout
>with authentic arcade buttons/sticks
>with a CRT tv of an appropriate size

Then I don't get how it would be much different from what the devs intended, excluding games with different input types like trackball and dance games.

[Anonymous No.6245387]

>>6245375
Now you're talking about a different thing. That's not "a fight stick and a CRT", that's a homemade arcade cabinet. That's probably good enough for most people and most games, even if it isn't strictly authentic.

[Anonymous No.6245398]

>>6245375
Depending on quality of build, just buying a cab outright could often be a better deal from a time and cost of parts perspective. While I'm sure cab prices have gone up, I think I was able to get an Astro City for around $450 (+shipping) and a craigslist-bought Neo Candy (+local delivery) for around the same price. Having to round up all the parts and then the effort to assemble would outweigh the cost of either of those two cabs at least. Others I have were more expensive, though.

[Anonymous No.6245413]

>>6245375
You don't NEED a supergun if you're building a dedicated cab. You can just take the monitor out of the TV and wire your JAMMA setup to it. Superguns are only for if you still need your TV to do TV things, so you can't take them apart.

[Anonymous No.6245536]

>>6245051
Depending on where you are, several common revisions aren't that bad price wise.

[Anonymous No.6245698]

>>6245148
>my mommy won't let me play with toy guns and i have no rhythm or coordination

>>6245413
>You can just take the monitor out of the TV and wire your JAMMA setup to it
Not if you don't have an RGB TV

[Anonymous No.6245797]

>>6245698
Nah, at the arcade I work at, we just pick up CRTs off craigslist and use them as spare monitors. Some TVs do require a video converter, but a lot of times you can just soldier the RGB wires directly into the TV's board and it works fine. I'm not the one who does that, though.

[Anonymous No.6245834]

>>6244618
The main advantage of candy cabs is you put 5 million games on them and thanks to the universal control scheme of 99% of arcade games they'll all work.

[Anonymous No.6245847]

So just random question, around what time did arcade cabinets stop using CRTs? Because I know someone that has a vanilla Street Fighter 4 cabinet and that thing natively uses an LCD and it's from 2008.

[Anonymous No.6245872]

>>6245847
Konami's rhythm games made the switch in 2007, if you want to use that as a metric.

[Anonymous No.6245912]

>>6245847
Tekken 5 had a CRT in 2004, Tekken 6 had LCD in 2007.

Tekken 5 cabs are strange things, just this side of being a Japanese style cabinet.

[Anonymous No.6245947]

>>6245912
I'm not all that familiar with that particular machine, but just going by the way it looks, it was probably something similar to the Naomi Standard. The Japanese version of the cab had a feature where you could adjust the height between a stand-up mode and a candy cab-esque sit-down mode. The US version is almost identical aside from not being able to lower the height. But non-Sega arcade hardware isn't all that well documented, so I can't say for sure.

[Anonymous No.6246290]

>>6245797
It must suck to be mopping the floor in an arcade hoping you'll move up the ladder as you learn and gain experience only to be laughed at and told tall tales by the guys who work with the actual machines.

[Anonymous No.6246560]

>>6246290
No, he's right. Most later CRT TVs' video chips can read RGB signals, so you can soldier the inputs directly onto the pins. It's SUPER easy to fuck up, so it's not something I'd let anyone without experience in TV repair try.

[Anonymous No.6246623]

>>6244607
because it's badass

[Anonymous No.6246625]

>>6244613
>wife in charge of such decisions

[Anonymous No.6247293]

>>6246560
>no he's me
lol
>TVs' video chips can read RGB signals
You got it backwards champ. The video chips "read" another signal and convert it to RGB. The electron guns don't pew pew in composite.

[Anonymous No.6247313]

>>6245947
Nice collection, I'm surprised I'd never heard of that Lupin game before. I also really like the little stool in front of Virtua Tennis for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6247315]

>>6247293
Not that guy, but TVs with on-screen displays (i.e. most of them from the '90s onward) have RGB inputs available on the jungle IC, and a lot of they time they're analog. There's a huge thread over at the shmups forum about modding consumer sets for RGB input. I've personally done four of them so far and the results are great (even if my CRT photography skills aren't great).

[Anonymous No.6247327]

>>6244613
My wife literally doesn't give a shit. She said put it next to the bar and make sure she can play ms. pac man, dig dug, joust, and Q-Bert on it.

I got one of those shitty multi-game arcade boxes and a Jamma selector and set it up with a 4 slot Neo Geo on #1 and the Alibaba special on #2.

I caught her playing Metal Slug once.

[Anonymous No.6247475]

>>6247327
Cute post anon. Too bad I'm a forever alone frogposter

[Anonymous No.6247963]

All I want is this product

>flat pack of pre-cut, drilled, and painted MDF panels
>will fit up to a 19" CRT
>assembled together via screwdriver and locking cams
>shaped something like a candy cab

I can do all the wiring and electronics. Most other hobbyists can. But the woodworking is out of my element and access. The same would go for a lot of other hobbyists.

They already make various wooden cabinet kits in the western styles, but as far as I have ever seen nobody makes a candy cab shaped kit.

[Anonymous No.6247970]

>>6247963
someone made a project in the realm of what I'm describing. A finished project would be painted and have internal speakers.

[Anonymous No.6248367]

>>6247315
Do you think anyone isn't aware of that? Do you think anyone wasn't aware of that before you? Do you think arcades are doing that?

[Anonymous No.6248387]

>>6244607
Does anyone know why we western people needed acrade cabinets with images of the actual game all over and not this comfy Japanese 1 for all style?

[Anonymous No.6248676]

>>6248387
Yes

[Anonymous No.6248717]

>>6247963

Same here. I don't care about having an actual candy cabinet, I just want something in the same shape. Wiring is no issue, just woodworking.

[Anonymous No.6248719]

>>6248387
Advertising.

[Anonymous No.6248720]

I'm thinking getting some arcade PCBs. What's the best way to store them when not in a machine? I know many come in a plastic casing already, but most don't. I wouldn't be willing to risk leaving them bare when not in use.

[Anonymous No.6248826]

>>6248720
get a cheap cardboard box for each. you could even use a pizza box for smaller PCBs

[Anonymous No.6249147]

>>6248367
>Do you think arcades are doing that?
Yes? Bigger retro arcades do it because it's the only reasonable way to maintain 100+ games. I know Hyperspace in Denver and Garcade in Milwaukee both do it, for example. I assume Barcade in New York does, too.

[Anonymous No.6249321]

>>6249147
I know you're bullshitting. I know because it's a retarded hackaday cringe mod that no one who runs an arcade would use. There are much better, and easier, ways to repurposed consumer tubes for arcade machines.
So the question is only this. Is this zoomer bullshit your original fabrication or are you parroting some other zoomer who's just as stupid as you but a little more creative. Enquiering minds want to know.

[Anonymous No.6249324]

>>6248720
A lot of people use usps priority shipping boxes. Wrap the pcb in some bubble wrap and keep it in the box.