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Kazuhisa Hashimoto, the programmer who created the Konami code, has passed away yesterday.

Which makes me think
Nobody even knows what they look like or anything about them, at best they have a short interview in some lost micom magazine, their last credited game was gungage they might as well have died twenty years ago
Why are creative, skilled, mastermind Japanese programmers so unwilling to have any sort of public presence whatsoever other than their name in the credits, meanwhile composers (like technouchi, who reported his death) all have social media accounts and actively interact with fans going as far as meeting up with them at tgms and m3

RIP Mr. Hashimoto, but like, fuck

>> No.6227839

a lot of them change pseudonym when working for a different company

>> No.6227842

I could put up any picture of a japanese dude from the 80s and say it's him. they knew we didn't really care. Shigeru had to be known for decades in order to have americans be able to differentiate him from the rest of japan.

>> No.6227843

F

>> No.6227856

>>6227831
They did it for pay and maybe introverted.

>> No.6227863

>> No.6227936

>>6227831
Why isn't this thread a sticky yet?

>> No.6228001
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F

>> No.6228006

>>6227831

It seems like Japanese creators stay away from celebrity and the spotlight. The same is true of most mangaka who have strictly private lives. Musicians seem to be more public.

Maybe people who work in the world of manga and games, aka "otaku" interests, are more likely to shy away from the spotlight because they don't want society as a whole to identify them as such.

>> No.6228046

What's wrong with not wanting to be in the spotlight? Some people just aren't seeking validation in that manner and are perfectly satisfied without it.

>> No.6228254

>>6227936
It just got a sticky on /v/.

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>>6227831

>> No.6228267

>>6227831
I feel like that code will live on for as long as video games exist. Rest in peace you mad bastard.

>> No.6228279

>>6227831
/v/ stickied this shit and you guys can't?

>> No.6228306

>>6228279
threads on /v/ die after 10 mins of no posting, over here it takes a day until a thread is bumped off.

>> No.6228307
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>go to the sticky on /v/
>first 100 posts are nothing but shitposting

>> No.6228309

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IRXuvWbN3g&list=PL1BDE32E133200295&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezISQchcvlo
Maybe not the most important dev out there, but a world with out gradius isn't one i want to live in.
RIP Mr Hashimoto.

>> No.6228316

>>6227831
are there pachinko-machines accepting this code in some way?

>> No.6228318

>>6228307
Zoomers just can't stop zooming

>> No.6228324

>>6228307
kek: >>>/v/497465670

>> No.6228327

>>6227831
>Why are creative, skilled, mastermind Japanese programmers so unwilling to have any sort of public presence whatsoever other than their name in the credits
Because they are genuine artists who care only about their craft. Video games only ever became elevated to the level of fine art in Japan. Everywhere else, they're merely a petty escape for the terminally bored.

>> No.6228330

People die all the time

>> No.6228331

STICKY

>> No.6228334

>>6228330
When people die it gives an opportunity to reflect on their work.

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>>6227831
So the last time he worked on a game was 20+ years ago, and the only thing he contributed was an input in games where you can cheat and get extra lives? Game composers deserve stickies over this guy.

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/v/ HERE
Why do old black women love BWC so much?

>> No.6228341

>>6228006
Looking at video game and manga consumers it would probably be best that those sorts of people wouldn't know you.

>> No.6228342 [DELETED] 

>>6228335
How about you eat shit and die faggot

>> No.6228346 [DELETED] 

>>6228342
Wow, very mature. Why are you even on /vr/ if you're under 18?

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>>6227843
>>6228001
>>6228258
Is there anything more low quality and disingenuous than "le F"?

Gayer than Facebook-tier "1 like = 1 heaven" posts.

>> No.6228351

>>6228330
Sure but not all people are worth remembering for what they've done. I'm sure most people won't care about you when you're not here anymore.

>> No.6228362 [DELETED] 

>>6228350
>Is there anything more low quality and disingenuous than "le F"?
Shitting up In Memoriam stickies with childish complaints? The F comes from the heart.

>> No.6228367 [DELETED] 

>>6228362
>The F comes from the heart.

>my "le F" true gamer epic moment meme (only gamers will get this!) single letter response is more epicer than a post detailing how much the man contributing to gaming by introducing an input code into games that other developers followed

Wow, great contribution to the thread! An "F" to you, my good gentlesir!

My post highlighted the man's career and his contributions. What did your post contribute?

>> No.6228381

That's sad. He was apparently only 61.

>> No.6228395

>>6228381
That's fucking terrible.
I'm not looking forward to the day I turn 60 (if that day comes), I don't know how I'd handle knowing that the end of my life might be so close. I know that you can die at any age of course, but still.

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Boohoo another chinese man killed himself, too fucking bad, i'm glad the person who invented cheats and would go on to inspire the creation of microotransactions is dead.

t. 16 year old Femanon from /v/ who's right.

>> No.6228402

>>6228330
no, people die only once

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>>6227831
>Why are creative, skilled, mastermind Japanese programmers so unwilling to have any sort of public presence whatsoever other than their name in the credits
>American struggling with non-individualistic society, episode 6227831

>> No.6228405 [DELETED] 

>>6228046
Explain that to Yanks
Hard mode: explain society that considered anonymity of a creator a fundamental part of being a creator to someone as individualistic and self-absorbed as an American

>> No.6228418 [DELETED] 

Good riddance, fuck him for including a crutch that casual shitplayers used instead of just gitting gud at games.

>> No.6228420

>>6228381
that's like 250 in salaryman years

>> No.6228421

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99oLr22eTzk

>> No.6228427

>>6228395
>turn 60
>live till 100, spend 40 years worrying you're gonna die

>> No.6228435

>>6228006
>It seems like Japanese creators stay away from celebrity and the spotlight
Kojima? Kamiya? Miyamoto? Taro?

There are at least as many jap creators than revel in their celebrity as their western counterparts, which would put them wildly out of proportion when you consider how small japan is compared to the entirety of the west.

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What happens if I enter the code now?
^ ^ v v < > < > A B

>> No.6228457

God damn I was just playing Gradius this morning to test out my new arcade stick. RIP Hashimoto-San.

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>>6228448

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>>6228464
This isn't as funny because right as I posted it I noticed that anon fucked up the code.

>> No.6228483

>>6227831
RIP

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6228528

>tfw I wanted to make the "it's ok, he still has 29 more lives" joke but someone on /v/ already did

>> No.6228551

thread theme https://youtu.be/Yz6t6wCJV3Q

>> No.6228581

>>6227831
He didn't use L and R and so he self-destructed.

>> No.6228629

>>6228448
it will work with tmnt manhattan project

>> No.6228639

>>6227831
some people enjoy being in the spotlight while others don't
and some people are good at building cults around their person
how many legendary western programmers are media personalities? not many if any, and if you google them you'll find like 13 different pictures of them in low res.

>> No.6228642

>>6228639
carmack

>> No.6228673

>>6228642
yeah but he's rare, guys like him and Sweeney are arguably as much businessmen as they are engineers. might as well throw in Gabe Newell in that group

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Never mind you guys I spoke too soon, he does have a social media account!
https://twitter.com/upupdd

I'm not fucking kidding that's his twitter account, the details in the bio match up with those on his facebook account shown in some japanese media, plus he's following GameStaff@Wiki (which he doesn't even have an article on)
Anyways i was thinking he might have an interview in this since he was a programmer for snes gradius iii and softbank magazines tend to have good interviews, but judging by the fact that the only two scanned issues of this magazine have valken and dkc on the covers and are about ffv and dqvi respectively i doubt it

>>6228006
>>6228327
this is kinda what i was going for in the op, we all know those elusive programmers who make brilliant games, say "video games are dead" in an obscure interview, and then disappear for twenty years at a time (like ygw)

>> No.6228842

>>6228817
ygw? what about the guy who did terranigma?

>> No.6228865

>>6228639
Sid Meijer, Will Wright, David Jaffe

uh David Crane?

Yeah, the names that are coming to mind are all famous moreso as designers /directors.

>> No.6228890

You fags can quit acting sentimental.

Game designers/programmers "stayed out of the spotlight" because they were often encouraged to use aliases to prevent from being head hunted from competing companies. That and also they just treated game design as work and didn't develop some faggot cult of personality that they were these artistic gods deserving reverence.

>> No.6228894

>>6228817
He spent his last years relentlessly spamming twitter about Clash of Kings. How absolutely based.

>> No.6228895

>>6228890
I believe the director who worked on the first street fighter was head hunted by SNK to make fatal fury.

>> No.6228928

>>6227831
I know this will trigger some people but it’s because nobody gives a shit about coders. They are like the construction worker to the planner/designer’s architect. And inb4 you think I’m overly critical, lots of Jap developers have conceded this opinion which is why they went from programmer to designer so they had more creative control instead of just following someone’s orders.
Coder is the design team’s bitch. It’s rare to find one like Yuji Naka who is able to have a profound influence and they are more just unsung heroes.

>> No.6228969

>>6228006
>It seems like Japanese creators stay away from celebrity and the spotlight
You what, off the top of my head I can name people like Suda51, SWERY, Yoko Taro, Kojima, Inafune, Kamiya, Uchikoshi and so much more that revel in the spotlight. Every other Japanese game has either a really known director or someone else on the team like artist or composer.

>> No.6228979

>>6227831
Wouldn't he had 29 more lives though?

>> No.6229007

>>6228979
See >>6228581

>> No.6229080

>>6227831
Rest in peace, Hashimoto.
I knew ye not, but thanks a lot.

>> No.6229085

>>6227831
RIP

>> No.6229092

May he rest in peace.

>> No.6229103

>>6227831
F
Also good to OP for not adding an extra "B,A" like most mooks do.

>> No.6229104

>>6229103
What always gets me is not being sure if its just start at the end, or select start

>> No.6229109

>>6229104
You only need to hit select in the code if you want two players, for Contra at least. But if you're using the code for Contra you suck at Contra and all games in general. Still, back in the day I'd do the code for fun anyway and then promise to hit reset if I died even once. That was my way.

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>>6229109
Ah, that'd explain the confusion.
I always just tried both anyway cause it seemed like it was always one or the other, but the "select start" variant is always the one that comes to my mind first, I guess cause I usually played with a friend, so this would explain why its so often left out

>> No.6229113

>>6227842
I mean no offense to anyone when I state the fact that most Japanese men are short and have black hair with small eyes. Can you imagine giving a police description in Japan?

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>>6227831
>62 measly posts

holy shit, is /vr/ THIS fucking dead? The /v/ sticky has like 700 posts and counting now

>> No.6229240

>>6229223
/v/ is one of the biggest boards on this website as opposed to this one. Furthermore more traffic doesn't say anything about how much something means on one board.

>> No.6229241

>>6229223
It isn't that /vr/ is dead, it's that it's become even more completely overrun with /pol/ than /v/. The retards here literally don't even play video games, just spout e-celeb opinions at each other and larp about console wars that they weren't even alive for.

>> No.6229354

What is the best Gradius game?

>> No.6229360

>>6229354
3 imo, but they're all pretty kino.
IIRC the PSP has a really great little collection

>> No.6229385

>>6229223
Retro games are a niche hobby, it's to be expected

>> No.6229390

>>6229223
And that's a good thing. Honestly, it was nice of the mods to sticky this but it wasn't necessary for such a slow board. The thread would've stayed up for at least a week without a sticky.

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Imagine being a Japanese guy in the '80s telling your parents that you work in video games. That explains your low profile. Not like shameless Americans who need to broadcast how they're different from people who work for a living.

>> No.6229486

>>6229354
Not /vr/, but V. By a mile.

>> No.6229513

>>6229223
This board has a very small niche appeal compared to /v/, which is literally everything.

>> No.6229585

>>6229223
Ppl here suck ass and are the worst contrarian posers on earth.

>> No.6229665

RIP

>> No.6229835

>>6229223
Zoomers who have never played a console game

Also rip

>> No.6229841

>>6229835
But this is a guy who literally made your video games easier... I thought you didn't want zoomers to be casual?

>> No.6229851

>>6229241
>Rent free

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Please tell me you aren't going to cry over a Japanese game development employee that you never even met like retards did with Satoru Iwata.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEFIyTtA3Gg

>> No.6229983 [DELETED] 

>>6229946
That's the cringiest thing I've seen in probably the last month

>> No.6230065 [DELETED] 

>>6229983
Please understand.

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>>6229946
Hey, at least one of the comments in the video is right about something.

>> No.6230138 [DELETED] 

Fuck this Japanese faggot I'm glad he's dead.

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>> No.6230214

>>6230195
Well he sure got a lot of (YOU)'s for that.

>> No.6230219

>>6229841
zoomers can't into inputs, the konami code in itself is a challenge for them.

>> No.6230237

>>6227831
99.99999999999% (around there as 108 billion humans have ever existed) of humans are completely forgotten with not even a dirt mound to forget them by. Ignoring that 100 billion before, There are too many people alive for even semi "famous" people to be remembered.

>> No.6230239

>>6229465
>Being 13
>Posting as if people that work don't work
lol enjoy it while it lasts, kid.

>> No.6230242

>>6229241
/vr/ died when every other website, 5+ years ago, decided that retro is all of 6th gen. /vr/ won't follow suit so it will keep losing population. At least most of the interesting "generals" from /vr/ have migrated to discord or other sites so they won't be dissipated by no users.

>> No.6230312

>>6229354
>>6229360
If you decide to play 3 check out the PS2 port with slowdown removed.

>> No.6230471

>>6229585
Dude just go to gamefaqs if you wanna circle jerk mainstream shit

>> No.6230714

>>6227831
>Why are creative, skilled, mastermind Japanese programmers so unwilling to have any sort of public presence whatsoever
Well for one thing programmers are usually not the type of people to seek fame.
Also, according to what I've read around the internet, Japanese companies back then were actually very protective of their coders' identities to avoid them being poached by other companies.

>> No.6230727

>>6228420
aren't the longest lived people in the world japs tho

>> No.6230915

The reason for this is because Konami didn't want other companies offering to pay their employees more. Because if Capcom or some other company bought out their talent, they'd have no quality developers. It was common for this era. Another example being that no one knows who created Castlevania.

>> No.6230972

>>6228006
Lead devs and directors these days tend to have at least a little social media presence, and definitely partake in interviews, not just the really big names like Hideo Kojima. Not every mangaka does, but most of the ones who have a series with some popularity tend to, at least to an extent, you don't need to be a really big and notable one like Kentaro Miura or Hirohiko Araki, smaller time guys like Hiroe Rei, or even the anonymous authors of WataMote (a series more popular with gaijins than the Japanese), will do interviews and talk some on social media.
I imagine the 'climate' may not be the same with a lot of the older game devs in Japan, however.

>>6228046
Quite possible.

>>6228642
Carmack is a really rare animal, in more ways than one. The reason he's talking to media people is because he knows that there's people out there who'll actually understand the technical stuff he talks about and want to hear it, he's probably a lot less interested in making it about himself (at least that's the vibe I always got).

Compare instead to his old pal Romero, who loves the limelight and attention, and infamously let it inflate his ego past its britches, which even his fans make fun of him for to this day. He's much more social about it, and he's definitely much more infatuated with the idea of being famous, whereas people could forget Carmack today and he wouldn't care as long as he could keep doing computer science developments.

>> No.6230981

>>6229223
It's a mostly slow board, you sped, it's not rare for a normal thread to last a week, longer if it's a subject people are interested in.

>>6229113
That's ok, Japanese police almost never conduct real criminal investigations, they only do one if they think they can find a guy who could plausibly be a perpetrator (whether or not it can be proved he actually is), then torture him into signing a confession.
This is why they report really low crime rates, and why their reported 99% conviction rate should actually come across as incredibly alarming.

>> No.6230985

>>6230915
That's what I've always been told, but you figure someone must have come up with some employment contracts or something to make it less of a problem.

>> No.6231001

>>6230915
>no one knows who created Castlevania.
I know who did it, it was Christopher Bee.

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>>6228001

>> No.6231010

>>6230915
>Another example being that no one knows who created Castlevania.
Wasn't it Akamatsu? He's still fairly obscure, but in recent years more info on him surfaced, and one or two very small pics.

>> No.6231139

>>6227831
Kojima : My games are the best

>> No.6231145

>>6231139
>Kojima
>Games

>> No.6231151

>>6231139
>>6231145
I like antartic adventure 2 but holy shit kojima is overrated

>> No.6231262

>>6231010
Yes, Castlevania was most likely created by Hitoshi Akamatsu. Though that might be a pseudonym and his real name could still be unknown. He also disappeared 30 years ago. No idea if he's still out there. He'd be 56-57 years old by now.

>> No.6231271

>>6229223
It's not a fast board and 90% of posts in /v/'s sticky were meta shitflinging over what should be a sticky and what shouldn't anyway.

>> No.6231298 [DELETED] 

Gay thread

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>> No.6231608

>>6227831
I bet he would have absolutely hated this "man who created up up" this. He did much more than start a shitty meme.

>> No.6231676

>>6227831
>Why are creative, skilled, mastermind Japanese programmers so unwilling to have any sort of public presence whatsoever
Same reason as creative, skilled, mastermind western programmers. They're programmers. We hate dealing with that kind of shit. Rather code.

>> No.6231710 [DELETED] 

>>6227831
which fag mod stickied this literally who? nobody cares you loser

>> No.6231759

>>6231608
>He did much more than start a shitty meme.
Sure, but this is a video game message board.
Is it really that absurd to take a moment to appreciate the dude that invented cheat codes?
I don't really think his killer omlette recipe is /vr/ material

>> No.6232506

>>6228817
So what was so special about Clash of Kings to him?

>> No.6233050

>>6228395
At one point you mature and accept it. There's a reason old people have always said to be wise throughout history

>> No.6233056

>>6230195
4chan is literally no better than reddit at this point. So much for "free speech" and "not being snowflakes like redditors".

Still, F for him.

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Good memories.

>> No.6233360

He may rest in peace. His death and this thread allowed me to pay more attention to the forgotten japanese coders who started this industry back in the days. Many will remain a mystery, but I will try to at least know about their names from now on. I think is the least I can do to pay my respects and to thank them for building this industry.

>> No.6233471

>>6233056
>So much for "free speech" and "not being snowflakes like redditors".
That was never what 4chan was about you retard, its just a place to talk about your hobbies.

>> No.6235278

Wew lad