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You should play a Breath of Fire game.

>> No.6200172

>>6200168
You should grow up.

>> No.6200186
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>>6200168
I'm 18hours into BoF3 but I haven't played it in 6months. No idea wtf I'm supposed to do or where to go.

Should I restart or just wander around until I figure it out? Or just start BoF4 ?

>> No.6200196

>>6200168
>>6200168
2 > 1 > POWER GAP > 4 > 3

>> No.6200212

>>6200196
Nah 4 is easily the best one followed by either 2 (my pref) or arguably 3.
1 is fairly mediocre.

>> No.6200214

>>6200168

sell me on it, how does it compare to the other ps greats?

>> No.6200221

>>6200214
9/11
Its fine

>> No.6200336
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>>6200186
make a camp and speak to your party members

>> No.6200340

>>6200336
Right I totally forgot about that
Awesome

>> No.6200378

What's the appeal of RPGs like these? Is there any gameplay? Will someone who's never played them like them?

>> No.6200403
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>>6200378
>is there gameplay?
If you mean running the same 5 stages over and over, in the exact same way, and restarting when you get hit once, no, definitely no #gameplay.
If you mean going on an adventure with surprises, a clear beginning and end, with lots of things to figure out and plenty of problems and battles to conquer then MAYBE.

>> No.6200405

>>6200168
>smoke vanish leaf
Damn that's anime as fuck

>> No.6200419

Ok I'm heading to Angel Tower and I need a boat from Rhapala. Seems straight forward.

Not sure if I should use Momo or Nina?

>> No.6200423

are they all furry games

>> No.6200432

>>6200403
>If you mean going on an adventure with surprises, a clear beginning and end
Are you talking about reading a book or watching a movie?
I mean gameplay, like when you play Pong, or PacMan, or Tetris, or a sport in real life or something.

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>>6200212
having a real hard time deciding between breath of fire 3 and 4. And I remember them well enough unlike bof2. BoF3 had the better dragon system by far , better camera perspective and mechanics....but the story... As cool looking as the final boss gets when she stops pretending to be a gentle caring goddess (if she even was that to begin with, I think implication is she is some artificial construct with major control issues/delusions of grandeur?), obviously the final boss in bof4 is more interesting since you actually play as the dude and get to see his perspective.

>>6200432
What a weird way to think of playing a game. I guess cars games don't have gameplay?

>>6200419
Why not both?

>> No.6200448

>>6200446
>cars games
_Card games_

>> No.6200458

>>6200446
Card games aren't video games, so no they don't have video game gameplay.
I do like playing poker with my family.

>> No.6200487

>>6200458
Well jrpgs have gameplay more like card games or boardgames, embedded in a world to explore, with some story elements. they're not for everyone. ... If you want action then try an action rpg, but I'm not familiar with those myself.

>> No.6200527

>>6200487
Doesn't seem like much gameplay, but maybe I'll have my grandmother try them, she likes to watch TV during the day.

>> No.6200619

>>6200336
top comfy

>> No.6201346

>>6200619
It's a feature more rpgs should have imo

>> No.6201360
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2 - 4 are all considered to be great JRPGs. Dragon Quarter...well, I've never played it. Back in the day, DQ was considered to be absolute trash, but lately people have been calling it an underrated classic, so I can't really say.

>> No.6201384

>>6201360
If DQ hadn't been billed as a BoF game people would love it

>> No.6201385

>>6201346
Grandia II did it well.

>> No.6201393

>>6200405
>Japanese RPG by a japanese company
Who'd have thought.

>> No.6201398

>>6200168
No.

>> No.6201556

>>6201398
Why?

>> No.6201562

>>6201556
No.

>> No.6201697

>>6200527
Your grandmother plays video games? Fucking seriously dude?

>> No.6201713

>>6200186
I don't remember that space ship. Was that int he game?

>> No.6201721

>>6201697
Not yet but the activities she enjoys (solving puzzles and crosswords, watching sports on TV, playing bingo) seem to require the same low skill level as this genre so she might enjoy them. Any recommendations for games besides Breath of Fire?

>> No.6201918

>>6201721
Can I fuck your grandma bro

>> No.6201921

>>6200168
I already did
Maybe instead you should stop reposting the same thread multiple times, this isn't /v/

>> No.6201931

>>6201360
The problem with Dragon Quarter wasn't just >>6201384. It was also the fact that the game places a timer on you, one that's only truly "reset" by starting a game over. Majora's Mask was already tough for people to approach and that game had a lot of ways to mitigate its timer, but in DQ once Ryu gets his Dragon form, you get pressured. It's not exactly tight, and if you abuse Party EXP gained through battles before rewinding to your last save, you theoretically may not even have to use the Dragon mode, but then the best method of destroying some really nasty bosses also accelerates the timer. It's just too much for the casual consumer, you gotta grit your teeth and really take in consequences per action with it.

>> No.6202008

>>6201360
>2 - 4 are all considered to be great JRPGs.
They each have some flaws but overall I agree they qualify as great. Not a fan of 1 or D.Quarter though.


>>6201721
>seem to require the same low skill level as this genre so she might enjoy them.
Skill to do what? Skill implies you're aiming for a goal and there's a standard to compare yourself to.
The best BoF3 players can beat it in under 9 hours, at low-level with low-gear.
The average BoF3 player will take over 40hours, at high-level with good gear. There is a skill gap when you think of it this way. If you have no context of what is being done then you won't know where you stand on the skill ladder.

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>>6202008
When people speedrun JRPGs do they do it in one sitting or are they allowed to use save points?

>> No.6202013

>>6200403

so no, got it.

>> No.6202125

>>6202010
There's usually segmented and continuous categories for most games. But continuous is the most common.

>> No.6202152
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BoF Ryu > SF Ryu

>> No.6202228

>>6200168
no u

>> No.6202235

>>6201921
It's one of the most important retro series. Chill out

>> No.6202363
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this thread needs more art!

>> No.6202375

>>6202152
It legit pisses me off that /ourryu/ never made it into any of the Capcom crossover games, MvC etc.

>> No.6202425

>>6201713
Yeah, that's the final area

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>>6201931
>It was also the fact that the game places a timer on you, one that's only truly "reset" by starting a game over.
This is a bit deceptive to anyone who hasn't read the manual or played the game. I like to describe Dragon Quarter as the perfect example of "choose your own difficult" in game design. The game gives you three options whenever you game over
>SOL: Restart
>SOL: Restore
>The End

The first option is what sends you back to the beginning of the game and resets your character's levels. However, in both Restart and Restore you keep any skills, equipped or stored weapons, and Party Xp (a floating bank of experience points to be used whenever). In addition to this, based on performance the types of enemies you encounter will be different and stronger ones. You will also unlock new cutscenes that flesh out some events.

SOL: Restore sends you to the last save point and does the same as Restore with regards to inventory and skills.

The end is just that, you take a game over and just reload your last save.

So for players who try and complete the game on a single run; the timer of the game, the D-counter, will really start to ramp up the tension as just walking around brings you closer to death and it more heavily restricts your usage of dragon form. This is what a lot of people bounce off of since they might not realize how to game the system. Meanwhile other players will abuse Restore to also beat the game since you can more freely use dragon form to destroy any and all encounters at the cost of getting a poorer rating upon completing the game since the game does grade you on exploration, combat, and whether or not you played everything from start to finish in a single go.

It's definitely the Gaiden game of the franchise but if more people are finally warming up to it that's good in my books. DQ was my first BoF title and I loved it despite realizing it's very different from it's predecessors.

>> No.6202439

>>6202428
Consider that the first game in the series can be completely beaten by avoiding random encounters and just using dragon forms on the bosses. I understand what they were attempting to do now with a bit of hindsight.

Beating BOF1 with no random encounters feels liberating.

>> No.6202442

>>6202439
>Consider that the first game in the series can be completely beaten by avoiding random encounters and just using dragon forms on the bosses
I hadn't gotten around to the first game and I didn't know that, but now that I do I might just try that one out. That actually sounds very fun.

>> No.6202447

>>6202442
https://youtu.be/Qg0cOx0CRxU

This got me hooked. Watch him and you will see the basic structure of how to play the game in a huff.

>> No.6202475

>>6202447
>RPG Limit Break
Not ashamed to say I just watch these guys and ignore GDQ and the like. Will give it a look.

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rpg codex is a great site for japanese and western rpg discussion

>> No.6202859

>>6202428
>SOL

How aptly chosen

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>>6202447
Going to include this because now I have a screen cap of what to do.

>> No.6202878

>>6202862
>smoke item doesn't work
FUCK I FUCKING KNEW IT

>> No.6203164

>>6202375
Even if they were worried about Ryu’s name being redundant, I’m surprised they never added Nina or someone.

>> No.6203189

>>6202375
For some reason I think the 3 crew only ever cameo'd in like, Super Pocket Fighter on a single stage, and that was it on games.

>> No.6203721

>>6200527
>>6201721
>tfw no weeb grandma to watch anime with

>> No.6203791

>>6202878
it does work (for running away in battle)

>> No.6203885
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Played them all on release. 1 is still my favorite if only because it was my very first RPG.

>The NA artwork is kino fuck the haters

>> No.6203980

>>6203885
I wish I played BoF1 when it came out, there's too many other rpgs I wanna try now...

>> No.6204017

>>6203885
Is the artwork unpopular? It looks cool.

>> No.6204049

I've always been hesitant to play them because of the blatant furry aspect

>> No.6204083

I'll play through all of them once a collection is put on modern consoles.

>> No.6204087

>>6204083
I'm playing BoF3 on my Vita (psp version).

>> No.6204132

>>6204087
based chad gamer

>> No.6204174

>>6203885
breath of fire needs more love

>> No.6206168

>>6201360
Dragon Quarter is meh to be honest and I tell you that after finishing it years ago. I don’t even remember strong moments or even musics. The idea is cool but they ruined it with soulles characters and blank areas and your rival is like one of the worst piece of shit you cannot imagine, it’s literally a copy of Drago Malefoy.

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>>6201713
Orbital Station Myria. Super technologically advanced fortress from a lost civilization. The goddess of the world watches from the sky- safe from the desert of death.

>> No.6207510
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Anyone know who the character in front of the moon is?

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>>6207510
Fou Lu's default dragon form.

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>>6204087
I'm at Angel tower. When do Ryu and Nina grow up? I want to see cool Ryu, and sexy Nina...tired of these kid versions.

>> No.6207879

>>6207863
After boss of Angel Tower, so you're almost there.

>> No.6207880

>>6207879
Sweet thanks

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I'm reminded that for whatever reason, Ryu, Teepo and Nina all use concept designs for their young sprites instead of the finalized art work or how the ending depicts Ryu and Nina. In fact, the concept art work reminds me of the first two games compared to the more modern and sleeker final art.

>> No.6208097

>>6203164
Teepo could have filled in since he can dragon form as well or the bof 4 villain

>> No.6208323

>>6207919
Yoshikawa decided during development he wanted to change the artstyle, giving us the now iconic style the series is known for from III onward. At this point though sprites for everyone was already made and they were based on his initial designs. Instead of creating brand new sprites for the redesigns Capcom just said "fuck it" and kept the originals.

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>>6207863
Heresy. The childhood arc is the comfiest.

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>>6200172
I did.

>> No.6209941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQy8ktTe5ZE

If you didn't grind Beyd until you couldn't beat him and then watch him one-shot Zig to the tune of several hundred damage, you didn't truly finish the minigame.

>> No.6209980

Playing through III, just crossed the sea and I'll take a little break from the game
All the mini games wore me out