DIABLO 1 & 2: WILL IT ROLL NIGHTWING Edition

[Anonymous No.6177054]

Discuss all things Diablo and Diablo 2 here

> Best D2 wiki out there
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Main_Page
> > RESET WHEN
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73916272
> Guide to rune hunting in LK current to 1.13+
https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/1-13-lk-patterns.764531/
> Unified Guides and builds on jsp
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69506039
> D2 drop calculatorS
http://dropcalc.silospen.com/item.php
http://mfb.bplaced.net/dropcalc/index.php
Cool D2 promo, concept artworks, monster renderers and more
http://www.mobygames.com/game/diablo-ii/promo
> Version 1.13d, for running off-realm, third-party mods and utils including plugy
http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/diablo2exp/patches/PC/LODPatch_113d.exe
> PlugY injector for improving your SP experience
http://plugy.free.fr/en/index.html
> 3dfx-voodoo glide wrapper, for lighting the way it was meant to be seen
http://www.svenswrapper.de/english/

DIABLO1
> Last semi active D1 community
http://tristr.am/
> Jarulf's Guide (every game mechanic & stat for D1)
http://www.bigd-online.com/JG/JGFrame.html
> D1 game engine engineered
https://github.com/dgengin/DGEngine

[Anonymous No.6177056]

>>6177054
Hahaha rolled IT! 16 items remain for the Grail.

[Anonymous No.6177227]

>>6177056
Yeah but you're using a drop mod so your grail doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.6177865]

Am I going nuts, or didn't TK used to be able to pick up items? I could have sworn I've used it for that in the past.

[Anonymous No.6177870]

>>6177865
It can pick up small items, not equipment.

[Anonymous No.6177957]

>>6177227
16 items remain. Sixteen.

[Anonymous No.6178036]

>>6177865
It hasn't been able to pick up equipment since 1.08.

[Anonymous No.6179480]

>>6177870
>>6178036
Well at least I haven't gone senile yet, but why did they change it? Were people using it to grief, or were they bawwing about it being an unfair advantage? and was it really more important to fix than tomb vipers, gloams and mana burn or any of the other shit that they have never gotten around to fixing in 20 years?

[Anonymous No.6179902]

>>6179480
It meant people using scripts always picked up equipment first and gave a huge advantage to all sorceresses who were already the most advantaged character since the game came out. I can only imagine how god awful it would be nowadays.

[Anonymous No.6179958]

>>6179480
>tomb vipers
If you mean those fuckers with poison javelin at Nihlatak's who can kill your 4k HP barb in an instant, isn't that working as intended? I'm pretty sure my zon's poison javelin worked the same. I don't remember which patch was it, though.

[Anonymous No.6179997]

>>6179958
can someone direct me to where the working as intended quote came from? was it like forum post by a blizz dev? can i still read it somewhere?

[Anonymous No.6180125]

>>6179958
>I'm pretty sure my zon's poison javelin worked the same
Definitely not. When vipers use it, every tick of the poison also hits for physical damage, and the clouds remain active for a couple of seconds after the visual disappears. Damage reduced by X is the best way to survive it, because it doesn't hit hard, it just hits extremely quickly.

[Anonymous No.6181660]

What are some good mods to play? I've already beaten Eastern Sun.

[Anonymous No.6181738]

>>6181660
Plugy with your own mod.

[Anonymous No.6181903]

>>6180125
I can't remember exact details but poison javelin at least used to deal great deal more damage than what it's description said. I will give you that it might have been just additional poison, not physical damage but things still died like flies if they entered the poison cloud and moved in it. It was similar to what those things at Nihlatak's can do to you.

[Anonymous No.6182025]

Favorite class in diablo i?

[Anonymous No.6182307]

Is there a cure for the Diablo 2 autism? I think it's ruining my life.

[Anonymous No.6182331]

>>6182307
I would probably never play d2 again if my plugy folder and its backups were deleted. That said, plugy allows me to play as casually to as hardcore as I want. I'll play for a month or two, and then stop when I get bored of the grind. Pick it up again I'm a few months or longer.

[Anonymous No.6182448]

>>6182307
no, this game has been a blight on my life since the first time I played it over a decade ago. have on and off let it consume entire nights for months at a time. it’s the only game I play where in the back of my mind I’m actively questioning what the point of what I’m doing is, and critique and nitpick a million little things in game, but probably play it more than any other game.

[Anonymous No.6182945]

>>6182331
I would kill myself if I lost my plugy folders

[Anonymous No.6182958]

>>6182025
Something about the Warrior for me that hits the right spot for me. Wish there was decent weapon switching so I could use the bow on the warrior for longer while delving the depths.

[Anonymous No.6183020]

private d2 /v/ server fucking when?

[Anonymous No.6183029]

>>6181903
It keeps applying poison while they're standing in it, so it can kill very quickly, but it's nothing even close to what tomb vipers have. That loud clacking spam when it hits you is the physical damage being applied.

[Anonymous No.6183240]

>>6181903
That has to do with LastCollide. Most missiles (which includes poison clouds) will not hit the same until the missile has hit someone else. So if you have two enemies in the same cloud, they will rapidly have poison damage reapplied to both of them alternatingly, occurring every other frame, which deals at least an extra frame of damage of poison bit rate. So basically, instead of dealing the usual 25 frames of poison bit rate per second, you are applying 37.5 frames of poison bit rate per second, which is equivalent to 1.5x poison damage. This works for Poison Creepers, Rabies, Poison Javelins, Plague Javelins and Poison Explosions but not for Poison Nova since it has NextDelay.

[Anonymous No.6183280]

>>6182945
Seems a bit extreme

[Anonymous No.6183816]

>>6182945
Back up goddamn.

[Anonymous No.6184045]

>>6182958
Personally, I prefer the rogue. Pretty decent at physical combat and magic. Nice to be able to rely on mana shield and a few aoe/multi-target spells while not being completely subjected to resistances and immunities. The high dexterity cap means every hit should land, too.

I think my dream bow will be one that gives mana leech.

[Anonymous No.6184148]

>>6182025

Warrior. Love the aesthetics.

Warriors also have the best end game experience with the highest skill ceiling. Even with great gear you need to be very cautious pulling mobs in Hell. Manipulating enemy AI becomes crucial once they can outrun you. You need to use the grid to your advantage, peak-a-boo kill around corners, get gud at telekilling, and know how to use fire walls to manipulate enemy AI and when you can safely use heal. Also gear switching is more essential for mobs based on enemy AC versus elemental attacks.

The warrior would hugely benefit from a weapon swap to speed him up. King's Sword of Haste for business, King's Sword of Vampires to keep mana up for heal, teleport, and reflect in Hellfire.

Unfortunately only The Hell 2 does this, but it's also a difficulty mod.

Rouge is fun because you can bring her deep at low levels if you kite well.

Sorcerer is only really fun for a single run through where gold and drops limit your spells. With high level fireball, chain lightening, and magic elixers to pump hana, he gets boringly OP. Also it's hard to play sorcerer in a party without killing your allies. The Hell 2 fixes this but all the immunities make playing mage a pain. You end up mostly doing crowd control with walls and a bit of dps. Rouge variants do DPS better and warrior varients are kings of tanking in that mod.

[Anonymous No.6184561]

>>6182945
Same. I backed mine up in 10 different places.

[Anonymous No.6184567]

>>6177056
Nice

[Anonymous No.6184738]

>took me one minute to make it so Sanctuary actually gives enhanced damage and attack rating against undead instead of giving the undead damage and attack rating against the undead
>Blizzard still hasn't fixed this and it has been 20 years
Why

[Anonymous No.6184740]

>>6184045

Unfortunately leech doesn't work for bows in vanilla Diablo. Blood and vampire's suffixes are swords, axes, and maces only.

Pretty sure the Skeleton King's crown only works for melee too.

Bow damage doesn't mean much for how rouge damage is calculated so really one of the best bows is anything with knockback.

[Anonymous No.6185268]

>>6184740
Well, that's disappointing. I know my skeleton king crown didn't work with my bow.

[Anonymous No.6185393]

>>6184738
Blizzard South =/= Blizzard North
Blizzard North were a competent team of coders and devs who were sacked not long after the release of LoD.
Blizzard South are a bunch of west coast latte-sippers that just copy other people's games badly and fill them with lootboxes.

[Anonymous No.6185939]

>>6185393
>who were sacked not long after the release of LoD
Guess that explains why 1.10f was the last major patch. Good thing they made it count.

[Anonymous No.6186051]

I see qlvl for items in diablo i, but I don't know how that actually relates to whether I am going to get a specific drop or not. My understanding has been that the best drops are in hell, but I haven't been able to find any hint about the qlvl of hell.

[Anonymous No.6186123]

>>6184738
what did you do

[Anonymous No.6186405]

Any of you guys ever use a mod to increase HR drop rate? I hate cheating but I am considering it.

[Anonymous No.6186417]

>>6186405
No, never. Refresh LK until you get as perfect chest map, put on a good movie, and speedrun the chests while watching for the orange flash with your peripheral vision.

[Anonymous No.6186418]

>>6186123
All I had to do was move the stats item_undeaddamage_percent and item_undead_tohit from aurastats to passivestats.

[Anonymous No.6186420]

>>6186417
That's what I'm doing. I can tolerate grinding for stuff in games, but 10k average number of runs is kinda dumb. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this shit.

[Anonymous No.6186427]

>>6186420
Watch a couple of movies and you should have a couple Ohms, Los, and Surs.

[Anonymous No.6186451]

>>6186417
>watching for the orange flash with your peripheral vision

Or, he can not be a dummy and use the loot filter instead.

>>6186420
If you're efficient you should be getting one HR per hour. If you're lucky you'll get a Ber in 100 runs.

[Anonymous No.6186453]

>>6186451
If you're going to cheat with a loot filter, might as well use pickit.

[Anonymous No.6187105]

>>6186453
The loot filter is not cheating my nigrah

[Anonymous No.6187253]

It is finally done. After nearly 7 hours of fumbling with calculations that would seemingly randomly return zero instead of the actual results, I have created a ~233 character long spaghetti formula that 100% accurately displays the current missile damage of Raise Skeleton Mage, a skill that virtually no one uses. And holy shit, this made me realize that poison necromages are by far the highest hitting units/spells in the game, dealing 500k+ damage in one hit with enough investment.

[Anonymous No.6187690]

>>6187253
How much damage do they do with typical BIS CE gear?

[Anonymous No.6187797]

>>6187690
Assuming you have +26 to summoning, Marrowwalk, Beast swap and an Infinity merc, you'd be looking at:

>17 mages
>29 frames per attack
>assuming the average monster has 25% elemental resistance, then Infinity reduces resistances to -60%
>fire damage: 17*708*1.6*25/29=16601 DPS
>397.5 cold damage=17*397.5*1.6*25/29=9320 DPS
>600 lightning damage=17*600*1.6*25/29=14069 DPS
>617 poison damage=617*0.75=463 DPS

Cold is pretty much worthless except against bosses, poison is worthless unless you are doing some kind of minimum hit run or have an extremely weak build that needs to cancel life regeneration and the other two deal okay damage, although still pretty bad for the investment required.

[Anonymous No.6187907]

Diablo 2 question: if I set up a LAN game and party up every character, then go off to solo an area, without any of the rest of the party present: is it better than playing SP and just settings players 8?
I'm just wondering if I have to drag them along.

[Anonymous No.6187970]

>>6187907
might be more fun to have others in the same game

[Anonymous No.6187973]

I haven't playes d2 in ages and could use some recommendations. I want to play a character that is pretty easy to set up and stays fairly strong throughout its lifespan. I remember javazons and orb-sorcs being good, and my hammerdin was pretty solid, back in the day, but that might have been patched

[Anonymous No.6188016]

>>6187973
Summon necro can walk through Hell with shit gear and clear it with minimum effort

[Anonymous No.6188060]

>>6187973
Hammerdings are still quite solid, but they can't hit magic immunes now no matter whether they are demons or undead. Can easily win as long as you take care of mana deficiency. You don't even need to do any runs and still clear Hell, even p8 if you are lucky enough.

[Anonymous No.6188061]

>>6188016
Huh, yeah. That could work. I definitely remember seeing people with huge skeleton armies. Would alleviate micro-murder-management.

A guide I just read recommended teeth as the left click. I remember back in the day trying to create a dentist character. Is bone spear a good skill? I just like the way it looks.

[Anonymous No.6188106]

>>6188061
Bone spear is the go to direct damage spell for necromancers now, but it's not really where you put your points.

You want to max skeletons and mastery, then max or almost max CE. With shit gear, points in amp damage help.

Skeletons will handle everything but bosses easy into nightmare. Eventually CE will always be your main skill. With amp damage, CE can blanket the screen in 100k+ damage in a few casts, mixed fire and physical. Nothing comes close to output. You can wipe screens on Act V Hell naked.

Bone spear is mostly to help your merc and clay golem knab a first kill in the Blood Moor on Hell.

Honestly, revives are worth more. If you revive Udars you can stun bosses.

The only thing a necro needs to clear Hell bosses is a teleport charges staff (vendors sell them in Hell) to stack revives and skeletons on bosses.

[Anonymous No.6188125]

>>6188106
Okay, thanks. What about the post above me regarding skeleton mages. I was thinking it would be smart to grab at least a few to have some ranged units in the pack. This post, >>6187253 , seems to suggest they're >>6188106 pretty solid, while this one, >>6187797 , seems to suggest otherwise

I totally understand the corpse explosion and relying on your merc, golem, and army to make more corpses for more explosions.

[Anonymous No.6188305]

If you were to hack together a build, what would you want to play? The focus is exclusively on gameplay, numbers don't matter. Can pull skills from all of the classes.

[Anonymous No.6188340]

I never played a zon, lads. is this good or worth holding on to?

[Anonymous No.6188348]

>>6188340
seems solid enough

[Anonymous No.6188351]

Does having a rhyme and alibabas on switch really give bonus MF right as the boss is about to die?

[Anonymous No.6188365]

wow this is a first for me. what do I even do with it? im not ready. help.

[Anonymous No.6188372]

>>6187253
that's pretty cool.
>dat poison dmg
yeah but remember it doesn't stack like you think it would. it means only 1 poison skel is useful, any more is a waste as it doesn't stack on a target, it either gets re-applied or it just adds onto the duration.

>>6187797
yeah.... honestly with those numbers I'd rather invest the 20 points into something more useful, like lvls into clay golem or curses or bone prison.

[Anonymous No.6188375]

Do monsters grant more exp in nightmare and hell mode in diablo? I know they do in diablo ii.

[Anonymous No.6188376]

>>6188365
hold on to it, go to bed now, and wait a month before using it

[Anonymous No.6188415]

>>6188375
Yeah, you can easily try killing a nightmare monster at level 1 and see how many levels you get.

[Anonymous No.6188432]

Sometimes when I open and then close my horadric cube while in the stash, it also closes the stash. Sometimes the stash stays open. It's really fucking annoying. What does decide whether closing the cube while in stash also closes the stash?
>>6188340
It's a (much) worse shako. Not worthy of keeping around.
>>6188365
You get another one and make an Infinity or find a Jah and make an Enigma.

[Anonymous No.6188514]

>>6188351
I've always been under the impression that it does, but perhaps I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.6188525]

>>6188365
>playing sorc
Infinity
>any other class
Enigma

[Anonymous No.6188529]

what's everyone working on lads? i'm too dumb to mod, too asocial for bnet, and not autistic enough to grail, so i like to p8 normal and nm with high mf and then switch into meme builds
>melee sorc (terrible and will probably die)
>fire/poison zon (not actually half bad)
>about to potentially start dragon claw assassin

[Anonymous No.6188590]

>>6188340
It's literally trash. Vendor it.

[Anonymous No.6188618]

>>6188432
>It's a (much) worse shako. Not worthy of keeping around.
thanks, i’m retarded and didn’t even think to compare it to a common unique like shako. ill keep that standard in mind when I find these things

[Anonymous No.6188659]

D2 came out in 2000 so it's not retro

[Anonymous No.6188702]

>>6188618
When it comes to rares, you always want mods that help you reach breakpoints. Stuff like fcr, fhr, aspd, you get the idea. Mostly the fcr. Then you want +2 class skills or +3 class skill tree, depending on what skills you use. Then come maximum number of open sockets. Obviously you are always looking for the highest roll possible. If a rare doesn't have all of these, it's guaranteed trash because you can probably get a unique that gives you these mods and then some. But if you get all that and some nice additional mod or two like +allres, +str, +life or whatever with a high roll, you have a good rare. So, if that coronet had +30% frw, +2 open sockets, a higher roll on +life and +res instead of the mana, it would be kinda okay. As it is now, it's shit.

[Anonymous No.6188970]

>>6188529
Beefing up the Fire Golem so that he is more than just an aggression gathering meatbag.

>uncapped Holy Fire (for some reason it used to cap out at level 30)
>gains +1% fire skill damage per level
>a chance to cause an explosion that deals 100% of his fire damage in a small radius
>Golem Mastery now gives the Fire Golem base levels in Resist Fire and Salvation (which the golem will not cast, but does apply as a synergy bonus to his Holy Fire)

[Anonymous No.6189073]

>>6184045
She is the second pick for me. More versatility than the warrior with stat distribution and much better than him with ranged attacks. I just like the gritty low fantasy feel for the characters you play as.

[Anonymous No.6189258]

>>6188970
What are the pros and cons of using Fire Golem instead of Clay Golem?

[Anonymous No.6189609]

>>6189258
>vanilla
Clay Golem is incredibly tanky and slows enemies.
Fire Golem is immune to fire, can kill things (although very poorly) and attracts everything within 23 yards to it and is the only skill in the game that costs so much mana that most builds won't be able to cast it at high levels. Fire DPS with excellent gear (Beast, Infinity, +26 summoning) is going to be around ((786+860)/2+22)*1.6*25/28=1207 DPS which is really bad, especially since it is effectively single target (the Holy Fire damage is only 44 every 2 seconds).
>my mod
Clay Golem is incredibly tanky and slows enemies.
Fire Golem has -100% fire resistance but still gets 50%+ fire absorb, still attracts everything and costs tons of mana, but with the same gear as vanilla and maxed out golem mastery would deal DPS of (1.5*(3097+3236)/2+400)*1.6*25/14=14713 DPS.

[Anonymous No.6190118]

I wish there was a way track played time in D2 so I can see how many million hours I've went without dropping a griffons.

[Anonymous No.6190224]

Please be good.

[Anonymous No.6190238]

>>6190224
NOOO it's not perfect fuck this game could be worse, at least it rolled high at the -lres side

[Anonymous No.6190305]

[Anonymous No.6190323]

>>6188125
Normally just put one point in mages, but at high levels you have points to spare and could buff them. Revives are heartier though.

Mages help your kill speed at lower levels though.

Also get blind for gloams and terror to crowd control extra fast enemies. Decrepify is a must for bosses.

Iron maiden is the best way to get early kills on Hell if you have shit gear and need corpses.

If you're playing with a caster, lower resists isn't that much worse than amp damage since CE is 50% fire.

If you have good gear you can also skip hard points in revives and mages and pump posion nova instead to increase full screen damage output.

[Anonymous No.6190378]

Y'all think it is worth adding a socket to a Homunculus and putting an Ist in it for MF on the necro?

[Anonymous No.6190635]

I've recently re-installed and put in my installation D2SE and plugy to try solo farming and hoarding.

Atm I can either open the game normally on 1.14d and play Bnet or through D2SE and play 1.13c with plugy

Is this ok or can it fuck my saves down the road? Are there any other mods for doing the exact same thing?

I'm also not using glider this time and the game looks better and less blurry (window mode as always)

[Anonymous No.6190667]

>>6190323
Yeah, I was thinking of relying on summons while having high mf until I get some better gear and then diversifying. I've watched some vids and the case for at least a point in every curse is fairly strong.

I can always use mages in the beginning and then respec later. That's a feature new to me. I saw you can earn it from these new orbs. Are those hard to get?

[Anonymous No.6190668]

>>6190323
Yeah, I was thinking of relying on summons while having high mf until I get some better gear and then diversifying. I've watched some vids and the case for at least a point in every curse is fairly strong.

I can always use mages in the beginning and then respec later. That's a feature new to me. I saw you can earn it from these new orbs. Are those hard to get?

[Anonymous No.6190670]

What build do you have the most fun with?

[Anonymous No.6190675]

>>6189073
I really like the fact that every character can learn all of the spells, but they absolutely have different strengths. Such a blessing to have heal, teleport, phasing, and telekinesis on all characters. Plus, the elemental spells can break up the monotony of left clicking everything

[Anonymous No.6190731]

>>6190378
That is a retarded idea.

[Anonymous No.6190769]

>>6190378
Seems like a major commitment. The rune, the homunculus, and the socket

[Anonymous No.6190858]

>>6189258
Pros
>immune to fire
>holy fire 1-shots low HP trash mobs around you
>does fire dmg, which is great vs physical immunes like ghosts
>technically does more dmg than clay
>attracts everything to him cuz of the aura

Cons
>less HP than clay
>doesn't have clay's +slow%
>misses more than clay
>nearly everything in Hell is Fire immune, especially in Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone Keep where you'll likely spend 90% of your time as a high lvl

overally I prefer clay because he makes Bosses and Superuniques piss easy, which are your only threat. If you're worried about huge swathes of trash mobs as a necro then you dont have enough skeletons.

[Anonymous No.6190892]

>>6190224
>>6190238
I'm so mad. When's my turn? I've been playing for so damn long.

[Anonymous No.6191652]

Does Oak Sage from HOTO buff necro summons?

[Anonymous No.6191669]

How many of you play this because your PC just isn't powerful enough for newer games? Not knocking Diablo II, i'm just curious.

t. owner of a Thinkpad T420

[Anonymous No.6191675]

>>6191669
Not me. I built my current computer in early 2017 (i5 3.40ghz, rx 480, 16gb ram) and I have had no problem playing the new releases that I want to play (mainly REmake 2, RE7, nuHitman, Naruto Ninja Storm 4, etc). At the end of the day, I'm on the spectrum and addicted to D2.

[Anonymous No.6191680]

>>6191675
Oh dog i wish i was able to enjoy games like you lads are. I haven't enjoyed games in years.

[Anonymous No.6191689]

Nice Griffon's! I found mine in the Pits, rolled 15/15. Now i just need a 5/5 light facet for it.

[Anonymous No.6191720]

>>6191652
Of course. Stats almost always work universally on Diablo 2 whether player or monster (e.g. using battle commands on a Grizzly Bear increases its bearsmite level, thereby secretly increasing its damage output), with the main exceptions being Energy and Vitality which only work on players. Also note that some sites incorrectly say that the secret +life% that necroskeletons gain per level is additive with Oak Sage, but it isn't, it multiplies directly (so if you have skeletons with 9840 life, oak sage will bump that up to 14268).

[Anonymous No.6192720]

>>6190769
True, probably not worth it.

[Anonymous No.6192735]

In D1, How do I appropriately deal with a sorority of fire-immune succubi or a murder of everything resistant mages? Their projectiles drain my mana shield rapidly when I try to pick them off with my bow.

[Anonymous No.6192825]

>>6192735
Also, if I want an emerald ring of the zodiac (or some other top tier item), can I get that in normal mode in hell or do I need to push to advanced difficulties? How does that work exactly. I know there is dungeon level, monster level, and character level, but how do all of those come together to provide a range of potential drops?

[Anonymous No.6192937]

>>6192735

Stone curse and the Civerb's Cudgel for % to demons damage.

That's for triple immunes. For fire immunes just use chain lightening. I think either blood star and/or bone spirit will do physical damage too.

Best gear can drop in normal, but I think high end suffixs are more common in harder difficulties.

Godly Helm of the Whale can only spawn from Wirt at high character levels and the Helm of Blood mostly drops in Nightmare levels 1-2.

[Anonymous No.6192974]

>>6192937
Nightmare and Hell mode are a lot harder now that I no longer have my arch angel's staff of the apocalypse with 255 charges. So, I never used stone curse or a lot of the other spells. I'll give it a shot, but it seems like it's best for unique monsters. But, I'll run hell on normal a few times and experiment. Seems like blood star and bone spirit do magic damage. Golem seems like an option as well... and it might include another target so I don't get spammed with projectiles... Guardian too... hm.

I'm currently playing as a rogue, but I will absolutely consider the civerb. I had notions about getting a melee switch and have been focusing heavily on swords, but I'm open to other options. If rogues get their dex added to melee damage, this cudgel could be great. I could easily tele in and drop them all in a single hit each. My windforce takes a few shots to drop one, while all seven of them blast this sitting duck.

It seems like all-res monsters reduce damage by 75%. Seems like fireball might still be a decent option in that case, unless if chain lightning will have multiple arcs hit the same target if they're clustered. Even then, fireball might be better due to the sheer numbers, guaranteed aoe, and guaranteed two hits on target. Too bad there is no aoe that does physical damage in vanilla.

I tried using lightning, but the damage seemed pitiful, especially compared to fireball. It does like, 28 damage in my spellbook. In game, I just thought it would be easier to just shoot them, but now I'm reconsidering. If an enemy can be hit twice or more in a single arc, it might be worth it. If arcs can overlap, then, yeah.

[Anonymous No.6193123]

>>6192974
or if % damage to demons effects ALL damage including spells, a deadly hunter would work well, if not a civerb.

[Anonymous No.6193240]

Let's gooooo! Finally a new grail item.

[Anonymous No.6193245]

>>6193240
Nice roll too.

[Anonymous No.6193303]

Umm, hello??????

[Anonymous No.6193820]

what's a good meme build to play with my brother over bnet?

[Anonymous No.6193845]

>>6193820
What is your brother going to play as?

[Anonymous No.6193903]

>>6193820
Paladins and Barbarians, due to their auras and warcries (respectively) are great team players.

Conviction Paladin + Sorceress is great, I've done that with my bro a coupla times.

It's best to have one melee character paired with one caster character. Means that if you find good melee weapons, or good faster cast rate gear, that you don't have to fight over it.

[Anonymous No.6193917]

>>6193820
>>6193903
Also, I don't know if Battle.net lets you do this (I bet it doesn't), but monsters only start to drop more items when you reach 3 players in a game.

If possible, it's best to have a 2-player party play on "players 3". I never played D2 over BNet, just a LAN.

Not having to put up with lag from BNet servers offers good enough reason to just connect directly over IP, imo.

[Anonymous No.6194041]

why are there so many korean girls streaming diablo 2 on twitch?

[Anonymous No.6194139]

>>6194041
Why do you use twitch

[Anonymous No.6194147]

>>6194139
its fun. any better platform to suggest?

[Anonymous No.6194157]

How long do you guys think D2 will be played? I've heard there will come a time where more people are yet playing D2 than D3.

[Anonymous No.6194631]

>>6194157
Probably another decade at least. Diablo 2 has pretty much established itself as the Doom of Diablolikes with its extensive modding and still popular base game. It also still has a very steady multiplayer following, which is helped a lot since anyone can host their own server with their own mods to keep things fresh.

[Anonymous No.6194659]

>>6193245
Why are rare af uniques such shit?

[Anonymous No.6194767]

>case 1: maximum damage is at least 2 higher than minimum damage
>+1 minimum damage = +0.5 average damage
>+1 maximum damage = +0.5 average damage
>case 2: minimum damage is 1 less than maximum damage
>+1 minimum damage = +1 average damage
>+1 maximum damage = +0.5 average damage
>case 3: minimum damage is 1 less than maximum damage
>+1 minimum damage = +0.5 average damage (minimum and maximum swap)
>+1 maximum damage = +0.5 average damage
This game is destroying my mind with its insane logic. I spent 30 minutes trying to justify in my head why cases 1 and 3 must be true and why case 2 can't be true. But it turns out case 1 is always true, case 2 is only true for melee and case 3 is only true for ranged attacks. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.6194816]

>>6194659
Griffon's, death's web and death's fathom are 3 great ones that I can't wait to drop. I wonder how rare steelrends are compared to those, as well as the windforce and grandfather. What's shit is wasting my luck on uniques I don't need and wont use ever.

[Anonymous No.6194852]

>>6194816
Imagine finally dropping that Death's Web only to find out it's 1/40. Same with Fathom. I already see this happening to me.

[Anonymous No.6194984]

>>6194852
I just want the dopamine reaction of seeing the fucking item drop. Literally never seen a unique diadem. When my first Jah dropped I was mad hyped. Imagine getting a tyrael's. Hily shit.

[Anonymous No.6195171]

>>6193845
I think bro is gonna play fire drood into windy in hell

>>6193903
thanks, but I was gonna avoid sorc and pally
since they're no-brainers. Maybe barb, then

[Anonymous No.6195195]

>>6195171
Play poison javazon, pussy.

[Anonymous No.6195228]

>>6192974

Well yeah, archangels of apoc is a super OP hacked weapon.

The most charges you can get on a real staff of apoc is 15. I don't even know if Arch-Angles will spawn with apoc.

I never saw one drop, have only seen them at Adriana's. I found once I leveled my spells up enough though that Dreamflange + an emerald shield was better. The extra shield resists let you use a wyrms ammy for more mana.

Hellfire you can just spam phasing, immolation, nova, and apocolypse across each level.

[Anonymous No.6195231]

Do people still play D2 around ladder resets? When is the next one?

I want to go classic zealot. Probably quit after Nightmare since melee is trash without doing tons of MF runs. I might go frenzy barb instead though, they are fun and Fury isn't too hard a runewords to get.

I remember in 1.09 I had dual Honor swords and it was fucking killer. Honor sucks past nightmare now though.

[Anonymous No.6195270]

>>6195228
Arch-Angel does spawn with Apoc in SP at Adria's. No idea about MP. Maybe it spawns there too.

[Anonymous No.6195441]

Just stumbled on a Diablo 2 LP on YT, which lead to a melee sorceress build vid popping up in my recommended. Incongruous builds like that really amuse me, and I think I'd like to try a playthrough with one. But I noticed every build video I looked at was sword-and-board. Is there any hope of making a Hell-viable two-handed sword-using melee Sorceress?

[Anonymous No.6195449]

>>6195228
I miss it so much. I'm getting torn up in nightmare mode hell floors. Have a windforcre, demonspike, and veil of steel, with max resistances and stats, and got taken down by a bunch of vipers and lightning demons that came out in force around the corner. Haven't found myself a teleport book yet, but I think I'll try running 5-9 tomorrow (in addition to 1-4 trying to get civerb's cudgel)

[Anonymous No.6195484]

>>6195441
>Dies in ur path

[Anonymous No.6195508]

>>6195441
>muh sockets, muh runewords, muh enchantments

[Anonymous No.6195524]

>tfw finally goth my botd base

Now I just need to get a Zod rune. heh ;_;

[Anonymous No.6195526]

>>6195524
Do yourself a favor and make it in an eth collosus blade or berserker axe.

[Anonymous No.6195531]

>>6195526
Hey anon, bring your little ear over, I'll tell you a big secret. But don't tell anyone! I modded my D2 to make WW work like it did before the reword. Weapon speed doesn't matter anymore.

[Anonymous No.6195538]

>>6195484
>>6195508
Sorry, I haven't played D2 in about ten years. Are you two always faggots, or is melee Sorc some kind of asshurt-inducing taboo?

[Anonymous No.6195585]

>>6195538
>can't handle the banter
>wants to play a 2h melee sorc and get approval from le 4chan anon epic frens ;DDD
Fucking redditors I swear
Do whatever you want, it's your own free time anon. If it works, come back, post about it, we'll make fun of you like we make fun of everyone else who posts here.

[Anonymous No.6195589]

>>6195538
Well, having been called a faggot, I certainly don't feel like helping you to understand my post

[Anonymous No.6195594]

>>6195585
>approval
Don't project, bitch. All I want is to know that it won't be a monumental waste of time because 2h is still substantially weaker than snb.

>>6195589
Oh no, if I'd just been nicer surely the greentexting faggot would have actually come around and been helpful afterall!

[Anonymous No.6195598]

>>6195594
It's likely to be a huge waste of time, like your posting here, but also not hard to recover from; you'll pick up a sword and board while you're grinding for your ineffective shit 2h weapon.

[Anonymous No.6195602]

>>6195594
Yeah, it would've worked.

[Anonymous No.6195603]

>>6195585
>approval from le 4chan anon epic frens ;DDD

I unironically do this every single day.

[Anonymous No.6195610]

>>6195598
>>6195602
Well, that's too bad. I detest snb. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.6195629]

>>6195610
I mean, it wouldn't solo Ubers but it would probably be fun to play anyways. Do what you like

[Anonymous No.6195804]

can a ww barb uber? i have a bunch of keys and a pretty solid barb, and I don’t feel like making a smiter. if not a barb then what build other than a smiter? kicksin? ss druid?

[Anonymous No.6195821]

>tfw rerolled my godlike AT map

[Anonymous No.6195886]

>>6195804
Frenzy barb shreds ubers but you still need some equip, like grief for damage and plenty of crushing blow. I have not tried WW but I expect it's too weak.

[Anonymous No.6195897]

>>6195804
Of course. People have done the ubers with whirlwind using full IK even.

[Anonymous No.6195927]

>>6195441
>Diablo 2
>Sword And Board
wut

Had to look up sword and board, looks like a Diablo 3 thing. The name gave off a vibe like "town and gown" for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6195936]

>>6195927
means 1h sword + shield?

[Anonymous No.6196148]

>>6195629
Any suggestions for gear/skill progression, or where to go to plan it out? Arreat Summit still around?

[Anonymous No.6196154]

>>6195228
I found an Archangels Staff of Nova I just love.

Emerald shield of the mind? What are we talkin here?

[Anonymous No.6196181]

Silly question about charsi's imbue:

Just found a white scepter of +2 blessed hammer

If I imbue it through charsi, will it lose the +2 blessed hammer?

[Anonymous No.6196185]

>>6196181
and, if so, is there any way I can improve the weapon without losing my hammies?

[Anonymous No.6196349]

>>6196181
You can always back up your saves, experiment, then go back to your backup copy of the save if it goes bad.
That said, I don't think having charsi imbue the item will let you keep the +2 blessed hammer :(

>>6196185
Larzuk in Act V can add sockets, and for a white item you'll get the maximum number of sockets an item of that level can have. If it's a scepter from act I normal then it can have up to two sockets. You can then put in a rune word. I'm maybe 90% sure that will let you keep the +2 blessed hammer.

I don't know if there's a rune word worth putting in a 2 socket scepter that enhances blessed hammer, though.

[Anonymous No.6196405]

>>6196349
Thanks
It's a Bnet character anyways, so no backing up saves.

And it's ruined. Went to respec into hammers and accidentally shift-clicked every stat point into strength.

Now I'm restarting, level 9 already. Only hurts a little, I had just done maggot lair.

[Anonymous No.6196474]

After playing Diablo 3 with my wife, I took her back to Diablo 1. She was fucking pissed off and bitching half the time we played. But when we beat the game, she had acted like she had accomplished something. I had no idea how unforgiving the first Diablo was. It never seemed that hard when I was younger. Playing it now, compared to everything since then, it kinda kicked my ass.

[Anonymous No.6196501]

>>6196474
She felt that way because it's an actual challenging journey. D3 hands you the game, D1 holds it above your head and makes you jump and reach for it, taunting you the whole time while it blinds you with an ancient UI and no understanding of "QoL"

[Anonymous No.6196680]

>>6196405
what realm you play on guy? i thought i was only one here who played on bnet

[Anonymous No.6196694]

>>6196680
US East

[Anonymous No.6196907]

I had fun playing my new hammerdin
I can't wait to spec out of hammers, eventually. Feels like frozen orb sorc, I just shit out a bunch of stuff and start looting while everything dies.

[Anonymous No.6197360]

>frozen orb

Finna try it again today. Why don't people use it over blizzard again?

[Anonymous No.6197401]

>>6197360
Blizzard has better DPS, I believe.

[Anonymous No.6197414]

>>6197401
Depends. Single target with proper aim, FO might be better or at least comparable to blizz. With FO you also get full power fireball, which has drastically higher DPS than ice blast or glacial spike.

[Anonymous No.6197423]

>>6197414
And I might add that with conviction aura and some -fire res from facets, fireball might also have better DPS than blizz. I have never done the calculation but if my fireball does 10-11k damage according to the character screen, it's very much possible.

[Anonymous No.6197454]

Managed to find my first enchanted shrine today. Actually found two on the same floor. Spell levels!

[Anonymous No.6197749]

>>6197454
gz

[Anonymous No.6197871]

Tonight is the night I get griffons???

[Anonymous No.6197906]

>>6197871
Do it to it! Get that shit!

[Anonymous No.6197913]

>>6194659
Someone only plays casters like a little bitch. These gloves are godly for ww barb. How are enhanced damage, crushing blow, and + strength mods bad?

[Anonymous No.6197943]

>try path of diablo
>servers are always resetting every 10 mins
>only changes are at end game
>add new item that ruins your items

>try Median XL
>replace good skills with shit skills
>shields have literally 3% block chance

Why are these popular? they are shit.

[Anonymous No.6197950]

>>6182025
Rogue, even though it was gimped with health/mana advancement and some other things, it offers most flexibility and build leeway. Wizard is also fun, but only if you're angling for magic shenanigans. Warrior is the least favourite, zero skill needed, zero options, extremely boring, pointless to run through more than once.

[Anonymous No.6197961]

>>6197913
Why would I use anything other than loh on a ww barb???

[Anonymous No.6197979]

What is your favorite shrine, guys?

[Anonymous No.6197982]

>>6197979
In Diablo 2? Experience is the one I'm happy to see most, but all in all D2 shrines are garbage compared to D1.

[Anonymous No.6198000]

>>6197979
Shrines are kinda useless beyond act 2 normal.
Stamina is fun in act 1 normal.

[Anonymous No.6198003]

>>6197982
>>6198000
I think he meant shrine model.

[Anonymous No.6198078]

any mod that gives assassin a ponytail like amazon?

[Anonymous No.6198090]

>>6197979
appearence-wise, i quite like the ones found in river of flame/chaos sanctuary
in terms of use, gem shrines

[Anonymous No.6198094]

>>6198078
Pretty sure I've seen one that swapped hers and 'zon's heads, as well as one that gave her loose shoulder-long hair, but they all are lost to the time now, just like nude mods for amazon and sorc. ModCD era, don't think you're going to find one now.

[Anonymous No.6198095]

>>6197913
>only as much crushing blow as blood gloves
>extremely high strength requirements
>no resistances or life
I wouldn't call them godly. The only case I'd ever use them instead of decently crafted Blood gloves, Ghoulhide or Laying of Hands is if I somehow found a Steelrend and Enigma first which is mathematically unlikely.

>>6197943
>>shields have literally 3% block chance
That is pretty much a requirement for a mod that drastically increases dexterity requirements and dexterity on items, otherwise everyone would be sitting at 75% block chance without even trying.

[Anonymous No.6198105]

>>6197979
I like skill shrine because it always makes me resummon all my skellies and golems and revives. Fuck my autism.

[Anonymous No.6198239]

LET'S GOOOOO!!!!

[Anonymous No.6198292]

>>6198239
2h melee sorceress?

[Anonymous No.6198420]

>>6196474
Diablo I was definitely by far and away the hardest, but you can also beat it regardless of drops, and the higher difficulties aren't gated by doing runs for gear.

As long as your smart about using doorways and constricted areas or kiting and keeping range, you can overcome most mobs.

Granted, death knights might kill your level 35 warrior in 3 hits on Hell, but if you're smart about pulling them you can make it out.

[Anonymous No.6198437]

>>6198292
No, I'm not autistic.

[Anonymous No.6198438]

>>6198420
>the higher difficulties aren't gated by doing runs for gear

This is true for 2 and 3 as well.

[Anonymous No.6198496]

>>6198438
It's 100% true for D2 with melee characters.

I ran a barbarian up to level 84, and had a decent gear, including the exceptional unique maul, and got to enjoy watching WW take out about 5% of a zombie's HP per hit.

[Anonymous No.6198561]

>>6198496
>124 strength
>at worst, 183 weapon damage
>-10 weapon attack speed = 3.12 attacks per second
>enhanced damage of (1+1.1*1.24+1.53+1.1+2)=6.994 or 699%
>critical strike chance of 31%
>(3.12*183*6.99)*(0.69)+(3.12*183*6.99+2)*(0.31*2)=5229 DPS
Your problem was attack rating, your damage was excellent even if you only consider your skill levels, weapon and mercenary aura. I strongly recommend you use Enchant and Battle Cry the next time you play a Barbarian, it'll bring you very, very close to your not-counting-miss-chance DPS.

[Anonymous No.6198625]

>>6198496
And since I didn't really address the central question of needing to grind, then consider that pretty much any high Ferocious/low Cruel weapon on a late-exceptional or elite base weapon is going to be about as strong, or even stronger, than your unique weapon and that you are pretty likely to find at least one decent high Ferocious/low Cruel weapon (if you are identifying all of the decent base magic/rares, which you should be). And if you were collecting chipped gems, then you get a few extra shots at cubing a high Ferocious/low Cruel weapon, potentially even with 2 sockets. And on top of that, you'll get a few shots at crafting a decent weapon with all the other gems you'll find. In short, 5000+ DPS is fine for Hell (most enemies have under 10000 life) and it is unlikely that you will not find or create a decent (meaning 175%+ enhanced damage on a decent base) weapon before, or during early Hell. At absolute worst, you'll have to spend an hour or two rerolling vendors if you somehow do not find a good weapon by then.

[Anonymous No.6198640]

>>6198625
Good luck hitting anything with that lol.

Did the retards at Blizz ever play test 1.10 and realize that naked casters out damage melee with a 100% hit rate easily?

[Anonymous No.6198723]

>>6198640
>Uber Mephisto (the highest level monster): level 110
>Uber Mephisto (the highest defense monster): 3360 defense
>Barbarian: Level 84
>Barbarian Base Attack Rating: 85
>chance to hit against Uber Mephisto: 200% * {85 / (85 + 3360)} * {84 / (84 + 110)} = 2% chance (boosted up to 5%)
>chance to hit against Uber Mephisto (with level 26 Battle Cry): 200% * {85 / (85 + 0)} * {84 / (84 + 110)} = 86% chance
>chance to hit against a level 99 monster (with level 26 Battle Cry): 91%
Use Battle Cry. It is your "get out of having no attack rating for free" card. Although to be fair, every character except the barbarian is kind of fucked when it comes to hit chance, although at least other characters tend to have better "melee" skills like Charged Strike where you can miss and still releases bolts anyways.

But yes, you are absolutely right that melee sucks dicks in comparison to spellcasting except for the absolute top end game content. This was also even truer pre-1.10f, where pretty much all of the sorceress skills did 50-80% of the damage they do now but against enemies that have 10% of the life. It was hilariously dumb and makes 1.10f+ melee seem relatively well off. And it only gets worse when you consider that pre-1.10f had super multiple shot lightning enchanteds that shoot locking on stacked bolts that one hit anyone without tons of lightning absorb or MDR. It was god awful.

[Anonymous No.6198724]

>>6198095
You do realize that every point of strength is 1% enhanced damage right? Do not waste points on vitality if you are a barb. Pump up that strength for high damage. If you need more that 2.5k life to reliably survive in hell then you aren't playing correctly.

Laying of hands are nice, but it's also nice to have enhanced damage without any conditions. That combined with the crushing blow make these my preferred for ww. Also, I assume you know this, but the attack speed on loh do nothing for whirlwind.

[Anonymous No.6198765]

>>6194767
What? Case 2 is wrong, here is why

(min+max+1)/2 = avg + 0.5

Simple math, it does not matter what the values of the min and max are.

[Anonymous No.6198863]

>>6198765
You'd think that, but you are wrong. For melee, for some godforsaken reason, if your minimum exceeds the maximum, instead of swapping minimum and maximum, it rather just pushes up the maximum by 1 so that minimum is always less than maximum. So if you are dealing 100-101 damage and gain +1 minimum damage, you are now dealing 101-102 damage. You gain +1 effective minimum AND maximum damage from +1 minimum damage. It takes a while to wrap your mind around because it is so retarded and it isn't even internally consistent since ranged attacks do not follow the same rules.

This is actually the cornerstone of dueling, especially at low levels when that extra damage really makes a difference. This also is part of the reason that Grief is so absurdly overpowered, since it not only gives a ton of damage, but gives equal minimum and maximum damage, allowing you to easily stack on minimum damage jewels and thereby exceed your maximum with your minimum and enjoy "doubled" minimum damage (this is also probably part of the reason why Grief is almost always banned in duels).

[Anonymous No.6198925]

Where is the best place to get ANY non-paladin 4 socket shield? Spirit runes are cheap and I will take anything at this point while waiting for a Monarch. It's like they just do not exist.

[Anonymous No.6198964]

>>6198925
For normal monsters, cows have the highest chances of dropping Monarchs, Troll Nests and Aegisi by quite a huge amount, so probably go kill some cows.

[Anonymous No.6198989]

>>6198925
The only non-paladin shield that can get 4 sockets is a monarch, which is why all spirits are made in monarchs.

[Anonymous No.6199000]

>>6198989
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6199080]

>>6198723
try path of diablo and use a melee splash jewel

[Anonymous No.6199124]

>>6199000
Wow, I really thought it was just monarchs. Never thought the Aegis and Ward could do it too.

[Anonymous No.6199132]

>>6198925
I've heard that running AT, Cows, Pits and whatnot with all your MF gear off is the best way to find one (on Hell of course).

[Anonymous No.6199354]

Does anyone know where a good Diablo II download is? I never played it and I want to get it before Blizz ruins it like they ruined WC3.

[Anonymous No.6199416]

>>6198496
It's 100% true that you're severely autistic and don't play D2. If you were right, speedrunning wouldnt exist.

[Anonymous No.6199970]

>>6199354
Google plugy and you can probably find an install for 1.13c

[Anonymous No.6200140]

So it wasn't last night, but tonight that I get griffon's? Ok!

[Anonymous No.6200207]

>>6200140
Get it, girl!

[Anonymous No.6200250]

>some twitch streamer has 9 items left on his grail in 34 days

Literally how? I understand he plays 15 hours a day, and is efficient at running AT but still.

[Anonymous No.6200261]

I want to try out 'Deadly Hunter' in D1, but the drop rate is apparently 1/1200 full runs or so. Any character save repository or save editor available to let me test this bow out?

[Anonymous No.6200263]

lads i mf pit, countess, andy, trav, mephisto, diablo, baal and nihlathek

what juicy spots am I not doing? i know i heard LK is good but do I just open the chests there and leave? is it worth clearing?

[Anonymous No.6200282]

>>6200263
The best places to find uniques are pindle, ancient tunnels and the pits. Baal runs are good for exp. Chaos is a decent spot overall. Trav is good for facets, high runes up to Jah, and rings/amulets, but you'd be wasting your time if you don't have a specialized build. You should watch dbrunski's youtube guide on LK running, it's the best spot for high rune farming by far.

Countess, andy and meph are beginner spots, and nihlathak is pointless to farm for me personally, unless you want keys.

[Anonymous No.6200483]

why didn’t you guys tell me about GLIDE-Wrapper? The game looks a million times better now.

[Anonymous No.6200485]

>>6200483
never mind it’s in the OP and I’m retarded. bye

[Anonymous No.6200662]

>>6200263
For the highest treasure class uniques with some exceptions you should run Pindle and Thresh Socket. Theoretically it should be much more effective than running Bhaal. Just spawn a good Arreat Plateau map. For general magic finding, any lvl 85 area is good. Depends on your character, skills and monster immunities. Hell cows are fine, too, IIRC unique cows also drop from the highest treasure class. LK runs are probably fastest to find runes up to Ber but it's extremely boring. And yes, basically you are suppposed to just open the chests as fast as possible and ignore everything else, including monsters.

[Anonymous No.6200729]

>>6198094
with the community being so active for almost over 20 years its a shame theres not a mod for everything that you can download off of nexus or something

[Anonymous No.6201032]

Bnet lag is fucking SHIT right now
killed me 3 times in the last 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.6201048]

>>6200483
>>6200485
It's been a while but last time I played I was using an Athlon XP 3000+ and a Voodoo 5500 for native Glide support alongside a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS for full 3D audio. Extreme overkill hardware taking up space in my apartment? Yes. Complete change in immersion? Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.6201115]

Anyone ever use the devilution port on android?
I see there's a link to DGEngine in the OP, but is there a reason to use one over another atm?

Just looking to play during downtime at work.

[Anonymous No.6201272]

Reply to this post or youll get min rolls on all your uniques this month

[Anonymous No.6201715]

>everything is essentially vanilla
>except chipped gems have +character skills on them
I can already tell this is going to be a very well balanced mod.

[Anonymous No.6201848]

>>6201715
:thinking:
yeah, that's probably perfectly balanced. why wouldn't it be, ya know?

[Anonymous No.6201893]

>>6182307
What's more impressive that game had only content upgrade literally almost 2 decades ago, yet it does not feel stale because of all the randomization.

[Anonymous No.6202543]

>>6201272
Ok. Griffon's tonight!

[Anonymous No.6202750]

Let's goooooo! Pitzerker time???

[Anonymous No.6202757]

>>6202750
B-but on barbie you are supposed to use the Arachnid mesh.

[Anonymous No.6202780]

>>6202757
Literally why???

[Anonymous No.6202826]

>>6202780
Mainly because he uses the same fcr table as sorc so those 20% he gets from arach gets him down to 11 frames, which is pretty fucking fast and helps with warcries a lot.

[Anonymous No.6202840]

>>6202826
Yeah but that's only if you have a cham in your shako.

[Anonymous No.6202852]

>>6202840
Or you can simply use a Rhyme shield?

[Anonymous No.6202863]

>>6202852
Or I can simply use a 6 isted pb.

[Anonymous No.6202872]

>>6202863
With rhyme, Isted shako, nigma, gheed's and inventory full of +7%mf small charms, you will have all the mf you would ever want. Maybe add in war travs if you really want. 6 ist pb is overkill. Waste of runes and weapon slot.

[Anonymous No.6202874]

>>6202872
You need charms for attack rating/max damage.

[Anonymous No.6202879]

>>6202874
What. Use battle cry and I expect you have a grief if you want to run pits with barb. You will never miss and kill everything in one shot, maybe two.

[Anonymous No.6202889]

>>6202879
Not true.

[Anonymous No.6202893]

>>6202889
Ok, maybe you've already tried it and therefore know better. Don't forget to run pits at players 7, you will get more items.

[Anonymous No.6202910]

>>6202893
Also not true.

[Anonymous No.6203376]

Why did you guys not tell me that I could get Mephisto stuck on corners? This is a gamechanger.

[Anonymous No.6203390]

To start playing I just need to download the V1.13d link, right? do i need a CD key? lost mine years ago.

[Anonymous No.6203413]

>>6203390
12121212121212121212121212

[Anonymous No.6203493]

>PoD servers are down

[Anonymous No.6203496]

>>6203493
>not playing plugy
I have 0.0001 sympathies for you

[Anonymous No.6203552]

>>6203496
That's not nothing!

[Anonymous No.6203795]

>>6203493
Good. PoD is trash.

[Anonymous No.6203990]

LET'S FUCKING

[Anonymous No.6203992]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.6204056]

>>6190305
Is this Beezlebub?

[Anonymous No.6204141]

>>6203992
Ya finally fuckin' did it, and here I am, still trying to get a fucking civerb in d1

[Anonymous No.6204481]

>>6201715
...what's this mod?

[Anonymous No.6204718]

I wish for an official Blizzard North new D2 expansion with another act, more runewords, more uniques, another class, and balance changes.

[Anonymous No.6204754]

>>6204481
Apocalypse 0.05. I wouldn't recommend it. It doesn't change much and that which it does change is just slight and boring. If you want a so silly that it becomes fun kind of mod, I'd recommend Hades Underworld, which was made by the same guy but with much more effort and a lot more dumb.

[Anonymous No.6204924]

>>6204754
>that random 20 poison damage over 4 seconds
lmao

[Anonymous No.6205017]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6205094]

was gonna make a collage of all my gear but got lazy. i just did ubers with a very cheap smiter. got a 15/20 ptorch on top of it which is nice. thats all.

[Anonymous No.6205117]

>>6205094
I'm finna make an exile for my smiter to go with his grief and fortitude and flex on you.

[Anonymous No.6205394]

will diablo 2 run on my thinkpad t480?

[Anonymous No.6205465]

>>6205394
if a t480 is better than a pentium 2 with 64mb ram and a 32mb tnt2 then yes

[Anonymous No.6205520]

>>6205117
I sort of intentionally wanted to uber with as cheap a smiter as I could. I had a LW and it’s insane how OP it is. It’s basically everything you need to uber in one item. Crushing blow, life tap and fade for resist. All other gear after that is overkill.

[Anonymous No.6205530]

>>6203376
>>6198925
Since figuring out that I could get Mephisto stuck on walls, I have been farming him on p3 with my lightning sorc quite a bit. Since yesterday my Lightning damage went from 11k to 16k and I've found a Gheeds GC, two facets, an Arachnids Mesh, Dracul's Grasp, another gold wrap and chance guards (both went to necro), a Skullder's Ire (nice upgrade for necro, since he was using a 4 socket chest with 4x ptopaz with nothing else), Azurewrath, Heaven's Light, and some other stuff that I can't remember. As it turns out, my current map has an armor rack right to the left of Mephisto's spawn that drops Monarch's like candy. I have four 4-socket Monarch's now as well. Rolled 34% FCR on the first one, other three are in the bank for later use.
Shako and HoZ still elude me. Farming Mephisto with my sorc used to be such a chore. I would dump full rejuvs into my merc to keep him alive to tank Meph but now I can do the runs quick and clean with non-ideal gear. It's nice.

[Anonymous No.6205557]

What an interesting hat.

[Anonymous No.6205603]

>one shot in act 3 with 1300hp

[Anonymous No.6205785]

>Unique scourge drops from Baal
>It's Horizon's tornado

[Anonymous No.6205834]

>>6205785
Don't worry, you'll be finding plenty more where that came from since Horizon's Tornado is 5/6th chance and Stormlash is 1/6th.

[Anonymous No.6205987]

>beat normal
>Farm cows for the last two runes to make Spirit
>Go to put sockets in a shield
>Only makes 3
>Google it


I'm a big retard.

[Anonymous No.6206145]

>>6205530
I'm genuinely concerned when I read posts like these.

[Anonymous No.6206375]

I just wanted to do one or two runs before making myself lunch.

[Anonymous No.6206443]

>>6206375
Nice earth shifter.

[Anonymous No.6206514]

LET'S GOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.6206536]

>>6206145
lol, you need not be. I'll get bored of the autism grinding soon and then stop playing for months.

[Anonymous No.6206563]

>>6206536
How can you get bored of inefficient noob grinding? Go watch some D2 guides on youtube.

[Anonymous No.6206575]

>open chest
>game crashes

That was 100% a ber rune.

[Anonymous No.6206583]

>>6206563
YouTube is for niggers and zoomers

[Anonymous No.6206609]

>>6206583
You're at least a zommer, confirmed by your lack of basic knowledge for a 20 year old game, so it's perfect for you then.

[Anonymous No.6206727]

>>6206609
Nah bro, no zoomer here. I've finished d2 on Hell back in the day with pally, sorc and necro but never got into the autism grind until I got plugy a year ago. What you consider basic knowledge may very well be basic knowledge, but I never needed it to finish Hell so lol

[Anonymous No.6206771]

Imagine being me right now.

[Anonymous No.6206883]

LET'S GOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.6206918]

Should I play Diablo 1?

[Anonymous No.6206920]

>>6206918
Nah, that's wasted time you can put towards grail progression instead.

[Anonymous No.6206970]

>>6206918
Yes, it isn't anywhere as focused on loot grinding compared to what the genre became.

[Anonymous No.6207018]

>>6206970
>loot grinding

But that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.6207219]

>>6206727
That guy is a retard, ignore him. His "basic knowledge" (if the eternal autism grind) is as you said unneccessary to finish Hell. That said, if you are going to grind some better gear, it doesn't hurt to check out some guides.

[Anonymous No.6207223]

>>6207219
You don't even play D2.

[Anonymous No.6207349]

>>6207223
Okay

[Anonymous No.6207382]

>>6207223
You mean anyone who doesn't spend every waking hour farming the same stuff over and over doesn't really play d2? Are you the "let's go" incel in this thread?

[Anonymous No.6207558]

^dont listen to him “let’s go”-kun. i appreciate your enthusiasm

[Anonymous No.6207757]

>>6206918
I enjoy it. It's pretty challenging, and there is significantly less options available for gear, so it's freeing in that way. All classes can learn all of the spells, dependent on magic level. I really like that, personally. A bit dated and missing some QoL like running, plus bugs that haven't been fixed in over twenty years.

[Anonymous No.6208208]

Can someone recommend a good Diablo 1 mod that improves the UI and gameplay without butchering the quests and the story?

[Anonymous No.6208516]

>>6207382
No, I mean that you're an annoying autistic retard that spews autistic opinions about a game he doesn't play.

[Anonymous No.6208575]

>>6208516
>doesn't play.
lol sure kid

[Anonymous No.6208597]

>>6207757
If i'm not mistaken then Hellfire has a running option (in town at least), but i have no idea how the rest of the content is in comparison to the main game.

[Anonymous No.6208642]

>>6208516
>doesn't play
Really curious as to what this means. Is it because I am not autistic enough to do a grail?

[Anonymous No.6208665]

>>6207382
Are you perhaps this mad because you don't have a griffons yet? It's ok though, just believe in yourself!

[Anonymous No.6208672]

>>6208665
Keep chasing those bits and bytes to make up for being a failure in the real world :)

[Anonymous No.6208673]

>>6208672
>projecting this hard

lmao

[Anonymous No.6208687]

>>6208673
You can do better than that

[Anonymous No.6208696]

>>6208687
Do better with what? This isn't a who is more autistic challenge. Projecting with a smiley face at the end is already embarrassing enough for you. Literally sweating.

[Anonymous No.6208710]

>people arguing in my diablo thread

[Anonymous No.6208714]

>>6208696
Sure kid. Keep trying.

[Anonymous No.6208718]

>>6208714
Not him and I've just been lurking up to this point, but please kill yourself in the most painful way possible. Thank you in advance.

[Anonymous No.6208721]

>>6208714
Keep trying to get a Ber for my CoH? Let's go boi.

[Anonymous No.6208735]

>>6208721
>boi
20-year-old zoomer confirmed.
>>6208718
If you kill yourself first I promise I will do it right after! Show me how you would do it :)

[Anonymous No.6208740]

>>6208735
lil dick no ber no griffon's headass boi

[Anonymous No.6208774]

>>6208740
Lol

[Anonymous No.6208904]

LET'S GOOOOO!

[Anonymous No.6209167]

>>6205603
you'll still get 1 shot even with 4k HP
Diablo 2's damage calculation is fucking retarded at the best of times.

[Anonymous No.6209281]

>>6209167
How are you possibly going to get one shot at 4k HP unless you are retarded enough to be sub-75 resistances and sub-15% damage reduction? I don't count it as a one shot either if you teleport into a pack of gloams or something equally melting, that is you purposely getting 5-shot for being a enigmatard and is well deserved. Pit vipers don't count either since it is preventable, if you decide to run Nihltathak without ample DR then you are setting yourself up to die on purpose.

[Anonymous No.6209446]

>>6207382
Would you also say that you """play"""" SC because you've finished single player campaigns?

[Anonymous No.6209937]

Alright game, give that fuckin civerb today

[Anonymous No.6210079]

>>6199124
theyre not practical bc str requirements, so literally no one in their right minds would use them

[Anonymous No.6210107]

literally only screenshots of my smiter still exist.

[Anonymous No.6210118]

and here's a bugged steelclash from long, long, long ago

[Anonymous No.6210123]

>>6210118
whoops

[Anonymous No.6210158]

>>6209937
fuck.

[Anonymous No.6210494]

>>6208208
>without butchering the quests and the story?
What did you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6210542]

>>6210494
Ha.
>>6208208
Quests and story is pretty barebones.

[Anonymous No.6210738]

>>6208208

The Hell 2 has the best update to the UI and QOL improvements. You get a Diablo 2 style store, a stash, gloves, belt, boots, three fast weapon swaps. The biggest improvement is that you now run while not in combat. It also has a cool perk system.

You can actually dual wield, which is cool. A lot more summons too.

The problem is that it's also too grindy. Playing a warrior you have to switch to swords for animals and maced for undead. Sorcerers are even worse. Every monster has some immunities so you have to constantly hotkey new spells.

I only really enjoyed playing barbarians or rouges since you don't have to swap weapons at all times.

The grind is actually not that bad on single player. I made it all the way through only dieing a few times. Multiplayer is fucking brutal though. It definitely needs fixes for difficulty.

[Anonymous No.6210858]

>>6210542
I tried playing Hellfire. There was that man-goat that I think it was in the original game and a mage that starts attacking you if you mess with his books. Also the game didn't generated the Butcher room , even though the npcs in the town were talking about him.

Then I tried playing another called Belzebub, which got no save option (have to restart everything if you quit) and generated an empty Butcher room without the guy.

>>6210738
Thanks a lot, that looks pretty cool. I don't really mind juggling between weapons and spells, Diablo 2 had a lot of that too. The idea is to just get part of my nostalgia back.

[Anonymous No.6210913]

Noob here.

How do I not run out of mana immediately in every fight? I'm playing offline singleplayer

[Anonymous No.6210914]

>>6210858
>and generated an empty Butcher room without the guy
Cast a Town Portal here either through a spell or a scroll.
>no save option (have to restart everything if you quit)
That's what waypoints and shortcuts are for, anon.
>Also the game[Hellfire] didn't generated the Butcher room , even though the npcs in the town were talking about him.
Did you see the dying townsman by cathedral's entrance? Try exploring dlvl 2 some more. Maybe you missed his room?

[Anonymous No.6211029]

I just want to share that my high runes keep dropping as Ohm and it's pissing me off. At least be a Lo.