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6170401 No.6170401 [Reply] [Original]

If the Model 2 was so powerful, why does all its games look worse than N64 games? Is it just Segoid delusion?

>> No.6170420

>>6170401
It didn't. Model 2 run games at higher resolution, had better textures and constant 60 frps.

>> No.6170424

>>6170420
Too bad the games themselves were all boring as fuck.

>> No.6170430

Running 60 fps was enough of a reason to be impressed but looking at the graphics the geometry of ps1 and n64 does seem to be a similar level to model 2. Even pc games didn't have that much more geometry that ps1 games.

>> No.6170445

>>6170430
Also, Model 2 was created in 1993, which makes it pretty advanced for its time. Daytona USA could'n be made in home consoles until the Dreamcast.

>> No.6170561

>>6170401
Sega's immense hatred of transparencies took a dump on this webm's quality.

>> No.6170561,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>6170420
MYTH games run at 60 fps
TRUTH games ran at 29.95 fps

games that run at 60 fps
dead or alive 2 dreamcast
street fighter 2 dash (the one that was hard to control because it was too fast)
killer instinct when using the codes on VS screen default ran at 5 fps the faster was run at 60 fps but barelly a few could control the game that way.

>> No.6170607

show me a n64 game that looks better than arcade Daytona USA

>> No.6170613

>>6170401
how does this in any way look worse then a n64 game? the n64 is garbage

>> No.6170656
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>>6170561
Why were they too cheap to implement transparencies

>> No.6170670
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Here's a better webm

>> No.6170681

>>6170656
You didn't notice it in CRT monitors.

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>>6170681
Yes you did, zoomer.

>> No.6171012

>>6170753
Awful example. Low resolution PS1 game with the camera zoomed pretty much into the screen. Come back with a better contribution, zoomer.

>> No.6171037

>>6170401
Look at The House of the Dead and tell me that would look anywhere close to as good on the N64.

>> No.6171083

>>6170656
the design hardware was more simple.

transparency using stipple to decide whether to write to the frame buffer when rendering a polygon can be implemented by XORing the last two bits of the x and y coordinate together.

transparency using alpha blending requires an extra screen buffer read to get the existing data and computation to actually compute the new value (two multiply and two additions for the basic equation color = color1 * a + color2 * (1 - a), and multiply ain't cheap). Moreover, most alpha blending strategies aren't communative, meaning the order you draw affects the resulting image. this can make rendering algorithms more complicated, from possibly needing multiple passes to render a single frame, to visibility issues like what to do when a polygon is facing away from you

>> No.6171115

>>6170401

No gouraud shading and the textures themselves were actually in black and white IIRC. The surfaces themselves were colored to give the textures color.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WuvznfIvJs

>> No.6171243
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>>6170401
Lame bait. Most N64 games can hardly do 20fps and at half the resolution of Model 2. And it’s three years newer!

>> No.6171375

>>6170670
looks worse imo

>> No.6171447

>>6171243
Why was this allowed in a kids game?

>> No.6171456

>>6170401
Ok, now let's look at some better examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-QDHnl6oCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6REoftI1lbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcco9lrFUHc

And let's not forget that by the time the N64 came out, Model 2 was old hat and the Model 3 board was out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihBCn5hfOJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye1tfWnznJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrJkQ9e9uwQ

>> No.6171491

>>6171447
are you a soccer mom